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Stanley Kubrick Explains The '2001: A Space Odyssey' Ending In A Rare, Unearthed Video (esquire.com)

When it was originally released in 1968, audiences didn't really know what to make of "2001: A Space Odyssey". In fact, 250 critics walked out of the New York premiere, literally asking aloud, "What is this bullshit?"

[...] Stanley Kubrick himself was always hesitant to offer an explanation of the ending, once telling Playboy, "You're free to speculate as you wish about the philosophical and allegorical meaning of the film -- and such speculation is one indication that it has succeeded in gripping the audience at a deep level -- but I don't want to spell out a verbal road map for 2001 that every viewer will feel obligated to pursue or else fear he's missed the point." But, in a bizarre video, which appeared recently, the director seems to provide a very simple and clear explanation of the "2001: A Space Odyssey" ending. Esquire: It comes from a Japanese paranormal documentary from TV personality Jun'ichi Yaio made during the filming of The Shining. The documentary was never released, but footage was sold on eBay in 2016 and conveniently appeared online this week timed with the movie's 50th anniversary. Kubrick says in the interview: I've tried to avoid doing this ever since the picture came out. When you just say the ideas they sound foolish, whereas if they're dramatized one feels it, but I'll try. The idea was supposed to be that he is taken in by god-like entities, creatures of pure energy and intelligence with no shape or form. They put him in what I suppose you could describe as a human zoo to study him, and his whole life passes from that point on in that room. And he has no sense of time. It just seems to happen as it does in the film.

They choose this room, which is a very inaccurate replica of French architecture (deliberately so, inaccurate) because one was suggesting that they had some idea of something that he might think was pretty, but wasn't quite sure. Just as we're not quite sure what do in zoos with animals to try to give them what we think is their natural environment. Anyway, when they get finished with him, as happens in so many myths of all cultures in the world, he is transformed into some kind of super being and sent back to Earth, transformed and made into some sort of superman. We have to only guess what happens when he goes back. It is the pattern of a great deal of mythology, and that is what we were trying to suggest.

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  1. "I've tried to avoid doing this ..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've tried to avoid doing this ever since the picture came out. When you just say the ideas they sound foolish, whereas if they're dramatized one feels it ...

    Yep. He should have tried just a bit harder. This adds nothing to a great film.

    Anyone who wanted to know more could have just read the damn book.

  2. The Monolith by Kunedog · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not saying it's "correct," but I liked this interpretation of the monolith:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    TL:DW - It's the movie screen. When it's shown on the lunar surface, it looks like it's in the middle of a movie set. When Dave encounters it in space near the end, it's horizontal, and when it tilts backwards the camera mimics it.

  3. So, it’s basically the same ending as the bo by pedantic+bore · · Score: 2

    Geez.

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  4. Helpful by Bruce66423 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've slightly misinterpreted the sequence, but was happy to go with the flow; the point about him ending up as a some sort of super being was obvious; the fact that the French style environment was right was something that I hadn't picked up. I pleased to have got the extra data, but I was happy with where I was in interpreting it; I'd got enough to cope.

    I guess the problem was this was seriously groundbreaking, so Kubrick was speaking a totally new language. I first saw it 10 years after its release, so it was probably less challenging by then.

  5. Did Interstellar tie in with this? (spoilers) by mccalli · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It seems to me that Interstellar has a number of similarities with 2001. TARS could quite easily be seen as the Monolith in active form, and the ending of Interstellar was very much these "god-like beings" trying to operate within the confines of a human frame of reference.

    The bit Interstellar seems to add is that the beings are us, evolved from the future. I seem to recall that being explicit in the film but haven't seen in a while so could be misremembering. That's definitely the impression I got though. I always thought about 2001's ending in the manner Kubrick described, in part because I read the book but mostly because I thought it seemed clear the direction it was guided in - am surprised it was considered an unknown and matter for debate.

    1. Re:Did Interstellar tie in with this? (spoilers) by Quantum+gravity · · Score: 3, Informative

      And Kubrik work on the novel together with Clarke. But the idea for the story is based Clarke's short story "The Sentinel" and some others.

    2. Re:Did Interstellar tie in with this? (spoilers) by Sperbels · · Score: 5, Funny

      But Love is what gives a scientist his powers. It's an energy force created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us and binds the galaxy together.

    3. Re:Did Interstellar tie in with this? (spoilers) by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I cannot. I can tell you what I liked about the movie, I can tell you that people come in many flavours, and I can tell you to go read the many reviews each representing the opinion of the reviewer and often in very verbose terms why they liked (or didn't like) that movie.

