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Rideshare Boycott Sparked By Murders In China (theatlantic.com)

Following a string of murders by drivers of China's top ridesharing app, Didi Chuxing, users are deleting the app in large numbers and calling for others to boycott the service. According to The Atlantic, "the hashtag #BoycottDidi on Weibo has garnered more than 1 million views." From the report: Over the weekend, the driver confessed to local police to raping and stabbing his 20-year-old passenger on her way to a friend's birthday party. The murder is the second in three months -- this May, a young flight attendant was killed by her Didi driver. It is the third in a year -- last May, according to Caixin Global, another woman was strangled and killed by her driver. And it is the fourth in two years -- the year before that, a female teacher was robbed and killed after threats from her driver.

"As a platform, we have disappointed the public's trust in us and cannot shirk this responsibility," Didi said in a statement, admitting to failing to react quickly to another passenger's complaint filed against the driver the day before the murder. The rideshare company has suspended its Hitch services (as it did after the last murder) and fired two senior executives, one in charge of Hitch, its intercity carpooling service, and the other in charge of customer service. The Didi president, Jean Liu, oft-regarded as a hero for Chinese women in business, issued an apology on Tuesday. China's government is now cracking down on reform across the transportation sector.

76 comments

  1. They allowed drivers to rate passengers appearance by Ritual · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I heard that the problem came down to drivers being allowed to add notes to each customers profile of how attractive they were. Predator drivers would then selectively choose passengers based on their appearance score, and then rape them. After it happened the first few times the company did not make any changes to their app, and I guess it started to become a repeat problem. Something tells me because its China that there are probably a lot more rapes and murders that don't get reported on because of the whole cultural thing of trying to keep up appearances. I don't know how much rape and sexual assault occurs in China, but it must be pretty bad if this started a rebellion against the company because that in itself is pretty rare in a country like China. Usually dissent is not something allowed.

  2. Not the CEO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why was not the CEO/President fired?

    1. Re:Not the CEO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why was not the CEO/President fired?

      The president is a woman.

  3. Why only in China? by sad_ · · Score: 1

    never crossed my mind, that ridesharing could bring you in contact dangerous people like rapists and murderers, which was perhaps naive of me.
    however, i wonder why this is such a big problem in China, i never hear about uber rapes/murders in US/EU.

    must admit that i've never used these services, so can somebody explain how they prevent these things from happening?

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    1. Re:Why only in China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There have been crimes, but I think they have so far been limited (if you can use such a word) to violence, sexual harrassment, theft and illegal videotaping.

    2. Re:Why only in China? by blindseer · · Score: 1

      however, i wonder why this is such a big problem in China, i never hear about uber rapes/murders in US/EU.

      I've heard of rapes and murders related to Uber, taxi services, and the like, before in the USA. It's usually the driver that's the victim though. You can run the drivers through a background check but the passengers then become the unknown factor.

      It's not like background checks are infallible. I've heard of people passing background checks only to buy guns and shoot up schools and churches. I've seen outright criminal behavior, or just plain creepy behavior that might not technically be illegal, by police, fire, teachers, military, and so on that passed background checks. Even so a background check will reduce repeats of bad behavior.

      Oh, and often I hear people mocking the USA on its high prison population. Well, the tendency for the USA to put criminals in prison, and keep them there for a while, might be why such incidents are rare. Think about that.

      must admit that i've never used these services, so can somebody explain how they prevent these things from happening?

      They learned to do criminal checks on people after some drivers were caught molesting women. I recall reading about at least one of these incidents on Slashdot before. My guess is that in the USA young women are able to easily obtain OC spray, knives, handguns, stun guns, and other tools of self defense with relative ease, and the low life scum that might consider taking advantage of these women think twice before trying anything.

      It appears that Uber and Lyft ban passengers and drivers from being armed but there's no real way to enforce that. My guess is that the low life scum know this as well.

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    3. Re:Why only in China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The most hardened gangster wouldnt sell poisoned baby food just to make a nickel - but it's business as usual for the Chinese.

      The Chinese do not value human life the way the west does.

