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US Government Study Concludes: You're Probably Washing Your Hands Wrong (cnn.com)

97% of us don't wash our hands properly, a new government study concludes. An anonymous reader quotes CNN: The study from the U.S. Department of Agriculture shows most consumers failed to wash their hands and rub with soap for 20 seconds. That's the amount of time recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which says that washing for shorter periods means fewer germs are removed. "Numerous" study participants also didn't dry their hands with a clean towel.

The study involved 383 people in six test kitchen facilities in the metro Raleigh-Durham area of North Carolina and in rural Smithfield, North Carolina, the USDA said... About half the time, participants spread bacteria to spice containers while preparing burgers, and 11% of the time, they spread bacteria to refrigerator handles... The results from the USDA's study indicate our hand-washing habits may be getting worse. A study done in 2013 by Michigan State University found only 5% of people washed their hands correctly....

A separate study released this month found 49 of 100 towels tested showed growth of bacteria normally found in or on the human body.

CNN helpfully provides the proper method for handwashing. (Wet hands, lather them with soap -- between fingers and under fingernails -- and then scrub for at least 20 seconds.) They recommend singing the alphabet song once or "Happy Birthday" twice.

Just in America, foodborne illnesses sicken 48 million people each year, sending 128,000 to hospitals and resulting in 3,000 deaths.

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  1. This is idiotic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Our environments should be clean, not sterile. We have defenses, evolved over millions of years, in place specifically for handling these things. Unless you're immuno-compromised, going into surgery, or work in a restaurant, there's no reason to not allow your immune system to do its job.

    1. Re: This is idiotic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You are wrong.

      Washing hands does not make the world sterile. It makes sure that the tools you were born with are clean enough to rub your eyes, scratch your skin or put food in your mouth.

      Generally, your hands may be clean enough. But, when you go to the bathroom, wash your hands. Touch raw meat, wash your hands. Shake hands with someone whose hygiene practices you do not know, wash your hands.

      Some things can make you very sick. Fecal bacteria is one of those things.

      I agree that we don't need a sterile world, but a clean one is ideal.

      Wash your hands!

    2. Re:This is idiotic by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      The point isn't that you should worry about regular bacteria, it is that if they had something contagious on their hands it would spread by the same amount as the regular harmless stuff. They're not going to infect volunteers with salmonella to do the test!

    3. Re:This is idiotic by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      there's no reason to not allow your immune system to do its job.

      You know the way the immune system does it's job right? You're at home in bed coughing running a fever. Just because you're not immunocompromised doesn't mean you should tongue kiss every diseased person out there.

      Wash your hands you dirty grub.

    4. Re: This is idiotic by religionofpeas · · Score: 2

      But, when you go to the bathroom, wash your hands. Touch raw meat, wash your hands. Shake hands with someone whose hygiene practices you do not know, wash your hands.

      How about opening a door ? Moving a chair ? Turning off the light in the bathroom after you wash your hands ? Buying a snack from a vending machine ?

      Some things can make you very sick. Fecal bacteria is one of those things.

      Yes, they *can*. Most of the time, they don't.

  2. allergies by religionofpeas · · Score: 4, Informative

    Studies have shown that excessive cleanliness increases chances of developing allergies.

    1. Re:allergies by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Studies have shown that excessive cleanliness increases chances of developing allergies.

      Only in the first few months of life. After that, it doesn't matter.

    2. Re:allergies by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      and the first few years.

      Nope. There is no evidence for that. In fact, the first few days seem to be the most important. C-section babies have more autoimmune disorders later in life, likely because they are not exposed to bacteria and fungi in the birth canal. Breastfeeders have less problems, likely because they ingest beneficial skin flora from their mothers.

    3. Re:allergies by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Studies have shown that excessive cleanliness increases chances of developing allergies.

      There's a big difference between excessive cleanliness and washing your hands properly.

    4. Re:allergies by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      How long would it take before your hands have the bacteria level of a 5 second wash ?

      Imagine having a 5 second was combined with your phone. Speaking of bacteria level where did you get your phone from? Your soft tissue pocket that was rubbing against your screen?

      The odds of you picking up something from a device only you use and that spends it's time against fabric (bacteria survive best on solid warm surfaces with moisture) are quite low compared to something like shaking someone's hand.

      Plus you should wipe your phone.

      You should understand the exposure and transmission of disease. I didn't just come up, wipe my snotty nose in my hands and then reach over and grab you by your belt buckle, stick my hand in your pocket and fondle your .... phone. :-)

      You're not protecting against yourself by washing your hands, you're protecting against others. For that you should focus on things that come in contact with others. I'm not a clean freak, but the one thing that truly freaks me out is a communal keyboard with visible gunk on it.

