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Red Meat Allergies Caused By Tick Bites Are On The Rise (npr.org)

Tick bites can cause all sorts of nasty afflictions. And if you're bitten by a Lone Star tick, here's one more to add to the list: a red meat allergy. NPR reports: About 10 years ago, Dr. Scott Commins, an allergist and associate professor of medicine at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, was among the first physicians to identify the allergy in patients with tick bites. Back then, there were just a few dozen known cases. That has increased dramatically. "We're confident the number is over 5,000 [cases], and that's in the U.S. alone," Commins says. There are also cases in Sweden, Germany and Australia -- likely linked to other species of ticks. In the U.S., the Lone Star tick has expanded its range beyond the Southeast, and there are documented cases of alpha gal meat allergies farther north -- including New York, Maine and Minnesota. "The range of the tick is expanding," says Commins. So is awareness about the red meat allergy it can cause. "We have a blood test, and the word is getting out."

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  1. Let the healing begin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Finally, an issue to bridge the divide. Left, Right, liberal, conservative, let us all band together and exterminate this blight.

    Not you though, vegans. Nobody likes you.

    1. Re:Let the healing begin by Immerman · · Score: 5, Funny

      >Not you though, vegans. Nobody likes you.

      You've cracked it, right there. There is no "lone star tick induced meat allergy" - it's just a convenient cover story to allow people to survive being vegetarian in Texas. :-D

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    2. Re: Let the healing begin by bestweasel · · Score: 1

      Not you though, vegans. Nobody likes you.

      Here we see that what really irritates meat eaters, far more than ticks, are vegans. I guess it's the tiny prickings of conscience.

    3. Re: Let the healing begin by PseudoAnon · · Score: 3, Informative

      You had a great comment until you demonstrated the holier-than-thou attitude that leads people to dislike vegans as a group.

      People are more receptive to what others have to say when the people trying to spread behavioral change don't preach about being better than everyone else.

    4. Re: Let the healing begin by bestweasel · · Score: 1

      I should have said "a few meat eaters", specifically those who denigrate vegans. It seems like many of them protest too much and appear to be trying to convince themselves as much as their audience, similar to some of those holy men who loudly extol family values. I don't speak for vegans, I'm not a vegan.

    5. Re: Let the healing begin by bahwi · · Score: 1

      You can cut down on meat without mentioning it to anybody, you know. This would cut down on people commenting on stuff. I know, facebook generation, can't do anything without letting the world know.

    6. Re: Let the healing begin by lactose99 · · Score: 1

      Nothing really wrong with vegans actually, they are quite tasty.

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    7. Re:Let the healing begin by Immerman · · Score: 1

      In nutritional science pork, like wild board, is a red meat - something about being richer in myoglobin than white meat in poultry or fish. Maybe related? But why would primates be different? I've heard we're very biochemically similar to pigs.

      At any rate there's obviously only one solution - bushmeat being as difficult to get as it is, your friend will ultimately have no choice but to turn to cannibalism. My condolences to your family.

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  2. This time, they've gone too far! by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tick bites can cause all sorts of nasty afflictions. And if you're bitten by a Lone Star tick, here's one more to add to the list: a red meat allergy.

    Burn down nature! It's a luxury we can no longer afford!

  3. The Giving Plague by OzPeter · · Score: 1

    The first thing I thought of was The Giving Plague by David Brin

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    1. Re:The Giving Plague by Iamthecheese · · Score: 1

      That was a damned good read.

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    2. Re:The Giving Plague by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      The first thing I thought of was The Giving Plague by David Brin

      In real life there are multiple factors that can disqualify you from donating blood. Having received a blood transfusion is one of them.

    3. Re:The Giving Plague by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 1

      The first thing I thought of was The Giving Plague by David Brin

      In real life there are multiple factors that can disqualify you from donating blood. Having received a blood transfusion is one of them.

      Depends. In the U.S., it's a year deferral, I believe. (Same deferral I got due to spending a week in Bangalore.)

      However, in the U.S., having received a transfusion in Britain is a lifetime ban on donating blood, due to a certain prion disease that hit Britain pretty hard a few decades ago. Variant CJD may take decades to show up, but can be transmitted by blood in all that time.