    4. Re:Why only in China? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 3, Insightful

      never crossed my mind, that ridesharing could bring you in contact dangerous people like rapists and murderers, which was perhaps naive of me. however, i wonder why this is such a big problem in China, i never hear about uber rapes/murders in US/EU.

      Is it a big problem?

      It is the third in a year

      How big is this rideshare service in China? How big is China? What is the murder rate overall? What is the murder rate from taxi drivers?

      I mean, it might be a big problem (relative to other problems; obviously all murder is a problem). It would take some context to know if it is though.

    5. Re:Why only in China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The most hardened gangster wouldnt sell poisoned baby food just to make a nickel - but it's business as usual for the Chinese.

      The Chinese do not value human life the way the west does.

      It goes further than what you said above.

      The Chinese lack any sort of moral code.

      I've known a bunch of Chinese, and they are awful people to deal with. They cannot be trusted and they seem to have no understanding
      of basic concepts of right and wrong. I avoid dealing with them at all costs now, based on quite a bit of experience.

    6. Re:Why only in China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There have been several such cases in the US. I think it was just last year an Uber driver killed a passenger with a hammer. There was a shooting one last year too. Likely it isn't something you pay attention to. They were in the news where I am because they were local. But they were hyped pretty well on the internet too.

    7. Re:Why only in China? by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      I seem to recall India having serious issues with this too though...

    8. Re:Why only in China? by dryeo · · Score: 1

      Your guesses don't cover the EU or other places like Canada that don't have such high prison populations and women aren't usually armed.

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    9. Re:Why only in China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.whosdrivingyou.org/rideshare-incidents

    10. Re:Why only in China? by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Oh, and often I hear people mocking the USA on its high prison population. Well, the tendency for the USA to put criminals in prison, and keep them there for a while, might be why such incidents are rare. Think about that.

      Except they aren't. The US murder rate is amongst the highest in the world (as is the suicide rate), especially in the big cities. Compare it with other western nations, even Canada (who is probably the closest culturally to the US) and obviously something is wrong.

      The prison population is large because most offenders in there are nonviolent ones, tossed in jail because of war on drugs and the like, coupled with a for-profit prison system ensuring that the more you house, the closer the CEO gets to this next new yacht/plane/mansion/etc.

      There are places where the rate is lower. Some are authoritarian like Singapore, where dealing drugs is an instant death penalty (and if you're cynical, so is speaking out against government or "disrupting law and order').

    11. Re:Why only in China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The US murder rate is amongst the highest in the world (as is the suicide rate), especially in the big cities.

      This is due almost exclusively to retard ammosexuals

    12. Re:Why only in China? by ewibble · · Score: 1

      What nonsense of course they have a moral code, it maybe different but they have one.

      Here are the stats (wikipedia) on murder for china 0.62 per 100,0000 people the USA is 5.35 per 100,0000.

      Just because their morals don't match yours does not mean they have none. Based on the statistics and not your personal biased opinion (since everyone's opinion is biased) you could argue that the US has much less morals than China. Assuming your moral code says murder is bad.

    13. Re:Why only in China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1998: Never get in a car with a stranger, and don't trust anyone you meet on the internet!

      2018: Use the internet for the express purpose of summoning a car to get into with a stranger in it.

      Captcha: playtime

    14. Re:Why only in China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/murder/reported murder/g

      Also, your statistics must not go back too far. In 1957, Mao Zedong killed 45 million people out of a population of 600 million - 7500 per 100,000. In 1989 the Chinese government killed possibly 10,000 people out of a city population of 24 million, for a death rate of 42 per 100,0000.

      Of course, the official Chinese government estimate of both those death tolls is 0.

    15. Re:Why only in China? by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I have been to prison, for a violent crime. I did my time I learned my lesson. However I met a lot of people that should not have been to prison. One instance is a celly I had that happened to be a Limo/Taxi driver, he occasionally did meth. He got divorced from his wife before that happened(or so he says, there's a saying you can look it up). He was in a custody battle, and his ex wife found out about him doing drugs. He got drug tested and failed, The child was out of state, He had a shitty lawyer(who probably had backroom deals set up) and convinced him to take some plea deal over it saying he was only gonna get probation. He ended up with a 14-30 month(Give or take, in Nevada they do a 40%/100% front number structure) sentence. His conviction was "Child Endangerment".

