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GitHub, Medium Remove Public ICE Employee Data Repository (obsceneworks.com)

owenferguson shares a report from Obscene Works: Medium.com and GitHub have today quashed the release of a set of data comprising of all the ICE employees who openly list themselves on LinkedIn.com. All the data released was gathered from publicly listed LinkedIn profiles. The data was assembled by Sam Lavigne of http://lav.io/ and was published as a repository on GitHub, and announced via an article on Medium.com.

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  1. Sick that this is posted as a story here by moehoward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Disgusting political pandering. Slashdot, you are better than this.

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  2. Re:I'm as lefty as they get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    the economy's doing crap with poor wage growth despite full employment

    So, basically, it's just as it has been since 1973. You might suffer from Trump derangement syndrome. Might be worth getting checked out.

  3. Re:I don't get it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    This is backlash for separating children from families. I don't care if you're a policy maker or not, if you do that then you're responsible for taking part. "I was just following orders" is not an excuse.

  4. Re:I'm as lefty as they get by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They may have taken the jobs out of desperation, but they didn't have to announce the fact on LinkedIn.

    They made the information about themselves public.

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  5. Re:I don't get it. by whargoul · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would anyone want this information?

    The only reason for a list like this is to encourage harassment of these individuals just for working somewhere that asshole doesn't agree with.

  6. Re:I don't get it. by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Without enforcers, the policy makers would be powerless. Without foot soldiers, there would be no war.

  7. What a creep by piojo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What a creep.

    I find it helpful to remember that as much as internet companies use data to spy on and exploit their users, we can at times reverse the story, and leverage those very same online platforms as a means to investigate or even undermine entrenched power structures.

    This is some serious confusion, or just a severe "us against the world" mindset. Yes, internet companies sometimes spy on their customers. No, the people in his stalker notebook do not spy on ISP customers. No, the spying ISPs engage in is not the same as encouraging stalking.

    I've seen a certain (few) progressives justify bad behavior as "sticking it to the man", "speaking truth to power", or "punching up". Invariably, this was an excuse to be rude or make accusations about a person who wasn't in a position to defend themselves. This data dump goes beyond rudeness.

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    1. Re:What a creep by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No one forced them to make a Linkedin account. This is just data that anyone can get from Linkedin or an appropriate Google search. Work for an entity that's being heinous? Don't brag about it online.

    2. Re: What a creep by c6gunner · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Absolutely. Can't wait for some Christian fundie to publish a comprehensive list of abortion doctors. With a wink and a "now I'm not telling you what to do with your guns" preface.

  8. Re: ICE employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Boo boo boo! They are following the fucking law! How terrible! Same law your hero Obama followed.
    How much did you worry about brown kids the ? Zero. Disingenuous prat.

    Hate the law? Change it.

    But that is not your issue. You hate Trump.

    Hillary lost. Move on.

  9. They also probably weren't expecting threats by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    for doing a job. I don't think there's many that would argue that we don't want and need some level of border security (there's a few extreme libertarians who do). If we're going to have that then _somebody_ is going to enforce that security.

    We can argue that they should quit their jobs if they're asked to do something immoral, but a lot of them _aren't_ doing anything immoral. I'm going to Godwin this thread right now, not every German helped kill jews. There's boarder patrol agents who help people they find in the desert.

    I understand wanting to do something to help Mexican and South American immigrants. But if that's our goal then there's a _lot_ more to do than immigration. We can start by legalizing drugs. The drug war fuels their violence. We can also stop meddling in their politics. "Banana Republic" has a sinister meaning and our CIA has helped run death squads in South America. Start voting for the kinds of politicians who oppose torture and unnecessary military build up. Drop food instead of Bombs, it's cheaper and more humane.

    There's a lot we can do to stem the tide of illegal immigrants. But that said, we don't necessarily _want_ to do that. We're addicted to their cheap, cheap labor. Always have been.

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    1. Re:They also probably weren't expecting threats by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree that we should end the drug war.

      It has gone worse than Prohibition.

      If we want to stop immigration, we simply need a national employment database and fine the hell out of any employer employing people not approved to work.

      But many of the people losing their children are not coming here simply for work. They are facing being murdered in their home country.

      And Sessions is quoting the bible while ignoring Jesus and all the tales relating to being a good samaritan, kind to strangers, etc. And he's using the same verse used to justify slavery and many other heinous crimes.

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    2. Re:They also probably weren't expecting threats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      So now it's America's obligation to fix *all* the world's problems?

      Here's an idea: you sponsor as many of these kids as you want and feed them and clothe them.

      DO NOT demand taxpayer dollars to fund your bleeding heart concerns.

