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Apple's Amsterdam Store Evacuated After iPad Battery Explodes (9to5mac.com)

Slashdot readers radi0man and DeBaas report of an exploding iPad battery in Apple's Amsterdam store. DeBaas writes: An exploding iPad led to the Amsterdam Apple store being evacuated, as reported by 9to5mac and local news in dutch. The store reopened after the fire brigade ventilated the store. 9to5Mac notes that this is the third evacuation this year of an Apple store due to an exploding battery -- the other two were from iPhones. The iPad and its punctured battery were put in a container of sand after it exploded. No major injuries were reported, however, "three employees who experienced trouble breathing were treated by first responders," reports 9to5Mac.

237 comments

  1. Given the quality of apple products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'm surprised all of their stores are not in flames.

    1. Re:Given the quality of apple products by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Metaphorically, you mean.

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    2. Re: Given the quality of apple products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple stores are new, and all new stores must have fire suppression systems.

    3. Re:Given the quality of apple products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They were holding it wrong. See TSB#632748

    4. Re:Given the quality of apple products by Tough+Love · · Score: 1, Informative

      still getting nearly all the mobile profits.

      Only if you don't count the money that flows through all the levels of the Android manufacturing, distribution and aftermarket chain. When you do that, the Android economy dwarfs Apple. And you can say, the Android economy is far more beneficial to the world in general because the money gets spread around a lot more instead of being hogged by one successful (for now) monopolist. Lots of people making lots of money off Android, impossible to deny it, unless of course you happen to be an Apple apologist.

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    5. Re: Given the quality of apple products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Building codes are not universal to every locality.

    6. Re:Given the quality of apple products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Market share is much more important. It is the sole metric that determines the dominance of a platform. The platform with dominance will receive all of the user focus, developer focus and will survive in the long run. iOS devices won't exist in 10 more years whereas Android will thrive.

    7. Re: Given the quality of apple products by johnsie · · Score: 1

      No but Holland doe not live in the stone age.

    8. Re: Given the quality of apple products by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Building codes are not universal to every locality.

      Or necessarily adhered to.

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    9. Re:Given the quality of apple products by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Market share is much more important. It is the sole metric that determines the dominance of a platform. The platform with dominance will receive all of the user focus, developer focus and will survive in the long run. iOS devices won't exist in 10 more years whereas Android will thrive.

      That's laughable, especially considering that even Google is giving up on Android!

    10. Re: Given the quality of apple products by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      What about new stores in old buildings? I'd suspect that Dutch buildings are older on average, especially in city centers.

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    11. Re:Given the quality of apple products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      TFS didn't say that a puncture caused the explosion. TFS said that the iPad with the punctured battery was put in a bucket of sand AFTER it exploded. To me, this means the explosion caused the puncture, not the other way around. Having said that, since TFS did not specify, it could be either. And that is my point. IT COULD BE EITHER. Maybe a little more reading comprehension and little a less name calling.

    12. Re:Given the quality of apple products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If a battery explodes spontaneously, you call it an 'exploded' battery, not a 'punctured' battery. I think you were only seeing what you wanted to see.

    13. Re: Given the quality of apple products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think they are they taking the Samsung competition thing a little too seriously.

    14. Re:Given the quality of apple products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if you don't count the money that flows through all the levels of the Android manufacturing, distribution and aftermarket chain. When you do that, the Android economy dwarfs Apple. And you can say, the Android economy is far more beneficial to the world in general because the money gets spread around a lot more instead of being hogged by one successful (for now) monopolist. Lots of people making lots of money off Android, impossible to deny it, unless of course you happen to be an Apple apologist.

      And how many different companies that manufacturing Android device? Please don't compare apple with oranges (pun intended).

    15. Re:Given the quality of apple products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      still getting nearly all the mobile profits.

      Only if you don't count the money that flows through all the levels of the Android manufacturing, distribution and aftermarket chain. When you do that, the Android economy dwarfs Apple. And you can say, the Android economy is far more beneficial to the world in general because the money gets spread around a lot more instead of being hogged by one successful (for now) monopolist. Lots of people making lots of money off Android, impossible to deny it, unless of course you happen to be an Apple apologist.

      How do you figure? Because Google is monopolist? Still bitter that Androids marketshare is plummeting?

    16. Re: Given the quality of apple products by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      . . . When you do that, the Android economy dwarfs Apple. . . instead of being hogged by one successful (for now) monopolist.

      I do not think that word means what you think it means basing on the rest of your paragraph. In essence youâ(TM)ve debunked yourself.

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    17. Re:Given the quality of apple products by Straif · · Score: 1

      I think you were only seeing what you wanted to see.

      "Physician, heal thyself"

      Nothing in either the English linked story or the original source point to anything else besides simple battery failure.

      Fighting over the semantics of 'punctured' vs 'exploded' is meaningless. Like almost every other li-ion batter 'explosion' in this case the battery didn't actually do a Hollywood explosion and fragment into a thousand pieces. It appears to have followed the same steps of almost every other li-ion battery 'explosion' and simply burst into flames when a small puncture occurred as the internal components overheated and expanded beyond the cases ability to hold them.

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    18. Re:Given the quality of apple products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it's better to have one or two major players and a bunch of guys fighting for scraps and making me-too products in a race to the bottom with ever-smaller margins and ever-larger corners being cut.

      Also, companies with razor-thin margins are always looking to increase their margins to stay alive, and the number one way to do that with a smartphone is to install mandatory crapware, followed closely by spyware and selling your data.

      No thanks.

    19. Re:Given the quality of apple products by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      You know it's possible to survive without dominant market share, right? How the fuck has the Mac been around for 24 years? It's never had more than a 15% market share. And yet, perfectly viable platform.

      Somehow Linux survived the 10+ years when everyone was using other things too.

      It's almost like you don't know what you are talking about.

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    20. Re:Given the quality of apple products by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      MacRumors' reporting on the issue directly contradicts the claim that there was an explosion at all. Apparently it was just a leaky battery. The employees in the back noticed that an iPad with a punctured battery that was in the queue for repairs was leaking, they evacuated the store (which apparently caused a panic among the customers) and called the fire crew in as a precautionary measure, the fire crew aired the place out just to be safe, and less than an hour later things were back to business as usual.

      They're also refuting the claim that anyone received medical treatment. As best as I can figure, it sounds as if three employees had possible respiratory issues that the medical team was able to quickly rule out with a quick check, without ever having to provide any treatment.

    21. Re:Given the quality of apple products by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      More recent reporting on the issue (e.g. MacRumors' reporting) suggests there wasn't a runaway thermal event of any kind involved, just leaking battery acid from a device that had been punctured and was in for repairs. Once the employees saw the leak, they treated it as the indicator for a runaway thermal event that it could have been and evacuated the store out of an abundance of caution. It turned out that nothing was wrong in the end, but the evacuation seems to have caused a panic among the customers, as well as a lot of breathless reporting in the initial news on what happened.

  2. Good advice by viperidaenz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let the employees take the brunt of the explosion, that's what they're paid for.

    1. Re:Good advice by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 0

      Not subtle, might I say (and not funny).

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    2. Re:Good advice by viperidaenz · · Score: 2, Informative

      For some reason my quote didn't appear.

      As always, don’t attempt to replace a swollen battery. Head in to an Apple store or nearest authorized Apple service provider as soon as possible.

    3. Re: Good advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Red Shirts will handle them.

      #expendableheroes

    4. Re:Good advice by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Come on, stores need fire retardants, nor retards on fire.

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    5. Re:Good advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was thinking the same thing. I work with lithium batteries in my job. We have large buckets of water; if a battery starts to overheat, we toss it in such a bucket to prevent thermal runaway. This is just for unexpected events of that nature. If we think some test could cause this to happen, we do it in specially designed rooms (while standing outside said room).

    6. Re:Good advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that it all happened in a Apple store, I found that comment in the article rather amusing. If the staff are not able to do it in the Apple store, where on Earth are you going to take it?

    7. Re:Good advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would water also react with lithium batteries? My understanding is lithium metal reacts to water only a bit less violently than sodium metal.