    16. Re:Why only in China? by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      True, the scummy rat gangsters would though.

    17. Re:Why only in China? by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Yes people do crazy shit. Especially people with a lot of time on their hands(Uber drivers and the such).

    18. Re:Why only in China? by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Yep, How the world has changed...

  4. As a free market capitalist... by blindseer · · Score: 1

    This is the kind of outcome I would expect in an unregulated industry. That doesn't mean we need government involvement, but it does mean some kind of assurance to the customers of a product that is safe.

    I remember a short anecdote of a vegetable farmer being interviewed on the topic of government inspectors. He said the government inspectors he could handle, it was the inspectors from the restaurants and grocers that were brutal. Where's the equivalent on this new trend in taxi services? Is there a way to check on the drivers beyond a checkbox on the app on not being murdered on the way to one's destination?

    What is just maddening about this was the comment in one of the articles on how we shouldn't have to expect women to defend themselves but instead expect men to not abuse women. Well, sorry folks, that's simply not going to happen. People will have to be able to defend themselves, men and women, because not everyone looks at the social contract on good behavior with the same eyes. Should men behave themselves? Absolutely. When (not if) one of them don't then they should expect a face full of OC spray, a few grams of lead sent at great speed into vital organs, a several thousand volt surprise, or some other means to deter their crimes. Just knowing that such defensive measures are possible have a deterrent effect on their own.

    I do see free market forces at work. If this company can't get it's act together and make people feel safe using their services then I can expect them to go out of business. If you want a cheap ride then you can take your chances with a company that doesn't check out their drivers before sending them to pick you up.

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    1. Re:As a free market capitalist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      After enough murders and rapes people will stop using the service (as they are now) - the free market works!

    2. Re:As a free market capitalist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same thing happens with regulated Taxi service. I happen to be in a city where the taxi drivers have been known to do similar things.

      Of course, the outcome is different. In the case of Taxis, the government doesn't change a thing. They think their regulation scheme is fine and the taxi driver's wouldn't have it. After all, change is hard and you haven't a choice anyways.

      In the case of a non-government regulated service, they either change or end up out of business.

    3. Re:As a free market capitalist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Meanwhile, in the US, we are attempting to prevent women under 21 from obtaining firearms and concealed carry permits.
      I'll leave it up to you to figure out why some people think that is a good idea.

    4. Re: As a free market capitalist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Found the Russian troll

    5. Re: As a free market capitalist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found the rapist.

    6. Re:As a free market capitalist... by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      "Unregulated" taxi services do as much vetting of their drivers as regulated ones do: not much.

    7. Re:As a free market capitalist... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I do see free market forces at work. If this company can't get it's act together and make people feel safe using their services then I can expect them to go out of business. If you want a cheap ride then you can take your chances with a company that doesn't check out their drivers before sending them to pick you up.

      I do wonder about these stories ... I mean, murder is obviously already illegal.

      Do taxi medallions have some special anti-murder properties, to make regular taxis safer than these services?

    8. Re: As a free market capitalist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found the CEO of Didi.

    9. Re:As a free market capitalist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Unregulated" taxi services do as much vetting of their drivers as regulated ones do: not much.

      Are you kidding me? Surely they'll ask their drivers whether they are murderers or not, and then fire all the murderers, thus making everyone safer.

    10. Re:As a free market capitalist... by blindseer · · Score: 1

      I do wonder about these stories ... I mean, murder is obviously already illegal.

      And people do illegal things. When it comes to women getting abused and murdered it may be wise for women to protect themselves against law breakers. I suggest getting one of those noise makers that can get people's attention. I understand Smith and Wesson makes a nice one, called the "LadySmith". It can carry 5 noise making cartridges in a compact and simple to operate device. It's not exactly cheap but I have seen it get very good reviews.

      Do taxi medallions have some special anti-murder properties, to make regular taxis safer than these services?

