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UK Politicians Push For FOSTA SESTA-Style Sex Censorship (engadget.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Engadget: If you're familiar with the phrase "that's a terrible idea, let's do it" then you might be one of the British MPs who think that the UK should do its own version of FOSTA-SESTA. That's exactly what Labour MP Sarah Champion has done by leading a debate this week for the creation of laws to criminalize websites used by sex workers in the UK -- under the rubric of fighting trafficking, of course. A self-appointed group of MPs (the "All-Party Parliamentary Group on Prostitution and the Global Sex Trade") fronted by Ms. Champion made a call to ban "prostitution websites" during a Wednesday House of Commons debate. Conflating sex work with trafficking just like their American counterparts, they claim websites where workers advertise and screen clients "directly and knowingly" profit from sex trafficking.
... will the MPs get their sex?
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Prostitution itself is not illegal in the UK, so how should these legal workers advertise their services? I guess the answer, according to Ms. Champion, is that they should not.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
The UK keeps taking steps toward a police state. This is the country where CCTV cameras are literally all over the place. George Orwell wouldn't be all that surprised about what is happening in his country.
Show of hands: Who is surprised that Republicans would enact these kind of repressive laws as soon as they got into power? The Great Leader can engage in all the prostitution he likes, but the rest of you better clean up your act.
In related news, family values stalwart Rep. Jim Jordan (R- The Holler), turns out to have been jacking it to boys getting molested for years as a wrestling coach. And what is it with Republican wrestling coaches and the sexual abuse of young men? It wasn't that long ago that the most powerful Republican in the nation did hard penitentiary time for molesting boys. What is it that draws Republicans to become wrestling coaches?
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You are welcome on my lawn.
Definitely "appeal to definition" logical fallacy.
Sex trafficking is importing people to act as sex workers under false pretences/illegally. It's basically modern slavery.
Though on that front, if that political wing concentrated funds on trying to cure modern slavery, instead of trying to tell everyone how bad ancient slavery was, then it may be further along the process of solving than it is now.
Forced castration for anyone who votes for this peice of legislation. If you don't want people to use their sexual organs, you don't get to use yours.
"Trademarks are the heraldry of the new feudalism."
I am a UK citizen and am a prostitute. Prostitution is not illegal although many of the activities surrounding prostitition are. Every prostitute I know of not only looks after the personal hygiene very well but also practcies safe sex to look after themselves. The biggest health danger is from the occasional stinky client who wants unprotected sex or risky body contact and they are firmly told "NO" and asked to leave.
Recent UK law conflating prostitition with sex trafficking is against the rules of the European single market.
As for people wanting to outlaw prostitition this never works. Another thing is will the prohibitionists change policy to create jobs and raise living standards so people are not forced or coerced by circumstances into prostitition? I doubt this very much.
Basically, Sarah Champion is just a jealous bitch who wants to raise the value of her tight ice cold slot by creating scarcity. She probably thinks all prostitutes are just the dumb girls who were prettier than her she hated at school when in fact many prostitutes have degrees or are successful businesswomen easing their way past a financial crunch caused by social climbing politicians.
You most certainly CAN legislate morality. The American War on (some) Drugs is a perfect example of this.
Hundreds of thousands of people are being killed in South America with some governments flirting with becoming failed states thanks in large part to America's war on drugs.
There's something of a clampdown on prostitution going on here in the Netherlands. The laws have largely remained the same, but mayors can simply opt to withhold or rescind licenses for brothels or windows. I expect the new mayor of Amsterdam, appointed* earlier this month, to increase pressure on the sex industry in this manner. With the results usually being that sex workers are criminalized further (it is hard for them even to open a bank account to conduct business), and driven into the hands of actual human traffickers.
*) Yes, our mayors are appointed, not elected. The city Council draws up a job profile, the ministry publishes the vacancy. The King's Commissioner for the province does the first selection of candidates, after which the City Council will recommend a few candidates. Usually, the #1 recommended candidate is then appointed.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
most men had no reason to visit prostitutes
That'll be why it's such a new phenomenon then?
Hookers aren't the problem here. We have an incel-mass producing culture that is arguably worse than a society that practices polygamy.
Welcome to human history. Shit, you think polygamy produces fewer men with no partner than monogamy? Not unless a substantial number of men are dying very young.
Final thought: If it were possible to legislate away the sex trafficking game, it would've been accomplished generations ago.
It's quite possible to mostly legislate the sex trafficking away. Has to be done like how it was done with the bootleggers, legalize and reasonably regulate. Just like most people like getting alcohol from a regulated source for a reasonable price, I'd assume most sex buyers would like similar. I know that if I was in the market to pay for sex, I'd prefer someone vetted as being clean and honest to buy it from.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism