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Hello Games Received Death Threats Over 'No Man's Sky' (theguardian.com)
The Guardian revisits the disastrous 2016 launch of the massive open-universe videogame No Man's Sky, in a new interview with company director Sean Murray:
"I've never liked talking to the press. I didn't enjoy it when I had to do it, and when I did it, I was naive and overly excited about my game. There are a lot of things around launch that I regret, or that I would do differently." He is reluctant to relive the particulars of what happened in the weeks and months following No Man's Sky's release in August 2016 ("I find it really personal, and I don't have any advice for dealing with it," he says), but it involved death threats, bomb threats sent to the studio and harassment of people who worked at Hello Games on a frightening scale. They were in regular contact with Scotland Yard and the Metropolitan police... "I remember getting a death threat about the fact that there were butterflies in our original trailer, and you could see them as you walked past them, but there weren't any butterflies in the launch game. I remember thinking to myself: 'Maybe when you're sending a death threat about butterflies in a game, you might be the bad guy....'"
Despite the controversy, No Man's Sky sold extremely well, and plenty of its players have stuck by it. A year after release, when Hello Games released the Atlas Rises update, about a million people showed up to play, and the average playtime was 45 hours.... It is still recognisable as the lonely, abstractly beautiful space-exploration game I played in 2016, but three big updates have added a lot more. It is now definitely a better game, with much more to do and a clearer structure... Now you can also construct bases, drive around in vehicles and -- as of next week -- invite other players to explore with you, in groups of four. You can crew a freighter together, or colonise a planet with ever-expanding constructions.
"You are still a tiny speck in an infinite universe," writes the Guardian. "it's just that now, you have some company." Murray describes it as a "Star Trek away team vibe."
In another interview, Murray concedes that during the five years they'd spent in development, "We talked about the game way earlier than we should have talked about the game.... "
Despite the controversy, No Man's Sky sold extremely well, and plenty of its players have stuck by it. A year after release, when Hello Games released the Atlas Rises update, about a million people showed up to play, and the average playtime was 45 hours.... It is still recognisable as the lonely, abstractly beautiful space-exploration game I played in 2016, but three big updates have added a lot more. It is now definitely a better game, with much more to do and a clearer structure... Now you can also construct bases, drive around in vehicles and -- as of next week -- invite other players to explore with you, in groups of four. You can crew a freighter together, or colonise a planet with ever-expanding constructions.
"You are still a tiny speck in an infinite universe," writes the Guardian. "it's just that now, you have some company." Murray describes it as a "Star Trek away team vibe."
In another interview, Murray concedes that during the five years they'd spent in development, "We talked about the game way earlier than we should have talked about the game.... "
Internet threats are not credible.
And yet so long as we effectively do nothing about them, they will continue. Explicit threats of physical harm should be at least ticketed.
I assumed it was about the horridly racist & misogynistic title. And it would have been totally justified too!
(AmiMoJo is up on blocks)
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Just because they lied and stole at such a massive scale does not give anyone the right to make death threats. They should be threating them with legal action not violence. I canâ(TM)t believe however, that this author thinks that just because people used the crap they purchased that things are ok. The game still isnâ(TM)t at the point where they promised. Thatâ(TM)s the developers fault. These people used Amazon, Walmart and Target as a kickstarter platform. Talk about death threats, but donâ(TM)t paint them as innocent of any crime.
I bought digitally and Sony wouldn't allow me to return the game based on false advertising. A chargeback would've gotten my account suspended. I just pirate everything now.
Its a damn game you dribbling idiot kid. Even if they advertised it as immersive photorealistic 3D and it ended up as a copy of space invaders it wouldn't warrant death threats. Get out of your parents basement and get a fucking sense of perspective for your own good as well as everyone else.
... formulaic shit.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Are you sure about that? Maybe take a loot at the numbers on this site here: https://robertsspaceindustries...
No question, Hello Games lied about a lot of features of the game as far as the release version goes. But they have been continuing to develop and expand the game in scope and features. And all that without asking for another penny of their customers for expansions or by adding micro transactions and so forth. With the update in 3 days the game is supposed to finally get its multi-player feature that lets you play together with friends and random people.
