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NASA Releases Thousands of Hours of Apollo 11 Mission Audio (thehill.com)

NASA and the University of Texas have teamed up to digitize 19,000 hours of recordings from the Apollo 11 mission that landed the first two people on the moon. From a report: The audio was uploaded to the Internet Archive, a nonprofit website that hosts digitized versions of cultural artifacts. "One of the things that comes across is that each of the people working for NASA is proud of what they do. They were always working collaboratively," John Hansen, a speech researcher at the university and principal investigator for the project, told NBC News.

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  1. It took over 50 years of photoshop. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    The need to keep the hoax alive.
    I AM Kidding of course.

    I would love to take a look at the color images.

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    1. Re:It took over 50 years of photoshop. by rojash · · Score: 1

      cultural, not culur !! you philistine...

    2. Re:It took over 50 years of photoshop. by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      The need to keep the hoax alive.

      So you saw that documentary with OJ Simpson too?

  2. Moon Hoaxers? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now that we have pictures of moon buggy tracks and the gear left behind on the moon...

    https://www.nasa.gov/mission_p...

    ...as well as things like this newly-released thousands-of-hours of audio, do any of the moon hoaxers start to lose their resolve?

    Or to them, is it still just part of a huge ongoing conspiracy involving thousands of men and women that continues to live on nearly 50 years later?

    1. Re:Moon Hoaxers? by olsmeister · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When you're certain something is true, facts are no obstacle. It's trivial to rewrite the narrative to work around such annoyances as proof and evidence.

    2. Re:Moon Hoaxers? by Kjella · · Score: 2

      ...as well as things like this newly-released thousands-of-hours of audio, do any of the moon hoaxers start to lose their resolve?

      No. The harder someone tries to prove to a conspiracy theorist that he's wrong, the more desperate they are because the cover-up is not working. For example the Nazis wanted order and kept tons of records on the Holocaust, but if you talk to a Holocaust denier the extensive and detailed evidence is proof that it's fake because if it was real it'd be way more fragmented and incomplete. The only way it could be so comprehensive is if there was a bunch of Jews manufacturing it, basically the compelling evidence against the conspiracy becomes part of the conspiracy. I think 19000 hours of radio chatter goes in the same category, the only way you have all this is because it's made up. But the "truthers" see through your ploy...

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    3. Re:Moon Hoaxers? by Trogre · · Score: 1

      Teh robotz did it.

      No humanz can survive the intense radiations of the Van Halen belt, so they just sent robots up instead to leave crap on the moon.

      (Or that's what these morons are saying now, at least).

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    4. Re:Moon Hoaxers? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      The only way it could be so comprehensive is if there was a bunch of Jews manufacturing it,

      That makes sense, they had a lot of time, hard labor making records, in the concentration camps to do that kind of thing.

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    5. Re:Moon Hoaxers? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Many moon hoaxers believe in a grand conspiracy that was actually more complex than just going to the bloody moon. All this audio, the faked radio transmissions, the empty rockets sent up, the robot probes that laid out all the stuff that's been left up there...

      So a few thousand hours of audio is nothing to them, compared to the amount of work they think went into that deception.

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  3. Is there a key to understanding the tapes? by mykepredko · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have no idea how this works. If I look at the Official Apollo 11 timeline (https://history.nasa.gov/SP-4029/Apollo_11i_Timeline.htm), the countdown started on July 14th and splashdown was on July 24th. I can be generous and say that the mission took 11 days (264 hours). According to TFA, there were 30 tracks of data (which yields 7,920 hours of audio). This is only 1/3 of the total - where does the 19k hours come in?

    Secondly, how do you know which tape to look for what? For example, I'd love to hear the rendezvous of the conversation of the CM and the ascent module during docking after launching from the moon but I have no idea where to look in terms of time/track.

    I did do a search, but couldn't find any information on this or a key to understand the tapes. Anybody have any ideas?

    1. Re:Is there a key to understanding the tapes? by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      It may come, but this isn't bad - if someone could filter out the 60Hz AC noise on at least one of the recordings it would be even better.