      Why I liked it? Great despair story with an interesting premise for space travel, a very real plight of humanity's potential future. Accurate portrayal of science in many ways from relativity to conservation of momentum, to creative ways to solve problems experienced throughout the film without the usual case of outright making shit up. The use of relativity accurately as key plot device. A plot itself that doesn't rely on MacGuffins, red herrings, ex machinas (save for the completely irrelevant point of the main actor not dying at the end). An powerful orchestral track that drives the emotions of the movie. Overall decent acting. Realistic portrayal of the best of humanity breaking down in failure and isolation.

      Speaking of the best of humanity the humours side point of people again saving a stranded Matt Daemon and continuing that meme wasn't poorly received either, though I highly doubt it was an intended casting choice for that reason.

      You think shitty and overly long? I say just long enough to cover the exploration of several different planets in a story that could have been well served by a miniseries given the scope of what they were looking at. I'm glad they cut it down but you're complaining about shallowness, but likely for ...

      Was the ending a bit off the rails? Of course. But ultimately a) this is still fiction, and b) if you let any minor curve-ball ruin an otherwise good mood you're destined to live your life in misery, and this movie offered far more IMO that any single niggling thing was able to detract from it. Same with the shallowness of the movie. Just because "love" drove 2 minor elements of the movie, doesn't make the plot shallow. That's just letting a small niggling part ruin an otherwise damn good story.

  6. Re:2001 by tehcyder · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who cares? It's an awful movie once you strip away the special effects.

    Literally no plot, huge long, boring scenes. It's awful.

    If you were to remove the soundtrack as well, you'd see how damn boring some of those space-scenes are.

    The ending was always quite obvious in intent, but terrible in execution.

    Found the Star Wars fan.

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  7. Re:Needed a clearer message.. by mccalli · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or it might be metaphorical or even just surreal. I'm a massive fan of the 1967 series, The Prisoner. Some episodes are relatively straight forward. Others...well, if you can definitively tell me what the ending episode was about, line for line, then congratulations. It was an exercise in the surreal, but with definite themes within it. So too was 2001.

  8. Re:2001 by sjames · · Score: 4, Funny

    As compared to most movies today where if you remove the special effects all you have is a soundtrack and some guy going AHHHHHHHHHHH for an hour and a half plus a sex scene (two people going AHHHHHHHH for 5 minutes)?

  9. 2010: The year we make contact. by Ecuador · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the underrated "2010: The year we make contact" pretty much wraps up the 2001 story and explains everything while being a decent sci-fi movie on its own right. Definitely a recommended watch after 2001. Sure, not groundbreaking, but also no sequences that test the audience nerves/patience like in 2001 (referring of course to the start ape sequence and the approaching the monolith psychedelia).

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    1. Re:2010: The year we make contact. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      the underrated "2010: The year we make contact"

      I've seen 2010, and I found it quite forgettable

      2010: Odyssey Two is one of my favorite books of all time.

      The movie 2010: The Year We Make Contact was a near travesty. For some reason, the director felt the need to add the bit about a war between the U.S. and Soviet Union, just so he could insert his views about Cold War politics into the film. It made the movie felt dated, years before the fall of the Berlin Wall. And the whole "your government asked us to wake you up from hibernation because we found traces of chlorophyll" plot device made my 15-year-old self roll my eyes in disgust. I so wanted to see the Tsien, which was left out of the movie.

      Hell, since Hollywood is into reboots and remakes, the basic plot of 2010 could be remade by making it a stand-alone story that doesn't take place in the 2001 universe. It should be "inspired" by 2010 rather than a re-make or sequel to 2001, but I'm sure Hollywood will screw this up (probably by making it another Jack Ryan reboot, or setting it in the Cloverfield universe):

      A joint US-Russian mission to Jupiter to retrieve/rescue a previously lost mission. Or maybe to follow up on the findings of a probe to Europa that make a manned-mission worthwhile.

      However, the Chinese have secretly launched their own mission, so it's a race, as it was in the book.

      Maybe add in a private space venture to the mix - either an Elon Musk type science nerd, or a super-rich oligarch who wants some Europan sea-monkeys in his aquarium collection as a status symbol.

      Anyway, when they get to Jupiter, they discover the something that caused the first mission to fail...

  10. Re:2001 by EdwardFurlong · · Score: 2

    I don't get high often, but when I do I get high, I watch 2001 Space Odyssey.

  11. Re:Needed a clearer message.. by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if you can definitively tell me what the ending episode was about, line for line, then congratulations.