That incel guy who used a vehicle to commit mass murder posted about it on Facebook first. I seem to recall his hero Elliot Rodger posted on the internet before his mass murder spree too.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
If you are seriously upset about a video game to the point you are threatening someone you are a fucking loon.
There is absolutely no excuse to threaten anyone over a video game.
I shall repeat: a video game.
Got it? Now go take your meds, see your doctor about a higher dose and sign up for extra group therapy anger management sessions.
Video game.
Don't go unmasked into a small town, pickpocket the small town, and not leave that small town.
Judging by the sudden uptick in No Man's Sky articles here and elsewhere (such as the Amiga-rendered graphics which I won't link to, because I don't want to give additional publicity), I'm guessing that two years later, NMS is starting to become somewhat close to the game which was advertised, instead of the widely documented, I guess can you call it a "bait and switch" catastrophe which was shipped? Not really, a bait and switch in the traditional sense, but it's clear they didn't deliver what they advertised. I guess this is all so that we all remember the game and go "sure, I guess it's worth 20 bucks now"? Gotta recoup those losses.
Despite the controversy, No Man's Sky sold extremely well, and plenty of its players have stuck by it.
That is a cute, Guardian. Are you sure it is not that there was a controversy BECAUSE No Man’s Sky sold extremely well (on preorders based upon the lies that this piece of human garbage perpetrated for years before the release). Also, “stuck buy it”, as seen by the glowing reviews it received upon release. I don’t know who is more full of crap at this point, Sean or the author.
They are going to hide behind a few idiots who threatened, playing the victim in order to divert accusations made against their game.
Avantgarde Hebrew science fiction
I am not entirely sure what you are getting at with that link? Are you trying to say that people, who bought ships in a game that was supposed to be released years ago and whose developers now comedically enough decided to stop giving refunds, are liking SC’s overblown marketing promises? I’m certain there are some true believers, but you don’t cease refunds when you customer base is “liking” your work.
This is the problem. It will not, but it is supposed to.
I don’t know, maybe after hearing Sean’s lies for long enough, people who know more about this controversy than you do are not exactly losing sleep over the fact that this poor multimillionaire got a few nasty emails. Just a though. ;-)
These days? Arthur Conan Doyle received death threads when he killed Sherlock Holmes a century ago. Just how old are you exactly?
That being said, while I don’t intend to send any death threads to anyone myself (got to get it out of the way before someone gets upset), the question can be turned around just as easily. How coddled is the developer? He KNOWINGLY lied to millions of people who bought his product for YEARS and is now upset about the fact that of them mailed him that they “will fucking kill him”. Go and try doing that face-to-face to a million people. You will not get through the first hundred before someone bashes your jaw in. Truly the result of “everybody is a winner” education; not Sean’s fault at all.
For a procedurally generated open world game which is new through every playthrough people abandoned it incredibly quickly. The Atlas Rises saw a sudden uptick in gamers followed by an even sharper drop. Only a few months after launch the number of players ranged between the hundreds and very low thousands. It was a colossal bomb.
Idiots give each other death threats for all sorts of low level irrelevant bullshit. It's usually juvenile venting. But given what was promised and what was shipped I'm surprised that he didn't actually receive a pipebomb in the mail.
That incel guy who used a vehicle to commit mass murder posted about it on Facebook first.
Current evident points to no. That post after he was in custody(it was posted at 14:15, he was in custody by 13:55. and as it stands now it hasn't been entered into evidence either by the crown. I can say that there was other evidence that led the crown to filing 1st degree charges(premeditation) for it. I was far more disappointed that the first hearing was only 5 minutes long with charges and remand.
Just a FYI that superior court is fairly close(within 3hrs) and makes for a very nice day trip there.
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The lesson to be learned here should not even have to be stated, but it seems people aren't learning:
DON'T PREORDER GAMES
Seriously. Wait a day or two after it comes out, check the reviews, talk to people. See if it lives up to the hype, and then decide to buy it or leave it. People who buy things sight-unseen are simply asking to get ripped off.
Why the obsession with having to get it on day one? Are there really no other games you could play or things you could do for a couple of days? Does your ego hurt because, horrors, "someone might be enjoying it before you do"?