      Yes, and no. Nothing "magical" about them but the government that issues them will keep an eye on the owners, and the people that own the medallions aren't likely to be fly by night losers that kill their passengers. This is merely one means to offer oversight and market forces to keep getting from one place to another safer.

      What's happened is that we're seeing a kind of battle between old taxi services and new business models that provide much the same services. Both will have to adapt to compete and we will all benefit from it.

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    11. Re:As a free market capitalist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do taxi medallions have some special anti-murder properties, to make regular taxis safer than these services?

      Obviously not, there had been serial killing taxi drivers in the past.

      HOWEVER, being a taxi driver usually (depending on where in the world, of course) involve getting into some kind of social network, either you have to get hired by a taxi company, or you have to rent a taxi from some taxi owning company and share the car with other drivers driving shifts throughout the day. So if you want to be one, you need to have to invest some commitment (getting hired, or paying some rent), and thus most taxi driver will have a reason to keep driving (feeding the family or make a living).

      OTOH, these "ride sharing" drivers don't need to make any commitment. Anyone who has a car can be one. It makes the barrier of entry low, and thus there is very little to stop perverts getting in for the main purpose of picking up victims. They don't need to give the car to another driver at the end of a shift, and unlike a taxi they can pick which customer to serve or not serve, so it is easier to arrange picking up victims.

      Yes, those perverts can take the trouble to become a taxi driver, but the barrier is higher and the execution is more difficult.

    12. Re: As a free market capitalist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Turn it back on the taxi drivers and start raping them! They will be forced to change their ways.

    13. Re:As a free market capitalist... by dryeo · · Score: 1

      This is the kind of outcome I would expect in an unregulated industry. That doesn't mean we need government involvement, but it does mean some kind of assurance to the customers of a product that is safe.

      I remember a short anecdote of a vegetable farmer being interviewed on the topic of government inspectors. He said the government inspectors he could handle, it was the inspectors from the restaurants and grocers that were brutal. ...

      The government inspectors are probably looking at health concerns such as bacteria, easy to pass by being clean, whereas the grocers etc are probably looking for blemishes, size and colour, something harder to pass. The free market often decides that looks are more important then other things and the same thing is likely to happen with ride sharing, more important to have a nice car and be clean cut and not look like a criminal. Things like this boycott will hopefully change what they inspect for.

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    14. Re:As a free market capitalist... by sarren1901 · · Score: 1

      You don't really think the medallion holder is actually DRIVING the car do you? Get real. The owner is just that. The owner. They pay some slob to drive and then rake in most of the profits.

    15. Re:As a free market capitalist... by ewibble · · Score: 1

      Yes because the moment a woman feels threatened by you she has every right to turn around and shoot you.

      Guess what when more people walk around with weapons everybody is less safe.

      If you are a rational thief and you think the person you are robbing has a gun you shoot them, if you think they are unarmed you let them live because its less of a crime.

      Same with rape, if you think the person are raping may have weapon, and you are more likely to get a weapon and use it if you feel threatened, you clearly don't care about the person you are raping

    16. Re: As a free market capitalist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ohh look I found the liberal rapist!!111! I winz!!

    17. Re:As a free market capitalist... by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I used to rob drug dealers.. The ones without guns were an easy lick, I didn't want to have to shoot anyone. But things happen.. And the self preservation part of a human stopped me from robbing known armed drug dealers when I didn't have to.

  5. Re:A good pretext for excluding foreign companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didi Chuxing really sounds like a foreign company indeed! It's Chinese! ... In China... It's a foreign company operating in a foreign country! It's doubly foreign! Quick we should foreignally ban it somehow!!!!! yay

  6. Re:A good pretext for excluding foreign companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Create a law that forces ...

    Or, create a law that forces individuals to take anti-rape (and anti-murder) measures (in other words, a law that tells them not to stick their dicks and knives into other people), and also get a bunch of people that force the population to comply with that law, like IDK, a police force and prosecutors and judges, or something.

    Novel idea? It has in fact been tried in a number of other jurisdictions. With mixed success, arguably. So I wonder if applying the same idea to companies instead of individuals will have better or worse success...

