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Democratic National Committee Says Hackers Unsuccessfully Targeted Voter Database (cnn.com)
The Democratic National Committee contacted the FBI on Tuesday after it detected what it believes was the beginning of a sophisticated attempt to hack into its voter database, a Democratic source tells CNN. From a report: The DNC was alerted in the early hours of Tuesday morning by a cloud service provider and a security research firm that a fake login page had been created in an attempt to gather usernames and passwords that would allow access to the party's database, the source said. The page was designed to look like the access page Democratic Party officials and campaigns across the country use to log into a service called Votebuilder, which hosts the database, the source said, adding the DNC believed it was designed to trick people into handing over their login details. The source said the DNC is investigating who may have been responsible for the attempted attack, but that it has no reason to believe its voter file was accessed or altered.
Well, we know someone associated with DNC or their providers managed to detect one possible attack. This does not mean that other attacks were unsuccessful, and considering DNC track record my money would be that they are getting hacked every other day and just don't know about it.
Well in not saying the Russians are behind this but... the Russians are obviously behind this
Buh, buh, buh - RUSSIA!
fucking libtards
Come back when you actually have something to show collusion. You have nothing. This was an unsuccessful attempt and still nobody has shown any collusion between Donald Trump and Russia. This is a non-story.
You're the first one here to drag Trump into this. Nobody has so far alleged that he's responsible for this attack.
Oh, but it was (possibly) "the beginning of a sophisticated attack!" Sadly, the average person still falls for this sort of FUD.
Unironiclly, this is exactly right. Many fake sites have been set up to vilify you know who... because the last 2 years of finger pointing has been soooo successful.
WTF, ZoneAlarm set up a fake login page to harvest username/passwords on your PC in the 90's.
Seriously dude, RTFS and STFU, you are too stupid to be here.
Cohen flips on Trump and the next day Russia attempts a sophisticated intrusion into a DNC server. Seems more than coincidental. Russia is spooked, and rightfully so.
Won't be long before the next shoe drops.
I ran a private email server for the family (not Hillary Clinton) back in the late 90s - early 00s and was constantly being probed to try to crack the SMTP password. Had one guy make about one attempt every minute with a new password from some stock dictionary of common passwords. I wasn't concerned about anyone figuring that out (it was a large password) but finally threw in the towel after somebody spoofed one of the email addresses and sent out a ton of spam on behalf of it and I ended up on some black lists.
It's worth $12/year just to let my registrar handle it now!
I've used it before calling on behalf of Beto. It's a shit database. At least 50% old numbers or disconnected. Of the other half, most either don't care or have republican husbands who answer the phone and yell at you. 10% are gonna vote for a D already. About 5% of the people might have been worth calling. The Russians couldn't have made it much worse.
There's a huge difference between a random bot probing for unpatched vulnerabilities and a highly targeted attack with a specifically created fake login page.
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I'm sorry, are you under the impression that it's anything but trivial to set up a fake login page? Who's too stupid to be here?
While not a sophisticated attack, a mocked up login portal is much more targeted than the bots that scrape the internet to look for open ports.
This is something in between what the article implies (some sort of high-tech conspiracy hacking attack) and what you're saying (dumb vulnerability scanners in the wild).
and people who are 116 years old....
The Russians don't need to hack the RNC. They've already got a man on the inside.
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It's fun to post conspiracy theories for either/both sides. Always gets a reaction from someone.
Come back when you actually have something to show collusion. You have nothing. This was an unsuccessful attempt and still nobody has shown any collusion between Donald Trump and Russia. This is a non-story.
Don't worry, if there is something, Mueller has it. And Mueller evidently doesn't leak or talk about it like a good investigator should. So you idiots that keep saying "there's nothing".....we'll see. Save it for when the special counsel dumps everything and we know for sure. Until then, stop potentially making a fool out of yourself because you may end up eating your words.
I would assume the RNC and other national political bodies are targeted. They simply choose not to disclose the attacks publicly.
I doubt my employer would disclose any hacking---attempted or successful---unless legally required to do so.
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The page was designed to look like the access page Democratic Party officials and campaigns across the country use to log into a service called Votebuilder, which hosts the database, the source said, adding the DNC believed it was designed to trick people into handing over their login details.