Multiple sources say that Facebook confirmed that the message is real.
http://thehill.com/policy/tech...
http://nymag.com/selectall/201...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/...
https://www.theglobeandmail.co...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wor...
I guess you have a Pastebin or a blog or something that says otherwise... But rather than argue, it might be easier to wait until his trial to see what evidence is presented. Doubtless Facebook will have provided logs etc.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
I knew it would be a giant failure solely based on the fact that it was a console space sim.
No Man's Sky isn't a space sim. You spend most of your time on planetary surfaces, not in your ship cockpit. Not only that, but ship combat isn't common.
Space sim has evolved beyond the capacity of stagnant console controllers, and the whole fanbase is housed on the PC. Flight Stick + Keyboard is the way to go.
They have? I'm not so sure of that, considering that THIS is a PSone controller:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The PS2 has these:
https://s.hswstatic.com/gif/ps...
Which you can plug this Hori Flight Stick 2 into:
http://www.ign.com/articles/20...
You might be thinking that it looks like a Saitek x45...that's because it IS a rebadged Saitek x45.
The PS3 has these USB ports:
https://assets.pcmag.com/media...
Which you can plug this into:
http://www.thrustmaster.com/en...
or this for that matter:
http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod-...
And play this (disc only):
https://store.playstation.com/...
or this:
https://store.playstation.com/...
You might be thinking that the latter reminds you of War Thunder...that's because it IS basically the test for War Thunder, and releasing it paid for War Thunder's development. So console owners were basically the Alpha Testers for War Thunder.
PS4's have these:
ps://media.psu.com/media/articles/image/ps4_usb_hard_drive.png
Which you can plug this into:
http://www.thrustmaster.com/en...
And play:
Elite Dangerous
https://store.playstation.com/...
or this:
Eve Valkyrie Warzone
https://store.playstation.com/...
or this:
War Thunder
https://store.playstation.com/...
with the latter you could also plug in this:
http://www.thrustmaster.com/en...
or this:
http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod-...
or any other HOTAS. Yes, there are PS4 owners playing War Thunder with Warthogs and Rhino's.
My point would be that their numbers are still rising steadily. There's even a spreadsheet that will give you some more insights by providing a time scale. https://docs.google.com/spread... I mean sure, if you don't give refunds there's no other way than up, hence their curve must by definition be steady, but we should be able to see at least some stagnation there if the hypothesis of my parent was universally applicable. However, instead of that we see a nearly constant slope with some jumps (due to special events). If you scroll a bit lower you'll be able to see a similar trend in the number of pledges.
It appears like no matter what, there will always be a significant influx of new people who are happily buying into the idea, ignoring all criticism and empirical evidence from other, less ambitious projects, that is already out there on the internet.
The original post was deleted shortly after the event. If you think otherwise, you can prove me wrong by simply providing a link.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Look at all the tie fighter input commands and try stuffing them on a console controller; from system controls, to firing switches and modes, to wingmate commands, to identification system, to target switching, to speed control, all these mechanics were utilized during every play (which is why it was a great game, it actually had you utilizing everything with constant purpose).
These?
https://strategywiki.org/wiki/...
Tie fighter was the new standard for all future Space Sim
I'm laughing because Tie Fighter is no more a "sim" than Sublogic's Jet or F15 Strike Eagle on PC, or Colony Wars on the PSone was. DCS, X-Flight, those are sims. Tie Fighter? Not a "sim", but it tries to pretend it is.
The only way you can try is through modifiers, which wouldn't work because they kill response time and increase missclicks.
Modifiers don't kill response time. PC gamers have been using them for years. What is holding down a key and using WASD to run or slowly creep, other than using modifiers.
These are the controls for the PS4 version of Elite Dangerous, which is pretty much the same as the PC version (I think the only thing PS4 users are missing is the option for custom voices):
https://support.frontier.co.uk...
You'll notice that the PS4 controller touchpad instead of being used as just one button, is used as 4. Also you can use the gyro sensor for headlook.
This is what Yahtzee himself says about your "PC Master Race" attitude:
He also has said he should have named elitist PC Gamers "PC Gaming Dick Slurp All-Stars"
If there are 1 million internet threats, and 2 of them turned out to be real, then internet threats are not credible. "Credible" is a higher bar than "possible".