    3. Re:They also probably weren't expecting threats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was born within walking distance to a concentration camp in which people were raped and tortured to death, those people had received training from the US, and that dictatorship was supported by the US.

      The US has had a hand in a lot of the world's problems, doing a little to make up for the millions that have suffered and died under US imperialism is not too much to ask.

      I pay more taxes than most americans, too. But it's not about money, it's about being decent human beings.

    4. Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      No, just stop with your THINK OF THE CHILDREN moral panic. Seriously. Stop.

      Their parents are not refugees fleeing war and death. They are not the equivalent to 1930s German Jews, who were desperately trying to escape extermination... These people are economic migrants desperate to suckle the teat of the welfare state, and their children are both a pawn and a tool to help exploit that.

    5. Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats by Teun · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You don't seem to appreciate the difference between a common criminal and someone who attempts to give his children a better life by going to the USofA.
      The first tries to make a life at the expense of others, the latter tries to find a paying job and a safe place to live.

      Trump's administration can, awaiting their deportation, keep the families together, absolutely no need to separate them at this difficult time.

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    6. Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats by dwillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They both have broken the Law. Even someone who is innocent but is accused of and arrested for breaking a law will be separated from their children for at least a short time while their case is being processed.

      The difference is that in the normal operation of the criminal justice system, the system isn't overwhelmed on a daily basis with a never ending flood and criminal cases process quicker, The arrestee is booked, sits a few hours (maybe a weekend) and then is arraigned and usually a bail amount is set and they can be bailed out to a future court date.

      If the border crosser has just crossed illegally it should be nearly that quick assuming we have enough judges to handle all the cases. But when the crosser claims asylum that throws a big wrench into the situation. Now there are a series of interviews and investigations of their claims that have to be processed and this takes time. Meanwhile thousands more enter the system every day.

      It's a matter of logistics and scale. Not even our biggest cities have to handle this size of load every single day, seven days a week.

      So what do we now do with the children. the 9th circuit ruled years ago they couldn't go to jail with their parents. Not even special family detention centers that were designed to be as non-jail like as possible and still do the job. So the parents are separated from their children. The parents go to jail for either criminal processing and deportation or asylum claim review. Meanwhile the children are handed over to HHS by the thousands, they have 20 days to find and place the children with relatives or other trusted responsible adults known to the parents or into foster care.

      No it's not pleasant, no it's not ideal. But the courts have prevented keeping the families together. The Obama Catch and release program is a failure with over 80% of those caught and released failing to show up for their court dates. (Catch and release was they were caught, briefly processed and released into the US with a court date). It's a viable system to deal with the logistics of such large scale detention and arrests.

      And ICE is required by law to separate the children from their parents, the courts blocked an attempt to do otherwise.

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    7. Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Also, asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants. They are following the legal process of claiming asylum from danger. Even if their case is not accepted, they are not breaking the law.

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    8. Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Also, asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants. They are following the legal process of claiming asylum from danger. Even if their case is not accepted, they are not breaking the law.

      But the asylum seekers are not the ones being arrested. There is a huge backlog of folks seeking asylum, so many are told they need to wait. But instead of doing that, they go try to cross the border between the ports of entry, illegally. That's when they get arrested.

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    9. Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats by magzteel · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You don't seem to appreciate the difference between a common criminal and someone who attempts to give his children a better life by going to the USofA.

      Either way, it is not the fault of the child. I'm sure the child of a common criminal is just as upset as the child of an illegal alien. In both their situation was an avoidable result of their parent's actions.

      This program has been going on for years. The homeland secretary explained the circumstances under which separation can happen and for how long. The only reason this is a big story now is because Trump.

    10. Re:They also probably weren't expecting threats by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Cry me a fucking river over spending money helping immigrants. We back 3/4 of the world's dictactors, we're bombing 8 countries (I think, I've lost count at this point). We spend more money on a military than many of the world's other major powers combined.

      If it's about the money, we've got a lot more high priorities to cut.

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    11. Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats by swillden · · Score: 1, Insightful

      They both have broken the Law.

      The law is immoral and wrong -- and most of the people in question are seeking asylum which means they haven't actually broken it. Previous administrations (plural -- this is not just about Obama) recognized this and were careful to err on the side of believing asylum seekers until they had their claims evaluated, rather than assuming they were lying and processing them as criminals.

      The Obama Catch and release program is a failure with over 80% of those caught and released failing to show up for their court dates.

      There are many, many other options, including detaining families together, as previous administrations going back to at least Reagan did, or using ankle bracelets or other methods of monitoring. And, no, ICE is not required to separate them, because ICE is not required to treat them as criminals. That decision is totally on Trump and Sessions, no matter how much they claim otherwise.

