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New York City Announces Plans To Introduce Legislation To Cut Building Emission, Its Top Source Of Climate Pollution (huffingtonpost.com)

A top New York City lawmaker announced a bill Monday to mandate dramatic energy use cuts in big buildings, by far the biggest source of carbon dioxide, in a historic move that could set a new standard for cities around the world. From a report: The legislation plans to require the city's largest buildings to reduce energy use by 20 percent by 2030, as well as to set a framework for increasing the cuts by 40 percent to 60 percent by 2050. Combined with projected increases for renewable energy capacity on the power grid, the city could reduce its climate-warming emissions by 80 percent. Electricity and heating in buildings make up nearly 70 percent of the city's climate pollution, with luxury towers producing the lion's share. "The low-hanging fruit is gone," City Councilman Costa Constantinides, a Queens legislator who leads the council's Committee on Environmental Protection, said Monday morning on the steps of City Hall. "If we are going to make a real impact on climate change, it's going to be on buildings." The legislation, which is not yet complete, would make the nation's largest and most economically influential metropolis among the first major cities in the world to mandate strict retrofits on existing buildings to reduce planet-warming emissions.

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  1. Real estate guys will love it by nospam007 · · Score: 3

    Especially the orange ones.

    1. Re:Real estate guys will love it by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I expect this is mostly political, vs actually trying to save the environment. I am no way a Trump supporter, but this seems to be a political stunt just to hurt the president.

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  2. City owned buildings? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The law seems to primarily target city-owned buildings -- hope there's money to retrofit them and it doesn't result in the closing of services. Frankly, I see a better path for NY State: build more nuclear power stations to replace Indian Point when it closes. If you can't reduce energy use too much, you can at least make the source(s) clean.

    1. Re:City owned buildings? by alvinrod · · Score: 2

      The summary seems to imply that luxury towers are the biggest offenders and I can't imagine the city owning any of those at all. Of course the source is HuffPo and if you click through the article "luxury towers" is a link to a different article about Trump Tower, so for all I know you know more about it than they do and they just wanted to make a jab at Trump.

      They do at least link to the report: https://www.urbangreencouncil.org/content/projects/blueprint-efficiency-80x50-buildings-partnership-report. I gave it a quick glance and couldn't find the 70% figure that they mention, but I did not look very long or hard.

    2. Re:City owned buildings? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2

      Probably not, but some city-owned school buildings did use coal furnaces well into the 2010s.

    3. Re:City owned buildings? by Smidge204 · · Score: 2

      > After you've replaced your bulbs with CFs or LEDs, there's not really a next huge leap you can take.

      Nonsense, there's lots you can do.

      Smarter lighting (daylight harvesting, occupancy sensing) can reduce energy usage by 20% or more right off the top regardless of lighting type. (The now enforced 2016 ECC goes absolutely bonkers with this kind of stuff)

      Replace older AC units with more efficient heat pumps.

      Replace older fuel burning appliances (especially oil fired boilers) with newer, more efficient ones. If you've got hydronic heating there is basically zero reason to not use a low mass condensing boiler on your next replacement.

      Domestic hot water is a huge energy hog and there's lots you can do to make it more efficient, including better heaters, recirc systems and controls.

      Demand based energy recovery ventilation is a must-have for any commercial projects I've worked on in NYC. They are amazing machines.
      =Smidge=

  3. Is it really a percentage? by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    I really hope the bill is not to make all buildings cut energy use by 20% - that would mean buildings that tried to be forward thinking and have low energy use to begin with, would have to spend quite a lot more to meet a 20% target than some buildings that didn't care about energy use and could meet a 20% target with simpler and cheaper measures...

    So hopefully it's more complex than the article makes it sounds. But knowing politicians, probably not.

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  4. Buildings are good, but missing the REAL emitter by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    Seriously, in any large city, there are 2 main sources of pollution and CO2.
    1) electricity since most cities have 1 or more coal plants.
    2) vehicles, esp since nearly all are ICE.

    NY and NYC have been going at things in a catywhumpus sort of way. At this time, NY would be smart to implement a modified form of CA's new regs; require that all new buildings of 6 stories and under to have enough unsubsidized on-site AE to equal/exceed the energy used by HVAC. This will encourage things like more insulation,geo-thermal HVAC, and even high lumens/watt bulbs. The reason is that solar is more expensive than those alternatives.
    Likewise, all rentals AND home sales, should be required to have all high lumens/watt bulbs upon tenant turnover. THis will drop the energy used by about 5-10%.
    In addition, for any building below 6 stories that is doing rentals/leasing, they should be required to pay for the HVAC. In doing that, it will encourage the landlord to either insulate it and move to CHEAP HVAC, OR sell it to somebody that will do it.

    Finally, it is time for cities to have some courage and stop allowing vehicles in.
    FOr starters, stop all passenger diesels.
    Year after that, stop the commercial diesel.
    Then ALL ICE passenger vehicles.
    Followed by all ICE.

    4 years is plenty long.

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