      Speaking of what you *should* be worried about, ever notice that in areas where food is served in many countries they offer anti-bacterial gel dispensers? Ever wonder why specifically in *that* area, hint: It has nothing to do with your pocket.

  3. Well by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We've known this approximately forever. Expecting people to do this perfect hand washing doesn't seem to be working, from a systems perspective. Maybe invent a box that people can just stick their hands in for thirty seconds, emerging perfectly washed. Or keep complaining about them being lazy and just keep letting them get other people sick. Whatever you prefer.

    1. Re:Well by Cederic · · Score: 2

      Ooh, let me think this through for a moment. Should I believe CDC or are they in fact entirely wrong and I need to listen to someone anonymous on the internet.

      On reflection I think I may need something a little more evidence oriented.

    2. Re:Well by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Expecting people to do this perfect hand washing doesn't seem to be working, from a systems perspective.

      The systems work against us, especially in America. One easy way to reduce the spread of disease, give people sickleave completely independent from their holiday leave, and tell them to stay the heck away from others. The problem with relying on washing from hands is that only works if you live and work in a bathroom. Normal people will do things while suffering from a viral infection like sneeze, cough, use their computer, touch doorknobs, god forbid rub their nose, and then they will walk up and shake your hand.

  4. Sterile environments are not good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't wipe your ass and eat the finger food without washing your hands, but if you always wash like you're preparing for doing surgery, you're going to do more damage than good.

  5. Is it worth it? by bluegutang · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How much time per year do I lose to foodborn illnesses?

    How much time would I lose due to washing my hands for 20+ seconds at a time after every use of the toilet?

    Off topic, but my grandmother said that when she installed a dishwasher, her family stopped catching diseases from each other. Presumably the dishwasher used hotter water than hand washing, and also washed more thoroughly. Now that's a cleanliness method which actually SAVES time and effort!

    1. Re:Is it worth it? by qeveren · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm curious to know what percentage of foodborne illnesses are caused by "didn't wash hands" and what percentage are caused by "saved money someplace in the food supply chain."

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    2. Re:Is it worth it? by budcub · · Score: 2

      My mother said the same thing when our family got its dishwasher. It might have been the chlorine bleach that's present in dishwashing detergent.

  6. So the fellow from Yale by mschuyler · · Score: 2

    and the fellow from Harvard were in the lavatory and both used the urinal. The fellow from Yale zipped up and prepared to leave. The fellow from Harvard proceeded to wash his hands and said, "At Harvard they teach is to wash our hands after urinating." The fellow from Yale replied, "At Yale they teach us not to urinate on our hands."

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    1. Re:So the fellow from Yale by TeknoHog · · Score: 2

      Unless you have a urinary tract infection, pee is rather sterile. In fact, urine is the recommended first aid to jellyfish stings, given its ammonia content and relative sterility in places with no running water. The main reason to wash your hands is gut bacteria that spread themselves around the skin down there.

      My pet pee-ve about public restrooms is the ordering of (1) do your thing, (2) zip up, (3) wash your hands. Specifically, stage 2 before 3. I'd rather not use my clothes as a germ wipe, but I feel this ordering is socially implied (if not dick-tated) by having a common wash-up area separate from the individual urinals and stalls. Of course, like some other things down there, it's a mixed bag -- your pants might not be super sanitary to begin with, so it's a good idea to wash after touching them anyway.

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  7. I don't want all the germs removed by quonset · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Removing all germs is why more and more people get sick so often. They're so germophobic their bodies don't develop immunity to minor bugs, let alone the bigger ones. These are the same people who run to the doctor when they have a sniffle and demand an antibiotic which is why we are beginning to see antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

    The best thing a child can do when growing up is eat two pounds of dirt.

    NOTE: this does not mean I don't wash my hands after using the restroom or that people who handle food should not wash their hands. I'm only saying that building up an immunity would go a long way to helping mitigate outbreaks.

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  9. I'd be happy ... by sgunhouse · · Score: 2

    if most people flushed the toilet or urinal and tried to wash their hands in the store. Truth is, many of them just come in, do their business and leave - no flush, no washing. Then there's those that do flush but don't wash.

    I'm familiar with the discussion about over-washing. Many of those germs are actually good for you. But come on, what's worse than an unsanitary public restroom?

  10. Re:But... by HiThere · · Score: 2

    That wouldn't do it. I suspect the gp uses a "soap" that's got a lot of oil in it. A *lot*. I'm dubious about how clean such soaps get you. But if he's a compulsive hand washer that may be the best choice he has, and just by itself warm water helps a lot.

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