    Beancounter: Sorry, you're show's been canceled. You're overbudget after renting out that stupid island -- airdrop shipping is expensive! So wrap it up.
    McGoohan: WHAT? You told me 26 episodes! You promised!
    Beancounter: Oops. Life isn't pretty. Oh yeah, you've only got the props and cameras for two more days, the people for four.
    McGoohan: How on Earth am I supposed to finish up over 10 episodes of action in only two days?
    Beancounter: Not my problem. Oh, and I need to take that chair you're sitting on. There's still a bench over there -- for now. Don't expect it there after lunch. See you, wouldn't want to be you!

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  12. Didn't see the movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But I read the book. (In fact, I had gotten both the English original and a Dutch translation from the local library when I was a teenager. Started with mostly the translation, ended with mostly the original.) This description seems to match my impression from back when. Curious, a movie that actually matches the book reasonably well.

    But anyway, what is it with Americans and needing things explained to them? Eg. The Devil's Advocate could do without the flames and feathers at the end. If it wasn't obvious by then, you been asleep with your eyes open, mate?

    1. Re: Didn't see the movie by Type44Q · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But anyway, what is it with Americans and needing things explained to them?

      Are you suggesting that you'd already figured out what the end of 2001 was supposed to (pfft) or that, as a 'properly right-brained Euro' you simply "know not to ask?" (an even bigger "PFFT")

    2. Re:Didn't see the movie by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 5, Informative

      The movie was based on a short story by Arthur C. Clarke, who worked with Kubrick to write the screenplay. Clarke wrote the book at the same time that he and Kubrick were writing the screenplay.

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  13. So just as explained in book by MarkH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    By Arthur C Clarke. Except a lot more detail on the transformation, why and relationship to monolith.

    Why is this a new revelation? Kubrick and Clarke worked closely together on 2001 resulting in arguable best film/book combo ever.

    1. Re:So just as explained in book by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 2

      By Arthur C Clarke. Except a lot more detail on the transformation, why and relationship to monolith.

      Why is this a new revelation? Kubrick and Clarke worked closely together on 2001 resulting in arguable best film/book combo ever.

      It's a revelation because few people who have seen the movie have read the book. Sure, here on Slashdot that won't be true, but ask some random guy at work in a non-IT department and you'll find that he saw the film but didn't read the book. I read the book in my 20s because the film intrigued me, but I didn't really understand it and I was hoping the book might explain what I had seen. Note that the book is not an exact copy of the film and there are some differences as Clarke points out in his introductory comments.

  14. Re:Needed a clearer message.. by BorisAmmerlaan · · Score: 5, Informative

    McGoohan only wanted to make 13 episodes. The studio got him to make another 4, and you can definitely tell which ones were added.

    And you missed the perfect opportunity for a "Be seeing you" reference.

  15. Solution: READ THE BOOK by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you have to explain it because MILLIONS of people for decades have no idea what it was about, you did a shitty job of telling story.

    Here's the solution: Read the novel that was released concurrently with the movie. A two hour film will focus mainly on visuals and storytelling, and can't go into too much detail about "meaning". You need to read the book for that.

  16. Re: A movie that should have been aborted by whopis · · Score: 3, Informative

    The movie was not taken from the book. The book was published after the movie. Clarke wrote the screenplay and novel essentially at the same time.

  17. It does not matter what he thinks. by houghi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I once spoke with an artists about some modern painting he made. I asked him what it was. He told me that it did not matter what he thought it was. What was important was what _I_ thought it was.

    I hear the same with songwriters. Even if the words are pretty clear, the meaning it can have for each person will be different. I could be the song you fist heard with the love of your life. Or reminds you of a great time with friends.

    As movies are art, this goes for many movies as well. If I see or feel anything the makers of the movies did not intend, does not make my feelings and ideas about the movie false, just different.

    I am sure Kubrick thought along those lines and that is why he (almost) never spoke what the meaning was. Here he just explains what it was meaning to him. So if you do not agree with him, that is ok. It would have made him happy. Otherwise he would have give the answer many, many, many times before.

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    1. Re:It does not matter what he thinks. by nine-times · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That idea gets thrown around a lot and taken for fact, and I'm sure some of the people saying it believe it. Your artist friend may believe that it doesn't matter what he thinks the painting is of.

      However, that's not a universal view, and many artist very much have a view of what their art means. In fact, some artists will even refuse to talk about their work for the exact opposite reason. Although they had a particular message or idea they were trying to convey, they don't want to explain it further for fear of muddying the waters. They feel that their art a precise expression of what they want to express, and that further explanation would make it less clear.

      Also, a lot of times, even if an artist says "it doesn't matter what I think it means", they'll still get upset if you interpret it to mean something they don't like.