  3. Devices always plugged in by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It seems that keeping the iPads/iPhones plugged into an electric outlet all the time, and running all the time, has an unexpected outcome. Moreover we're in summer...

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    1. Re:Devices always plugged in by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

      It seems that keeping the iPads/iPhones plugged into an electric outlet all the time, and running all the time, has an unexpected outcome

      Oh, you mean, like all my Android devices and all my laptops. No fires so far, what's up with Apple?

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    2. Re:Devices always plugged in by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Proceed as soon as possible in an Apple Store...

      And return your product. Then buy from a company that takes safety more seriously.

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    3. Re:Devices always plugged in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In St. Petersburg, I plugged in iMac and it turned into a thrower of flames! I got the napalms on my pants, and proved Apple doesn’t test their shoddy equipment against superior Russian electricity.

      - Penis

    4. Re:Devices always plugged in by nonicknameavailable · · Score: 1

      So now it's "You are using it in the wrong season!" ?

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    5. Re:Devices always plugged in by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Don't be a child, you're not using it.

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    6. Re:Devices always plugged in by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      It seems that keeping the iPads/iPhones plugged into an electric outlet all the time, and running all the time, has an unexpected outcome.

      That may be the case, if so someone at Apple should be fired for their shithouse battery management electronics.

      Moreover we're in summer...

      Summer ended 2 weeks ago. The Netherlands has gone back to it's usual chilly windy gloom.

    7. Re:Devices always plugged in by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      It seems that keeping the iPads/iPhones plugged into an electric outlet all the time, and running all the time, has an unexpected outcome. Moreover we're in summer...

      Funny. Apple itself uses dozens, if not hundreds, of iPads as custom machine controllers and data acquisition systems in their R&D and Testing labs. Those are plugged into power 24/7, as are iPads being used in thousands of Kiosks.

    8. Re:Devices always plugged in by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      It seems that keeping the iPads/iPhones plugged into an electric outlet all the time, and running all the time, has an unexpected outcome

      Oh, you mean, like all my Android devices and all my laptops. No fires so far, what's up with Apple?

      Lies, as usual.

      Apple has no proscription against having their devices plugged into their chargers permanently.

    9. Re:Devices always plugged in by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      It seems that keeping the iPads/iPhones plugged into an electric outlet all the time, and running all the time, has an unexpected outcome

      Oh, you mean, like all my Android devices and all my laptops. No fires so far, what's up with Apple?

      IPads do NOT overcharge when plugged in indefinitely:

      https://discussions.apple.com/...

      So, STUFF IT, Hater.

    10. Re:Devices always plugged in by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      It seems that keeping the iPads/iPhones plugged into an electric outlet all the time, and running all the time, has an unexpected outcome.

      That may be the case, if so someone at Apple should be fired for their shithouse battery management electronics.

      Moreover we're in summer...

      Summer ended 2 weeks ago. The Netherlands has gone back to it's usual chilly windy gloom.

      IPads do NOT overcharge when plugged in continuously.

      https://discussions.apple.com/...

      The battery was PUNCTURED during replacement. It's right there in TFS, idiot.

    11. Re:Devices always plugged in by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 0

      Proceed as soon as possible in an Apple Store...

      And return your product. Then buy from a company that takes safety more seriously.

      You need to be sued for slander. Maybe that would shut your idiotic ass up.

    12. Re:Devices always plugged in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exploding ipads contradict your lies
      Maybe apple cheaped out on the ipad batteries like they did with the iphone batteries .
      Look forward to new throttling code in the ipad that apple will deny ; then confirm once its proven that they lied.

    13. Re:Devices always plugged in by thegarbz · · Score: 0

      The battery was PUNCTURED during replacement. It's right there in TFS, idiot.

      Fuck I enjoy triggering you FakeTimCook. You are sooooo easy. :-)

    14. Re: Devices always plugged in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What exploding iPads? There is only one and it had a punctured battery.

    15. Re:Devices always plugged in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems that keeping the iPads/iPhones plugged into an electric outlet all the time, and running all the time, has an unexpected outcome

      Oh, you mean, like all my Android devices and all my laptops. No fires so far, what's up with Apple?

      You asking just proves you are as dumb as the OP. But that's hardly new.

    16. Re:Devices always plugged in by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      It seems that keeping the iPads/iPhones plugged into an electric outlet all the time, and running all the time, has an unexpected outcome. Moreover we're in summer...

      What do the always-plugged-in devices in the consumer area have to do with those brought in for repairs?

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    17. Re:Devices always plugged in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats a lot of buckets of sand required.

    18. Re:Devices always plugged in by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Are you daft?

      There are literally millions of lithium-ion battery devices plugged into an electric outlet all the time, and running all the time, Apple-made or otherwise. If the charging circuit isn't a massive piece of shit, it won't be charging the battery once full. Literally every single phone, tablet, and laptop does this, and has done this forever.

      And what does summer have to do with it? Do you really think that Apple stores don't have any kind of HVAC system? Really?

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    19. Re:Devices always plugged in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, they still do that during summer? That's clearly dangerous, according to the colossal idiot that posted above!

    20. Re:Devices always plugged in by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      They are strongly correlated to starting fires, when you're an idiot that can't be bothered to think for half a second before blurting out the first thing that comes to mind, no matter how illogical, incorrect, and ill-assumed; and then mashing the submit button.

      Myself, I find that people blaming their ignorance of 30+ year old battery charging techniques that have been in use on literally every lithium battery ever in combination with "summer" as the cause of a catastrophic failure of that battery strongly correlate with shitposting and general stupidity on the Internet. I won't pretend to make a causal link though, because I just don't have the time to compile the statistics.

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    21. Re:Devices always plugged in by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Thats a lot of buckets of sand required.

      For you to burry your head in.

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  4. I was there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lots of people died.

  5. Karma by Tough+Love · · Score: 1, Troll

    Karma. Remember all the Apple fanboys gloating about Note 7 battery issues? Cue payback. I am not a Samsung fanboy by any means, but that performance by Apple folks was just plain galling. Samsung responded to the issue quickly and fairly, let's see what Apple does. (I'm not expecting much.)

    Oh, and there were persistent reports of Apple products catching fire, even electrocuting people throughout that same period. Apple just makes me ill.

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    1. Re:Karma by Tough+Love · · Score: 0

      Karma. Remember all the Apple fanboys gloating about Note 7 battery issues? Cue payback. I am not a Samsung fanboy by any means, but that performance by Apple folks was just plain galling. Samsung responded to the issue quickly and fairly, let's see what Apple does. (I'm not expecting much.)

      Oh, and there were persistent reports of Apple products catching fire, even electrocuting people throughout that same period. Apple just makes me ill.

      Wow, Apple employees with mod points are swarming that one. How to earn karma.

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    2. Re:Karma by Tough+Love · · Score: 0

      Karma. Remember all the Apple fanboys gloating about Note 7 battery issues? Cue payback. I am not a Samsung fanboy by any means, but that performance by Apple folks was just plain galling. Samsung responded to the issue quickly and fairly, let's see what Apple does. (I'm not expecting much.)

      Oh, and there were persistent reports of Apple products catching fire, even electrocuting people throughout that same period. Apple just makes me ill.

      Wow, Apple employees with mod points are swarming that one. How to earn karma.

      Apple employees at work again, how are they different from scientologists?

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    3. Re:Karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We all know exactly what apple will do. Blame everyone else except themselves and their product. And the mindless apple police will be on here and other sites telling us how great apple is for doing so.

    4. Re:Karma by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      We all know exactly what apple will do. Blame everyone else except themselves and their product. And the mindless apple police will be on here and other sites telling us how great apple is for doing so.

      And they will send out their astroturf squad just like Scientologists to mod down criticism on social networking sites. Why we hate Apple.

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    5. Re:Karma by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      Apple employees at work again, how are they different from scientologists?

      Scientologists will openly acknowledge they are part of a religion.

