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Thunderbird v60.0 Email Client Released (thunderbird.net)
Thunderbird version 60, featuring a number of new features and changes, is now available as a direct download from thunderbird.net, the email client vendor said. The changelog: When writing a message, a delete button now allows the removal of a recipient. This delete button is displayed when hovering the To/Cc/Bcc selector.
Many improvements to attachments handling during compose: Attachments can now be reordered using a dialog, keyboard shortcuts, or drag and drop. The "Attach" button moved to the right to be above the attachment pane. The access key of the attachment pane (e.g. Alt+M, may vary depending on localization, Ctrl+M on Mac) now also works to show or hide the pane. The attachment pane can also be shown initially when composing a new message. Right-click on the header to enable this option. Hiding a non-empty attachment pane will now show a placeholder paperclip to indicate the presence of attachments and avoid sending them accidentally.
"Edit Template" command. This also solves various problems when saving as template (duplicates created, message ID lost).
"New Message from Template" command.
Allow changing the Spellcheck Language from status bar.
Light and Dark themes.
WebExtension themes are now enabled in Thunderbird.
A default startup directory in the address book window can now be configured.
Individual feed update interval. Read the full-change log here.
Many improvements to attachments handling during compose: Attachments can now be reordered using a dialog, keyboard shortcuts, or drag and drop. The "Attach" button moved to the right to be above the attachment pane. The access key of the attachment pane (e.g. Alt+M, may vary depending on localization, Ctrl+M on Mac) now also works to show or hide the pane. The attachment pane can also be shown initially when composing a new message. Right-click on the header to enable this option. Hiding a non-empty attachment pane will now show a placeholder paperclip to indicate the presence of attachments and avoid sending them accidentally.
"Edit Template" command. This also solves various problems when saving as template (duplicates created, message ID lost).
"New Message from Template" command.
Allow changing the Spellcheck Language from status bar.
Light and Dark themes.
WebExtension themes are now enabled in Thunderbird.
A default startup directory in the address book window can now be configured.
Individual feed update interval. Read the full-change log here.
after Trump hangs for treason.
on the one hand, this type of announcement used to be slashdot in it's entirety.
on the other hand good god this change log is boring. Who cares?
My e-mail is currently Outlook and it uses Exchange. If I want to replace Outlook I need whatever I use to also be able to connect to Exchange.
That is, not only encrypt the account password and leave ALL OTHER ACCOUNT INFORMATION AND EMAILS UNENCRYPTED, like they have no god damn clue what encryption is about?
I hope they have fixed this. Also, fix that damn password requester from bouncing up and down twice for each email account added, instead of you know just asking for password ONCE.
If you can.
Which is a pity, because bad email clients rot the brain. Just look at all the outhouse users.
I pretty much quit using Thunderbird (and switched relatives/friends away) when it looked like Mozilla was pulling the rug out from under it:
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/04/25/1949239/mozilla-seeks-new-home-for-email-client-thunderbird
but I'm happy to see that someone did a little work to the old boy. However, did we really need a cut/paste of the unordered change notes? (Your top feature is "a delete button now allows the removal of a recipient" - really?)
Get lost nazi Trump voter.
When the heck did that happen? I suppose that is what happens when you rely on your Linux distribution to provide Thunderbird, but still, I'd expect something that links off mozilla.org. I looked, and https://www.mozilla.org/thunde... redirects to https://www.thunderbird.net/en... so its good, but my first reaction was - is this safe?
The desktop mail client seems to be going the way of the dodo (Not that I miss it much)
So what are the players still hanging around? Those of you that use desktop mail clients, what do you prefer?
We've got outlook - A strange and expensive dinosaur that's been around forever and carries baggage all the way from the 3.1x era but is utterly ubiquitous in the business world.
Thunderbird - Sort of the de-facto mail client because.. Everyone else is gone? If you need a desktop mail client that's consistent across many platforms this is pretty much it.
Groupwise/Lotus notes - Yeah these still exist. Anyone using them probably hates them and is either locked in to some legacy infrastructure or is desperately trying to replace them. Or works for IBM.
Apple's mail client - The one built in to OSX. Kinda janky and apparently is getting worse. They keep removing features and breaking things. Offers some nice integration if you're in to the apple world with both feet. Desktop mail software is fiddly and requires a lot of strange exceptions because of the ancient nature of email systems. This is not Apple's strong suit.