Game devs get death threats when they change any stat in any game with players. That's just the nature of the business. I don't think any such threat has ever been real, though I'm not sure because game-related killings in Korea are actually a thing.
That being said, No Mans Sky was the most disappointing game release in human history, and in their case I'd maybe take the treats a bit more seriously. Heck, the hype was so high that game journalists who suggested the release date might be slipping got death threats. When Hello Games shipped a festering turd, well feelings were hurt.
I hear the upcoming patch might finally make the game most of what was initially promised. But I'm not getting my hopes up.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Personally I assume marketing is lying so I never get mad when I realize it.
To be fair, Hello Games took lying marketing to a heroic extreme, really blazing new trails in "completely making shit up" that EA and Ubisoft may not equal for years to come.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
The X-Wing and Tie fighter games weren't really space sims -- after all, you turned like a jet fighter -- but they were at least "simcade". I don't think there is an actual space sim beyond KSP and that one NASA game. I still long for a Babylon 5-themed space sim, though.
And, of course, filthy console peasants are not fit to wash the feet of your PC Gaming Overlords. Denying that just shows the onset of the cognitive decline that accompanies console gaming.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
And none of those can play TIE Fighter
What? Elite Dangerous has more complexity than Tie Fighter...a 24 year old game!
or X3 Terran Conflict
10 years old! What, are you playing games on some Athlon II with 2GB of RAM and can't play anything newer?
and none of the controllers you listed can do the job without an accompanying keyboard
Tie Fighter uses the keyboard for controls because most joysticks in 1994 didn't have many buttons. Not only that, it was a Star Wars game intended for mass appeal and designed to be played without extra peripherals since most PC owners didn't and still don't own joysticks/HOTAS
And with USB ports you CAN hook up a keyboard to consoles. In ED and War Thunder it is mostly used for communication, not control, since you're using the controller, or HOTAS to actually control the craft.
And again, Tie Fighter isn't a "sim". You must have low expectations if you think Tie Fighter, combat game for "Casuals who THINK they're all hardcore" a sim. It's no more a sim than Colony Wars.
So long as consoles don't have a keyboard, and games for them are not designed around a keyboard + peripheral, they are simply stagnant while the PC platform advances constantly.
I just pointed out several games on console that use HOTAS. And many console games use keyboards, consoles have USB ports for a reason. (Mostly for text entry or chat, not control). Didn't you read what I wrote.
As for PC advancing as a platform? Most PC gamers are shooter-boy dudebros just like on console. And if they aren't doing shooters they're doing MOBAS. They're CASUALS who THINK they're hardcore. The number of PC gamers who "DCS" or "X plane" is miniscule compared to the Overwatch/LoL/WoW playing masses.
And you think having played Tie Fighter makes you "elite" somehow? Come join us in the 21st century sometime.
So you probably think this https://www.bbc.com/news/world... is a good thing too?
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
The fan boys are just that... boys. NMS is for men and women who love the idea of space exploration.
As an adult (35 year-old) AAA developer who has worked on some of the best rated space games of all time... Let me tell you, No Man's Sky is a treasure. It's a game-making achievement. I am a game dev, and I studied NMS deeply. These tools and tricks have existed for only about 15 years and never in the same product before to such a high quality.
There's not very much that hits my quality bar, but I put at least 40 hours in. That means, it's an immense accomplishment for Hello games.
The juvenile can cry all day about 'promises'. It doesn't make a difference. What was delivered is pure gold.
but they were at least "simcade"
Yeah, the same would apply to Colony Wars or the various Wing Commanders, and some other games both console and PC.
I don't think there is an actual space sim beyond KSP
Which is on console now.
and that one NASA game.
Moonbase alpha? AEIOU! JOHN MADDEN!
Though I'm thinking there was some game with Buzz Aldrin in the 90's? This one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
I still long for a Babylon 5-themed space sim, though.
Something Wing Commander-ish?
And, of course, filthy console peasants are not fit to wash the feet of your PC Gaming Overlords. Denying that just shows the onset of the cognitive decline that accompanies console gaming.
Laughs.