    6. Re:Karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And apple zealots will deny it.

    7. Re:Karma by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Karma. Remember all the Apple fanboys gloating about Note 7 battery issues? Cue payback. I am not a Samsung fanboy by any means, but that performance by Apple folks was just plain galling. Samsung responded to the issue quickly and fairly, let's see what Apple does. (I'm not expecting much.)

      Oh, and there were persistent reports of Apple products catching fire, even electrocuting people throughout that same period. Apple just makes me ill.

      Wow, Apple employees with mod points are swarming that one. How to earn karma.

      Apple employees at work again, how are they different from scientologists?

      Apple employees: if you can't stand critical comments then fix your products. If you don't like being regarded as Scientologists then quit astroturfing social networking sites.

      Right now you have some damage control to do, but instead of doing it, you are just creating more damage. This is your one button mind at work, right?

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    8. Re:Karma by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 0

      I am not a Samsung fanboy

      No. You're an Apple hateboy, no much better.

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    9. Re:Karma by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 2

      Karma. Remember all the Apple fanboys gloating about Note 7 battery issues? Cue payback. I am not a Samsung fanboy by any means, but that performance by Apple folks was just plain galling. Samsung responded to the issue quickly and fairly, let's see what Apple does. (I'm not expecting much.)

      Oh, and there were persistent reports of Apple products catching fire, even electrocuting people throughout that same period. Apple just makes me ill.

      You're a fucking LIAR.

      This was a PUNCTURED battery. It's right there in TFS.

      Haters make me sick.

    10. Re:Karma by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      This was a PUNCTURED battery. It's right there in TFS.

      How did the battery become punctured?

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    11. Re: Karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The article makes no claim of a puncture prior to the explosion. But batteries do puncture as they explode.

    12. Re:Karma by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      This was a PUNCTURED battery. It's right there in TFS.

      How did the battery become punctured?

      It was in the process of being replaced, and someone punctured it.

    13. Re:Karma by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      How did the battery become punctured?

      It was in the process of being replaced, and someone punctured it.

      It seems like a shame that it's so difficult to replace the battery that even the iDroids can't manage it safely. If only the phone were designed with a user-replaceable battery, then even an Apple user could have done it without a store visit.

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    14. Re:Karma by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Wow, Tough Love admits he's stupid as shit. Well, not really. He denies it, but he proves he is.

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    15. Re:Karma by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Mind telling us who pays you?

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    16. Re:Karma by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Scientologists will openly acknowledge they are part of a religion.

      While you guys wont. Got it.

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    17. Re:Karma by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Karma. Remember all the Apple fanboys gloating about Note 7 battery issues?

      Well, we all remember Tough Love claiming there was no problem with the Note 7 battery even after dozens of the Samsung we-fixed-the-problem-replacements blew up. And now he feels there is a problem with all batteries in all Apple products, because 3 out of many-hundred-times-as-many-as-Note-7s-ever-shipped Apple batteries blew up after being punctured. Who did you say pays you to post here?

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    18. Re:Karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahaha I see you struck a nerve!

    19. Re:Karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One iPad battery blows, a year after model introduction, and all of a sudden every device is defective and everyone's trying to cover it all up, and Apple has anything to respond to at all?

      Biased much?

      If you did s/Apple/LG/g on the article, would you feel as strongly? I'd bet not, which means you're just another fucking hater; hater gonna hate.

    20. Re:Karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's far more reasons than "employed by Apple" to downmod your posts. Such as "jumping to conclusions", "correlating two completely separate things without any justification or evidence" and "general stupidity".

      I'd put money on the odds that there wasn't a single Apple employee that modded you down.

    21. Re:Karma by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      In all honesty, it wouldn't even have to be a "user replaceable" battery - just one that isn't fucking glued into the phone where you have to go through a bunch of ridiculous shit to get it out when being serviced by a "qualified" technician, whatever that qualification process happens to be.

      Gluing the LiPol pack in is just idiotic and asking for problems.

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    22. Re: Karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How? With what fucking tool? I was replacing the battery in an Android phone and the adhesive pull away tape ripped, so I had to pry the fucker up. The thing was seriously curved and took a lot of force. I never stabbed it. I'm seriously curious how the fucker got punctured and using what tools.

      In other words, very fucking sketchy explanation. Gotta be some incompetence somewhere here.

    23. Re:Karma by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      Us guys? What the heck? Is this an us/them situation? Anybody who isn't an Apple sycophant is one of 'those guys'??

    24. Re:Karma by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      No, no. I was only talking about stupid people.

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  6. Karma Right there by Thundercat007 · · Score: 0

    Remember Apple fanboys laughing at the Samsung exploding battery fiasco. Poor Apple Fanboys.

    1. Re:Karma Right there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So Samesungs shit phones explode because of design flaws. This iPad exploded because it was damaged. World of difference that’s lost on a retard like you.

    2. Re:Karma Right there by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Remember Apple fanboys laughing at the Samsung exploding battery fiasco. Poor Apple Fanboys.

      I do, and I remember Apple thugs downmodding my critical comment just like yours. Why we hate Apple, right?

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    3. Re:Karma Right there by Tough+Love · · Score: 1, Funny

      There ya go, that's the Apple spirit we have come to know, now go straight up to Tim Cook's office so he can stick a gold star on your forehead.

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    4. Re:Karma Right there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This iPad exploded because it was damaged.

      Nah, they just shouldn't have been holding it like that.

    5. Re:Karma Right there by Pieroxy · · Score: 1

      Remember Apple fanboys laughing at the Samsung exploding battery fiasco. Poor Apple Fanboys.

      One damaged iPad explosion in a shop vs hundreds of new phones catching fire in consumer's hands.

      I guess Apple fanboys are still laughing.

    6. Re:Karma Right there by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 2

      Remember Apple fanboys laughing at the Samsung exploding battery fiasco. Poor Apple Fanboys.

      Go jam a screwdriver into ANY LiOn/LiPo battery and see what happens...

    7. Re:Karma Right there by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      There ya go, that's the Apple spirit we have come to know, now go straight up to Tim Cook's office so he can stick a gold star on your forehead.

      You realize that you are doing nothing but proving yourself an utter moron.

      From TFS:

      "The iPad and it's punctured battery..."

    8. Re:Karma Right there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you also notice that this would be the third this year that has been reported in a store?

    9. Re:Karma Right there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually he meant, Tim Cook will stick a gold star on your dick.

    10. Re:Karma Right there by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      So it's happened three times (according to you, citation needed, but for the sake of argument I'll accept that) out of hundreds of stores, with hundreds of millions of devices shipped. And the iPad hasn't had a new release in over a year, which means that there's millions that have been working for a year with no problems whatsoever.

      But that's all the data we have, which means no reasonable conclusions can be made. For example: in the three stores this happened in, were the idiotic glued-in batteries in the process of being removed by a service technician? Could it possibly be that using tools to try to pry a glued in soft-sided lithium cell out of a device might compromise the battery cell, causing a fire? Or that using a heat gun on a lithium battery isn't exactly the best thing to do if that battery could already be damaged and susceptible to thermal runaway?

      Is Apple stupid for gluing together components that are guaranteed to need replacing at some point? You bet, and that's completely fair criticism. Gluing in the battery is just about the dumbest way they could mount it in the phone, and guarantees servicing the battery will be a huge pain in the ass, which could have been thought of a design feature inside Apple because they aren't exactly known for ease of repair and never have been outside of a few years of Power Mac G4, Power Mac G5, and Mac Pro pre-trashcan.

      Is it likely that the repair procedure involves either a heat gun to soften the glue, or some kind of metal tool to pry against the adhesion? Almost assuredly - using solvents would be far more risky, and require MSDS sheet postings, etc.

      Is there a defect in the product causing spontaneous fires? Not anywhere close enough information to conclude that, so stop trying to do so.

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    11. Re:Karma Right there by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Did you also notice that this would be the third this year that has been reported in a store?

      That would mean that between each incident more time passed than it took Samsung to remove the Note 7 from the market.