The windows built-in mail client - This is a wierd and much maligned piece of software. Rightly so. It was complete shite since it congealed out of the start screen hell that was windows 8.. Though it does keep improving! The very latest version that's in the very latest release of windows 10 is.. Actually not all that bad. It natively supports a wide range of popular email services and actually seems to function well enough. Does not seem suited for work use.
I use SeaMonkey as my email program. (Since I run it as my default browser)
I did use Thunderbird a number of years ago
I wonder if anyone still remembers Gerry and Sylvia Anderson and their puppets
Let me just say that I love Thunderbird and I use it and recommend it wherever I can. It does exactly what I want and need from a graphical IMAP client, is rock solid, good safety track record. E-mail has been a stable protocol for decades, so it's natural the the software that deals with it is mature and doesn't require rapid releases. The little niceties mentioned in the linked article are good to have, but ultimately Thunderbird was already a great open source offering. Big thank you to the team.
I think there is still one person out there somewhere using desktop email...
The rest of us moved to webmail years ago.
New Mail Notification Icon remains in Taskbar until manual "get new mail",
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/s...
15 years old, still "minor" and "unclassified".
Thunderbird has one of the ugliest l, dated looking user interfaces. Needs a total overhaul.
Why does the story and change log plunge straight in to the gory details of one of the cosmetic changes? Probably because thereâ(TM)s nothing new. Maybe OAuth support for the remaining Yahoo users? But essentially nothing much to talk about. Does it default to maildir *yet*? Or still stuck with the backup breaking mbox format?
Why all these calendar tool changes? Why is calendar even part of an email tool? Same crappy Netscape/Mozilla devs who canâ(TM)t understand anything other than monolithic processes? Probably wondering where the browser and website creation items have gone from the window menu.
I've used thunderbird for years, and years and years. Never any problems. So, pretty much happy.
The one issue that is a problem, that does not seem to be getting better. Realistically, the business world largely runs on Outlook. That means I get emails all the time with winmail.dat TNEF attachments. Thunderbird does not handle TNEF attachments, this requires an addon of some kind.
At this point, the only plug in has not been updated in several years and appears to have been abandoned. Proper handling of TNEF attachments really, really, really needs to be properly addressed by Thunderbid, without having to rely on an add on that may or may not actually work in release 60.
17 year old feature request. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/s... The biggest feature that keeps enterprises from adopting TB.
We need backup copies of emails! The Thunderbird files are excellent. They use SQLite database software.
We are storing backup copies in 4 places.
How can one swap google for bing as the Thunderbird search engine? The plug-in that had done that no longer works.
That's not a bug, it's a feature. Open and Free mail clients should not handle proprietary attachments.
Come on, boys! 99% of all new Windows installations are 64 bit since Windows 7. Where is your problem?
I wish SeaMonkey Composer would be made into a separate program. If someone does that, I can contribute to the documentation.
...is still NOT fixed!
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589870
I run Thunderbird but it's bugs like these that should have been fixed a long time ago.
If you are an outlook user, compared to a Thunderbird what are you getting that is going to make you drop it in awe of the other client?
Lately, a lot of people tell me that they plan to switch from Windows to X11/Linux sometime between now and January 2020 when security updates for Windows 7 end. To make the transition smoother, one might consider switching in advance to free software available for both platforms. For example, one might switch early from Microsoft Office to LibreOffice, from Edge to Firefox, and from Outlook to Thunderbird, as a way to minimize the study gradient of learning X11/Linux once the time comes. Even the Free Software Foundation recognizes that switching to free applications is a good first step.
It works as expected and has all the functionality you need. Just solid choice.
But at the same time it has its weird quirks and barely moving when using big IMAP inboxes
I've been pretty happy with CardDAV support via the CardBook addon, which lets me connect (read/write) to the same contact list as on my smart phone and web mail. CardDAV is an extension of WebDAV and implemented via HTTP rather than LDAP, but it's far more standardized and specialized to contact management.
Perhaps you can connect via CalDAV to a DavMail intermediary that then translates to LDAP. Perhaps your enterprise can maintain a global DavMail server to ease that. See also Bug 86405 comment 86, which extols the virtues of CardDAV.
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