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After Making Skype Convoluted and Difficult To Use, Microsoft is Now Rolling Out Features To Restore Simplicity (thurrott.com)

From a report: Microsoft just announced a number of changes the company is rolling out to restore Skype's simplicity and familiarity. When the company introduced the modern Skype, it introduced radical changes that turned the app into an actual, modern app. But of course, that didn't really work too well with some of Skype's classic users. Although Microsoft has made numerous changes to the modern Skype to work better for all users, there were still a bunch of things in the app that no one really needed. And one of that was Highlights -- it was a complete clone of Snapchat where you could post pictures/videos that last for a limited time. Unlike other Snapchat clones like Instagram Stories, no one actually used Skype Highlights. [...] The navigation has been drastically improved, now only consisting of Chats, Calls, and Contacts -- the three core parts of Skype. Along with Highlights, Microsoft's also removed the Capture button which opened the Skype camera -- another useless feature that was already accessible from within chats.

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  1. Microsoft by MikeDataLink · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is honestly Microsoft's biggest UI problem globally with all of their products. And hopefully I can say without getting blasted is why Apple killed the Phone and Tablet markets and Microsoft lost them.

    Microsoft needs to expose a very simplistic UI to users, and let them click a "advanced mode" type of button to expose all the nonsense 99% of the users will never use. Fuck. Apple should do the same thing.

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    1. Re:Microsoft by methano · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "After Making Word Convoluted and Difficult To Use, Microsoft is Now Rolling Out Features To Restore Simplicity"

      THAT's the thing I looking to see.

    2. Re:Microsoft by click2005 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think its too late. Discord is the new Skype.

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    3. Re:Microsoft by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      FYI, Microsoft will eventually deprecate Skype for Business to be replaced by Teams

      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-...

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    4. Re:Microsoft by GNious · · Score: 2

      I've never experienced a Skype call where the audio wasn't utter shite, and now you want it to do video as well?!?

    5. Re:Microsoft by Squash · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Skype for business was Skype in name only. It was a re-branding of their Lync product they felt was necessary after the piles of cash they spent buying Skype.

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    6. Re: Microsoft by aleck7 · · Score: 2

      In IT we call it a lipstick, obviously on a pig.

    7. Re:Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Menus may not be "pretty", but they are an excellent way of sorting the available options in a mostly coherent and discoverable manner that a ribbon, a hamburger icon or a random vomit of "is that a button or superfluous decoration" can never hope to achieve.

      Unfortunately, however, pretty is apparently more important than practical, discoverable or user friendly.

    8. Re:Microsoft by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Well everyone knows exactly why they had to make the interface convoluted and confusing, to hide the privacy invasive features, where they monitor you calls and analyse them for keywords, and replace them with more suitable advertiser friendly words. Maybe also calling people on your contacts list pretending to be you to sell them what ever.

      You know the configuration, that is buried in the bowels of the software, behind 6 different menus, and then behind the configuration warning that you house might blow up if you change that particular setting and just in case you made the change by accident even after all that, make you confirm it three times with more emphatic house blowing up warnings each and every time and just to make sure, you have to make that configuration change in ten different locations with the same confirmations and warnings, including acknowledging them referring you to your home insurance company with a warning that they should cancel your home insurance policy because you house might blow up.

      Just in case, should you attempt to use Skype in the next thirty days, it will revert to default settings. Not to worry at next upgrade it will revert to default settings any how. M$ because fuck your privacy and fuck you to dare to ask for it. M$ because a pack of cunts will be a pack of cunts.

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  2. How to fix skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1. Restore all the platforms they killed off after acquiring it. It was the defacto standard because it was everywhere. (Linux, tvs, etc)
    2. Simplify the client
    3. improve call quality. It's absolute garbage at work.
    4. Lower bandwidth requirements by using some decent codecs.
    5. Make screen sharing actually work on macs. You shouldn't have to reshare 3 times for everyone to see the damn picture.
    6. Don't make skype for business a crappy Lync variant and restore the original skype client.

    1. Re:How to fix skype by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

      Reading your post gave me brain cancer. But congrats on spelling "Skype" three different ways in a single sentence.

      "I’m not shore"
      "dropping odf skyp our hat"
      "to to wit regulations"
      "reqiereing calls terminated"
      "there where kegal reasons"
      "Gatways wit enugh capasety"
      "not en op in a 95% chance og geting busy due to caoasety"

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  3. Simple - Skype Classic by WhoBeDaPlaya · · Score: 2

    Just bring back the classic Skype UI, and take old Yeller (Skype for Business) out back and shoot it. Yes, I am still running 7.38.0.101 (classic UI, everything still works), but who knows how long that will remain supported?

  4. Translation by Gavagai80 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    New Skype removed many of the features of classic Skype (at least on Linux it sure did), but there were still a few features left. Now we're going to remove the rest of the features, and just for fun we're going to call the removal of features a feature!

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    1. Re:Translation by Deep+Esophagus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ^ This.

      "Restore simplicity" addresses a problem that doesn't exist. The current UI, particularly in Skype For Linux, is excessive simplicity. I can't configure different audio devices for alerts and voice chat. I can't configure different sounds for different events. I can't configure enabling audio alerts when a reply comes in to a conversation that has focus -- meaning if Skype is in the background and I'm doing something else, I never know there's a reply until hours later.

      I had all of those features and more before MSFT bought Skype. I want them back.

  5. By discord the greatest are destroyed by raymorris · · Score: 2

    By union the smallest states thrive. By discord the greatest are destroyed.

    Small communities grow great through harmony, great ones fall to pieces through discord.

    Salust circa 60 BC

  6. "Advanced Mode" by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 5, Interesting

    > and let them click a "advanced mode"

    "Advanced mode" is always UI speak for "The thing you actually want to do". Let's take the browser I'm typing in for example. The only things I ever want to do in browser settings is (A) Mess with the proxy settings (B) Mess with the certificates and (C) Recover a stored password. Things I don't want to do include everything on the basic settings page of chrome. Everything I might want to do is behind the well obscured "advanced" button.

    It's not just chrome. It's everything on Windows and Macs. Thunderbird, firefox, word, excel, skype etc. etc.
    At least I have Linux and it's all in a dotfile in my home directory or etc.
     

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    1. Re:"Advanced Mode" by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 2

      Those things you do frequently. Most people don't do that ever. Basic mode is the stuff everyone needs to find quickly, yes even if they just use it once.

  7. Smart decision by iampiti · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...remove features that everybody wants ...and then add them back and sell that as an improvement.
    Now seriously: I hate the modern dumbing down of UIs. Yes, I understand they're geared towards non geeks and many also designed for touchscreens but at least give us the option to also have a "classic",dense, keyboard-and-mouste-optimized UI. And, at the very least have some way to configure the "advanced" options, even if it's something as ugly as Firefox's "about:config"

  8. Re:Skype? Who cares? Dead. by YogicFlier · · Score: 2

    Serious question - what's the best replacement? I would love to move away from Skype, mainly because they have removed the ability to add a phone number to your contacts.

  9. Re:Skype? Who cares? Dead. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    FaceTime is a beautifully simple interface that Just Works, provided that you're an Apple user calling another Apple user. Steve Jobs (peace be upon him) promised to open up the interface to all comers, but a patent troll called Virnetx hijacked the FaceTime implementation, forcing Apple to change the implementation to one that cannot be open-sourced.