As recent history shows, Democratic operatives choose weak passwords ('password') and offer them up readily when asked for them via email from strangers...
I'm looking at you, Jon Podesta, former campaign director of Hillary 2016.
Ken
Hacking happens to everyone, agreed we shouldn't be throwing poo at each other at every chance. It's stupid.
Random IP/port-scanning and a targeted phishing attack are not at all the same thing. Targeted phishing actually takes a modicum of effort and implies that the attacker has a specific agenda for your specific service/data.
I bet when you turned on ZoneAlarm you felt like you were super computer smart too.
And people say they're not manufacturing [fraudulent] votes.
Back in 2015 and 2016 the DNC poo-poo'd FBI and other agencies that tried to alert them that they were the targets of concerted hacking efforts.
Ken
It's nothing new, it's hardly newsworthy, it's just something that happens.
The claim isn't that they were hacked, it's that someone created a clone of their login page on a common typo of their website URL.
It's like your local newspaper putting a headline on the front page: "Bank break-in attempted" when their security cameras show someone walked past the bank front door and 'tested the lock'.
Ken
Give it a break liberals. Hacking isn't new nor is it infrequent.
So because it's not new nor infrequent, there's no value in reporting it?
Pretty much.
Can you think of anything that's common and has happened for a long time that's newsworthy?
You *might* get by with "not commonly known", but I think reports of hacking don't qualify for that - especially on this site.
"See, we got this phone call and they said they were with Windows technical support and one of our computers was spewing error messages all over the Internet...
They've already got a plan for if that happens:
"Truth isn't truth"
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They're pre-excusing their impending midterm loss. They know full well that President Trump is incredibly popular and has wide support. They know that their lunatic fringe took over and primaried out all their candidates that had a snowball's chance of winning. They know that they can't win in a fair fight.
So they're prestaging excuses and getting ready to use every dirty trick in the book to try and steal the 2018 elections. They're hoping that they can obstruct President Trump's success in improving the American economy, securing our borders, fixing our broken international agreements, and improving the lives of all Americans. This is just part of that effort - to have a ready excuse to fall back on if their attempts to steal the election fail.
From the sound of the article, it appears to be a targeted attack on the system, vs just a general blanket attack on all things computery.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
What's so special about hackers targeting valuable data? Can you imagine being alerted everytime that happens?
Or is it that they are so proud they protected against this one that they want a pat on the back?
Mod me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
Manafort is on trial for collusion in a few weeks. Collusion is not a legal term, the exact laws broken include foreign lobbying (a felony) and money laundering facilitating illegal payments (also a felony). This is colluding with a foreign power against the United States. But wait - both cohens plea and the upcoming trial will settle the no evidence of trumps colluding, legally, and if Manafort is convicted will force even republicans to impeach.
They are just trying to establish precedent for 'evidence' when they get spanked in November. Don't fall for it.
Yea, it's not like trump went on national TV and announced to the world for Russia to hack emails this time. Only last time.
I ran a private email server for the family (not Hillary Clinton) back in the late 90s - early 00s and was constantly being probed to try to crack the SMTP password. Had one guy make about one attempt every minute with a new password from some stock dictionary of common passwords. I wasn't concerned about anyone figuring that out (it was a large password) but finally threw in the towel after somebody spoofed one of the email addresses and sent out a ton of spam on behalf of it and I ended up on some black lists. It's worth $12/year just to let my registrar handle it now!
Most blacklists are more sophisticated now. Nobody blacklists you for having one of your return addresses on a batch of spam. Everyone knows that spammers forge return addresses.
I've run a couple mail servers for many years and it's always cat and mouse with spammers. I use fail2ban and any IP that triggers fail2ban more than once is permanently dropped into my firewall rules for all ports. Obvious password guessers don't get a second chance. If I get multiple hits from the same CIDR block, I drop the whole lot in my rules.
Despite my policies, password guessing is fairly fruitless on my system anyway as my usernames are complicated and do not match the email addresses that are associated with them. Hackers have to guess the username AND the password. When I get an attempt to log in using an email address "username", I know it's a hacker/script kiddie and they get dropped into the blackhole. At this point the only ones I have left trying are slow distributed attacks that don't try often enough to trip fail2ban and never use the same IP twice anyway.
Again - like a TARGETED ATTACK on a system for valuable data doesn't happen to the RNC or to other parties?
