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Senate Votes To Reinstate ZTE Ban That's Nearly Shut Down the Company (theverge.com)
The U.S. Senate has voted to reinstate a ban on ZTE that prevents the Chinese telecom company from buying U.S. components and using U.S. software. As The Verge notes, "it's still not clear if the reversal will make it into law: it has to clear a conference with the House, and then avoid a veto from President Trump, who advocated for cutting a deal that would lift the ban." From the report: ZTE was hit with the trade ban by the U.S. Commerce Department in April after failing to following through with a punishment for violating sanctions on Iran and North Korea. That ban essentially shut down ZTE, which relies on U.S. parts like Qualcomm processors. Shortly thereafter, Trump said he would cut a deal to revive the company, and a deal was reached -- with additional penalties that the department said were uniquely stringent -- earlier this month.
But senators on both sides of the aisle immediately threatened to stop the deal and reinstate the ban, citing ZTE as a national security risk. And ultimately, a bipartisan group worked to get legislation introduced. The Senate voted 85 to 10 in support of reinstating the ban. It was included as an amendment on the National Defense Authorization Act, a must-pass piece of legislation that has already moved through the House.
But senators on both sides of the aisle immediately threatened to stop the deal and reinstate the ban, citing ZTE as a national security risk. And ultimately, a bipartisan group worked to get legislation introduced. The Senate voted 85 to 10 in support of reinstating the ban. It was included as an amendment on the National Defense Authorization Act, a must-pass piece of legislation that has already moved through the House.
Obey the President. Anything but total fealty is treason.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
The Council is worried about the economy heating up. Can they fire 500,000 from one of the smaller companies, Iike one of the electronics companies?
#DeleteChrome
Yeah, they still haven't quite figured that out yet. They figured buying the President was good enough. I'd imagine that's how it works in China--you just have to buy the top person.
Personally, I think this is just a fig-leaf for the elections. "My opponent is campaigning against me by saying that I'm Donald Trump's water-boy. Well, I'm tough--I stood up to the President on this random issue." Of course, nothing will actually happen with this bill before the election. After the election, assuming the Senator gets re-elected, they'll just drop the whole thing...
Qualcomm sold the equipment to ZTE. They know punishing Qualcomm will give them thought of leaving. Punishing a buyer would be a risk to their shareholders. I bet right now, someone at Qualcomm is drawing up what it would take to leave the United States influence.
Don't confuse China and Russia.
I have no idea how much of the russian allegations are true, other than the fact a few of the smaller fish have indeed been caught doing naughty things.
But worst case and its all true, that doesn't mean china is implied here. Russia and china have very different agendas, and to some degree consider each other traditional foes (Particularly because some of the border issues where never really resolved)
Excuse the Unicode crap in my posts. That's an apostrophe, and slashdot is busted.
unless they do that then this is just political posturing so that reps in vulnerable districts don't take flak for saving Chinese jobs while American ones go overseas.
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No.
I guess 4th grade was too hard for your tiny, tiny brain. Every time you post your mindless dribble it lowers the I.Q. of the entire Internet.
You got modded down, but your comment is spot on.
The left has been just relentlessly awful the past couple of weeks, and the bad part is that it'll only get worse as the midterms get closer.
Trump's son posts a picture enjoying father's day with his kid, and gets a torrent of insults. Trump's daughter shares a picture cuddling her infant son and triggers a tidal wave of hatred.
To believe some celebrities, the US is torturing children at the border right now! It's exactly the same as nazi concentration camps, young children are ripped (note: actual word used) from their mothers and held in cages by the hundreds!
If we could find a way to harness hatred we could run the entire country off of leftist ideals.
I think our dear orange leader should just switch his phone over to a ZTE to prove how great they are. Win win.
what you're referring to is the right wing leadership of the Democratic party (Pelosi, Schumer & Manchin). These are economically right wing "Democrats" who road Bill Clinton's coatails into office and stayed there by selling out the American people to their corporate and big money masters. Same as the Republicans do.
The actual left is the Bernie Sanders and Justice Democrat wing of the party. They've been hammering away at Medicare for All, Living Wages, a New New Deal (google it) and ending the wars. You know, sound economic policy. The Corporate Democrats make pointless attacks on Trump & co because they can't attack Trump on issues or they'd lose their paychecks.
Leftism has nothing to do with hatred. But then neither does the right. It's _always_ about money. Even racism is just an excuse to look the other way from slavery.
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Nah. You need to pay more attention to the news.
Ivanka Trump Wins China Trademarks, Then Her Father Vows to Save ZTE
Trump helps sanctioned Chinese phone maker after China delivers a big loan to a Trump project
Fire one million.
Ah goddamn it, this presidency is a mess. Thanks for the heads up. I'm not American, so I miss a lot of these stories.
Excuse the Unicode crap in my posts. That's an apostrophe, and slashdot is busted.
Both parties are awful, but currently the party in power is Trumps one, so whatever hillary may or may not have done is academic at best.
I do agree the corporate dems need to smarten the fuck up, and perhaps do so via taking long walks off short piers though. Bernie may well have led to a very different outcome in this previous election. Sadly I fear the old boy might just be a little bit TOO old come 2020, and I dont see a viable younger alternative in sight.
Excuse the Unicode crap in my posts. That's an apostrophe, and slashdot is busted.
If I were Trump I would just veto the bill, just to teach congres to stop this shitty sideloading of bills. There are no "must-pass" laws.
Where did the idea come from that preventing someone from "using 'our' software" was a thing that was even possible?
In his book "Dark Sun" Richard Rhodes quotes I. V. Kurchatov as saying "The most important thing that we learned from the Americans was that the atomic bomb was possible."