      Brin's story (his usual political hobby-horses beaten to splinters aside) is very good, but he made a mistake on the religion that bans blood transfusions. It's Jehovah's Witnesses, not Christian Science. Christian Science (it's neither) ... I don't think bans, exactly, but discourages ... almost all kinds of medicine. Get yourself to a Reading Room and enlighten yourself that your malady is just an illusion. JWs don't have a problem with medicine in general, but they read Leviticus to require a complete prohibition on blood transfusions. There have been court cases over this issue.

      Brin's story does have one of the best depictions of a certain insight that I've ever seen -- seeing the POV character from the inside, he is clearly a perfectly vile, self-centered SOB. But what does the rest of the world see? They can't see inside him, see his motivations. They only see what he does, which is entirely admirable, the actions of someone who, apparently, richly deserved that Nobel Peace Prize.

    4. Re: The Giving Plague by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      You can so long as you wait 12 months after receiving either a blood transfusion or an organ. Others are accepted as well after a 12 month suspension, such as: renting the four dirtiest hookers you can find and having a fivesome, receiving buttsex, and receiving gonorrea. Clamydia, herpes, and genital warts are not crimes however, so you don't have to wait 12 months to donate, as you've already been punished.

      Some crimes are beyond redemption, however, including exchanging bodily fluids with an Englishman or a Frenchman even one time since 1980. For this high crime of desecrating your body, you may never donate, and especially in the case of a Frenchman, may God have mercy on your soul.

    5. Re:The Giving Plague by technosaurus · · Score: 1

      Only if the one who discovered it was vegan and discovered it year's ago. It is a pretty advantageous symbiotic relationship for the tick though if all the infected omnivorous predators stop killing off potential hosts.

    6. Re:The Giving Plague by Megol · · Score: 1

      Is someone choosing to dedicate their life to ease the suffering of others really a vile individual? Compare that to the people in the story that act altruistically because they are forced to by a disease, are they really better humans?

    7. Re:The Giving Plague by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 1

      He was planning to murder his friend, not "thinking about it", but making actual preparations, when his friend caught a lethal plague and died first.

    8. Re:The Giving Plague by quenda · · Score: 1

      in the U.S., having received a transfusion in Britain is a lifetime ban on donating blood, due to a certain prion disease that hit Britain pretty hard a few decades ago.

      In Australia, just having lived in the UK back then will bet you a lifetime ban on donating blood.
      It has been twenty years and I'm fine..... MMMMooooooooooo!

  4. Notta problem by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's okay, I only eat vegetarian ticks.

    1. Re:Notta problem by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      It's okay, I only eat vegetarian ticks.

      I honestly thought meat allergy was a slur for vegetarians. At least that is how I have used it ;)

  5. PETA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can we tell if this tick has been genetically modified by PETA?

    1. Re:PETA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If the tick has been stolen out of someone's yard despite being microchipped, then kept in a cage for a couple of days before being killed by blunt force trauma from half a brick, then, yes. PETA have been at work.

    2. Re:PETA by pots · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's not the tick that causes the allergy, the tick just transmits a protein which is common to most mammals, but which apes lack. So our immune systems develop antibodies, and subsequently react to the presence of this protein.

      In other words: yes, we can tell if this tick has been genetically modified by PETA. It hasn't.

      I realize that was probably a joke, but people say some crazy shit about PETA sometimes...

    3. Re:PETA by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      I realize that was probably a joke, but people say some crazy shit about PETA sometimes...

      People in PETA say some crazy shit sometimes.

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    4. Re:PETA by quenda · · Score: 1

      I realize that was probably a joke, but people say some crazy shit about PETA sometimes...

      Sadly, a lot of the crazy shit is true.

  6. The Bacon! by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

    Won't somebody PLEASE think about The Bacon! Pork is actually red meat, does this mean no more Bacon if bit?

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    1. Re:The Bacon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You just need to cook it longer until it's black. There aren't any black meat allergies. But you are what you eat, so your chances of being arrested might go up.

    2. Re:The Bacon! by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      The only people claiming burnt meat is a carcinogen want to keep Burnt Ends all to themselves. Forget that!