Foolish PC Gaming Dick Slurp All-Star! The Atari 2600 was released when all PC games had was text based games like hangman or snake or yahtzee, or maybe Rogue if you were lucky.
Atari commercial from 1977:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Console games were already big business in 1977. PC games...not so much. Even high selling PC games in 1980 might sell only 10 or 20 thousand copies. Console games...well the 2600 version of Space Invaders sold 2 million copies. That's professionally packaged. Not some hand copied disk in a baggie with mimeographed instructions like say Akalabeth or something.
That said, the relationship between console gaming, notwithstanding the consoles are a type of computer, and "PC" gaming is synergistic.
We're all pretty much playing the same games now anyway. Minecraft, Skyrim, Brown-Shooter-of-the-Week, niche-market-space-game like NMS, indie games.
Elite Dangerous can't be played on a console gamepad, as this article sums up everything with a page dedicated to every control system:
Elite: Dangerous Guide > Game Guide > Controls
I'm sorry, but that guide is from a Polish guy and we all know how Poles tend to be PC Master Race asshats who don't know console gaming because of import duties making console stuff more expensive.
ED CAN be played on a gamepad, because I've done it. I own the game. Have you tried it, or are you parroting the PC Master race shit because you don't know any better.
How is this relevant to the fact that console gamepads can't run the game
"Can't" is a rather strong thing to say, isn't it. How do you know it's "Can't"? Basically, "can't" is your opinion.
rather than some random guy, thank you.
Tie Fighter uses atmospheric style turning, not actual space physics! And besides, you're "a random guy" too. What makes you an expert on what consoles can and cannot do? Do you even own one?
You pointed a bunch of games of which half have less mechanics than TIE Fighter itself, or which can't be run on a console gamepad.
Did you even look at the ED control setup? ED has MUCH more complexity than Tie-Fighter.
Every single one of the games I linked to can be played with gamepad as well.
because it doesn't have the limited default input device like a console controller, are two different things.
The default input on PC is keyboard...which isn't analog. Would you really want to fly a plane with just the keyboard?
Meanwhile PC developers work with a much more sophisticated and dynamic keyboard, therefore resulting in advanced and advancing games and genres.
But PC developers and console developers are the SAME developers. We're all, PC and Console gamers, playing pretty much the SAME games. This story is about No Man's Sky, which is both on console AND PC.
This is simple fact you can't argue since it is quantifiable at first sight.
So you get to shut down any disagreement because you're PC master race? It is NOT a simple fact because there have been advancing games and genres on consoles. For goodness sake the first RTS was a console game! WoW has borrowed ideas from console MMOs. The original version of Elite was inspired by Star Raiders on 2600 and Atari 400/800.
The relationship between PC gaming and console gaming (which are also computers), is synergistic. You might think you're all superior because you play on PC, but games are games. And things have changed since the days of Tie Fighter, we're all playing pretty much the same games now whatever the platform.
Missing features are not an acceptable excuse to threaten someone's life. Apart from a Switch I don't even own a current gen console and haven't been an avid gamer for years. However from what I've read about this story, the developer has done nothing wrong. They've even gone out of their way releasing major feature updates two years after the game's release. You people even have the multiplayer you were promised at this point, GET OVER IT. And as I understand even before the game was released, the devs tried to correct people's expectations about the game's scope so that players could make an informed decision before they purchased. At that point the fault is entirely on the gamers, not the devs who were honest about what they managed to deliver in the end.
I remember when Killzone 2 was announced for the PS3. Turned out after the fact that the trailer was just a CGI movie, not even running on a PS3. Sony created a CGI Movie, ran it on a PC and said "this is what Killzone will look like". Turns out the graphics they showed weren't even possible on a PS4, let alone a PS3. Game Devs have been embellishing their games to sell hype since Gaming media came into existence. I've seen games start out as 3rd person action adventures and by the time their released, it was an FPS. If you can't handle that sort of thing, quit playing video games or just ignore hype. If you buy a game before you've read the reviews IT'S YOUR FAULT PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Act like ****ing adults for once.
Paragraph breaks are a thing, you know.
PC has more genres than consoles for starters,
It does?
you sure as fuck won't play Total War games on consoles unless they are some simplistic degraded version.