That's like saying because somebody tried picking the lock instead of breaking the windows that they were after something different. We get it, you want to think this is somehow IMPORTANT TO THE GRAND STORY OF RUSSIAN COLLUSION.
It's not.
Unless you want to say this is more proof that Trump's move to increase cyber warfare attacks against those that attack our systems is justified by this failed attempt.
Are you?
and say that if they're brought in the FBI it's something more than just a random hit to their IP address.
The hacking of the DNC really ought to be a bigger scandal than it was, and if our media was doing it's job of investigative journalism it would be. There's strong evidence that the Russians got ahold of voter rolls and send them on to the Republican party and/or the Trump campaign. There was a sudden shift in the Trump campaign's ad buys and campaigning where it became highly effective for no discernible reason, and it was right around when the hack happened....
One of the reasons I'd really love to see basic income become a thing is that it would pay for people to be investigative journalists. Combine basic income with the internet's cheap ability to distribute information. and we'd have a winning formula for one of the most important aspects of democracy, the free press. As it stands there's little work being done to investigate Trump won outside of the Mueller probe, and given the political situation that may fizzle out whereas independent journalism might hit a Watergate style breakthrough.
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Back in the mid-90s the first time I turned on ZoneAlarm I was getting a break-in attempt about once every 5 seconds on my IP address.
Today, in 2018, I see hackers attempting to hack my website multiple times daily.
Give it a break liberals. Hacking isn't new nor is it infrequent.
Yep. I run my own Nextcloud as a private server on a different port. I get e-mails from fail2ban about hack attempts. Mostly from China. Nothing new. Just long as security measures such as securing the admin accounts and alerts are in place you're fine.
DNC can't be trusted with voter information and neither can the RNC.
I shouldn't have to declare a party to vote and be prevented from voting in the other primaries. All this does is provide extreme candidates which don't join the country together.
Wrong, he can be administratively removed for being unfit for office by his staff also, but they have to be pretty much unanimous. We're close.
This from the party that always manages to find a cache of uncounted votes whenever they are losing? Um, yeah...
Yes. RNC just happened to survive it the first time .
Perhaps, because they run a tighter ship, so to speak...
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In defense of a known traitor, Donald Jumpsuit Drumpf, who sucked Putin's dick on TV at every opportunity and continues to lie to their punk ass retarded Republican fat faggot faces as the final days stretch into final nights.
When Trump hangs, America will be great again. Giuliani is the single most retarded excuses for a President's legal counsel in our history. That's counsel, not council, Trump University morons. You deserve your traitor.
And he deserves life in prison, if not the gallows for treason - he will get one or the other, sorry snowflake Republican traitors. You lost the long game on Trump, and it's going to be around your neck for decades, traitors.
And we all get to sit back with a cold drink and watch him, and your party, unravel, lol.
But they still vote. Dedicated.
Haha! Go for it, but at least be honest enough to post as anything other than AC....
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This is more of the pre-election setup by the Democrats to be able to explain after November why they didn't take the House and lose seats in the Senate. Basically "muh Russia" is being prepared as the excuse for the failure of a blue wave. Has to be, don't ya know, because according to all history and statistics the party out of power always picks up seats in mid terms so when they don't it has to be because of the Russians because it absolutely can't be because Americans are sick of their crap and decided to not vote for them.
Good to know that an AC who is afraid to post under his own name is telling me all about "phishing" when the headline is talking about "hacking" There's a difference there Mr. Smart AC!
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Well, since you brought the president up, his August 5 tweet pretty much admits the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting of June 9 2016 was to solicit campaign aid from a foreign intelligence service -- to coin a phrase, to "collude" with the Russians. The claim now is that it was perfectly legal to do that (experts disagree).
The story about that meeting has changed so frequently I don't blame you if you missed that particular entry.
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Nice try, Vlad. Are you on TRUMP's payroll like Stormy Daniels or did the KGB pay you a few rubles for this post?
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Give it a break liberals. Hacking isn't new nor is it infrequent.
So because it's not new nor infrequent, there's no value in reporting it?
News is intended to be new.
Would you be defending a story about how a tree fell down in a forest? Would you be defending a story about how a tree fell down in a forest and nearly hit a Democrat!
Who cares. This isn't news.
