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Microsoft Removes Device Install Limits For Office 365 Subscribers (engadget.com)

Starting October 2nd, Office 365 Home users will no longer be restricted to 10 devices across five users and Personal subscribers will no longer have a limit of one computer and one tablet. The catch is that you can only stay signed in on five devices at once. Engadget reports: Meanwhile, Home users can let another person use the productivity suite through their account, with Microsoft bumping up the number of licenses per subscriber from five to six. Each user has access to Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook and OneNote, along with 1TB of individual storage. Microsoft is also integrating Home subscriptions with its family service, so you can automatically share your Office 365 plan with people you've set up as family members. Elsewhere, you'll manage your subscription from within your Microsoft account settings from now on.

78 comments

  1. Same with WIndows 10 by Billly+Gates · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you go into the device settings -> accounts -> manage -> your account -> will open your hotmail/outlook account and you can unassign WIndows 10 Pro from 1 device to another.

    It is a great way to save money.

    1. Re:Same with WIndows 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      The rampant trump troll forgot to hit 'Post Anonymously'.

    2. Re:Same with WIndows 10 by TigerPlish · · Score: 1, Informative

      The rampant trump troll forgot to hit 'Post Anonymously'.

      The funny thing is, if you click on his username, slashdot barfs and says the user doesn't exist. Why is that?

      Yes, I'm aware the user in question is not the real BeauHD......... or is it? Who the fuck knows.

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    3. Re:Same with WIndows 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but this requires you to associate your windows install to an online microsoft account, which requires personal details many are unwilling to share. so you're really not 'saving' money, just paying with your privacy instead.. which is what microsoft wants you to get used to doing.

      i'd rather not tie windows to an online microsoft account; and i use openoffice instead, since you can no longer acquire and install microsoft office without one either.

    4. Re:Same with WIndows 10 by toadlife · · Score: 1

      The funny thing is, if you click on his username, slashdot barfs and says the user doesn't exist. Why is that?

      Looks like a bug in the site code. Perhaps the special characters in the username getting scrubbed at the wrong time, causing the lookup to fail.

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    5. Re:Same with WIndows 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The real question is when will Microsoft remove the spyware, adware, patch and reboot limits that they impose upon paying customers?

    6. Re:Same with WIndows 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's "BeauHD (.)" not "BeauHD" are you blind? I've also seen posts by "BeauHD (1)" and thought, does this guy think he's fooling anyone? But low and behold people are always stupider than you think.

    7. Re:Same with WIndows 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TRUMP's NSA spy grid

      Obama's actually.

    8. Re:Same with WIndows 10 by wardrich86 · · Score: 1

      It probably shits the bed because of the non-alphanumeric characters (just like the comments section)

  2. The year by johnsnails · · Score: 1

    The year of office on the desktop

    1. Re:The year by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

      How stupid do you need to be, to pay good money to Microsoft for something you can get for free?

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  3. Who on slashdot gives a fuck about Office365 HOME? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tell me you reddit trolls aren't using a subscription based insecure cloud target for basic desktop WP/SS software, who voted this crapvertisement in?

  4. So when offline = office in limited mode? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    So when offline = office in limited mode?

  5. Re:Who on slashdot gives a fuck about Office365 HO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go back to copy-pasting longPHPcodes, dipshit.

  6. It's called bait and switch by Puls4r · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They're just trying to move people off legacy office. 5 years from now this will go away and it'll be one license one user.

    1. Re: It's called bait and switch by shm · · Score: 2

      Absolutely. I said the same about the "free" Windows 10 upgrade plans and was laughed at. Now look at Windows. Heading inexorably towards a subscription model.

      Apple isn't much better with their push towards ios app subscriptions.

    2. Re:It's called bait and switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most useless comment in this entire discussion and you get modded +4 Interesting. Why do I come back here?

    3. Re: It's called bait and switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can still download Windows 10 for free from Microsoft. You just can't set your wallpaper.

    4. Re: It's called bait and switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You were laughed at because you were an idiot.

      Microsoft: "Upgrade free for a year".

      You: "I bet this won't last for ever - mark my words, it'll cost to upgrade in the future".