Knowledge is a highly infectious virus, and no amount of governmental attempts at control will do more than delay things. It's nice that companies want to make a fortune off a piece of software, especially a piece of software that was developed in thousands of different places for tens of thousands of different purposes. The long protracted and in my opinion idiotic SCO lawsuits should have demonstrated once and for all that patenting a general idea is a colossal waste of time.
In the 1980's, half a dozen small companies and more than a few individuals spent a year or two developing Unix clones from general principles. Western Electric considered it "their baby" and went to great lengths to protect it. Their corporate mind simply ignored the fact that the first versions of Unix were written by one person in a closet, and what one person was able to do, other people could - and did - also do.
Trying to stop the Chinese or the Russians from getting "our software" is just going to cause them to find some smartass programmer to do it all over again. Worse, such attempts will mean that a lot of similar and not-very-compatible versions will now circulate around and inevitably the consumer will pay in the end when stuff doesn't work quite the way they thought is should.
Somebody tell the Senate to stop tilting at windmills and worry about real problems instead of trying to prop up corporate moguls with a business plan that boils down to selling old products to deprived consumers for all eternity.
Don't take life too seriously; it isn't permanent.
And then look at the policies of Reagan (right wing) and Obama (left wing) and notice how the left is no where the right was. It's only the "extreme left" still on the left in the USA.
Many economists consider Medicare for all to be sound economics. It is a broad debate with very few people on the "Everyone gets everything" and "Everyone on their own" wings. Few consider the current system of corporations based risk pools to be a good balance. Most settle on some sort of safety net. The debate is around where that net starts.
It is extremely beneficial for individuals to not worry about the financial burden of health issues (especially in the overpriced US). It frees up massive amounts of financial and labor capital that can be invested in various parts of the economy. It also brings up the most vulnerable and poorest members of society to a more equal footing and thus allows greater contribution from them.
The costs are negligible when you consider the spends on our global police force or ongoing domestic & foreign wars or various industrial subsidies or even food donations we give globally.
Major ZTE layoffs would be a huge hit to the Chinese economy. Interesting times...
No, no it wouldn't. If the products are profitable, the business and all the asserts with be bought up. Its only when unprofitable companies go under that any jobs are lost.
With corporate death penalties the only ones losing anything are shareholders of the offending company
Both parties are awful, but currently the party in power is Trumps one, so whatever hillary may or may not have done is academic at best.
Just because one party is "in power", or more accurately, has a small majority in congress, doesn't necessarily mean the other party has no power, and certainly doesn't preclude their influence. Hillary and Bernie are still very relevant.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
A small correction to your post:
FYI asylum seekers showing up at a port of entry and asking for asylum have committed no crime At All.
The cases people keep pushing to the media are for people illegally crossing the border and then claiming asylum when caught.
Previous admins use a "catch and release" system where they were given a court date and let go a very large number never showed up. This, as well as other 'kid friendly' policies led to exponential increases in people crossing with underage children or simply sending underage children across alone. It also led to a boost to human traffickers who could simply claim the child they were with was theirs and be let go.
Trump is simply choosing to enforce the law as written but as is the norm for immigration/border laws, nobody in congress ever expects their laws to be properly followed so they underfunded it leading to a lack of family housing units.
Of course that's just my opinion...... you could be wrong!
Does anybody have a ZTE device they can recommended that works with an open source Android and LTE band 13? 4GB of RAM and a decent screen would be nice. The lack of NSA implants will make up for a few shortfalls.
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Us companies do it all the time and it's considered fair game by the entire industry. So you know it is a lie but it's it's one that's acceptable in this country to the point where our entire economy is structured by it. They might as well treat us the way we treat ourselves
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Now you're just repeating yourself darling. Come on - step it up. Make me laugh like you used to when we were young.
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And more of the repetition. You need to keep better track of the awesome posts you make. You don't want to dilute your message, darling.
But you can do it. I believe in you - we all believe in you. Cho Hoces?
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
So living in Mexico is equivalent to living in East Germany? I'm sure the Mexican government would be delighted to hear that.
Let's cut to the chase here. None of these people are getting into the US legally. When they present themselves at a port of entry they will be told that being poor is not a justifiable cause for political asylum.
The Republican as shit for pretending that they would get in if they arrive at a port of entry.
Like wise the Democrats are shit for pretending they are asylum seekers. Poverty is not a legal cause to claim asylum.
Don't yell at me I didn't write the law. Don't like it? Tell Congress to change the law, don't tell DHS to ignore the law.
Under present law a Mexican citizen who's not a doctor, lawyer or physicist will wait seventy years to legally get into this country. The law is broken, but you don't fix that by breaking it.
Meanwhile both Dems amd Repubs are using the issue for poll numbers. Tell them its time to build the wall and change the immigration laws so that anyone who isn't a terrorist or a criminal can get in. Make it easy to kick people out who are convicted of crimes, but also make it easy for people who have jobs to stay.
This is only hard because both sides want to make political capital out of it, the hell with the people and what's good for the country.
It's not a question of national security; the sanctions against Iran are economic. If you as a company don't honor the sanctions, you're economically supporting someone the US wants economically punished. Therefore the US will extend those economic punishments to your company as well, if they have reason to take notice of your company. Someone selling them a few handsets isn't going to draw ire. Someone selling hundreds of thousands of handsets will.
Simply put, big manufacturers like LTE have to decide who they want to do business with: the USA, or those on the USA's shit list. LTE made their choice, and the Senate is voting to hold them to it.
^LTE^ZTE - an understandable typo
Max.