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Linux Turns 27 (omgubuntu.co.uk)
It's been 27 years since Linus Torvalds let a group of people know about his "hobby" OS. OMGUbuntu blog writes: Did you know that Linux, like Queen Elizabeth II, actually has two birthdays? Some FOSS fans consider the first public release of (prototype) code, which dropped on October 5, 1991, as more worthy of being the kernel's true anniversary date. Others, ourselves included, take today, August 25, as the "birth" date of the project. And for good reason. This is the day on which, back in 1991, a young Finnish college student named Linus Torvalds sat at his desk to let the folks on comp.os.minix newsgroup know about the "hobby" OS he was working on. The "hobby OS" that wouldn't, he cautioned, be anything "big" or "professional." Even as Linux continues to have lion's share in the enterprise world, it has only managed to capture a tiny fraction of the consumer space. Further reading: Ask Slashdot: Whatever Happened To the 'Year of Linux on Desktop'?
Which Linux-based distro do you use? What changes, if any, would you like to see in it in the next three years?
Which Linux-based distro do you use? What changes, if any, would you like to see in it in the next three years?
Linux the kernel.
You know, the kernel in all those android phones and tablets.
Quite frankly Linux is in most smart phones and tablets, and is the most popular phone os kernel of all time.
Therefore itâ(TM)s incredibly popular and successful in the consumer market.
Improvement of battery life on laptops would be nice. I'm planning to work on that myself but I have three other projects I need to get through first, so it might take a few years before I get around to it. Hopefully someone else will have done it by then.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
... if you forget about Android.
For the win!
Chaos maximizes locally around me.
Gentoo. systemd-free by default, but to prevent any dependencies from sneaking it in:
/etc/portage/make.conf
echo sys-apps/systemd >>/etc/portage/package.mask
echo sys-fs/udev >>/etc/portage/package.mask
sed -i '/^USE=/s/"$/ -systemd"/'
No need for anything else, really, as the systemd crap is replaced with a sane alternative.
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I still say it was a ploy by Redhat to bring in more support money. Here install this massive monstrosity that hasn't been tested and does many extraneous things a startup manager should never worry about. Trust us it will work fine. What is the reason for systemd having a caching DNS server?
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
1. A return of hardened gentoo and grsecurity's compliance with the GPL
2. A proper audit of the kernel and critical components to eliminate defects
3. A formal analysis of SELinux along the lines of SEL4
4. 7N reliability
5. Proper funding of RTLinux and further integration into mainstream
6. VST and malloc replacement Hoard as part of a standard Linux distro
7. Third-party maintenance of abandoned architectures
8. Rewrites of XTank, NV and PHIGS
9. Ports of Elite: Dangerous and Cubase
A. Hewlett-Packard's pluggable scheduler
B. Kernel config supporting hardware detection for suggesting defaults
C. Usable Gnome and KDE
D. Replace Systemd with something not made by committee
E. Addition of Occam-Pi/Guppy, Verified C and SystemC to LLVM
F. Harness for loading Linux modules onto alternate physical devices
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
FTR, my first distro was Yggdrasil, followed quickly by Slackware cause they had an easier method for bring in the Adaptec SCSI card.
For Desktop, I'm currently running Linux Mint which is pretty damned solid and stable and I've installed it on several family members during the Windows 7->8 fiasco and they're all still really, really happy with it.
What I would like to see Linux Desktop(TM) focus on is overall greater consistency! Starting with sound, all the way through the most basic stuff, the wide plethora of desktops (KDE, Gnome, etc.) and applications is a bloody mess of inconsistency. Having lived through "The UNIX wars", I can tell you that MS' *CONSISTENCY* in everything the user did - along with enabling developers of applications to have a single target platform - led to MS being what it is today. Choice is great, until you're paralysed by the plethora of choices and wind up with a tiny market.
PS - I could give a bubbly-fart about systemd. All I (as a user) care about is: Does this shit work?
My thoughts exactly. Make it complex, behaving arbitrarily, reduce diagnostics possibilities (binary logging) etc. and many enterprise system administrators will just have their bosses pay for support instead of wading through the mess themselves.
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Which Linux-based distro do you use? What changes, if any, would you like to see in it in the next three years?
I'm a Debian user from a million years ago who regrettably turned to the dark side of Windows as my career pulled me deeper and deeper into the abyss. Last year I cracked and switched back to Linux. I discovered and quickly fell in love with Arch, and I really identified with the Arch principles. I came to realize I may be at odds though on their versatility principle, which as I understood represented choice. This seems to apply to a number of things, but not their init system which I have had some notable frustration with. I'm sure systemd has its merits, but the next system I'm building is going to be Artix+Runit based. Not just because it is systemd free, but I'm encouraged that this seems to be a group which believes more strongly in versatility, and that is a big part of why I came crawling back to Linux. Rather than ask what my distro can do for me next, I can only hope that I can get my skills up again to be able to ask what I can do for my distro.
Rubbish. I don't use Ubuntu personally, but a lot of good has come from Ubuntu, including introducing Linux to tens of millions of desktop users. They do some stupid things, but everybody does. Without Ubuntu, Debian would not be as solid and vibrant as it is now.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
Stick to the facts scrupulously and exactly, like the pro-systemd faction you mean? Also, that you have not found stability issues does not imply others have the same experience.
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Actually, _most_ of Debian works fine with sysIVinit at this time.
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There are more non-systemd choices now:
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_distributions_without_systemd
I have been using Antix for awhile, and I just installed Devuan on one of my machines with no problems.
Oh yes, I read it. But now you're making a distinction between PC Linux and Mobile Linux, in what way is that meaningful? Either way, it is people using Linux instead of Microsoft.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
Installing Slack 1.2 from its 5 or so 3.5" floppies was how I learned linux (and BIND and vi, since they were dedicated DNS servers that I had to install and configure) back in the mid '90s. I too prefer the learn by doing, though I wouldn't turn down a few CS courses if I could afford them.
Currently using Gentoo for my server at home that I play on. Tried a few other flavors in the early '00s, but went back to Slack, then switched to Gentoo when I didn't have time for a non-managed-package setup. Used to have a dual boot desktop as well as the server, but haven't had the time for playing around as much lately, so its been straight Win10 (for those few minutes of gaming I get) since Win7 said "hey, we want you to update!" and the dual boot part broke (never got around to fixing it ... still have the hdd sitting around somewhere, though its been long enough that Gentoo install probably would not update cleanly).
krenshala
Linux might be 27 years old today, but it's aged me 40.
"Link please???" The war-cry of the systemd-fanatic that requires all in opposition to prove everything and proves nothing himself? Seriously? How stupid do you think we are?
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