      Everyone: *points and laughs*

    5. Re: It's called bait and switch by Locutus · · Score: 1

      THAT is hilarious. I wonder which marketing firm came up with that restriction?

      LoB

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    6. Re: It's called bait and switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How exactly is Windows 10 heading inexorably towards a subscription model?

    7. Re:It's called bait and switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah Slashdot, Microsoft actually doing something good for once? Time to make up a conspiracy theory because M$ is teh evil and always wrong!!11

    8. Re:It's called bait and switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who cares? MS is breaking their Office applications in such pace that their usage is diminishing every year. Only the Outlook and Excel are still somewhat usable, but I bet they will remove the remaining useful features from them soon too.

    9. Re:It's called bait and switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's still effectively that way. You have to remain signed-in to office 356 (Aka click-to-run) versions of office 365. Without an active subscription the installation goes in to read-only mode.365 is software-as-a-service that's tied to the legacy-style desktop app.

      It's kind of pointless to restrict the number of devices with office 365 installations and I suspect the real reason there ever was a restriction in the first place due to internal disputes inside Microsoft itself.

      It's important to note that there are two versions of office - Classic style that uses the classic office installer, gets updates from windows update, and classic activation. (Pretty much required for things like classrooms, and preferred for large orgs)

      The CTR versions have an internal update mechanism separate from windows and rely on office365 (Or a Microsoft account in some cases) for activation.

      Microsoft will probably ditch all classically activated products and go full software-as-a-service before long. I'd guess within 5 years for home, SMB, and Education. Large orgs with big contracts will remain on the old methods until 365 is more mature and 'private cloud' versions can be offered.

      Like or hate it, this is the reality of Microsoft's services. You can always use openoffice(Or one of it's variants) or google's suite.

  7. Just common sense by King_TJ · · Score: 1

    Microsoft should have done this all along. Since it's subscription based, it really no longer benefits them to try to limit how many machines a person has the software installed on. It benefits them more if it exists "anywhere and everywhere possible", so the user will be more likely to maintain a paid subscription because it's "so useful".

    Imagine if some service like Netflix did this, saying you couldn't keep the Netflix software on more than X number of devices at a time without paying for a second subscription? How would that make any sense?

    1. Re:Just common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They should have done this all along but I suspect that they're doing this now so that other members of the household get as much exposure to Office as possible.

      Right now, my kids in elementary and middle school only know Google Docs. This is going to be a big problem for Microsoft in a decade or so when an entire country of kids grow up and all they know is non-Microsoft Office.

    2. Re:Just common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Getting them used to the inferior Google Docs young?

    3. Re:Just common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's what their schools use. They're given assignments through shared Google Docs. Inferior or not, it's good enough.

    4. Re:Just common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not inferior, just shit in different ways.

  8. Still No Custom Domain Support for Email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remove Premium Outlook, claim to reinstate it in Office365 with a key feature stripped. Thanks Microsoft.

  9. Does that mean you can install on 20 device... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

    Does that mean that you can install full Office 365 on 20 devices, and so long as you save locally and not on the cloud, you can use them? Or will some of the devices be in limited functionality mode, only allowing viewing, not even local save?

    1. Re:Does that mean you can install on 20 device... by jezwel · · Score: 1
      O365 periodically phones home to reactivate itself, and without an active & valid licence should drop into read-only mode.
      We set our enterprise 365 install to include Visio and Project, which drop into view-only mode after 7 days from first install if the user is not licensed. Pretty handy just for that as we no longer require viewer programs.

      According to the article:

      The catch is that you can only stay signed in on five devices at once.
      Meanwhile, Home users can let another person use the productivity suite through their account, with Microsoft bumping up the number of licenses per subscriber from five to six

      you will be able to use O365 simultaneously on either 5 or 6 PCs....hmmm.

    2. Re:Does that mean you can install on 20 device... by PPH · · Score: 1

      O365 periodically phones home to reactivate itself,

      So, can't be used within a SCIF.

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    3. Re:Does that mean you can install on 20 device... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      O365 periodically phones home to reactivate itself,

      So, can't be used within a SCIF.