  7. Are you out of your FUCKING mind? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Create a law that forces companies to take anti-rape measures
    2. Notice your foreign competition does not follow this law
    3. Preemptively ban them from country
    4. Thus protecting your native industry

    Just what the fuck are you talking about??

    That rideshare company is a *CHINESE* company !!

  8. You call that a string of murders? by sabbede · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Four in two years? Given that they have two million drivers, for only four murderers to have slipped through isn't that bad. Relatively.

    As a comparison, http://www.whosdrivingyou.org/...

    1. Re:You call that a string of murders? by Teddy+Beartuzzi · · Score: 1

      "An initiative of the Taxicab Association to 'highlight' the risks of Uber and Lfyt". AKA they're intentionally not listing taxi incidents, because they don't actually give a damn about rider safety, just protecting their own members.

    2. Re:You call that a string of murders? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Four murders that they are publicly admitting to in a culture that represses honest discussion about any embarrassing topic. It's not statistically sound, but nothing you get out of China can be. Might want to lower that bar a bit. Six sigma is not available.

  9. Re:A good pretext for excluding foreign companies by alvinrod · · Score: 1

    That may not even be necessary for China. They already have limitations in place for many industries as to how much of it can be foreign owned. Since a lot of them cap out a 50%, it means that regardless of which company comes out on top, Chinese investors will benefit. There's no point in trying to ban foreign competition when you guarantee that it's actually half-local competition.

  10. Re:They allowed drivers to rate passengers appeara by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The attractiveness score is pretty bad but I don't see how this should lead to rapes. Why would a rapist use a system that knows exactly who they are, where they are, bank account details etc. to find someone to rape? They will 100% be identified and prosecuted. I guess they either dont care if they are caught or assume the woman will not speak up? Just seems odd to me but perhaps its because I am sane, prison fearing and like consensual sex.

  11. what about the same background checks that taxi dr by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    what about the same background checks that taxi drivers need need to have? and Yes that means uber and lift as well.

  12. This what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you let Clinton and Soros money into country. Mysterius murders and left wing politics gone mad.

  13. You can't spell Murder without uber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did I Chuxing?

  14. No way by fluffernutter · · Score: 0

    My kids will never be using one of these illegitimate "services".

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    1. Re:No way by 110010001000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, good idea. That way they don't run a 0.000000000000001% change of getting murdered by one of the drivers.

  15. fuck you, atari wins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Atari game console is the best, where else can I fly planes resembling turds around? It's so much better than modern flight simulators. I like the sound effects, too.. still cutting edge!

    1. Re: fuck you, atari wins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The amount of fun and entertainment packed into those tiny roms is amazing. You are lucky to have any texture beyond a square. Enjoy that trip through gaming history.

  16. One exception by alternative_right · · Score: 1

    There's no point in trying to ban foreign competition when you guarantee that it's actually half-local competition.

    If you want total control, having a domestic company which does not report its statistics outside your borders can be helpful. A regime may wish to avoid ride-sharing that allows people to attend demonstrations or get to forbidden locations, for example.

  17. "Rideshare"? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    Surely you mean "taxi"?

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  18. Long-term misogyny going full tilt. by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    No surprise here. For ages China and India have treated women as second and third grade citizens to the point that anyone who can afford it aborts pregnancies with female babies, because the dowry and other duties coming with female offspring are a measurable burden on families.

    China has a male to female ratio of two to one in some places due to the one child policy having everyone aim for a male son.
    Same thing in India.

    I've seen this coming for decades and it's going to get worse. A lot worse, amplified by male sexual frustration. That has been my hunch for quite some time now anyway.

    My 2 eurocents.

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    1. Re:Long-term misogyny going full tilt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you'd examine the statistics year by year over the last 40 years of family planning, you'd realize your tale is almost two decades old. Stop regurgitating headlines from the past, grandpa.

    2. Re:Long-term misogyny going full tilt. by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      For ages China and India have treated women as second and third grade citizens

      Sure. But NOT treating women like 2nd/3rd class citizens (or chattel) is a recent development. At least when you start talking about "ages". Remember that whole "witch burning" phenomenon in Europe? But now they have rights and can vote and stuff. Just not in China, that'd be silly, none of them vote over there.