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    3. Re:The Bacon! by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      My friend has this problem, it's all mammals except for maybe apes, monkeys, chimps.

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  7. Re:Eating Meat by ChrisMaple · · Score: 4, Informative

    Have you ever seen a wild animal killed and eaten by a wild predator? Torn apart while not necessarily yet dead?

    And then there are the wild animals that die of starvation, freezing, disease, etc..

    In comparison, most domestic food animals live good lives and die quick deaths.

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  8. Semi-related anecdotes by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My wife spent a few years working in Southeast Asia. While there she started having symptoms like what you'd expect with lactose intolerance, except that she had always been able to drink milk without issue. She tried cutting milk out, but the symptoms continued. After talking with a local doctor, she found out that there was something different about the way they raised cows there, that the symptoms she was experiencing were not uncommon among Westerners who moved to the region, and that the reason the symptoms were persisting was because they could be caused by any cow-based product, not just milk.

    She had to cut out all beef, milk, and other cow-based products while she was there for a few years. By the time she got back to the West, she hadn't had cow's milk in over two years, so her body had lost the ability to process lactose entirely, leaving her well and truly lactose intolerant at that point. As for the issues with beef? So far as we know they disappeared as soon as she got back, though she was understandably gun shy about eating it for a few years. It wasn't until nearly a year into our marriage (three years after she had gotten back to the States) that I could convince her to even try beef again.

    Anyway, it's interesting to see how different establishments respond when she mentions she's lactose intolerant. She'll usually try to avoid the topic by simply asking if a dish contains milk or cream, rather than trying to explain things. If they ask why and she has to say the words "lactose intolerance", half of them react as if she had said she could die at any moment, at which point she needs to clarify that, no, she doesn't have an allergy and they don't need to scrub the kitchen down. The other half reacts dismissively, at which point she rattles off this line about loving milk and cream even though they don't love her, which usually convinces the wait staff that she isn't one of those people falsely claiming an intolerance for ideological/nutritional reasons.

    But, by far, my favorite reaction from a wait person was this time that we were ordering dessert at a decent restaurant and my wife asked if there were any desserts she'd be able to have, having mentioned earlier in the meal that she was lactose intolerant. After rattling off the list of desserts and acknowledging that each had cream, the waitress finished the list by saying, "I'll need to check on the creme brûlée, since I don't think it has cream in it." We didn't have the heart to tell her that it literally had "cream" in the name, and the waitress even asked "are you sure?" when we told her it definitely had cream in it.

    1. Re:Semi-related anecdotes by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      We’re neither apologizing for you, nor do we have an issue with you making a choice to not consume dairy. That’s perfectly fine. And I’m fine with people being lactose intolerant too, regardless of the reason. What I have an issue with are people who claim to have a condition when they don’t, since it makes it harder for people with actual conditions to be taken seriously. If having issues with liars who make my wife’s life more difficult than it needs to be makes me an asshole, I’ll proudly wear that label.

    2. Re:Semi-related anecdotes by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      Interesting-- I had similar experiences after a couple years in Thailand. Didn't eat much beef while there, but the milk and yogurt were not my friends.

    3. Re:Semi-related anecdotes by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      A) It’s just my wife. Not me. I rather enjoy dairy.

      B) She’s tried Lactaid pills on more than one occasion. At least so far, they haven’t worked for her for some reason. If you have any additional advice we might be able to try, I’m all ears. She’d love to be able to eat real pizza and ice cream again.

      C) What ridiculous requests? I said that she asks if a dish contains milk or cream. That’s all I mentioned. What she usually does with that info is simply choose a different dish if necessary. Nothing more. If you think that’s ridiculous or “terrorizing” anyone...well, you’re wrong, plain and simple. The only request she might make is to ask if it’s easy to put the cheese/cream sauce/dressing on the side instead of on top, but she knows that it isn’t always easy (e.g. pre-made salads), so she’ll simply choose a different dish if it isn’t. She’s not one of those people who asks the wait staff to hand-pick shreds of cheese from pre-made salads or demands that the chef invent a dairy-free version of a dish that requires dairy.

