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'Snapdragon 1000' Chip May Be Designed For PCs From the Ground Up (engadget.com)
Qualcomm's Snapdragon 850 processor may be intended for PCs, but it's still a half step -- it's really a higher-clocked version of the same processor you'd find in your phone. The company may be more adventurous the next time, though. From a report: WinFuture says it has obtained details surrounding SDM1000 (possibly Snapdragon 1000), a previously hinted-at CPU that would be designed from the start for PCs. It would have a relatively huge design compared to most ARM designs (20mm x 15mm) and would consume a laptop-like 12W of power across the entire system-on-a-chip. It would compete directly with Intel's low-power Core processors where the existing 835 isn't really in the ballpark. A reference design found in import databases might give a clue as to what you could expect: it'd have up to 16GB of RAM and two 128GB storage modules.
As I understand the last one didn't. If it's got full compatibility then I could see Intel and AMD (especially Intel) really starting to worry.
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Ha ha ha. Fp.
64 bit ARM is quite respectable. Looking forward to seeing these machines
We're doing some work with nvidia arm-based modules. The development system is Ubuntu with all the bells and whistles, plenty fast for a desktop. And the thing's the size of a pcmcia card (remember those?).
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This wouldn't be engineered for PCs, this would be engineered for budget laptops AKA tablets with keyboards. What's the difference? PCs have a common bus (or at least can outsource the job), the modern one being PCIe. Honestly, this is still just another beefed up smartphone chip.
Tell me when they make a chip with a PCIe root complex and then i'll tell you they made a chip made for PCs.
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So you'd plug what in? A modem card?
Not a flash card because they're all flash now anyway. Graphics are built right into the SOC with a much faster internal bus, so not a graphics card. Peripheral are all USB these days.
What exactly would you plug into the slot, and why do laptops not have that slot and yet still sell?
I am still not impressed with any of this ARM talk on Windows systems. Especially on notebooks costing around a grand. Maybe a option for a low end device providing good battery life and running simple apps that are native. But even then you can buy a AMD or Intel CPU in a basic notebook with decent battery life that runs everything just as well. Maybe a year or so from now Qualcomm might have a better offering that would change my mind. Right now I think its a niche looking for a buyer
Poor Qualcomm, hasn't anyone told them the PC is dead?
That would be NVIDIA's latest ARM SoC at 350 mm2.
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Qualcomm and Microsoft were proclaiming they'd be competitive prior to the recent Windows on Arm which turned out to be a dumpster fire. Despite claims by the gadget press that you have a "super computer" in your pocket no one has yet to show they are remotely close to anything available today from Intel or AMD.
It seems like this would be great for Samsung's Dex Pad. I think this is the direction that the computer market will head. Most users only need the capabilities that most phones give them.
With chips like this, less people will buy laptops, or computers as separate devices. Just slide the phone into the dock and pick up where you left off.
Who cares about Microsoft?
And isn't that a common bus? Not as fast as PCIe so you're not gonna be running a GTA 1080 off it but it's still a bus isn't it?
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Strzok that.
PC used to mean Personal Computer. That could be any architecture. Somewhere along the line (possibly before those Mac vs PC commercials) PC came to be assumed Windows on Intel (most Luddites don't even know about AMD, much less VIA and other x86 competitors) A PC could be SuperH architecture running FreeBSD. IIRC, there was a company that tried to trademark "PC LAPTOPS", but PC had become so associated with Windows and Intel that the examiners sited the use of PC as an adjective.
Cool, we can have a nice 32/64 bit cpu, with no 16/8 bit cruft, or segmented nonsense, with real protection, designed by a company that knows CPUs.
Now excuse me, I have to update my BIOS to patch spectre, meltdown, and further degrade the performance of an already slow cpu. I also need to upgrade the power supply, as it wants *more* power now.
p.c. = polizical cuntrectness.
PC = personal computer.
b = bit.
B = byte = n bit.
kB = 2^10 byte = 1024 byte.
hacker = somebody who tinkers with computers (as in: hacks away at the keyboard).
cracker = somebody who breaks into (computer) security systems.
And everybody who spreads different definitions, is a clueless cargo cult kid raised by the clueless media industry's clueless discussion of these things.
Cause if it can run Android, it can run Linux, by definition.
If they use "proprietary" driver modules, you can load them in your self-configurd kernel too, if the version and a few other things like the compile options are the same.
And even if the version is not the same, an adapter for the symbol table would make it possible.
If the kernel has custom patches, AFAIK, GPL2 means their code must be released
And if there is a device tree and the drivers are in the kernel, it obviously works.
Not unless they fix ...
Their notoriously bad memory bandwidth in the redesign.
This thing is 300mm^2?
That seems huge considering a Ryzen 1800X is 213mm^2...
I mean, I know it has all the system on a chip stuff in there, too, but still, that's giant.