      That's true, but only for the Retail copies. If a big organization rents enough concurrent copies (aka Volume Licensing or VL), it would get a Key Management Server or KMS. It's sort of like a WSUS setup, but for licenses instead of updates. I've heard that the minimum number of licenses is 25. Once 25 clients have requested licenses from the server, it begins doing its job. I have heard Windows Enterprise licenses are good for 180 days and Office licenses are good for 90 days, but I betting newer versions will lower this to 90 and 30, respectively. There could even be ways to convert from VL to Retail and back again.

      If only there was a site with info about mydigitallife. I'm sure they'd have discussions and possibly even projects about this. Alas, that fight club does not exist yet.

  10. Per-user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... no longer be restricted to 10 devices ...

    So the small license packs will have a per-user model, instead of the per device/user model that mega-corporations prefer. A per-user model allows a person to move from multiple SOHO devices to multiple home devices on the one subscription.

    1. Re: Per-user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it wasn't limited by user either we'd only need one license to share across the whole Internet.

  11. Re:Who on slashdot gives a fuck about Office365 HO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would bet a nickel that parent and grandparent are the same anon.

  12. Libre Office is now so good, MSFT can lump it. by shm · · Score: 2

    I have a license on macos which is going to go waste when Mojave is released - 32 bit vs 64 bit - as I have no plans or need to upgrade thanks to LibreOffice.

    Even got my accountant to switch. Those guys are wedded to Excel.

    1. Re:Libre Office is now so good, MSFT can lump it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed.

      So long as you stick with the native, ODF open formats (e.g. odt, .ods, et cetera) and stay away from Microsoft's polluted closed .doc and .docx and .xls and .xlsx et cetera MOOXML proprietary formats, Libre Office at least on Linux is absolutely rock solid.

      Great software. Thanks and kudos to all the Libre Office developers.

    2. Re: Libre Office is now so good, MSFT can lump it. by mSparks43 · · Score: 1

      its getting there, but not quite there yet.
      Tons of consultants justify their fees (and go for lock in to their services) using excel vba. if libreoffice would introduce "javascript for spreadsheets" google docs and office would die the day after.

    3. Re: Libre Office is now so good, MSFT can lump it. by Bert64 · · Score: 2

      LibreOffice already supports javascript macros (and python, and some others too)...

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    4. Re: Libre Office is now so good, MSFT can lump it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tons of consultants justify their fees (and go for lock in to their services) using excel (as a programming platform. If lazy, dumb-ass clients would just just get a clue and make these guys actually write software then we'd all be better off)

      There. Fixed that for you.

  13. Whew. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I fart in Bill Gates' general direction. And shit on his desk. And by the way, Fuck the Zuck.

  14. I run my business using by oldgraybeard · · Score: 4, Interesting

    GNUCash and LibreOffice. But I keep 1 local install Microsoft office lic and have 1 o365 premium account. Why? because my clients are not like me and they are Microsoft users. Their remote servers are all Linux but in their offices they are Microsoft based.

    Just the way of things

    Just my 2 cents ;)

    1. Re:I run my business using by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because libreoffice is garbage and Gnucash is a fucking train wreck.

      Quicken beats the ever loving piss out of Gnutrash because taxes are a thing.

    2. Re:I run my business using by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I left Libreoffice forever the day it started to crash while trying to open a friggin XLS. I prefer Gnumeric or even working with the 'ancient' Lotus 123 (under DOSemu) than to fight with this piece of crap.

    3. Re:I run my business using by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck with your audits

  15. And one with my johnson by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    How am I supposed to get any work done if I can only stay signed into Office 365 on five devices at once?

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  16. OK, here's the deal... by GerryGilmore · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ....any idiot still using Microsoft software absolutely deserves all of these levels of bullshit - and more on the way! - that you are dealing with. FFS, why would any person, much less organization submit to this?!? Is Outlook THAT fucking awesome that you'll give up your IT life/control? Is there any aspect of AD that justifies ridiculous reboots in mid-presentation/whatever-I'm-running-at-the-time?

    Christ on a candle! What does it take for you to at least START breaking your chains of slavery?!?!