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  7. Used to be a huge fan.. the quality control tanked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a mobile developer I've had an iPhone for years but ever since Steve Jobs died it's gone downhill. So many basic things are bugged or broken with noone accepting responsibility. Their messenger keyboards bug out all the time so you can't see what you're typing. iOS has an insane amount of problems especially with browsers operating on it (lets talk modal windows with forms).

    Every single person I know who worked at Apple has left due to the work environment and lack of accountability. That's saying something since many of them were super fans. I could go on but this is exactly what happened to Microsoft.

  8. BAN THEM ON ALL AIRCRAFT!!1 by dohzer · · Score: 0

    Ban them on aircraft! Quick. Launch a world wide plane ban and recall.

    1. Re:BAN THEM ON ALL AIRCRAFT!!1 by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      But they're Apple, they're amazing.
      Samsung were evil when the same thing happened to one of their products.

    2. Re:BAN THEM ON ALL AIRCRAFT!!1 by PPH · · Score: 2

      There go all the electronic flight bags.

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    3. Re:BAN THEM ON ALL AIRCRAFT!!1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amazing = American Company. Evil = Not American Company.

    4. Re:BAN THEM ON ALL AIRCRAFT!!1 by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Aren't they mostly banned anyway? I see signs at airports saying you must remove the batteries from "smart" suitcases, no batteries over a certain size etc.

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    5. Re:BAN THEM ON ALL AIRCRAFT!!1 by PPH · · Score: 1

      Electronic flight bags are what flight crews use to replace carrying all the required maps and manuals. Often implemented on iPads and similar tablets.

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    6. Re:BAN THEM ON ALL AIRCRAFT!!1 by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Ah, I learned something. Thanks.

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  9. Bucket of sand by Tough+Love · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Apple employees secured the iPad and punctured battery in a container of sand after it exploded.

    So, a quick thinking genius ran down to the canal and quickly scooped up a bucket of sand? No, this is the standard bucket of sand you always keep on hand because you are surround by Apple products.

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    1. Re:Bucket of sand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They had to use a bucket of sand because they didn't have a jar of dirt.

    2. Re:Bucket of sand by PPH · · Score: 1

      Clearing bucket.

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    3. Re:Bucket of sand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scoop up a bucket of sand from the canal? There is just muck there, if you can ever reach that deep, past the house boats and broken bicycles.

    4. Re:Bucket of sand by Tough+Love · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Apple employees secured the iPad and punctured battery in a container of sand after it exploded.

      So, a quick thinking genius ran down to the canal and quickly scooped up a bucket of sand? No, this is the standard bucket of sand you always keep on hand because you are surround by Apple products.

      Wow, this is really organized. Apple employees going sent out to all the social networking sites to spin and downmod. Hey guys, fix your products instead. Do you think that nobody notices you doing this?

      More Apple Scientology downmod tactics. What a disgusting company. Fix your products. There are so many reports of Apple products exploding.
      Here is another one.

      Snip: "I am a very loyal Apple customer with an outrageous number of products so this news is devastating. I can’t afford to repair it and my work depends on me using my laptop so I am not sure what to do at the moment. There must be other people out there that have experienced their Apple products battery swelling/expanding/exploding."

      It would not be surprising at all if this post disappears from Apple's site shortly.

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    5. Re:Bucket of sand by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      There is just muck there

      Right, iMuck.

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    6. Re:Bucket of sand by mentil · · Score: 1

      You misunderstand. Misbehaving silicon is warned to mend its ways or else it'll be joining the other grains. It's rehabilitation sand.

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    7. Re:Bucket of sand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the most useless set of comments for an article ever. The reason this made news is because it's so uncommon. It's far more dangerous to have a toaster in your house. Or a plastic bag.

      Hey guys, a kid suffocated on a plastic bag last year, can we ban those yet? No? Ok how about "for the environment"?

    8. Re:Bucket of sand by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      The reason this made news is because it's so uncommon.

      Read the comments, including the comments on the linked article. It's not uncommon. If these were cars blowing up then there would be $billions of product liability suits. When this happened to Samsung they fixed it. But this is Apple.

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    9. Re:Bucket of sand by dohzer · · Score: 1

      The iBucket full of Apple Sand, coming to a store near you.

    10. Re:Bucket of sand by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      The reason this made news is because it's so uncommon.

      Read the comments, including the comments on the linked article. It's not uncommon. If these were cars blowing up then there would be $billions of product liability suits. When this happened to Samsung they fixed it. But this is Apple.

      You claim Apple supporters are Astrotufing; but you DO realize, of course, that about a THIRD of the posts in this "discussion" and from you bashing Apple, right?

      And that, DESPITE the fact that TFS specifically mentioned that the battery was PUNCTURED.

      You need help. Or maybe just to GTFO.

    11. Re:Bucket of sand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, a quick thinking genius ran down to the canal and quickly scooped up a bucket of sand?

      Article doesn't imply this, *you* brought it up. Why be phony?

    12. Re:Bucket of sand by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      DESPITE the fact that TFS specifically mentioned that the battery was PUNCTURED

      Punctured by the explosion you lying Apple sack of shit. Said it before, you are a great ambassador for thug gang Apple.

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    13. Re:Bucket of sand by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      You're a god damn idiot.

      Don't you think that a service bench that deals with lithium batteries all day long, every day, might just have a fire bucket suitable for containing a lithium fire around?

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    14. Re:Bucket of sand by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Because at best this guy is a hater that is trolling.

      More likely, paid shill spewing FUD.

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    15. Re:Bucket of sand by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      DESPITE the fact that TFS specifically mentioned that the battery was PUNCTURED

      Punctured by the explosion you lying Apple sack of shit. Said it before, you are a great ambassador for thug gang Apple.

      I can't find any news report that confirms your story.

    16. Re:Bucket of sand by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      There is just muck there

      Right, iMuck.

      No, your "brain".

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  10. trouble breathing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    batteries got some toxic shit in them. I'm sure the honest trillion dollar tax paying corporation will do the right thing and pay for their cancer treatments in 20 years.

    1. Re:trouble breathing by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      You're breathing it wrong.

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    2. Re:trouble breathing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The breathing problems were caused by everyone shatting themselves. It got ugly in there.

  11. Re: Karma iBooom :))))) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Brand New Apple iBomb

  12. Ban iPads from all airplanes!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Notes 7 and all iPads are aviation hazards...

  13. Makes sense to me by SuperKendall · · Score: 1, Troll

    Everyone else in Amsterdam is lighting up, why can't the iPads get a turn.

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    1. Re: Makes sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Troll? This is funny. Only fault was his lack of question mark, but that doesn't make him a troll.

      Moderation on this site is fucked up.

  14. Persistent issue by Tough+Love · · Score: 0

    Wow, there are so many reports of Apple products exploding, how about this one. If Apple was an auto company there would be multiple class action suits already. Why do they get a pass?

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    1. Re:Persistent issue by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Wow, there are so many reports of Apple products exploding, how about this one. If Apple was an auto company there would be multiple class action suits already. Why do they get a pass?

      Message to Apple employees: Do you understand that these posts you downmod remain on the internet to document your disgusting corporate culture? Fix your products.

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    2. Re:Persistent issue by Bodhammer · · Score: 2
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    3. Re:Persistent issue by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      It's a numbers game. A quick search shows they've sold over one *billion* iPhones since their inception. How many have caught fire over the years? Ten, twenty? Your troll game is weak.

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    4. Re:Persistent issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're really angry over Apple products. Are you some kind of closet faggot? Look its 2018 now and you can be whatever or whoever you want.

    5. Re:Persistent issue by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      How many have caught fire over the years? Ten, twenty?

      I know, with plenty of customers you can afford to ignite a few right? What do you imagine would happen if this many Jeeps exploded? Exploding iPhone causes third degree burns on teen's body

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  15. What's up by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Still way ahead of Samsung on the "exploding in inconvenient places" index...

    My IOS and Mac devices stay plugged in all the time without issue either... which is worth as much as your anecdote, probably more as being a mobile developer I have several iPads and iPhones some of which are plugged in all the time.

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    1. Re:What's up by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

      And you overlooked the idiotic comment blaming the iPad explosion on leaving it plugged in.