Isn't total war, turn-based and from ex amiga developers turned PC Master Race dickheads? Of course they aren't going to port the thing, they hate consoles because they killed their precious Amiga as a platform.
Consoles have their OWN turn-based strategy game series, which you don't know about.
Consoles come with shitty default console gamepads that are all low-input slow devices.
PC's come with a keyboard + mouse by default which are jointly high-input fast devices.
What the hell are you on about? Keyboard, fast? Going to play a platformer with your keyboard then? Going to control pitch and yaw with a keyboard? Going to steer a car with a keyboard?
Low-input and slow is superficial and limited (stagnant), high-input and fast enables more deep and complexity.
Ever play Carnage heart? It's a mech game where you program your mechs using boolean logic...it's a console game. You just THINK PC games are more complex and "cerebral" because of your pre-existing bias. If you were to really honestly take a look outside at what's really going on, you'd see games just as complex on consoles.
You remind me of CGW's former RPG guy, Desslock. He derided console games as "mushroom man" games because his idea of what console games were was set back in 1985 and he never updated his views over time. He thought there were NO console strategy or RPG games because he didn't see any titles he recognized from the PC series he was familiar with One of his compatriots, who played both PC and console, got tired of his ignorance and told him about various console RPG's and strategy games that he simply didn't know about.
His last essay in the magazine before they got rid of their RPG section was 4 great RPG's he considered "Must Play". Three were cross-platform with at least one console, and the 4th....it was PS3 only at that time. He'd bought a PS3 specifically to play it.
The PC has left the consoles in dust in terms of gameplay innovation and advancement because the console gamepads in their shitty low input state are the default on consoles
You really do believe the innovation is all on the PC side? Truly? What was the last console game you played?
I stopped a long time ago. I've been burned one too many times. You want to sell me a game, you better have reviews (from actual reviewers rather than paid mouthpieces) to convince me. Yes, that means I play the game a week or two later, but I avoid duds like that.
Frankly, far too often we've seen games, even from formerly reputable studios, fall short of their promises. Franchises that used to be a guaranteed feast were turned into bland and boring cheap shots. No thanks. Prove that you delivered, and then I'll buy. Especially if you call no backsies by default.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
That being said, No Mans Sky was the most disappointing game release in human history, [...]
Bullshit! This just shows that you not been playing games for very long. One that eclipses NMS by far is Daikatana, where the developer hyped the game by epic proportions. And that is just off the top of my head.
Many Peter Molyneux's games were a letdown. They had their moments but by far nowhere near what they advertised for. I especially liked the demo he showed on Black and White where he had a world with an island on it. Zooming in on the island, through the clouds we could see forests and eventually a village. Zooming in further showed buildings in the village. Then a barrel behind one of the buildings. On the barrel there was an apple. From the apple a worm peeked out. Incredible level of detail.
Sure, that worm in the apple on the barrel in the village is there in the final game. But that is the only model in the game that has that level of detail. I enjoyed playing Black and White, but it was a letdown after all the hype.
"Blaming the victim"
I've never used this phrase before in my life. Damn you to hell!
His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
If you haven't ever experienced a death threat before, then the first one you get is damn scary. Credible or not, this should carry a criminal penalty.
the developer has done nothing wrong. They've even gone out of their way releasing major feature updates two years after the game's release
They promised the earth and delivered a small wet island. Spending two years drying it out still doesn't meet the original expectations they themselves set.
This doesn't justify death threats or the personal attacks they've experienced, but don't pretend the developer is pure and innocent.
Except that by focussing only on the availability of the sky for men it marginalises the role of women (and other genders) and perpetuates the patriarchical media focus on men.
Further, by interpreting this through its impact on men and disregarding the obvious and far greater implications for women you have demonstrated your own misogynist viewpoint and are complicit in the rape of feminist ideals, and thus feminists themselves.
Ergo, you're a rapist.
To be fair, the Warthog HOTAS has enough controls that you almost certainly could map the whole Tie Fighter keyset to it and never need to touch the keyboard.
(Good luck remembering which function is on which button/toggle/switch/hat though)
Did you even look at the ED control setup? ED has MUCH more complexity than Tie-Fighter.
ED keyboard commands: 34 in use during flight (not including pitch/yaw/shoot).