      A lot of the time it's just silence.

      So I think that some post processing would make these recordings more accessible to the public.

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    2. Re:Is there a key to understanding the tapes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The article says 170 tapes with 30 tracks, it does not say how long any of them are or that they were only recording 30 tracks at one time. 5,100 tracks is all it gives you. The NASA release mentions these are "surviving tapes" and also says there is a lot more audio that hasn't been digitized. It also hints at transcriptions, perhaps coming to the Explore Apollo site at some point.

      The labels have things like "Flight Director (L)" and "Flight Director (R)" taking up two tracks on a tape. Some of the ones I have opened up sound like they are data (the labels are the same for every tape and do not match the contents). I also found one with some folks that sound Australian (maybe) troubleshooting something.

      I imagine "T880" is a tape label (I get 24 audio tracks for that one), followed by which Historical Recorder was used and potentially which reel on the recorder (U and L look a lot like Upper/Lower to me), then the channel. Unsure on the timestamp, except it appears to be sequential (T889 has channel 17 from 01-42-10_10-12-10 and 10-12-10_18-21-28, but there is silence in the first and talking in the second).

    3. Re:Is there a key to understanding the tapes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Its the bonus edition, with all the studio outtakes and blooper's reel.

      Some of it is hilarious - like the bit where the dog starts barking just as Neil Armstrong is talking about one small step and Armstrong is afraid the dog is going to bite him...

    4. Re:Is there a key to understanding the tapes? by Megane · · Score: 2

      That "data" recording sure sounds like telemetry. It even seems to have some regular structure to it that you would expect from telemetry. Looking at the waveform, it's a 1KHz carrier with amplitude modulation. Out of every 10 waves, either 2, 5, or 8 of them are higher amplitude, so it's a 100 baud signal. The 8-wave pulses may be framing, because they are every tenth burst, but sometimes the first of the other 9 bursts is also 8 waves.

      The problem is that if it is telemetry, it may be impossible to determine what the data means without knowing what produced it. It is also likely that even then, the base value and scale can't be determined without finding original documentation. As an example, here is what the AMSAT 7 Oscar telemetry looked like, and that apparently even used ASCII to encode individual characters. It would be impossible to determine those equations, much less what each value represents, without having the original documentation.

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  4. You know you're getting old... by The+Original+CDR · · Score: 1

    When people will spend the next year talking about an event that took place three weeks before you were born.

    1. Re:You know you're getting old... by rossdee · · Score: 1

      You're a youngster

      A couple of days before I was born, the space age started with the launch of Sputnik

    2. Re:You know you're getting old... by Topwiz · · Score: 1

      I was 8 and watched all the tv broadcasts.

    3. Re:You know you're getting old... by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      I was actually 3 then - and not aware that it was happening at the time.

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    4. Re:You know you're getting old... by sconeu · · Score: 1

      I was 6 and glued to the coverage.

      Of course, my dad was working Apollo, but I was a space geek even back then.

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    5. Re:You know you're getting old... by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      Ten at the time. I remember sitting on the couch, wrapped up in a blanket, watching it on TV.

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    6. Re:You know you're getting old... by dargaud · · Score: 1

      I was just a few days old and my parents were so tired because of me that they slept through the landing... :-(

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  5. That will give me something to listen to by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    for the next 2 years straight.

  6. This is good and all ... by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

    ... but how about finding the original tapes?

    How the fuck do you LOSE one of the most important events in (modern) human history ???

    1. Re:This is good and all ... by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      Gosh, you moon-hoaxers are almost as bad as flat-earthers.

      I've always suspected none (or almost none) of the flat-earthers actually believe the earth is a big pie plate.

      They're just trolling us for fun, right?

      I mean, get in a plane at the equator and fly east or west. Eventually, after some refueling stops, you'll wind up back where you started.

      How does that happen with a "flat earth?"

    2. Re:This is good and all ... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      The answer to that question (and many others) is in the FAQ:

      https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequent...

      Please read it before wasting any more of people's valuable time.