Wait, no, nevermind - we don't talk about that. It was her turn. Russia Russia Russia.
The real reason is that the RNC's secrets were handed to Putin's boys by RNC insiders.
500+ people tried to hack my servers today. Tried. Attempted. Skiddied, Dreamed of, salivated.
Yep, but didn't actually do it.
The DNC is filled with the highest order of retards
And Manafort and Cohen will be found not guilty.
I am a humble, ignorant person, so please forgive me if this is common knowledge. (Or don't forgive me, but then that'll be your problem.)
Is this confidential information? If it's not, then who cares if Russia accessed it?
If it's confidential, then HOW THE FUCK do political parties get it? DNC and RNC shouldn't have access to it either, so we should be investigating how they "hacked" the database (i.e. stole it from the government).
Seems like if we put the major parties in prison, they won't as easily be able to spy on us, so they won't have as much information for Russians to steal.
Yep: Hack DemoRat azzwholes not database ... er unless the crap pouring out of prog-slut gestapo supervenes on a vegetarian diet.
of the "russia" smoke and mirrors bullshit
500+ people tried to hack my servers today. Tried. Attempted. Skiddied, Dreamed of, salivated.
Yep, but didn't actually do it.
The DNC is filled with the highest order of retards
Have you seen what passes for mainstream Democrats these days? When the party is full on retard you should expect the leadership to exhibit it too.
Like this doesn't happen to the RNC or to other parties? EVERYTHING on the net is being hacked and targetted. I'd be more surprised that this DIDN'T happen to any political campaign with a net presence.
That's not even the craziest part.
Why even hack the DNC to obtain their voter database when all they'd need to do is obtain the registries for all the cemeteries/mausoleums, crematoriums, and funeral homes (including recent obituaries in a close race) in a given Democratic district?
It has to have been the work of a foreign state as Americans would know better.
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Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
I see dead people.
Have gnu, will travel.
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They wouldn't know if it was a sophisticated attack.
There is no "against the United States" aspect to the charges, it's simply lobbying on "behalf" of a foreign power without registering. Foreign lobbying probably makes up 50% or more of what goes on in Washington and a very large portion of that is unregistered. Violations of the registration regulations are rarely prosecuted and most times the person can simply retroactively register. It's basically the 'fix-it' ticket of the political world. I remember seeing reports of a large uptick in retroactive registrations after Manafort was initially charged.
I'm pretty sure those charges are just sticking around because of the money laundering he apparently did while working for the pro-Russian Ukrainians. Of course that was all pre-Trump campaign when he was actually working with the brother of the Clinton campaign chair so has no impact on Trump legally speaking.
As for Cohen's guilty plea on poorly defined charges, legally speaking this also has little to no impact on Trump. Even large campaign finance violations are usually dealt with through small fines and on the scale of violations, if it even is adjudicated as one, this is small potatoes. Politically speaking, by hiring Clinton's top strategist and advisor as his lawyer who then advised him to plea to a violation that's almost impossible to prove (John Edwards was a more straight cut case and even that couldn't be prosecuted), Cohen gave Trump all the cover he would need.
Of course that's just my opinion...... you could be wrong!
For fuck's sake, you trumptards are the sourest winners in all of history.
The difference between Liberals and Conservatives is Liberals take Trump literally while Conservatives take him figuratively.
He could also get an aneurysm and die.
Old, fat and ill-tempered is not a good combination.
I understand if they are unable to hack a system, or not even able to find it, but unable to target it?
Blindfold me and I am able to target (and miss) a pinata.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
You're a lie behind. The president already admitted that he colluded with Russia. He says so. That issue is settled. His new position is that his part in the conspiracy wasn't illegal.
Cohen has also corroborated the conspiracy. In his case, it's an illegal conspiracy, but Cohen's not the president, so his crime is a real crime, whereas the president's actions can't be a crime, because presidents are above the law.
That's where we stand right now, and Trump agrees with it all. The no-conspiracy lie is obsolete and the president has already completely given up denying it, and admitted it instead.
Try to catch up, ok? I know it's hard, because this president has a different position every day, but that's the game you signed up to play! Don't hate the other players who correct you; hate the game. We all fall behind sometimes, and appreciate updates. If you've heard a newer lie from the president, please share. The credit karma all works out and there's no reason some can't come your way.