Tie Fighter keyboard commands: 58 during flight (not including pitch/yaw/shoot).
Maybe I'm missing some of the complexity.
Keyboard alone hasn't been default input since mid 1990's
Mid '80s really, especially if you include non-x86 PCs.
The original post was deleted by facebook after the event, not by him. Sorry if this comes crashing down on reality for you. That was in the news too, actually it's in two of the articles linked to the original articles you posted.
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Oh but I don't need to sockpuppet you. Especially when it's your bullshit, maybe you should have read the articles harder? Read the linked stories a bit more thoroughly? Besides, I can easily state that the admins are welcome to post either my IP or unique hash vs the anonymous cowards. Damn gonna be hard for you to explain why they're different huh?
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No question, Hello Games lied about a lot of features of the game as far as the release version goes. But they have been continuing to develop and expand the game in scope and features. And all that without asking for another penny of their customers for expansions or by adding micro transactions and so forth.
Whoop. De. Shit. They do not get a fucking medal for gradually adding in features that were promised for launch.
With the update in 3 days the game is supposed to finally get its multi-player feature that lets you play together with friends and random people.
How many years since launch, when the feature was promised?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
In these days of the video game industry you may as well give them a medal, because the modus operandi has become to never release such features that were promised for launch for free.
In these days of the video game industry you may as well give them a medal, because the modus operandi has become to never release such features that were promised for launch for free.
This is why I never preorder. My last preorder was actually hardware (Ouya) and we all know how that turned out. Luckily, I was able to return it.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
That's what I said... I mean, how could he have deleted it from police custody?
So anyway, about that link showing how the MSM got it wrong...
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
So you believe that scaring someone should carry a criminal penalty? What about hurting someone's feelings? Micro-aggressions?
Your feelings are your problem.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Yeah, the same would apply to Colony Wars or the various Wing Commanders
Did you ever play these games? They're not at all alike. Tie FIghter and X-Wing were a real 3D environment, with shots modeled flying through space, and other sim-like elements. You could fly anywhere in a very large volume of space, and engage with anything you could see. Most of the game was actually secret objectives, involving destroy capital ships and the like.
Wing Commander was a rails shooter. Not even the same genre.
I don't think there is an actual space sim beyond KSP
Which is on console now.
Heh, sort of. Almost. Nearly. But the shit from the sewers of the PC Gaming Overlords is valued as gold by filthy console peasants, I guess. Well, at least we can all unite in looking down on mobile gamers.
I still long for a Babylon 5-themed space sim, though.
Something Wing Commander-ish?
Obviously not a rails shooter. What would be the point. Bab-5 is the only TV SciFi with space fighters that don't turn like jets (did you ever see it?). It would be a neat setting for a space combat sim, as the lore would be consistent with an actual sim.
We're all pretty much playing the same games now anyway.
Only in the world of "AAA" games, but who wants to play those? It's all filthy console trash these days.
Meanwhile, have you played Factorio?
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Ad Hom is not an argument.
It's not Ad hominem, I know from experience that Europeans especially those from eastern Europe are far more likely to be fervent PC Master Race types. In part because consoles came to their countries later and with heavy import duties.
You can see the attitude in the Euro-centric gamer websites too.
It can't.
It most certainly can, I've done it. Think about it, in ED you don't need ALL your functions all the time. So some are in submenus and some actions are context sensitive. This reduces UI complexity and makes it more accessible. One shouldn't judge a game on how many buttons it uses. One could design a VERY complex game that only uses a directional pad and two buttons: confirm and cancel.
They factually can't as i outlined above. Using the gamepad to play most of them is akin to saying you can use a wooden stick to mine for iron.
You are using the word "can't" when you really mean "I don't think it's practical" In English, those are VERY different things.
They aren't. The two platforms diverged on their own paths a long time ago. We don't play the same games
I just checked the top 10 games being played on Steam right now, they are:
PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS
Dota 2
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
Warframe
Grand Theft Auto V
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege
Football Manager 2018
ARK: Survival Evolved
Team Fortress 2
Rocket League
Only ONE of those games is PC exclusive.