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    3. Re:This is good and all ... by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 2

      See, that comedy FAQ proves flat-earthers don't actually believe this nonsense are trolling us for fun.

      Take circumnavigation. If you're really circling a pie plate like they suggest with that picture, it would take longer at the edge and than would at the middle.

      Plainly, on earth it doesn't. Assuming the same velocity, it's much quicker to circle the 60th parallel than it is the equator. Easily proven by getting in a plane.

    4. Re:This is good and all ... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Headwinds and tailwinds make a huge difference to flight times.

      Down at ground level: Any sailor knows that a trip around the south pole is a very long and difficult journey.

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    5. Re:This is good and all ... by TigerPlish · · Score: 1

      The answer to that question (and many others) is in the FAQ:

      Wait. One. Minute. You're telling me that flat-earthers believe the earth is flat but the *other* planets are round?

      That's it. I've lost *all* hope for humanity.

      I imagined the flat-earthers thought the other planets were also flat disks... what.. I can't even... *zzzzzt* x.x

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    6. Re:This is good and all ... by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      If you took off in a jet at the equator and circumnavigated the earth at 500mph the flight would take you 50 hours.

      If you did the same thing at 60 degrees south latitude, the 500mph circumnavigation (at the same altitude) would take you 24 hours - Less than half the time.

      (At 70 degrees south you could do it in 17 hours.)

      Even with the strongest hurricane-force headwinds / tailwinds ever seen on earth it would still be much faster at 60 degrees south than at the equator.

      Again, easily provable by taking off in an airplane, while wearing a wristwatch and using your throttle to keep your groundspeed at 500mph, regardless of headwinds / tailwinds.

      Proves flat-earthers really aren't that dumb - They're just taunting us.

      Down at ground level: Any sailor knows that a trip around the south pole is a very long and difficult journey.

      Of course - many more variables. It's why you need to use an airplane at a set altitude.

    7. Re:This is good and all ... by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      Gosh, you moon-hoaxers are almost as bad as flat-earthers.

      Screw the moon-hoaxer idiots. Lets just get to the part where the astronauts meet the aliens....

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  7. 19,000 hours? does not compute by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

    The Apollo 11 mission lasted about 8 days and 4 hours. Assuming the 30 tracks of audio mentioned in TFA were recorded continuously throughout the mission, that's still only about 5,880 hours of audio. I wonder where the rest of it is coming from. Phone calls? Candid discussions? Pre- and post-launch communications? That's a lot of extra audio.

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    1. Re:19,000 hours? does not compute by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 3, Informative

      I wonder where the rest of it is coming from.

      From -

      https://www.sciencealert.com/n...

      The hours and hours of audio encompasses every single communication between the astronauts, mission control and back-room support staff during the entire mission.

    2. Re:19,000 hours? does not compute by gazelam · · Score: 1

      Is the back room where the support staff ordered the pizza? Which track has that record? What about the track with the switchboard calls from the astronauts' groupies? That's gotta be interesting, right?

    3. Re:19,000 hours? does not compute by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      Backroom staff that got on the phone or a headset to talk with the mission control guys in headsets.

  8. The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles -- with the same side facing us all the time -- is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!)

    Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors .. the next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt .45 and a .38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you.

    Of course, this all works fine during the day, but what about at night? Even the liberals can't control the rotation of the Earth to prevent nightfall from setting in (only Joshua was able to ask for that particular favor!) That's where the "moon" comes in. Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night!

    Yes, I know this probably sounds paranoid and preposterous, but consider this. Despite what the revisionist historians tell you, there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents -- anywhere -- before 1950. That is when it was initially launched. When President Josef Kennedy, at the State of the Union address, proclaimed "We choose to go to the moon", he may as well have said "We choose to go to the weather balloon." The subsequent faking of a "moon" landing on national TV was the first step in a long history of the erosion of our constitutional rights by leftists in this country. No longer can we hide from our government when the sun goes down.

    1. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nice try, but it just isn't possible to write Satire anymore. This sounds just like Fox News.