      While you may be lucky enough to not have your Apple products explode yet, others are not so lucky. Excuse me, but it doesn't take much googling to get the picture that Apple ships more explosive products than Samsung. Samsung took the issue seriously and fixed it. Not this endless denial and whataboutism that we have learned to expect from Apple.

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    2. Re:What's up by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      And you overlooked the idiotic comment blaming the iPad explosion on leaving it plugged in

      And you overlooked the "in summer" from the "idiotic comment". Europe is not used to the heat that has been happening recently, and this incident happening in august is certainly not a coincidence.

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    3. Re:What's up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      slashdot's resident apple shill jumping to the defense of his beloved brand...honestly you'd have to be a monumental retard to dismiss this by "well it hasn't happened to me". even if it did happen to you you apple (and samsung) fanboys are so unthinkingly loyal you'd rather lose a limb than admit your company of choice had any kind of problem.

    4. Re:What's up by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      And you overlooked the "in summer" from the "idiotic comment".

      I will grant you that: don't buy an Apple product if you plan to use it in summer. But are you certain the other months are safe?

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    5. Re:What's up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, you’re feeding the troll and his sock puppet.

    6. Re: What's up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny how you pull numbers out your ass just to defend Apple.

    7. Re:What's up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, that's what shills are paid to do.

    8. Re:What's up by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

      Thermal management should prevent that from happening. Maybe it was holding the battery wrong?

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    9. Re: What's up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then why haven't well all exploded in Australia?

    10. Re:What's up by johnsie · · Score: 1

      He's not paid, he's just special

    11. Re: What's up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somalia you mean?

    12. Re:What's up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's been cold (~20 deg C) in Amsterdam for the past week.

    13. Re:What's up by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Still way ahead of Samsung on the "exploding in inconvenient places" index...

      Presumably, this happened while replacing the battery. Other than during replacement, there should be no real danger of the packs getting punctured.

      That said, this is why we keep complaining about Apple gluing in their LiPo packs. There's no reason for such a tiny pack to be glued in at all, much less glued so strongly that it makes the packs hard to remove. It is a serious safety issue while servicing the devices, because it greatly increases the risk of puncturing the packs, which tends to result in the release of hydrogen gas, which can self-ignite instantly upon contact with oxygen.

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    14. Re: What's up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Samsung did not take it seriously. They seriously tried to suppress news of explosions including paying shitty compensation with a clause to keep quiet.

      But the problem was so bad it simply wasn't suppressible. Even then Samsung claim that these are isolated incidents which can happen to any model from any company. It was until news kept surfacing and it became clear it was systematic problems that Samsung then recalled. If they didn't they would have been subject to worse legal and regulatory action.... they really didn't have a choice.

      Samsung Chairman and CEO was jailed for corruption.....completely separate issue but showed what kind of company they are.

      People just support Samsung because they are not Apple without any fucking reason other than thinking it's the "underdog that's winning".... without realising it really isn't and is in fact more corrupt than Apple and Microsoft..... at least Jobs, Cook and Bill ... even Balmeg haven't been hauled off to jail yet.

    15. Re: What's up by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Funny how you pull numbers out your ass just to defend Apple.

      Funny how you can't be bothered to do 5 seconds of Googling:

      https://discussions.apple.com/...

    16. Re:What's up by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      slashdot's resident apple shill jumping to the defense of his beloved brand...honestly you'd have to be a monumental retard to dismiss this by "well it hasn't happened to me". even if it did happen to you you apple (and samsung) fanboys are so unthinkingly loyal you'd rather lose a limb than admit your company of choice had any kind of problem.

      Honestly, you'd have to be a monumental retard to miss the fact in TFS that this was from a PUNCTURED battery.

      But you apparently did.

    17. Re:What's up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would expect* the store to be air conditioned. So the fact that it was warmer than usual outside should have no impact on anything.

      * Really, the chances that this store is not air conditioned are pretty much zero.

    18. Re: What's up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you dont realize is the charger doesn't charge the battery, the device does. The charger is simply a source that of power. If it puts out too low of a voltage, the device shuts off. If it puts out too high of a voltage, the device shuts off. There isn't anything left for a cheap charger to screw up, other than elecrocuting the owner or burning his house down.

    19. Re: What's up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course and only 9 iphones ever got bent.
      And a small percent of apple laptops have crappy keyboards.
      Do you fucking apple apologist think we are as stupid as apple know you are?

    20. Re:What's up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly this.

      These guys are so brainwash by apple its disgusting.
      So many weak minded people.
      apple continually lies and cheats them and they come running back for more

    21. Re:What's up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you overlooked the idiotic comment blaming the iPad explosion on leaving it plugged in.

      Tha's funny coming from the guy who just acted as if that was actually the case and of course another problem for Apple. What's with the need to make yourself look dumb?

    22. Re:What's up by Straif · · Score: 1

      The puncture was caused by the battery explosion itself. Batteries don't tend to fragment much when they fail just simply blow out at a single point. Just like when my tire 'exploded' due to faulty construction, even the guy at the garage described the point of weakness where it popped as a puncture.

      Both linked articles as well as every other article mentioning this case all describe it as a spontaneous explosion with no outside influences mentioned. The fire departments statement to the reporters blamed the issue directly on the battery.

      You'd think if someone was running around the store with a knife or screwdriver stabbing iPhones that would have warranted at least one mention in the dozens of write ups about this incident.

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    23. Re:What's up by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's the very god damn definition of coincidence.

      Correlation is not causality, no matter how much you'd like it to be.

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    24. Re:What's up by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Speaking of jumping to conclusions, one iPad blows up in the world, and it's not exactly a new model (released in June 2017), and all of a sudden the whole god damn line is defective? After over a year, and millions sold? You're just as dumb as some Apple apologist with that kind of thinking.

      Samsung recalled the Note 7 after there were several incidents within a few weeks of launch (and trying to cover those up with NDA riders on settlement payouts, btw).

      Why haven't more of them conflagrated by now if there "is a problem?" Could it be that this particular one had a rare manufacturing defect that was not caught by quality control which can happen to any lithium battery from any manufacturer in any device, or had been damaged through the course of being a display unit in a store that has probably had thousands of people pawing at it over the course of it's lifetime?

      I can come up with many reasons that a single unit could fail without even getting close to OMG DEFECTIVE DESIGN APPLE SUCKS FANBOYS JUMPING TO DEFENSE BLAH BLAH BLAH.

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  16. Secured in a container of sand by mykro76 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm a little worried that an emergency container of sand appears to be standard equipment in an Apple store.

    1. Re: Secured in a container of sand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Uh... that should be standard equipment these days for any electronics store or place people congregate - ALL phones, etc are subject to this. Apple, Samsung, LG, whoever. Damage a lipo and they catch fire...

    2. Re:Secured in a container of sand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a little worried that an emergency container of sand appears to be standard equipment in an Apple store.

      Those containers are referred to as "ash trays". Old-fart dyed-in-the-wool Mac users extinguish their cigarette butts in them.

    3. Re:Secured in a container of sand by johnsie · · Score: 1

      Ash trays are outside in Europe.

    4. Re: Secured in a container of sand by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Uh... that should be standard equipment these days for any electronics store or place people congregate - ALL phones, etc are subject to this. Apple, Samsung, LG, whoever. Damage a lipo and they catch fire...

      FINALLY, a voice of reason!!!

    5. Re:Secured in a container of sand by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they have them on aircraft now. I bet there is a fire-proof bag on long haul flights, especially now that charging and power outlets are quite common.

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    6. Re:Secured in a container of sand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gee, they removed them entirely in the States. Leaving an ashtray outside, or in a store (on the shelf to be sold), would be too much like encouraging smoking.

    7. Re:Secured in a container of sand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An Apple store also replaces batteries. Those have a, inherently, much higher risk. Every place that handles old batteries needs a container like this. It should be mandatory, if it isn't already.

      And when you know a store needs a sand container, just imagine what is needed for bulk storage.

    8. Re:Secured in a container of sand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cat was looking for its favorite spot. Once the cat had located it, she wondered what was stuck in the middle of the litterbox.

