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Thunderbird v60.0 Email Client Released (thunderbird.net)

Thunderbird version 60, featuring a number of new features and changes, is now available as a direct download from thunderbird.net, the email client vendor said. The changelog: When writing a message, a delete button now allows the removal of a recipient. This delete button is displayed when hovering the To/Cc/Bcc selector.
Many improvements to attachments handling during compose: Attachments can now be reordered using a dialog, keyboard shortcuts, or drag and drop. The "Attach" button moved to the right to be above the attachment pane. The access key of the attachment pane (e.g. Alt+M, may vary depending on localization, Ctrl+M on Mac) now also works to show or hide the pane. The attachment pane can also be shown initially when composing a new message. Right-click on the header to enable this option. Hiding a non-empty attachment pane will now show a placeholder paperclip to indicate the presence of attachments and avoid sending them accidentally.
"Edit Template" command. This also solves various problems when saving as template (duplicates created, message ID lost).
"New Message from Template" command.
Allow changing the Spellcheck Language from status bar.
Light and Dark themes.
WebExtension themes are now enabled in Thunderbird.
A default startup directory in the address book window can now be configured.
Individual feed update interval.
Read the full-change log here.

14 of 100 comments (clear)

  1. Re:snorrre by rudy_wayne · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like how this article starts out with a link.

    To a tag.

    *facepalm*

    The level of incompetence here never ceases to amaze and amuse.

  2. Why the cut/paste of change notes? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I pretty much quit using Thunderbird (and switched relatives/friends away) when it looked like Mozilla was pulling the rug out from under it:

    https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/04/25/1949239/mozilla-seeks-new-home-for-email-client-thunderbird

    but I'm happy to see that someone did a little work to the old boy. However, did we really need a cut/paste of the unordered change notes? (Your top feature is "a delete button now allows the removal of a recipient" - really?)

    1. Re:Why the cut/paste of change notes? by kobaz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      2018 Called and wants all your data in the cloud so that when it rains it goes *poof*.

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  3. Re:Can I use this with Exchange? by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Informative

    That is what is called in the industry as vendor lock in.
    They sell you a wonderfully integrated system, which is all fine and good until you want to De-integrate with the system. Then you need to make the choice, loose features, or replace entire system.

    A system that uses Open Standards may have all the features, but will require some additional setup work. As Emails, Calendars, Contacts, Single Signon authentication are all different protocols, and can be managed across may different servers vs an exchange server which does it all... Except when something new comes out.

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  4. Re:Can I use this with Exchange? by jawtheshark · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Look into DAVMail.

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  5. Re:Version 60 and still crappy by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As a user who chooses neither Outlook or Thunderbird, here's my list of "killer features" in Outlook:

    • Full Exchange support
    • Calendar/Skype/address list integration
    • GPO-configurable options
    • Smoother handling of large mailboxes

    Similarly, here's my list for Thunderbird:

    • Open standards, open source, etc.
    • Better support for IMAP/POP3
    • Older interface style (less UI learning curve)
    • Fully-client-side filtering

    Personally, I use GMail, which comes with a whole separate list of pros and cons, which basically boils down to "integrates well, but only with Google products", but it works for me.

    If you're in a corporate Exchange environment, Outlook is the best integration you'll get. If you run your own non-Exchange mail server, Thunderbird is pretty darned good. If you're lazy and don't care to ever think about email, GMail is probably all you need.

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  6. Re: snorrre by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd say it is Yuge! Between 52 and 60 there was a major revamp/rewrite of the Firefox engine. I don't think they even call it Gecko anymore, now it is Quantum.

    TB 52 is Thunderbird Gecko
    TB 60 is Thunderbird Quantum

  7. Love for Thunderbird by UPi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let me just say that I love Thunderbird and I use it and recommend it wherever I can. It does exactly what I want and need from a graphical IMAP client, is rock solid, good safety track record. E-mail has been a stable protocol for decades, so it's natural the the software that deals with it is mature and doesn't require rapid releases. The little niceties mentioned in the linked article are good to have, but ultimately Thunderbird was already a great open source offering. Big thank you to the team.

  8. 15 year old bug - basic new mail functionality by nyet · · Score: 3, Interesting

    New Mail Notification Icon remains in Taskbar until manual "get new mail",

    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/s...

    15 years old, still "minor" and "unclassified".

  9. LDAP Write Support by sarku · · Score: 2, Interesting

    17 year old feature request. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/s... The biggest feature that keeps enterprises from adopting TB.

  10. Re:Can I use this with Exchange? by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 2

    My e-mail is currently Outlook and it uses Exchange. If I want to replace Outlook I need whatever I use to also be able to connect to Exchange.

    I used to use Thunderbird, but no longer do. Basically I got with my current employer because they (Fortune 500 company) bought out my previous employer. For a few years they left us alone and we managed our own email and I used Thunderbird. Still miss Thunderbird. It was awesome. Outlook is not awesome. It's better than Lotus Notes, but what isn't? Here's a problem you may have. In theory I could make Thunderbird connect to our Exchange server, but the problem is that to set it up, it requires some information about the Exchange server that I don't know and can't get because I don't have a need to know. Also, our company uses Calendar a lot and I don't know a way to make Thunderbird handle that correctly from Exchange. Sadly, it's accurate to say here that if you have to ask, you won't be able to make it work.

  11. Re:Can I use this with Exchange? by Pitawg · · Score: 2

    Currently using Thunderbird 52.91 (icedove) on debian to connect to Exchange with ExQuilla add-on for Exchange I believe using the web service port functionality. With Lightning, and LookOut+ add-ons helping translate some of the in-message items, I have functional email for work, and Exchange to Thunderbird Calendar population from invites. I have to RDP to an office machine's Outlook in order to add my own calendar entries if others are to see with Exchange's calendar, and for auto out-of-office messaging, which are the remaining incompatibility issues. Have had minor bugs occasionally repaired with updates, but has worked well for a few years since conversion to 2010+ (2012 Exchange maybe?) Exchange server.

    Hope the v60 version will not mess this up if upgrade comes soon.

  12. Re:Can I use this with Exchange? by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

    Thunderbird works with Exchange via imap without any plugin. The free Lightning plugin gives you calendar. Exquilla gives you full Exchange compatibility, and used to cost money but is now free.

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  13. Re:Can I use this with Exchange? by jrumney · · Score: 2

    According to the description, it is mail and contacts only. Most Exchange servers have IMAP enabled for mail, but if your's doesn't then I guess this is useful. Otherwise, IMAP for mail coupled with TbSync for everything else seems a better fit.