      China has a male to female ratio of two to one in some places due to the one child policy having everyone aim for a male son.

      China, at birth: 1.15 male(s)/female (2015)

      In the USA, 2010, At birth: 1.048 male or female

      America has a male to female ratio of about 15 to 1 in some places due to the fact none of them want to be software engineers.

      Same thing in India.

      Well it's certainly not exactly the same in India, they don't have a 1-child policy.

      A 2011 census had a ratio of births was 1.09. So... about halfway between the US and China.

      Thing is about all this, historically when there's a big sexual imbalance, the thing nations did with all those extra people was to send them to war. But things have changed since then.

    3. Re:Long-term misogyny going full tilt. by WhiplashII · · Score: 1

      But things have changed since then.

      Citation required

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    4. Re:Long-term misogyny going full tilt. by HeckRuler · · Score: 1
  19. Re:They allowed drivers to rate passengers appeara by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0

    You kidding me? That rating thing never happened. Are you a journalist or something? Rape is a crime of violence against women, it has nothing to do with attractiveness.

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  20. Re:They allowed drivers to rate passengers appeara by Guppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Didi did more than allow an appearance-rating system to emerge. Apparently, they recruited male drivers using suggestive ads, hinting that hook-ups and relationships with female passengers could be a possibility, and promoted a case where a male driver who ended up marrying one of his female passengers.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/0...

  21. Re: They allowed drivers to rate passengers appear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Says the incel fag.

    No one wants to rape some fat ugly bitch.

  22. Relative risk by BenBoy · · Score: 1

    Subtracting the emotional aspect (which I myself find non-trivial), I wonder what the actual risk of death is versus, say, death by auto accident, particularly if drinking is involved. I'm not trying to present this as a dichotomy ... you could also, say, take a regular cab, or not drink to excess before driving, or walk, or ... There's never a good control group around when I need 'em :-)

  23. Re:They allowed drivers to rate passengers appeara by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not really dissent, by merely deleting an app. And protests like this happen more often than you think.

  24. Activism in China by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

    Hmmmm, "activism in China".... That historically hasn't gone very well. At least any time a story got news worthy enough to jump the ocean so we actually hear about it. But this isn't against the government, but rather against a chinese company. And the government is, essentially, participating with regulation lockdowns as you'd expect a functioning government to do when there's troubles.

    But it'll be interesting if the masses start to realize that they have power and can change things.

  25. Kalanick by guygo · · Score: 1

    Sounds like Kalanick found a new place to work... for a while.

  26. Darn rapists are everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Hurt’s account, Trump was furious that a “scalp reduction” operation he’d undergone to eliminate a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful. Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. In retaliation, Hurt wrote, Trump yanked out a handful of his wife’s hair, and then forced himself on her sexually. Afterward, according to the book, she spent the night locked in a bedroom, crying; in the morning, Trump asked her, “with menacing casualness, ‘Does it hurt?’” Trump has denied both the rape allegation and the suggestion that he had a scalp-reduction procedure. Hurt said that the incident, which is detailed in Ivana’s deposition, was confirmed by two of her friends.

    1. Re:Darn rapists are everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Billybob's account, Mary Sue had told him to to go out for bread and milk. In response, Billybob wrote, he did so. During which, according to the book, an alien craft descended and abducted him. He spent what felt like decades on the craft, only to be returned to Earth at the same moment he had been taken. Billybob said that the incident, which is detailed in Mary Sue's deposition, was confirmed by two of his friends.

      See? Anyone can write anything in a quote. Doesn't make it worth anything.

      captcha: earthen

    2. Re:Darn rapists are everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except unlike your example, mine is backed up by court records and sworn testimony from Ivana.

      Bury your head in the sand all you like, makes it easier to keep kicking your dumb ass.

  27. Re:A good pretext for excluding foreign companies by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    Have you ever thought maybe killing people is fun?

  28. It's in the name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really, you make a company called "Die Die" and then you're surprised when the drivers kill people?

  29. Re:They allowed drivers to rate passengers appeara by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anybody can be raped, I don't think there is a definition anywhere saying the word only applies to women.
    Narrow minded much?