    1. Re:OK, here's the deal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because they are prisoners and cannot think for themselves. That's why the Microsoft tie in to exclusive retail installs is so dangerous. Thinkers are rare sheep are everywhere including business people who got promoted just imitating the boss without knowing why.

    2. Re:OK, here's the deal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A linux distro that's supplying full document compatibility with the outside world and a user interface that can be used by computer illiterate people - and under the hood machinery that keeps support calls to a minimum by keeping those illiterate users from messing up their space.

    3. Re:OK, here's the deal... by labnet · · Score: 2

      It's a great question.
      Every time I've tried pushing Libre to staff in 5 minutes they've come back with something that doesn't format right.
      When it costs $100/hr for each of you to be distracted, the cost of the office license becomes insignificant.
      Governments should have forced MS to FULLY open their file format spec, but Billy Gates being the evil prick forces us to pay the MS tax because we all have other more pressing issues to solve.

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    4. Re:OK, here's the deal... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      ....any idiot still using Microsoft software absolutely deserves all of these levels of bullshit - and more on the way!

      They deserve discounts and less restrictions? And more?

      Yeah why would anyone submit to it. It's horrible.

    5. Re:OK, here's the deal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are people still spreading this forced reboots in the middle of your work bullshit? Windows does NOT do that.

    6. Re:OK, here's the deal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ....any idiot still using Microsoft software absolutely deserves all of these levels of bullshit - and more on the way! - that you are dealing with. FFS, why would any person, much less organization submit to this?!? Is Outlook THAT fucking awesome that you'll give up your IT life/control? Is there any aspect of AD that justifies ridiculous reboots in mid-presentation/whatever-I'm-running-at-the-time?

      Truth is MS Windows and Office nowadays provides MUCH better user experience than GNU/Linux.
      There was a time that gnu/linux offered better stability and was fun. Now I get so pissed off when installing/using Linux on desktop. Nothing works at first try. Programs crash all the time. Pain in the ass to install any 3rd party drivers.
      I used to love linux, now I am very happy with Windows 7/10 and use linux only in servers. It will come the time that Windows Server will be much better than linux.

      Christ on a candle! What does it take for you to at least START breaking your chains of slavery?!?!

      Chains of convenience, chains of praticity.

    7. Re:OK, here's the deal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you still have the box your computer came in?

    8. Re:OK, here's the deal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a time that gnu/linux offered better stability and was fun.

      No, GNU/Linux is still able to have uptimes measured in years, as opposed to days. The only way to get Windows 10 to not reboot after a few days is to disable a bunch of critical update systems and cross your fingers.

  17. Nexflix is live vs offline (office apps) now you by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    vNexflix is live vs offline (office apps) now you want to be able to use office in places with no network?? Now if 365 comes with free roaming + free LTE and free airline WIFI then I may buy it.

  18. Older Office is just fine by barc0001 · · Score: 2

    My good old copy of Office 2007 does everything I need. I like buying things once, not renting them as a service.

    1. Re: Older Office is just fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your not buying anyway, why should they care about your preferences.

    2. Re: Older Office is just fine by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      Just because I'm not buying today, doesn't mean I may not be inclined to do so in future. And if you don't offer something that caters to my preferences then when I am in a "buying" state of mind I'll look elsewhere or just not buy at all if nothing suitable is available. I imagine there have been at least some nice usability updates in the last 11 years and maybe in a few more I'd be looking to see what's new, but if my main option is a rental service I'm not that motivated to explore upgrading.

    3. Re:Older Office is just fine by antdude · · Score: 1

      Ditto. I used to use 2K, 2002, and then 2007 for other people who no longer used them. I was still able to reactivate them too on new machines.

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  19. The World Removes Office 365 by Excelcia · · Score: 1

    A better headline would be as given in the subject. I honestly don't see the need for Office at all. And anyone who sniffs the software-as-a-service glue ought to be placed in the same category as those who refuse to vaccinate their kids. Both groups are caving to pressure from those who do not have their best interests in mind, pandering to a concept of dubious value, and creating a worse environment for everyone else.

    1. Re:The World Removes Office 365 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      software-as-a-service is the nu-Mafia protection racket

      "pay us or you lose your data!"