  17. Third time... by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    9to5Mac notes that this is the third evacuation this year of an Apple store due to an exploding battery -- the other two were from iPhones.

    I didn't hear about the first two. Sounds like Apple fans need to rethink their tired Samsung Note 7 jokes.

    1. Re:Third time... by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

      9to5Mac notes that this is the third evacuation this year of an Apple store due to an exploding battery -- the other two were from iPhones.

      I didn't hear about the first two. Sounds like Apple fans need to rethink their tired Samsung Note 7 jokes.

      And given that iPhones in people's homes vastly outnumber iPhones in stores, how big is this problem, really?

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    2. Re:Third time... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Anyone has some statistics number of Apple explosions / Samsung explosions? Planes crash, but comparing Cessna and Boeing ...

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    3. Re:Third time... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      In the store the phone is active all the time, displaying those cheesy screensavers with the screen on max brightness. Heat generation for prolonged periods of time, 7 days a week will likely have a very negative effect on the battery.

      They probably don't care about dead batteries in display models of course.

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    4. Re:Third time... by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Sounds to me like Apple needs to rethink gluing the battery into the device, causing three of their technicians to puncture the cell while trying to service it.

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    5. Re:Third time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the statistical logic in your own statement would show that it's a vanishingly small "problem", or rather, not a problem at all. And the number of posts you've made in this thread show you to be either a competitor shill, paid astroturfer, or some other undesireable.

      Is this where you call me an "Apple Employee" and spew some nonsense garbage about how you are so downtrodden and there's a massive coverup of this not-a-problem?

      Mountain out of a mole-hill, bro. Give it up already. You're showing yourself to be a supermassive dumbass.

    6. Re:Third time... by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      How does it feel to only be second dumbest poster in this thread? Tough Love clearly has you beat this time.

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  18. Confirned: local Apple shop has its bucket of sand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems to be a necessary standard Apple accessory now. But you have to hold it right.

  19. Devices always plugged in by BlogAffix · · Score: 1

    As always, do not try to replace swelling batteries. Proceed as soon as possible in an Apple Store or a nearby official Apple Service Provider. how to check jio balance

  20. Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A long time ago I used to do iOS development and had a small desk full of testing devices. Most of these didn't do anything at all- they just sat there charging all day long until I needed one for debugging purposes.

    In total, I had 4x iPhone 4S units, 4x iPad 2 units, and a few other newer devices over the years (one 5C, 5S, SE, iPhone 6 and 6S).

    After about 2-3 years of sitting on the dock, the 4S and iPad 2 units started splitting open when the batteries swelled up. After about 1-2 years, the newer units went as well. Each and every single time I contacted Apple about these issues, they sounded like they were going to launch an immediate investigation until we got to the part where they were sitting on the dock for >= 1 year. Each and every single time, they dismissed this issue as being "my fault"- that somehow their devices weren't designed to sit on a charger and not be used. Each and every single time, the case was closed without any sort of resolution, other than that I should either take the devices into an Apple Store (we have none on the island I live on) or dispose of them by taking them down to the nearest fire station.

    FWIW, the devices that I did use are still working just fine even to today. I've got exactly one iPhone 4S and iPad 2 that survived, plus the iPhone SE. Those three devices saw daily use and were always drained down below 80%, then returned to the charger for the night.

    It seems like there's some sort of design flaw with their charge controller and/or batteries that don't anticipate a device not being used. After a while, the batteries get overcharged and swell up. I have no doubt that if I'd left those devices on the charger any longer than I did, they would have likely burst and burned down my house (which I pointed out to Apple, but again the response was more or less "you're using them wrong").

    TLDR; use your Apple devices or they will explode and Apple will blame you for not actually using them.

    1. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Shikaku · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is technically your fault but the knowledge of how to keep a battery stored really matters and isn't very common knowledge. Any device with a lithium-ion battery of any kind should not be left on the charger for extended periods, like days or more. If you plan on not using the device, unplug and turn it off. The protection chip on the battery will prevent overcharging but it's a precarious situation that might cause overheating, swelling and explosions potentially the longer it's left charging. Citation and more details: https://batteryuniversity.com/...

    2. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Tough+Love · · Score: 0

      This is technically your fault

      What utter bullshit. It is the fault of Apple's engineering, that can't safely trickle charge a li-ion battery. I have lots of devices permanently sitting on chargers, everybody does. But don't do that with Apple products unless your fire insurance is all paid up. According to you.

      but the knowledge of how to keep a battery stored really matters and isn't very common knowledge. Any device with a lithium-ion battery of any kind should not be left on the charger for extended periods, like days or more. If you plan on not using the device, unplug and turn it off. The protection chip on the battery will prevent overcharging but it's a precarious situation that might cause overheating, swelling and explosions potentially the longer it's left charging.

      That is true if you buy from Apple, apparently.

      Citation and more details: https://batteryuniversity.com/...

      Your link doesn't say anything like you just claimed. Are you an Apple employee?

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    3. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Shikaku · · Score: 1

      Right here:

      Li-ion cannot absorb overcharge. When fully charged, the charge current must be cut off. A continuous trickle charge would cause plating of metallic lithium and compromise safety. To minimize stress, keep the lithium-ion battery at the peak cut-off as short as possible.

      And no I hate Apple as much as the next guy but battery safety, especially when technology that's known to swell/explode/flame when mishandled is more important than a grudge. Please keep blame where it needs to reside.

    4. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

      Most LiPo charger ICs can be set up to turn OFF once you reach full charge, and turn ON again when you drop below a set level. It your charger IC is set to always trickle charge - you're doing it wrong.

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    5. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Tough+Love · · Score: 4, Informative

      Li-ion cannot absorb overcharge. When fully charged, the charge current must be cut off...

      Right, and that is the responsibility of the charging logic, not the user. Notice that the article did not say "must be cut off by the user".

      And no I hate Apple as much as the next guy but battery safety, especially when technology that's known to swell/explode/flame when mishandled is more important than a grudge. Please keep blame where it needs to reside.

      Yes, lets. I there are issues with charge cut-off then the blame belongs with the charging logic. It's not like this is a $5 charger from Radio Shack, it has its own full blown computer. It's supposed to know how to do this right. Everybody knows that li-ion batteries can be dangerous. Gasoline is far more dangerous. How often does somebody blow themselves up pumping gas these days?

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    6. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      When fully charged, the charge current must be cut off.

      Which is handled by the charge controller on most devices with lithium battery chemistries...

      Please keep blame where it needs to reside.

      You mean with the company that used a charge controller that fails to cut off charging current properly when the battery is full? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's where the blame was placed to begin with.

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    7. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by hackertourist · · Score: 5, Informative

      Apple knows this and has built its charging circuits with this in mind. When you plug in a Mac or iOS device, it will charge until full, then charging stops. Then, as long as the device is plugged in, it runs on mains power. When the battery self-discharges to 95% (after a few days), charging starts again. This means the device can be left plugged in indefinitely.

      This has been common knowledge among device makers for a decade or more. Every laptop uses a variation on this scheme (and has to, because lots of laptops live their life being plugged in 95% of the time).

    8. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by johannesg · · Score: 1

      Does this also apply to laptops? Mine (and all the others in the office) is in the dock constantly, so can I look forward to it exploding in the future?

    9. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      That's a great first principles example, but phones don't have "protection chips" as much as they have very sophisticated battery management algorithms that among other things are perfectly capable of not putting charge into the battery when not needed.

    10. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by houghi · · Score: 1

      Sounds like an issue with the charger if it still charges the battery, not so much the battery itself. There are plenty of batteries that are connected to a charger 24/7, yet they do not explode.
      And by that I mean the charger was designed to do that, not that it are phones.

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    11. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      This is technically your fault but the knowledge of how to keep a battery stored really matters and isn't very common knowledge. Any device with a lithium-ion battery of any kind should not be left on the charger for extended periods, like days or more. If you plan on not using the device, unplug and turn it off. The protection chip on the battery will prevent overcharging but it's a precarious situation that might cause overheating, swelling and explosions potentially the longer it's left charging. Citation and more details: https://batteryuniversity.com/...