You know how dead people wind up being registered to vote? They register to vote when they're alive ... and then they die. That's not voter fraud.
There are lots of people (1.8 million?) who are registered to vote and who are dead. But dead people voting? Not so much. Voter impersonation is almost nonexistent.
If it weren't for deadlines, nothing would be late.
e.g. not with full address information let alone any demographics and the like.
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It's like your local newspaper putting a headline on the front page: "Bank break-in attempted" when their security cameras show someone walked past the bank front door and 'tested the lock'.
Analogy fail. It's more like someone created a copy of the bank's front door, in order to trick a bank employee to insert their key so it could be copied.
And let's not forget TFH: the hack was "unsuccessful."
If it weren't for deadlines, nothing would be late.
During the 2016 hack, why didn't the DNC immediately contact the FBI? Instead, the sleazy Wasserman Schultz-led DNC back then relied on a private IT security company to investigate. (Full disclosure: many years before that, I lived in Representative Wasserman Schultz's congressional district in South Florida and I even voted for her.) Donald Trump even asked why the DNC did not hand over their hard drives to the FBI for investigation, and then I think he probably made up some cockamamie conspiracy theory answering his own question.
At least now the DNC appears to have contacted the FBI about this latest hacking attempt.
But I still do not understand why the DNC in 2016 did not rely on the FBI when it was hacked by the Russians back then.
I recall once, over ten years ago when I cared about such things, finding a whole typo-squatting domain with hundreds of fake login pages, crudely scraped from the real ones. Official complaints supposedly got it shut down, but as in all such things, I imagine it merely moved to a slightly different location in cyberspace. It's so easy to do that I wish somebody like Mickeysoft would whack them intensely some time, but probably no enough karma there for them since it's a thankless and unending task, like patching Windows.
I wonder how much Cambridge Analytics data they have in this database?
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Yeah, except the integrity of an election
This has nothing to do with anything relating to the election, this is a contact database of registered voters - if hackers managed to delete any/all the records in the database it wouldn't impact a single voter, it wouldn't prevent anyone from voting.
The DNC is a private organization, not a branch of government.
Ken
But not by Russia!. https://www.motherjones.com/po... https://www.npr.org/2016/04/19... https://nypost.com/2016/04/21/...
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> Don't worry, if there is something, Mueller has it.
And even if there isn't something, he still has it. Mueller deserves to be tried as a war criminal for helping start the Iraq war, by lying about "weapons of mass destruction". See
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
I'm not repeating myself
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DNC is revving up their excuses for losing bigly in 2018 midterm elections. I'm certain they're stupid enough to try blaming their incompetence on Russia again.
Muh Russia intensifies
They had people dead 100+ years voting in the last mayoral election in the district where I live in Chicago. In Detroit, the Democrats take busloads on a vote-tour of multiple precincts giving them box lunches and usually $50 (it used to be cartons of cigarettes). That's not even counting all the illegal aliens and felons who vote.
Sure, in most places it's not a problem and dead voters are almost always recent;y deceased, but in some places it IS a problem.
And in any case, GP was simply attempting a humorous post using the old 'dead Chicago voter' trope. Why so touchy, Bro? Uncomfortable truth is uncomfortable?
...and the liberals are offended by EVERYTHING.
The DNC was hacked and the results leaked to sway the election.
The RNC was hacked and those documents are being sat on. Why, I wonder?
Blackmail, perhaps?
The GOP are fucking traitors, is the short answer.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
"Mueller has shit or he would have presented evidence already." Oh yeah? How do you know? What was the deadline? "The democrats are our biggest threat to democracy." Yeah you're right. It's not the president who likely committed campaign contribution crimes, who pardons someone that ignores a judge's orders, and ignores the advice of his intelligence agencies. "Trump hasn't done anything to hurt you so stop whining." Give it time Vlad. Trump has already further polarized the country and is currently working on reducing the legitimacy of the judicial branch among other government agencies that don't agree with him. "The economy has improved and we've stopped apologizing to other countries for being great." The economy was good the day he took office, then took credit for it on inauguration day. Some leader, huh? Dear Leader, perhaps.
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Correct, they won't be found guilty of anything related to Trump or the campaign. They'll be found guilty of crimes committed years before the campaign related to taxes, but absolutely nothing connected to the campaign.
