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Firefox 61 Arrives With Better Search, Tab Warming, and Accessibility Tools Inspector (venturebeat.com)
On Tuesday, Mozilla released Firefox 61, the newest version of its web browser for Windows, Mac, Linux, and Android platforms. The release builds on Firefox Quantum, which the company calls "by far the biggest update since Firefox 1.0 in 2004." VentureBeat: Version 61 brings TLS 1.3, the ability to add custom search engines to the location bar, tab warming, retained display lists, WebExtension tab management, and the Accessibility Tools Inspector. Mozilla doesn't break out the exact numbers for Firefox, though the company does say "half a billion people around the world" use the browser. In other words, it's a major platform that web developers have to consider.
I am guessing this means "preloading tabs"? Ugh. Just stop already.
My personal test case will be with the UniFi 5.7/5.8 Controller web interface page. I've found consistently under the last few versions of Firefox that, while it's fine for at least an hour, if I leave it up constantly for ease of monitoring then after a day or two the Firefox process inevitably ends up pegging an entire core. There is no video whatsoever or any particularly fancy graphical usage, and while they may be doing something odd internally (I haven't had time to really dig into it) I'm not sure Firefox should end up in that state there over time. It's relatively easily repeatable though (will take a day but requires no interaction on my part) so I look forward to testing it. Although if it does resolve the problem I'll be mildly bummed whatever fix it was didn't make it into ESR, but so it goes.
that is what *I* want to know...
Anyone who needs 52ESR will be out of luck soon as its the last patch cycle. Those with Windows XP, XUL and NPAPI requirements are affected. Also Chrome is discontinuing Marvericks support, which also throws perfectly working Macs into the trash. Don’t give me the “it’s old” spiel, Mavericks is less than 5 years old.
C'mon, how about some better Dev tools please?
I like my browser meek and docile, not aggressively second-guessing me and doing all sorts of crap "just in case". It already does too much!
How about a way to stop all javascript when the tab isn't active? Or a way to block javascript by domain, instead of having to rely on an adblocker? Opera has had that last one for ages.
(I should point out the Canadian version of Tab is made from real maple sugar and baby seal hearts)
(and Canadians are socialists, not commies, there's a difference)
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Ever since Nov, 2017 when they broke the extensions, their market share has gone down each month. They are currently at only 5.27%. They are irrelevant.
"Tab Warming" sounds like a great, well thought out feature! Yay!
Not necessarily.
Do you want the rendering of the current page to slow down because you flicked the mouse out of view, which happened to be over a tab?
Do you want the machine and network to slow to a crawl because you dragged the pointer across a great many tabs on the way to the one you wanted, and they all start rendering?
Do you want even higher memory/CPU use for a product that's already considered seriously bloated?
Dear all:
Tired of google changing the browser, moving the interface around and breaking things Every 6 Weeks?
Tired of microsoft changing the browser, moving the interface around and breaking things Every 6 Weeks?
Tired of using safari and not having support of big boy tools, like iLO, IPIMI and the web consoles of Orocle and SAP?
Welcome to the wonderful world of Firefox ESR.
Current ESR (60) will be supported for about a year, with no new features or UI changes, only security patches and bug fixes. It has the full power of Quantum (which means more or less performance parity with the other browsers).
The version released today is 60.1, which means that ESR 60 has been in the wild for a couple of months now, allowing time to iron any rough edges, and includes a Fix for tab_selected so it works when headerURL is not set (uplifted to 60)...
Also, since the "Great breakage" of PlugIns and Add-ons happened in FireFox 53, chances are most of your plug-ins and extensions already have been ported (or have suitable equivalents).
As we speak, I am downloading it, and will install it over ESR 52, after I delete as much as possible of all the NPAPI Plug-ins that litter my Computer (Citrix, saba-meeting, WebEx, iLO, Huawei IPIMI, etc).
ESR Is the best balance for people who use the Browser as a Tool to "get things done", and not as an entertainment/media consumption.
*** Suerte a todos y Feliz dia!
"How much more electricity will "tab warming"
Minimal.
Firefox Tab Warming explained:
https://www.ghacks.net/2018/01...
From TFA:
There’s also a small update to extensions built using the WebExtension API. WebExtensions can now hide tabs and manage the behavior of the browser when a tab is opened or closed.
And how do I disable it? Seriously, why would we want the browser to do stuff like this? Just what I need, more seemingly random things happening that I can't see and/or presumably control ...
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
If 15% is your cutoff, only Chrome will count: http://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share
Yeah... that's pretty much how they think.
the ability to add custom search engines to the location bar
I've been doing that for years now. Did Mozilla forget about their own feature, one of the features that keeps me on Firefox, I might add?
Use trve Norwegian Vivaldi, instead of shady Chinese Opera.
Exactly. Firefox fans might like to think that "it's a major platform that web developers have to consider." Sadly, my analytics disagree. For example, I just checked a leisure-related B2C site I run. Mobile is dominant in this market, so the main Android and iOS browsers rank highest as you'd expect. Of the desktop browsers, Chrome is biggest with nearly half the market share, and most of the rest is split between Safari and IE+Edge between them. Firefox comes just above the 1% mark looking at all traffic.
I'm sorry to see things going this way, because Safari is like the new IE and I don't think it's healthy for the future of the Web for Google to have so much influence. But the reality is that for sites like this, Firefox is not even close to being a major platform, and since we have bills to pay, our development effort has to follow the user base.
If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
Your Net Marketshare link with Firefox at 9.92% is narrowed to desktop as opposed to mobile. If you likewise narrow StatCounter to desktop, Firefox is at 11.55% (source). The negligible (0.3%) mobile usage share of Firefox for Android (source: StatCounter) is probably dragging down the overall numbers.
Nothing in that article suggests "minimal" other than the usual marketing BS. In fact, it works exactly as I expected it to, which is far from minimal.
Exactly. These silly acceleration features are exactly what cause responsiveness issues, not solve them. Every good UI programmer is supposed to know this.
What an absolute daft reply. UI responsiveness issues come up when a lot of activities queue at the same time. Starting some of them earlier and delaying others is one of the main ways to improve this responsiveness and has been part of the speed improvements from everything like UI design, background service management, kernel schedules, and even CPU design itself.