    4. Re:Semi-related anecdotes by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      B) She's tried Lactaid pills on more than one occasion. At least so far, they haven't worked for her for some reason. If you have any additional advice we might be able to try, I'm all ears. She'd love to be able to eat real pizza and ice cream again.

      Have you checked for the rarer caesin allergy rather than lactose? Caesin obviously isn't affected by lactase enzymes (so the pills or lactoe removed milk won't help) but sufficiently cooked milk doesn't hae it (but does retain lactose). Also trying goat or sheep milk baed products may be revealing.

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    5. Re:Semi-related anecdotes by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      Good question. We haven’t checked explicitly for it, but from what I understand I don’t think that’s the problem. Lactaid milk works for her even though the pills didn’t, and she’ll still react to baked goods that contain enough (normal) milk, though she’s fine with any quantity of sheep and goat milk products.

    6. Re:Semi-related anecdotes by cleavet · · Score: 1

      My wife discovered that generic lactase enzyme pills were much less effective then Lactaid brand ones. If you're wife is using generics the going with brand-name pills might help with occasional dairy consumption. What ended her lactose intolerance for good, though, was having our third child. No idea why, but something about that birth restarted the enzyme production. Not sure one can prescribe that, however.

    7. Re:Semi-related anecdotes by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      Oh, the waitress was fine. I just thought it was funny that a waitress was clueless enough to not know there was cream in a dish with cream in the name, that's all. Plus, had they offered to make something specifically for my wife, she'd have turned them down anyway. She'd feel guilty eating something like that if she caused them an undue burden. In that particular situation, she resolved it by simply ordering a nice glass of port instead, which she enjoyed while I had dessert.

    8. Re:Semi-related anecdotes by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Anyway, it's interesting to see how different establishments respond when she mentions she's lactose intolerant. She'll usually try to avoid the topic by simply asking if a dish contains milk or cream, rather than trying to explain things. If they ask why and she has to say the words "lactose intolerance", half of them react as if she had said she could die at any moment, at which point she needs to clarify that, no, she doesn't have an allergy and they don't need to scrub the kitchen down. The other half reacts dismissively, at which point she rattles off this line about loving milk and cream even though they don't love her, which usually convinces the wait staff that she isn't one of those people falsely claiming an intolerance for ideological/nutritional reasons.

      I think the problem is that people think "lactose intolerant" is akin to "lactose allergy", along the lines of "peanut allergy" or "soy allergy" or "shellfish allergy".,

      Because after all, a big reason people ask is they are allergic and there's a chance of a reaction.

      Whereas lactose intolerance isn't an allergy, it's a failure to produce lactase (enzyme to process lactose sugars) and no, it will not lead to an allergic reaction. However, the unprocessed lactose sugar does a number with the gut flora (typically the same ones that process bean fibers - they're the last in line of the bacteria that help process what you eat into nutrients)

      Problem is, most people don't realize that and think any food avoidance is caused by an allergy. Same goes for those with Celiac disease and thus have to avoid gluten.

    9. Re:Semi-related anecdotes by quintus_horatius · · Score: 1

      By the time she got back to the West, she hadn't had cow's milk in over two years, so her body had lost the ability to process lactose entirely, leaving her well and truly lactose intolerant at that point.

      This doesn't sound right to me. You can't prevent lactose intolerance by drinking more milk -- if that worked then I wouldn't be lactose intolerant today. By the same token, you can't induce lactose intolerance by removing lactose.

      Your body will produce lactase according to your genes. Humans are weird that so many of us continue to produce it through adulthood, but even so less than half of us do. Most mammals lose it shortly after weaning. It's normal for humans to lose it right around the beginning of adulthood, which is right about the time your girlfriend stopped being able to drink milk too.

    10. Re:Semi-related anecdotes by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      You can't prevent lactose intolerance by drinking more milk -- if that worked then I wouldn't be lactose intolerant today. By the same token, you can't induce lactose intolerance by removing lactose.

      So, yes and no. You're right that you can't prevent it by drinking milk, but drinking milk does indeed prevent one cause of it. Swap "lactose intolerance" for "malnutrition" or some other condition that can be caused by a deficiency. If I suggested that failing to eat regularly could result in malnutrition and you rebutted that you knew someone suffering from malnutrition despite them eating regularly, it'd be fallacious to conclude that I was wrong about a lack of eating causing malnutrition based on what you mentioned. Rather, we'd suggest that multiple causes may be possible (e.g. not eating the right things, not eating enough of them, other factors).