Maybe YOU think console and PC gamers are totally different beasts, but they're not. You may think the platforms have diverged, but they have more games in common than ever. Sure there's a few outliers from the more PC partisan devs in Europe and UK, but like I said, we're mostly playing the same games: Minecraft, Skyrim, Fortnite, GTA, PUBG, Brown-shooter-of-the-week, etc etc.
(with shitty default gamepad in mind).
I'm going to quote this right back at you: You may not like it, but i don't care what you don't like, your like is not my problem.
I have a whole Steam library of games that can't fit on the default console controller, that can't be played on it, that need to be stripped down and broken to play on consoles.
What, a bunch of hex wargames from Polish, Romanian or Russian devs either too poor or too full of that PC Master race partisan bullshit to go console?
It showcases that PC has evolved, while consoles are stagnant.
Stagnant? I can remember a time when PC Master race asshats like yourself said things like:
You're never see a blood soaked slugathon like DOOM on a kiddie console:
Or: Consoles may have DOOM but you'll never have online Deathmatch
or: Consoles may be online but you'll never have an MMO
or: You may have MMO's but you'll never have Bioware, Bethesda or Blizzard do a console game
or: You may have Bioware, Blizzard and Bethesda, but you'll never play a game like Minecraft.
etc etc.
MMO has evolved into games unplayable on consoles with default controllers, etc.
It has? If anything MMO's have become more actionized than in the past. EVERY MMO I have on my PS4 is also on PC. You telling me I haven't played STO, ESO, Neverwinter, DCUO, FFXIV, Onigiri, and Tera on my PS4?
Hell your console industry has gone so anti-consumer you don't even have proper backwards compatibility anymore
The reason we don't have it is because adding hardware compatibility drives the cost UP...everyone complained how much the early model PS3's cost. And there was an architecture shift from PPC to x86-64.
and your online gameplay premium cost scam i don't even want to go into.
Somebody has to pay for the servers, maybe you
ED hides a lot of stuff in submenus, because you don't need access to everything at every moment. It makes the game more accessible to a larger player base.
And some of Tie Fighter's controls exist just to make it "seem" more complex. ED reduces throttle to three buttons, even on PC.
ED also only uses one component targeting button (cyclical), rather than TF's 2
Some of Tie Fighters targeting controls are also redundant.
But I wasn't really referring to just the controls but the mechanics as well. ED isn't just space combat, it is also trading and exploration. In space...AND ground. A lot of that stuff is behind the menu systems you get when you hold down a button (or key)
But modern developers don't want to intimidate the players from wanting to play their game in the first place, accessibility and user friendliness matter Which is why ED has sold over 2.75 million copies.
Yeah. I've only got a Saitek x52 and the Thrustmaster T-flight HOTAS 4 myself, which I use solely with the PS4. (I run Linux and game on the PS4)
In the old days they included overlays with games to slap on your keyboard. Hell, even Star Raiders for the 2600 came with an overlay for the included keypad.
Violent threats have always been a crime in most countries. In the US this is called a "criminal threat".
accessibility and user friendliness matter Which is why ED has sold over 2.75 million copies.
Gameplay is king. Which is why Tie Fighter is in the top ten of almost every 'Best computer games ever' list.
That is a healthy stance, given the current marketing trends. I'd like to extend that sentiment to "never buy before you've seen thorough reviews".
In the case of No Man's Sky it wasn't apparent right away that the game lacked multi-player. After all it had a huge, procedurally generated universe where the odds of meeting another players would be abysmally small. Only later players found out that their client simply does not communicate with the internet in any meaningful way.
But if you look at projects like Star Citizen and their funding history (can be found in another one of my comments here) it does not appear like a lot has changed in the recent past when it comes to people 'investing' money in their dream despite it being subjected to heavy criticism frequently. There you have an increasing number of people that condemn CIG's business practices and the slow progress of the project and still a seemingly never ending stream of other vocal (maybe minorities) that defend it tooth and nail.
Only if the threat is credible, which is the whole point. Internet threats aren't (usually) credible. Game devs, particularly, get death threats continuously from outraged players - and it's just noise.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
No, no. Not that he deleted it. That it was POSTED from police custody, it was deleted after that by facebook - remember them? They stated that they did so.
So anyway, did you read the linked stories in those articles you posted? Your answer is right there.
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