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How AT&T and Verizon Rip Off DSL Customers (arstechnica.com)
A new white paper written by the National Digital Inclusion Alliance finds that AT&T and Verizon are selling slow DSL internet to tens of millions of customers for the same price as fiber customers. These customers have no choice but to pay the rate AT&T and Verizon give them because no other service is offered in their area. Ars Technica reports: AT&T has been charging $60 a month to DSL customers for service between 6 and 10Mbps downstream and 0.6Mbps to 1Mbps upstream, the white paper notes, citing AT&T's advertised prices from July 2018. AT&T also charges $60 a month for 50Mbps and 75Mbps download tiers and even for fiber service with symmetrical upload and download speeds of 100Mbps. These are the regular rates after first-year discounts end, before any extra fees and taxes. Verizon similarly charges $65 a month for 100Mbps fiber service (including a $10 router charge), and $63 or $64 a month for DSL service that provides download speeds between 1.5Mbps and 15Mbps, the white paper says. The price is this high partly "because Verizon ADSL service at any speed requires paying separately for a landline telephone account." [...] The NDIA calls the practice of charging identical prices for wildly different speeds "tier flattening." It affects both urban and rural customers who live in areas where AT&T and Verizon haven't upgraded networks because they face no competition, because the upgrades wouldn't result in higher profits, or both. These customers end up using "the oldest, slowest legacy infrastructure," while paying much higher per-megabit prices than other Internet users.
...a country with less people than an average US city spread over quite large land area, three different providers are competing who gets to offer gigabit fiber for your street / condo - because whoever gets to build the fiber "last mile" for your area gets money from all those customers going forward as it is unlikely multiple providers build it for same building and "wholesale" prices - using one provider's physical fiber to use another provider's ISP services is not really price competitive at the moment, tho there are regulatory talk about making this happen, so say Telia builds fiber to a condo, Elisa or DNA could still offer ISP services to everyone in that condo while paying "wholesale" cost of operating the underying fiber to Telia.
DSL is something you use only if you live in a sad place where fiber hasn't quite gotten to yet (getting rarer every year). Copper wiring is actively being dismantled and replaced by fiber in most places and by LTE in really remote places (think individual houses or small groups of houses built miles from anything else and any summer cottages in the forest)
Actual "trunk" fiber networks are effectively triple-built - Elisa, Telia and DNA all have their own fiber networks across the country and they are busy covering even suburb houses, street by street. Sure, the initial build-out to an individual house costs a bit (gotta have that backhoe to set the fiber from the street to the building) but it is an one-time fee and probably improves the value of the property at least as much as it costs.
I'm paying 39e/ month for 1000Mbit down, 100Mbit up.
Competition is good.
So, lul DSL for $60.
If the world is round how come satellite signals are always available? Shouldn't they go in and out of visibility if the world was round? My satellite TV always works as does my so called GPS. Explain that!
Wake up you sheep.
We know the planet is round because FSM created it in the shape of a holy meatball, all hail his noodly appendage.
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Because it costs a metric ton of money to start a new ISP when you have to lay down cable as well. If you are allowed to at all, that depends on the local government, which curiously often thinks that one provider is enough and that they don't want many cables in their ground. The cynic in me would say that the campaign contributions of certain ISPs have something to do with it. You might have heard about communities that tried to establish a WiFi based alternative, only to have it shot down by the local government.
So, there's no need to get government involved. It already is.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
No, this is not true at all. Major cities have those two options. Smaller cities/towns do not have cable (people get satellite TV, and yes they could get satellite internet if they want to pay even more for high latency and slower speeds but that's not real broadband).
And even where there ought to be two options, often there isn't. The last place I lived -- which was actually a fairly dense suburb of the capitol of California -- Comcast was my only option because AT&T declared the neighborhood oversubscribed and refused to offer DSL service. And where I currently live, also, Comcast is my only option -- AT&T doesn't explain why, but I just checked their website and verified they still won't offer me DSL.
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