      Which gets to the other cause you brought up:

      It's normal for humans to lose it right around the beginning of adulthood, which is right about the time your girlfriend stopped being able to drink milk too.

      I agree that age is a primary cause for lactose intolerance, but:
      A) She's my wife, not my girlfriend.
      B) You're a few decades off the mark. I have no idea where you got the incorrect notion that she was entering adulthood when it occurred.

    11. Re:Semi-related anecdotes by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      I hear you. While I'm fortunate enough not to have any dietary restrictions, I know what it feels like to have them assume things after someone else orders first. We found that places would often omit the dairy ingredient from both of our dishes, even though I said nothing on the topic when placing my order. They simply assumed that I didn't want cheese on my tacos or dressing on my salad because my wife asked them to leave it off hers. These days, she oftentimes makes a point of jestfully feigning envy at my ability to eat cheese/cream/etc. after I order something containing dairy, that way it's clearer to the staff that I'm fine having the food as it's typically prepared.

      And yeah, on more than one occasion my wife has asked whether a particular dish contains dairy, been told that it does, explicitly ordered a different dish to avoid dairy, and then has the dish she ordered come out covered in a dairy ingredient that wasn't mentioned anywhere on the menu, exactly like what you're talking about. Almost without fail the wait staff have this moment of the lights coming on upstairs as they realize what happened, since it's almost always because they simply went through the motions without thinking, rather than because they were clueless.

    12. Re:Semi-related anecdotes by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      Exactly. A blogger I follow has a kid with a dairy allergy. When he was four, they took him to the doctor's office to do a controlled test to gauge the severity of the allergy. The doctor started with a single teaspoon of milk. After swallowing it, the kid apparently had time to say, "Mommy, I feel weird", before immediately passing out and going into anaphylactic shock. To say the least, he has a severe allergy.

      As I said in my original post, I don't appreciate people who make my wife's life difficult by falsely claiming allergies, and having heard stories like that blogger's, the last thing I or my wife want to do is make the lives of anyone with allergies any harder. While we appreciate the concern that those wait staff are demonstrating when they react so strongly, if there is any confusion whatsoever we do our best to clarify that she has an intolerance, NOT an allergy, and to explain what that means, that way we don't leave anyone with the false impression that people with allergies can actually have a little butter without issue.

      For my wife, simply leaving the dairy out is more than enough. Even taking it off after the fact is just fine in most cases. All we need from them is an assurance that there isn't a hidden source of it somewhere, or else that they'll remember to leave it off. We have no need for them to jump through hoops or go to extreme measures, and we want to make sure they know that so that if a person with an actual allergy shows up, they'll understand the distinction.

  9. I can't say I'm surprised by hyades1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Lone Star Tick joins a long list of blood-sucking parasites from Texas. Most of the others, however, have been politicians.

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    1. Re:I can't say I'm surprised by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      The Lone Star Tick joins a long list of blood-sucking parasites from Texas. Most of the others, however, have been politicians.

      However: More of them, at least the politician type, come from California.

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      Let's be fair, Ixodes Polites is endemic to the entire planet.

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    3. Re:I can't say I'm surprised by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      No, he thinks your response is lame because it actually is lame.

      Here's what you did: steal my comment, substitute your own bete noir, then flatter yourself that you're clever.

      You aren't.

      I bet you think, "I know you are but what am I?" is the heart and soul of witty repartee.

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  10. Ticks will save the planet by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    We all know we eat too much meat for the practice to be sustainable, but even once one admit it, it is not easy to give it up.

    But here come ticks to the rescue. Once allergic to meat it is much easier to become vegan. Ticks will save the planet!

    1. Re:Ticks will save the planet by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 1

      We all know we eat too much meat for the practice to be sustainable, but even once one admit it, it is not easy to give it up.

      This is true or untrue depending on where you live. Or are you aggregating all people across the globe into a single entity? Seems unfair to deprive a sparsely populated area because other areas maxed out their population. That would put an interesting spin on the immigration debate though.