      Apple claims iPads don't overcharge, period. I think the GP is lying.

      https://discussions.apple.com/...

    12. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      This is technically your fault

      What utter bullshit. It is the fault of Apple's engineering, that can't safely trickle charge a li-ion battery. I have lots of devices permanently sitting on chargers, everybody does. But don't do that with Apple products unless your fire insurance is all paid up. According to you.

      but the knowledge of how to keep a battery stored really matters and isn't very common knowledge. Any device with a lithium-ion battery of any kind should not be left on the charger for extended periods, like days or more. If you plan on not using the device, unplug and turn it off. The protection chip on the battery will prevent overcharging but it's a precarious situation that might cause overheating, swelling and explosions potentially the longer it's left charging.

      That is true if you buy from Apple, apparently.

      Citation and more details: https://batteryuniversity.com/...

      Your link doesn't say anything like you just claimed. Are you an Apple employee?

      Bullshit:

      https://discussions.apple.com/...

    13. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Most LiPo charger ICs can be set up to turn OFF once you reach full charge, and turn ON again when you drop below a set level. It your charger IC is set to always trickle charge - you're doing it wrong.

      And Apple's charging circuits do exactly what you suggest:

      https://discussions.apple.com/...

    14. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      When fully charged, the charge current must be cut off.

      Which is handled by the charge controller on most devices with lithium battery chemistries...

      Please keep blame where it needs to reside.

      You mean with the company that used a charge controller that fails to cut off charging current properly when the battery is full? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's where the blame was placed to begin with.

      IPads Don't overcharge, period:

      https://discussions.apple.com/...

    15. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by mrfaithful · · Score: 1

      But isn't the problem that while we assign nice comfortable numbers like 100% and 95% to things, batteries don't work that way. The charger firmware detects certain characteristics of the cell voltage and determines the mAh remaining based on an ongoing calibrated voltage drop curve. And I'm sure they give themselves plenty of headroom to play with so that it can "overcharge" a little bit safely when the battery is losing capacity but the firmware hasn't got a good enough reading to tell. But if you never run the battery down this curve gets further and further away from reality.

      It stands to reason that eventually the charger starts to overcharge the cells without knowing that there's vastly reduced headroom.

      Plus there's all sorts of problems with the way the cells are connected. Some will fail ahead of others, but the loss of performance from them is masked by the others and the charger merrily pumps current through the bad cells on the way to the good cells.

      tl;dr I think a proper battery engineer would have their head in their hands at most of the comments in this thread.

    16. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Proof to the contrary: the iPad that did just that and forced an Apple Store to evacuate.

    17. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Back in the day laptops came with a removable battery and adequate charger. Many also came with an app that let you control the battery charging, e.g. setting "long life mode" which would maintain around 60% charge (95-100% degrades the pack much more quickly).

      Nowadays you just throw the otherwise perfectly good laptop in the trash.

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    18. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >It stands to reason
      If you don't actually know what's happening, your "reason" argument is worthless. It's just words against actual physical evidence.

    19. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by CODiNE · · Score: 1

      Then, as long as the device is plugged in, it runs on mains power.

      On this. Part of the reason people didn't figure out their phones were being throttled tight away is that plugging in an iPhone didn't speed it up. Many phones do not have the ability to run directly on mains and route all power through the battery. They essentially can't function if the battery isn't able to feed the device enough current.

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    20. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by burtosis · · Score: 1

      Lmafo no, you are confusing nicad/nimh charging with lithium. Lithium based batteries work strictly on voltage. Fancier circuitry that monitors current can be used for gas gauging to give a better %remaining but this dosent affect various safety cutoffs based on voltage. The problem with leaving your lithium device of any kind plugged in is lithium batteries of all types deteriorate faster when charged or over discharged. That's why lithium batteries are often stored at a low state of charge, to prswerve thier lifetime. Additionally, the hotter they get the faster they deteriorate, there are charging and discharging thermal limits manufacturers impose for safety. So leaving the unit plugged in and running all the time, a case and or warm temps make this worse, means your battery is degrading the fastest possible while remaining within specifications. This isn't a problem with 5 or 10 devices, nor is is a problem with 500 or 1000, but when you start talking 500,000 to 1,000,000 then you hit the statistical issues of fires. The types of lithium batteries used in all products are inherently unstable, no manufacturer is going to sell a million units and get off with no issues.

    21. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Actually batteries work exactly that way.

      It stands to reason that eventually the charger starts to overcharge the cells without knowing that there's vastly reduced headroom.

      No it doesn't. The mAh capacity of the battery has no relation at all to it's charging other than with reduced mAh capacity the same charging profile completes faster. The profile is voltage based and does not change over the life of the battery.

      Plus there's all sorts of problems with the way the cells are connected. Some will fail ahead of others, but the loss of performance from them is masked by the others and the charger merrily pumps current through the bad cells on the way to the good cells.

      Errr no. There's a reason why the cell includes management circuitry at the connectors, and when you use cells that don't, well that's why individual balance connects are brought out to the chargers.

      tl;dr I think a proper battery engineer would have their head in their hands at most of the comments in this thread.

      Yes I fully agree, but not for the same reason you think.

    22. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you believe APL?

      "No reasonable person would believe [us]". (And yes, everything they say is advertising for how great they are =P)

    23. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      apple probably changed their circuits to protect their profits.

    24. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno, let's see:

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-fires-sparked-at-gas-pump/

      https://www.nfpa.org/Public-Education/By-topic/Property-type-and-vehicles/Vehicles/Service-station-safety

      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/static-electricity-pump-fires/

      https://www.creditdonkey.com/gas-station-statistics.html

      It looks like you are a lot more likely to be burned to death while pumping gas (actual deaths have occurred, averaging 2 per year from 2004 through 2008) than from charging a phone (four incidents total being reported here, no known fatalities)

    25. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by dissy · · Score: 1

      I there are issues with charge cut-off then the blame belongs with the charging logic.

      I somehow doubt the charging logic can do much about the situation when the battery is punctured and explodes irregardless of what the battery is connected to.

      I'd suppose the charging circuit could just refuse to ever charge the battery any at all, but that would likely draw more complaints.

      How often does somebody blow themselves up pumping gas these days?

      Do you mean the number in total, or the number specifically when a gas tank is punctured?
      Gas station fires are frequent enough. No idea on punctured tanks, they do tend to place the tanks underground to help prevent that.

      I guess to be fair it seems like a gas station having a tank punctured would have a somewhat lower chance of a fire since the fuel would still need to find its way to an open flame.

      High density batteries tend to pretty much always explode when punctured if they are maintaining any amount of charge.

    26. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      You don't know that overcharging was the cause of the fire, and neither does anyone else that hasn't been officially involved in the investigation from the fire department, the insurance company, or Apple.

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    27. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      I somehow doubt the charging logic can do much about the situation when the battery is punctured and explodes

      The "battery exploded because it was punctured" is a thing made up by Apple apologists, rather it seems more likely that the battery was punctured by exploding. Typical Apple to dodge responsibility for its mistakes, remember "you're holding it wrong?" Except this time, Apple runs the risk of killing people. In fact, people have actually died using Apple products. When Apple sends its astroturfers out to social networking sites to lie about punctured batteries it shows what Apple really is, a cult that will stop at nothing to hide its mistakes.

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    28. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Waccoon · · Score: 1

      Search YouTube for videos on Apple device repair, and failed charging circuits (and power management) are among the #1 reason for repair. I'm not sure these circuits can be trusted to do their job correctly if they themselves blow up all the time.

    29. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Are you an Apple employee trying to make Apple haters look even dumber than they already are?

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    30. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Oh clever little man, you posted a link that says your Apple product will just wear out if you leave it plugged in, not explode. But then, there are these exploding Apple products, which is it? Do they suck because the battery wears out when plugged in, or do they suck because they explode if left plugged in? Or both?

      It would seem that A) from the news reports and B) Apple's own blogs that the answer is "both". Not like we had to ask.

      Now scurry away and fix your products.