      Also, your argument ignores the fact that the United States in large part actually created the violent and dangerous Central American conditions that are pushing most of these people to seek refuge here. That doesn't mean we owe them all a place, but it does mean that we should acknowledge our debt at least by giving their claims a fair hearing, and not treating them like criminals, or worse.

      If you really want to stop illegal immigration, it's actually very easy, and doesn't require any of these human rights abuses. In just two steps, we could fix it:

      1. Enact heavy penalties for any American caught employing illegal immigrants, including criminal penalties for those who do it knowingly and repeatedly. This would choke off the economic incentive for illegal immigration. If you want to make it really effective, establish a policy of offering permanent residency to any illegal immigrant who rats out their employer.

      2. Stop the war on drugs. Drug abuse should be handled primarily as a medical issue. Divert all DEA funding (and funding given to state and local police for the drug war) to the establishment of treatment centers and supporting infrastructure. Decriminalization should also be considered, but its not as important as simply stepping back from the utterly ineffective and counter-productive enforcement we've been attempting.

      It would take a few years, and things in Central and South America would briefly get worse, but ending the war on drugs would destroy the violent gangs which are making parts of those regions hellish by removing their lifeblood: our drug money.

      But for some reason there's a big part of this nation that refuses to see that the solution to this set of problems is to fix our own internal brokenness, rather beating down brown people.

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  10. Re: ICE employees? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Baybees. Some as old as 17 with stubble on their face.

  11. Re:I'm as lefty as they get by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Publishing a LinkedIn search may or may not be moral, but it's not "doxxing." Doxxing would be linking it to non public info like phone number, address, ssn, etc for the purposes of encouraging harassment.

  12. Re: ICE employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Boo boo boo! They are following the fucking law! How terrible! Same law your hero Obama followed.
    How much did you worry about brown kids the ? Zero. Disingenuous prat.

    Hate the law? Change it.

    But that is not your issue. You hate Trump.

    Hillary lost. Move on.

    The law's been on the book a long time, the current administration is interpreting it rather differrently than previous administrations.
    They can change their interpretation/policy in a heartbeat.
    Who currently control the llaw-making institutions and are thus capable of changing the law? (But prefer to use kids as a lever for their political purposes)

  13. I've been hre longer than you by OrangeTide · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Slashdot, you are better than this.

    No, we're not. This site is about weird racist memes, goatse and penis bird. There may nothing beneath us.

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  14. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Euthanasia is a choice made by rational adults about their own end.

    Abortion does not result of the loss of a thinking being that can feel distress.

    What is going on now is involuntary confinement of children who can and who have committed no crime.

  15. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are not right. Most doxxers defend their actions by saying the information they compiled was publicly accessible. While the data may be publicly available, it is not compiled into an easily searchable database for the purposes of hurting people.

    If you like keeping lists of "undesirablea" so much, just remember... Hitler kept lists too. Yup... Godwin's Law!

  16. Re: Do not take your children overseas right now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The parents could always, you know, not violate US immigration law. I know, crazy idea!

  17. Re:Github? Really? by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, to me its deletion from GitHub is pretty obvious--it's not a program or data for a program, of course it ought to go--and I'm a bit disgusted by the double-standards of a lot of the people here. Would the people here be as offended if the list deleted was, say, "LGBT employees of Google"? How about "Non-White Health Care Workers in Random City"? These kinds of lists are a problem because they invite harassment of the people on the list--and it's disturbing to see people thinking it's somehow okay to do this when it's the 'right' people getting harassed, because that basically means that you will have to be careful about expressing any ideas which might risk you at some point (now or in the future) finding yourself on one of those lists...and that won't protect you against being included by accident or because somebody wanting revenge or a petty power play.

  18. Re:Manufactured outrage by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No.. you are either mistaken or lying.

    1) Trump is only enforcing the law : Nope, it's a new policy. And it's a decision by Miller, Sessions, and Trump to do so. Presidents Bush and Obama saw no need to enforce the law this way.

    2) Many children arrive unaccompanied
    We are talking about babies and toddlers being taken from their parents-- we have audio of them crying for their parents.

    3) Children can only be separated for 20 days
    No. per former ICE head on the news tonight at 9pm, there is no procedure in place to return the children. The Parents will be "fast tracked" back to their home countries and the toddlers and babies will be returned months to *years* later. And there is no documentation being taken to tie the parents to the children. And there are already documented cases where the child has been missing longer than 20 days.