      This is doubly true when you consider cloud software (even if free) such as google docs or autodesk's fusion 360. The only difference is that the actual mobsters just didnt pay enough to their lobbyists.

  20. Translation by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

    Not enough people jumped onto the subscription bandwagon, so we're going to make it look more attractive for a while in order to lure them in.

    Later on, when everyone is safely in pocket, we'll crank up the restrictions again and force everyone to buy more subscriptions because it'll be easier than trying to figure out how to downgrade everyone to a version they can actually own.

    1. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it's probably more that they're getting enough money through subscriptions (they've already admitted to getting massive profits from the scheme) so they can afford to allow more installs per account (no sales are being cannibalized) to keep people locked in (put it on all of your devices, no need to look for an alternative) and encourage stand-alone users to transition to eternal payments (because now you can just mooch off of someone else and stay up to date, which will eventually require OS updates that will break compatibility with the last available stand-alone version once that gets discontinued). They don't need more money, they need to get the holdouts on board to fully normalize subscriptions for everything. You don't win through force, you win by getting everyone to want to be dominated.

  21. Re:Nexflix is live vs offline (office apps) now yo by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

    You can download Netflix content to some devices for offline viewing. I've not used that but I have used Amazon Prime's offline viewing and if I recall you have to 'refresh' once a month or so. I doubt anyone who cares about Office 365 goes more than a month without connecting to the internet, if they wanted to do something similar.

  22. Re: Libre Office is now so good, MSFT can lump it by mSparks43 · · Score: 1

    no.

    such clients typically cannot install software on the computers they use without jumping through a thousand hoops. even "installerless" software requires preauthorisation.

    Excel VBA is more like a loophole that lets them order bespoke software without having to get pre approval from IT.

  23. Re: Libre Office is now so good, MSFT can lump it by mSparks43 · · Score: 1

    but without an editor and very (still to) limited debugging and error logging.

    its definately getting there. but i had a check on js after posting and still found literally nothing but unanswered questions, python seems to have slightly better support but still includes warnings that things silently fail, plus requires additional setup on the user side which completely defeats the point.

  24. Office 365 Subscription by jpfulton · · Score: 1

    Yeah, now if Amazon could do the same thing with Kindle.

  25. So nice of them. Forced identification to use an by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    freaking office product? REALLY? Force you to ID yourself to use a freaking office product? REALLY? Oh, spy on you on top of it?

    Use Libre Office

  26. Don't Sound Like a Deal by tuppe666 · · Score: 2

    It's a great question.
    Every time I've tried pushing Libre to staff in 5 minutes they've come back with something that doesn't format right.
    When it costs $100/hr for each of you to be distracted, the cost of the office license becomes insignificant.
    Governments should have forced MS to FULLY open their file format spec, but Billy Gates being the evil prick forces us to pay the MS tax because we all have other more pressing issues to solve.

    This is 2018 and that document most likely does not come from Microsoft Office...Could come from a whole host of Phone Apps, or Google's Office or Apples Office, or even a Different version of Office...It could even have a different printer attached. As someone who works in multiple environments ironically Libreoffice is my goto for compatibility, and when I send a document back its from Libreoffice, and even then I am always on the latest version.

  27. Re: Libre Office is now so good, MSFT can lump it by PPH · · Score: 1

    without having to get pre approval from IT.

    So, not enough cocaine and hookers?

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  28. notepad for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Office Libre works just fine for me thank you. Also OpenOffice, but my preference is notepad.exe

    1. Re:notepad for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know you're probably trolling, but here goes anyway. You should try Notepad++. Everything notepad can do and more. It graciously handles line ends, allows files to be saved/open in whatever char format you want, syntax highlighting, and even has auto-save and multiple levels of undo. With some plugins, it becomes a respectable IDE as well.

      If you don't mind getting binaries from ninite.com, you can get an installer/updater. The developer of Notepad++ updates it at least monthly.

  29. Re: Libre Office is now so good, MSFT can lump it by mSparks43 · · Score: 1

    They're available from the canteen.

  30. Insert totally useless advert for MICROS~1 by najajomo · · Score: 1

    Insert totally useless advert for MICROS~1