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    31. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Oh clever little man, you posted a link that says your Apple product will just wear out if you leave it plugged in, not explode. But then, there are these exploding Apple products, which is it? Do they suck because the battery wears out when plugged in, or do they suck because they explode if left plugged in? Or both?

      It would seem that A) from the news reports and B) Apple's own blogs that the answer is "both". Not like we had to ask.

      Now scurry away and fix your products.

      No. Apple's statement is that you might experience reduced battery life if you leave your product plugged-in. That's because Apple's guidelines for best-practices include a suggestion that you do at least a monthly deep-cycle discharge and recharge. That isn't Apple's suggestion; it's the battery industry's.

      That's because LiOn/LiPo batteries, no matter who's device they are in, while not experiencing much "memory effect" (look it up), DO experience SOME "memory effect". This, plus the fact that the internal controller chips inside these batteries become slightly miscalibrated over time of many shallow discharges, and a deep-cycle keeps them calibrated. This is most certainly NOT an "Apple Thing:

      https://www.androidcentral.com...

      https://lifehacker.com/5875162...

      https://www.notebookcheck.net/...

      So yes, facts ARE "clever".

      Now go away.

    32. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      The Apple thing is, fucking up the charge control logic in the device so that batteries die sooner than they should, or even explode as we have seen on multiple occasions. If you are ok with increasing the risk of burning down your house or injuring yourself, Apple is your company. Instead of fixing their defective products we just see assholes like you denying it.

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    33. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      You don't know that overcharging was not the cause of the fire, and neither does anyone else that hasn't been officially involved in the investigation from the fire department, the insurance company, or Apple.

      Fixed.

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    34. Re:Was the device plugged in for 2-3 years? by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      The Apple thing is, fucking up the charge control logic in the device so that batteries die sooner than they should, or even explode as we have seen on multiple occasions. If you are ok with increasing the risk of burning down your house or injuring yourself, Apple is your company. Instead of fixing their defective products we just see assholes like you denying it.

      Prove it.

  21. All lithium-cobalt battery chemistries by evanh · · Score: 1

    need to be banned for sure. That's always been a good idea.

  22. Let the battery bulge by Dwedit · · Score: 1

    Make it a little thicker, just so the battery can release gas and bulge rather than explode.

    1. Re:Let the battery bulge by burtosis · · Score: 1

      Interesting fun fact, lithium cells, like the lipo ones used in phones, actually increase in size with charge. You can tell with either a micrometer (tricky because of the plastic case) or by fixing it in a vise and using a load cell. Samsung ran into problems by making the battery compartment too small and this caused problems. Not to be confused with the outgassing failed cells exhibit.

  23. TFA title should read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Apple's Amsterdam Store Evacuated After Heterosexual White Male Walks Through The Door".

  24. Apple reigns because they focus on user experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Say what you will, but so long as Apple remains the user experience king it will continue its reign. Not to mention the security benefits for everyday people.

    Im sure someone disagrees and will go on a diatribe but itâ(TM)s ok to be wrong.

  25. Click Bait for a Youtube Video Embeded in Article by thechemic · · Score: 1

    Click Bait for a Youtube Video Embeded in Article

    Go ahead... watch the video.

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  26. apple batteries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    atomic

  27. Explodes? Explodes?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many times do I have to tell you not to feed those folk Mexican food! Thatâ(TM)s why they keep exploding!

  28. Re: Apple reigns because they focus on user experi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reign in what way? They have 15% of the phone market and much less in desktop and laptop computers.

  29. First I've heard of this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And apparently this is the third time it's happened. Yet when it was a Samsung phone battery exploding, I knew about it because everywhere was making jokes about Samsung phones being a terrorist device, etc.

    So why the silence here?

  30. Re:Apple reigns because they focus on user experie by johnsie · · Score: 1

    They don't reign over me. I've never had an iphone and don't plan to. I get my better quality Xiaomi phones direct from China and save a good bit of money.

  31. (perceived) risks by k2r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If one in a million batteries catches fire per year that seems like a very rare, maybe acceptable risk.
    - compared to the risk of _being_ killed by a firearm in the US of about 30 in a million persons per year*1
    Apple sold > 200'000'000 iPhones in the last 4 quarters.(*2) So that would mean 200 exploding new iPhones per year.
    The press would be all over it, so the real number and thus the risk must be waaaay lower.

    Same goes for Samsung and the rest, of course. So move along, nothing to see here. But yes, it's funny that it happened in an Apple Store :)

    *1 combining topics Apple and guncontrol, because fire is fun. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/ind...
    *2 these numbers are impressive and kind of frightening. https://www.statista.com/stati...

    1. Re:(perceived) risks by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      If one in a million batteries catches fire per year that seems like a very rare, maybe acceptable risk.
      - compared to the risk of _being_ killed by a firearm in the US of about 30 in a million persons per year*1
      Apple sold > 200'000'000 iPhones in the last 4 quarters.(*2) So that would mean 200 exploding new iPhones per year.
      The press would be all over it, so the real number and thus the risk must be waaaay lower.

      Same goes for Samsung and the rest, of course. So move along, nothing to see here. But yes, it's funny that it happened in an Apple Store :)

      *1 combining topics Apple and guncontrol, because fire is fun. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/ind...
      *2 these numbers are impressive and kind of frightening. https://www.statista.com/stati...

      The battery was PUNCTURED.

      It's right there in TFS, FFS!

      Sheesh!

    2. Re:(perceived) risks by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      1 combining topics Apple and guncontrol

      I'm so conflicted right now, do I moderate up, do I moderate down? ... This is hard.

  32. it takes courage... by sad_ · · Score: 1

    ...to use an ipad.

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  33. life is like an ipad by sad_ · · Score: 1

    you never know which one will blow up.

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  34. Glad no one died by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now, can Apple STOP making everything so damn thin? That's ultimately what is causing all of these problems. Hot batteries need room to expand. Who the hell is demanding ultrathin phones anyway?

  35. Hand grenades explode. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ipad batteries catch fire.

  36. Business is booming by spinitch · · Score: 1

    Business is booming

  37. Mission impossible misplaced by spinitch · · Score: 1

    MI message caused destruction? Guessing was a display unit that might have been mishandled by staff or shop dwellers. Though could be a bad battery, not installed correctly, perhaps mischievous aliens or earthlings sabotage? Hopefully the EU authorities investigate and share more since details are limited. Hopefully diagnostic software can be developmed to help sense troubled batteries?

  38. LiIon batteries are time bombs by bobbied · · Score: 1

    The LiIon battery is basically a little hand grenade waiting to go off. We are packing so much energy into such small spaces that there is always a risk of releasing that energy unexpectedly. The problem is you never really know when this release might happen. Through careful manufacturing and quality control we can make such events fairly rare, but the risk will remain.

    The biggest issue is we are pushing the boundaries for size and weight at a given storage capacity, making the manufacturing tolerances extremely tight and hard to maintain.

    Then... There is the mishandling and abuse problem for LiIon batteries. It's almost a sure bet that abusing one of these things, by bending it, puncturing it or otherwise using it out of it's designed environmental conditions can easily set one off. And it seems that repair facilities are where this risk is greatest. If you do such work, best be prepared for this eventuality and have procedures to deal with it. Apparently Apple is doing just that.

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  39. All apple products are dumpster* fires. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    * iDumpster sold separately

  40. Order your special sandbox now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The five vowels are all represented here.

    A - is for Amsterdam (Ha! You thought it was for Apple, didn't you, fanboi?)
    E - is for evac
    I - is for iPad
    O - OMG!
    U - have to see this: the sandbox

    Fire extinguisher still suggested. Feel free to order these specialized sandboxes. shortened Amazon search url for copy-n-paste: https://is.gd/bMuf4R

  41. This is why Apple products come in such nice boxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you read the manuals for Apple products very carefully, you will find that the reason the products are provided in such attractive boxes is because after unboxing, you are supposed to buy enough sand to fill the box and then always carry and keep the box of sand with the device in case of fire. While the products are slim and light, that six pound box of sand is sort of a pain to carry around.