    4) Their conditions are actually pretty good, better than most poor American children get, and better than where they came from.
    Living in tents in near 100 degree temperatures is not "pretty" good. That's the conditions which male toddlers and children are being kept under. Babies and females we barely know about-- reporters are not being allowed in the facllities. The government (which lies constantly) is the only source saying the conditions are good.

    5) We separate citizen children from their parents, when we put parents in jail
    Not for minor crimes.

    6) Obama did it
    Obama's not president and at the least did not do it on this scale (if it did it at all- you are going to provide a cite for that because all I find when I google that is right wing sites.)

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  19. Re:I'm as lefty as they get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Because people on the left are known to be violent? Finally the truth is out there.

  20. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by rworne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sure. This is why my kid had on their history final that Reagan ran up the national debt and turned the US from the #1 creditor to a debtor nation.

    The difference from Obama was the political parties running congress and the executive were swapped. So - the blame got swapped too.

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  21. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by fafalone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Unless you live in one of the few places that eliminated cash bail for misdemeanors, then you're wrong. You could challenge being held on bail because of childcare obligations, but scheduling that hearing takes a while, first appearance judges don't want to hear it. There's no law that sets misdemeanor bail to zero for parents, nor for people who can't post.

  22. Re:I'm as lefty as they get by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Doxing often involves just collecting publicly available information. Most people don't realize how various little bits here and there can be collated and cross-referenced to build up a profile of them, kinda like what Facebook does.

    Just because something is public doesn't mean it can't be used for doxing. Merely collecting it for the purposes of harassment or shaming is enough.

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  23. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why throw the parents in one cage and the children in a different cage? Why not keep them together?

    Even if you ignore the humanitarian grounds, it surely costs more to provide free childcare that the parents would otherwise have given.

    Let's drop the pretence. This is being done to put pressure on the Democrats and to discourage migrants. It's not a legal requirement or procedural issue, it's a deliberate decision to separate children from their parents for political reasons.

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  24. Re:And if it were an ANTIFA supporter database ? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It would be just as bad. As is the list of "SJWs".

    Lists of people you dislike are almost always a bad idea.

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  25. Re: I don't get it. by GrimSavant · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The big one Sessions referenced was Romans 13:1-7, which is a New Testament Pauline epistle. It argues for submitting to governing authorities.

    Generally, if government officials are using that passage to defend themselves or justify their actions they tend to be in a bad way. It was used as one of the scriptural bases for the Divine Right of Kings, opposition to the American Revolution, and by pro-slavery forces to justify adherence to the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850. More recently it has been used as a support by the apartheid government of South Africa.

    When Romans 13:1-7 is cited while ignoring the next couple of passages (Romans 13:8-10) it's pretty obvious that it is being used for dubious ends, as that goes:

    8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

    I'm not a biblical scholar, nor am I a well-versed adherent to the Pauline epistles, but I do have a hard time seeing any love in this.

  26. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by Gr8Apes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Compared to our return on the 8 Trillion in increased debt from the Obama years with no real benefit to be shown for it - yeah, totally a bargain.

    Let's see - roughly 6T of that was directly related to saving our economy from the crash of 2008, and whose fault was that again? Oh yeah, the Republican led rollback of Democratic originated regulations on the banking industry allowed that to develop. Hmm. The remainder of the deficits were the result of Republican majority Congress, so what, exactly, did Obama do to the debt? What did we get? Obamacare. A half-assed form of universal coverage, but at least they tried, which the Republicans apparently find so abhorrent they're doing everything in their power to sabotage it so it "fails". Why? Because they're incapable of replacing it, as their concept of "healthcare", short version: pay or suffer and die (restated as it's god's will)

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  27. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by Gr8Apes · · Score: 3, Insightful
    You are incorrect on that as well:

    the five largest investment banks at the core of the crisis (including Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers) were not subject to the CRA or other depository banking regulations, and they did not originate mortgages

    (From wikipedia, because it was easiest)

    Thus, the CRA wasn't in play for these investment banks, nor were they regulated. Yet they were the root cause of the recession.

    You can read more about it - yes, there was a housing bubble, it wasn't caused by government policy, and the GSEs (Fannie and Freddie) weren't drivers with their directives. When you can offload your risk for cash to loan more, there's no incentive to strengthen your requirements, because your base risk is still low. Someone else took the risk off your hands that you had. If you recall, several of those investment banks wound up being guilty of repackaging low-quality mortgage loans as high quality investments. All of that lead to an environment where lower quality loans being less costly and risky to originators and thus more and more were written and passed into the system. That increase in demand caused, you guessed it, increased prices. Thus the bubble grew and grew and finally popped at the slightest poke.

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