    2. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by mark-t · · Score: 2

      Nice illustration of Poe's Law

    3. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by lgw · · Score: 1

      This is awesome. This copypasta has been around for may years, but someone has made an effort to keep it somewhat current, politically. Kudos to that troll!

      Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night!

      Pure genius.

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  9. Thousands? by aglider · · Score: 1

    24 hours a day times 10 days is 240 hours...

    Even if you record all three astronauts reparately you get 720 hours...

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    1. Re:Thousands? by martinX · · Score: 1

      EARTH HAS 4 CORNER SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE WITHIN SINGLE ROTATION.

      I am a Knower of 4 corner simultaneous 24 hour Days that occur within a single 4 corner rotation of Earth.

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    2. Re:Thousands? by EndlessNameless · · Score: 1

      If you have 10 people carrying on separate conversations, you can have 5 conversations going at the same time. You end up with 5 hours of recorded conversation for every hour on the clock.

      NASA didn't just record the astronauts. A lot of conversation from mission control was recorded. Two people on the ground talking to each other might not be glamorous, but it could be very important.

      It's very easy to throw out data that you don't need, but it's impossible to recover details of a conversation that both sides have forgotten.

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  10. Re:19,000 hours? There were Aliens by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    only $2.99 per min + toll costs

  11. More mission recordings when? by PPH · · Score: 2

    I want to hear the Apollo 18 tapes.

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  12. More approachable version by Brett+Buck · · Score: 3, Informative

    Try here:

    https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/

    and here:

    https://history.nasa.gov/afj/

          where they have listened extensively to many of the tapes, and transcribed and added explanations. If you want to know what was going on live, that is the place to start.

  13. The reason it took so long... by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 1

    Negotiating the rights with the Kubrick estate was a giant legal mess... (j/k)

  14. Gnorts Mr Alien by twosat · · Score: 1

    Try spelling Neil Armstrong backwards!

  15. The critical fucking moon landing moments by TreeDork · · Score: 2

    The critical two minutes of recording are already published here on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  16. Stating the obvious by Askmum · · Score: 1

    One of the things that comes across is that each of the people working for NASA is proud of what they do. They were always working collaboratively,"

    Really? I would never have thought that. I always thought NASA was a backstabbing lying organisation where each and every employee was out to get the other one and where nothing ever went right because everyone was only doing their own thing.
    Huh. Guess I was wrong.

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  18. Conspiracy theory by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Again, easily provable by taking off in an airplane, while wearing a wristwatch and using your throttle to keep your groundspeed at 500mph, regardless of headwinds / tailwinds.

    and their crack-pot theory probably goes something along the lines that it's hard to follow a straight line un-aided, and all the guidance systems (such as GPS are a vast conspiracy of collaborating agencies).

    The instruments of the plane, and your wristwatch are probably similarly affected by a micro-conspiracy of nano-midgets hidden inside them, or something.

    (I just can't imagine WHAT conspiracy is also haunting your sextant to make star navigation also similarly impossible.
    Is it haunted by the ghosts of the former conspirator how burned down Rome ? Antikythera proves it ?)

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    1. Re:Conspiracy theory by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      and their crack-pot theory probably goes something along the lines that it's hard to follow a straight line un-aided

      Well, their crackpot pie-plate theory already requires that earth's magnetism behaves in some sort of crazy way.

      If you take off from a point on the earth and fly due-west at a constant altitude above sea level, you'll fly in a straight line, eventually winding up back where you started.

      Their theory (to explain circumnavigation and why you'd wind up back where you started) is that you'd fly in a circle around the circumference of the pie plate. So for that to happen, somehow "west" has to steer you in a perfect circle, not straight, regardless of the radius of the circle you're trying to fly, i.e. "west" at 5 degrees of latitude would be a different arc than "west" at 60 degrees.

      So they *must* just be trolling us. No one can possibly be this stupid.

    2. Re:Conspiracy theory by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      I'm sure they have some rational explanation why I can never see the Southern Cross from Minnesota?

      The flat-earth morons attempt to explain it, but you can tell their heart's not really in it...

      https://www.theflatearthsociet...