    2. Re:Ticks will save the planet by sheramil · · Score: 1

      Obviously, the thing to do is to start eating ticks. Ignore the tiny cries of "SPOON!"

  11. Re:Eating Meat by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1, Troll

    most domestic food animals live good lives

    Have you ever been in a battery cage warehouse? The noise is deafening. The stench will likely make you vomit.

  12. Re:Eating Meat by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    [Yorkshire accent] Well we had it tough ...

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  13. Hanlon's Age [Re:Semi-related anecdotes] by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    "Don't attribute to external forces what can be explained by getting old."

    Often stuff just plain breaks down in the body as one gradually grows older. It's like an old car: every other month something new goes wrong, and some things gradually get worse. Therefore, oddities may not necessarily have an external cause. Your medicine cabinet typically grows ever larger as you age.

    Our bodies haven't evolved to live past 45 or so. Half of Johann Sebastian Bach's children died quite early, and that was common back then even for the middle class. (Sure, some lived to 70+, but those are the exceptions.)

    1. Re:Hanlon's Age [Re:Semi-related anecdotes] by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      While I agree that age can explain many issues, including some cases of food intolerance, I fail to see the relevance here. As I said, the one issue (a beef intolerance) went away as soon as she left the region, which would serve as a contraindication to age being the cause, and the other (a lactose intolerance) has a well-established cause that applied to her: she didn’t ingest lactose for several years.

      Really, I’d suggest that your quote is a false truism. Rephrased, it’s saying nothing more than that if age might be the cause, we should assume that age is the cause, which is obviously false.

      That fact that something can be explained by age doesn’t mean that it should be, particularly when there are applicable external factors that are known to cause that issue. If someone’s memory is going, age can certainly explain that problem, but if they’ve had a recent traumatic head wound that was immediately followed by the memory loss, maybe we might consider that external factors are at play? Likewise, when it’s well-established that a continual ingestion of lactose is necessary to maintain a lactose tolerance, and the person is known to have not ingested lactose for several years, perhaps we should assume that their lack of ingestion is most likely to have been responsible for the resulting intolerance, rather than jumping to the assumption that age is the cause merely because it might be?

  14. Re:Gluten 2.0 by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1

    i sure as fuck hope so. if demand for red meat drops, my bbq addiction will become just that much cheaper.

  15. Mysterious acquired allergies by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    I have always liked all seafood (yes, even uni), but about ten years ago, with no warning, I developed an allergy to mussels. Could this have come from some random insect bite?

    1. Re:Mysterious acquired allergies by sjames · · Score: 1

      Uni is an odd one. I've tried it and I still don't know if I like it or not.

  16. Hello? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Your name is liquid_schwartz and you made no joke or reference to the "Lone Star" tick name.

    Granted it's spelled "Lone Starr" in the movie, but still.

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  17. Dogs... by dargaud · · Score: 2

    The spread of ticks and associated diases has multiple factors: lack of predators (dur to hunting), spread of some (imported) bushes where they shelter for the winter, warmer and wetter winters (they die if it's too dry or cold), etc... But one thing you can do about it is stop bringing your fucking dogs everywhere you go. That's how the ticks cross deserts or oceans.

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  18. Re:Eating Meat by Megol · · Score: 2

    I don't know why batteries would need cages, mine are mostly immobile with a few exceptions, but no - I haven't.

    I have however been to places with free range cows where the noise also can be deafening periodically and the stench is a bit rich (I don't vomit easily), but then the animals have chosen to congregate to a certain sport so not the noise nor the aroma can be too bad for the animals involved.
    I've also visited many places where birds choose to live in groups, ducks recently and sea birds of different kinds in other. Let me just describe the stench as strong if not immediately revolting and the noise level at times deafening. But the animals once again choose to spend time at those places, they could easily fly away to a nice secluded spot if that was desired.

  19. Vegan Conspiracy! by sycodon · · Score: 2

    Now we know what all those Vegans were doing slinking around in the woods!

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  20. Re:Eating Meat by quenda · · Score: 1

    And then there are the wild animals that die of starvation, freezing, disease, etc..

    That was normal for humans too until recently. Until well into civilisation, made possible by farming, and using domesticated animals.