    2. Re:It does not matter what he thinks. by G-Man · · Score: 2

      This is pretty much the "Death of the Author" view from Roland Barthes

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_the_Author

  18. Re:2001 by houghi · · Score: 2

    That is clear, but is he talking about 2001 or any of the Star Wars movies?

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  19. Re:Exactly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Millions of *Americans*.

    It's like listening to a 6 year old constantly asking "Why did he do that ?...why did the car blow up?...why is the man running away?...where are the ninjas?"..

    Fuck....... American movies are supposed to be light entertainment....full of bright shiny things......leave the thinking to the people who have the capacity.

    And now....Kardashians !!

  20. Emperor's New Clothes by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 3, Informative

    I guess the problem was this was seriously groundbreaking, so Kubrick was speaking a totally new language.

    That's one possibility. However, I tend to get rather sceptical about these "Emperor's new clothes"-type of arguments that if you don't understand it you are just stupid. My personal interpretation was a lot more pragmatic: they had no clue how to really end the film so they strung together some ambiguous BS and used the old "it's your interpretation that matters, not mine" cop-out to escape having to explain it. I guess that's why I'm a scientist and not an artist.

    1. Re:Emperor's New Clothes by azcoyote · · Score: 4, Informative

      ... I tend to get rather sceptical about these "Emperor's new clothes"-type of arguments that if you don't understand it you are just stupid. My personal interpretation was a lot more pragmatic: they had no clue how to really end the film so they strung together some ambiguous BS and used the old "it's your interpretation that matters, not mine" cop-out to escape having to explain it. ...

      I'm inclined to agree. Kubrick had an idea of what it meant, but in the end his real point was the impact it would have on the audience, rather than a deeper meaning. In fact, the real significance of the movie is not that it was "groundbreaking," but rather that it is emblematic of twentieth-century modernism, which glorified technological advancement and the human spirit and believed in deeper meaning while also promoting purely subjective interpretations. So it's important that even though Kubrick intended for the audience to interpret it themselves, he also believed that it was deeply meaningful and signified something transcendent. Hence twentieth-century modernism tends to think that the human subject is able to transcend him or herself and directly encounter meaning that transcends context and history.

      In contrast, contemporary postmodern thinking still tends to encourage subjective interpretations, but it also tends to disavow any deeper meaning. It is more the act of interpretation that generates meaning.

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  21. Re:Exceedingly realistic by Quirkz · · Score: 2

    Real life often makes the poorest of stories. That's why we have writers and directors, to let the audience enjoy the good stuff.

    Trying to imagine a "Voyage to Mars" movie that runs for 3.5 years, most of it just people eating and jogging on treadmills.

  22. Re:just as monkeys evolve to humans, humans evolve by Falconhell · · Score: 2

    Daves not here man.

  23. Re: Solution: READ THE BOOK by reanjr · · Score: 2

    So, you think that any movie you've seen but haven't understood is the fault of the director? Nice fantasy you've constructed for yourself...

  24. Re:It was largely largely obvious to me by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    The top 5 thought-provoking films to watch are, in no particular order:
    - Plan 9 from Outer Space (1959)
    - Manos: The Hands of Fate (1966)
    - Howard the Duck (1986)
    - Battlefield Earth (2000)
    - Jack and Jill (2011)

    After watching those five movies, if will provoke you into never thinking about such lists on the Internet ever again.

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  25. Re: A movie that should have been aborted by ByteSlicer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well except for the part where Saturn became Jupiter... (ie a major mismatch between the book and movie)...

    Actually, the screenplay matched the book, but the special effects at the time couldn't get the rings of Saturn to look realistic, so they changed the plot to Jupiter at the last minute. By that time, the book had already gone to pre-print, so couldn't be fixed.

  26. Re:It was largely largely obvious to me by Dragonslicer · · Score: 2

    I certainly wouldn't call Howard the Duck "thought-provoking", but it was a fun movie.

    Plan 9 From Outer Space and Manos are very thought-provoking. You'll be spending the entire movie, and several hours afterward, thinking, "What the fuck was that?"

  27. Re:just as monkeys evolve to humans, humans evolve by Dragonslicer · · Score: 2

    Apes, not monkeys.

    Ook?

  28. Re:It was largely largely obvious to me by chill · · Score: 2

    Howard the Duck and Battlefield Earth have you spending the entire movie, and several hours afterward, thinking, "Why the fuck was that made?"

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  29. Re:It was largely largely obvious to me by Dragonslicer · · Score: 2

    I haven't seen Battlefield Earth, but Howard the Duck has an easy answer: it was a combination of "Because" and "Puff, puff, pass".

  30. Re:It was largely largely obvious to me by Wraithlyn · · Score: 2

    It's satirical, which is a form of humour.

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