Oh look, that is exactly what happened. Manafort guilty of 8 counts of tax fraud from 12 years ago, Cohen pleading to tax fraud and bank fraud for his taxi business. So just because his highly partisan Clinton fixer attorney convinced him to agree to plead to something that isn't a crime, that doesn't mean a damn thing. Bradley Smith former FEC chairman has explained there is no FEC violation.
Paying off people to keep quite is not a crime and is not a campaign contribution according to the FEC unless campaign funds were used. A plea deal is not a conviction, no evidence has been presented. And the noise about Trump being an "un-indicted co-conspirator" is crap as well. As Alan Dershowitz said even if Cohen plead to a real crime, doesn't mean Trump committed one. Trump has the full right to use his money to "catch and kill" any negative stories. And a candidate is allowed to spend as much of his own money on his campaign as he likes, there is no contribution cap for the candidates themselves.
This is no different than a candidate selling a foreign car and buying and American made car to "influence an election". As long as no campaign funds were used, there is no crime. And no one has claimed or has evidence of campaign funds being used. It isn't like he funneled $12m in campaign funds through Cohen or something.
But let's put this in perspective - if you think Trump buying these stories to hide them is an illegal campaign contribution intended to influence the election then you must also agree that NBC buying the Hollywood Access video and releasing it in October was also an illegal campaign contribution to Clinton that was explicitly intended to influence the election, right?
The article I linked to says, the attack on the RNC failed. The organization was not hacked. Why, I wonder, would you misrepresent the facts this way?
Funny, how you assume, internal documents must always be embarrassing. Kinda reveals your opinion of the organizations you know from the inside :-)
That you are either a moron unable to comprehend fairly basic English, or a liar hoping to influence this kind of morons, is now established.
Whichever option applies, both explain your hatred of the GOP far better, than there being anything wrong with the object of your hate.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
It's official, this was a FALSE ALARM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/dnc-says-reported-hack-attempt-was-a-false-alarm-1535028628
According to the DNC Russian hackers had no problem doing this before.
Yeah and they had Hillary as a shill in the DNC.
It's pretty easy to get access to the database as it is. I've been given access in the past and there were no background checks at all. You'd typically be restricted to a specific state or districts, but I was also given other individual's logins that had less restrictions. People that have access seem to regularly share their logins with others. No hacking, social engineering, or phishing necessary and nothing to prevent those with access from doing full dumps and sharing that data with anyone they want.
DNC servers have never been inspected any US intelligence agency.
We are just supposed to take their words for it, because they are so honest.
And this comes from CNN - the most laughable fake name in news.
This was a phishing test by a 3rd party security firm, authorized by the Michigan Democratic party.
What did Cohen corroborate? That he paid off a porn star and was then repaid by Trump?
If you're trying to refer to the Trump tower meeting, although it's been reported Cohen had knowledge of Trump involvement, both his Senate and House testimony as well as his own lawyer statements claim that he has no knowledge about Trump's involvement. Apparently it was all just another CNN fever dream and since no one in todays news offices ever bothers to corroborate anything or look for original sources the circle jerk of reporting made it a internet fact.
Trump's position has always been the same (his August 5th tweet was actually just a repeat of statements made a year earlier):
- Jr. had a meeting with a Russian lawyer in which he thought some dirt on Hillary was going to be dished and it turned into nothing.
- No one told him about it because nothing came of it.
- Talking with foreigners isn't illegal (even most legal experts won't commit to the idea that simply giving information is a violation of election rules. Even Politifact doesn't commit to calling it a crime).
The clearest involvement of foreign nationals and campaign violations would be Clinton using her lawyers to contract Fusion GPS to hire Christopher Steele to then contact Russian government officials to create the infamous dossier but even that is a technicality. It is illegal to hide the ultimate beneficiary of campaign payouts and burying oppo research under 'lawyer fees' is a textbook example of a breaking the rules. You could potentially make the same case for Trump and the Stormy payout but at that point you simply have a he said he said issue with Cohen claiming it was campaign related and Trump saying it was personal.
In either case, even if every possible allegation is true it would still amount to nothing. Both Clinton and Trump would be charged with campaign finance violations and as is the norm, pay a small fine.
Of course that's just my opinion...... you could be wrong!