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Linus Torvalds Got Confused About 'When and Where' Maintainer's Summit Is Going To be Held, So Organizers Moved the Entire Conference (linuxfoundation.org)
From The Linux Foundation's mailing list: Last Friday (just before Labor Day) I learned that Linus had gotten confused about when and where the Maintainer's Summit was going to be held this year. And most unfortunately, he has already scheduled a family vacation overlapping with the week of the Maintainer's Summit. Over the weekend, I've been conferring with folks from the Linux Foundation, Linus, and the Maintainer's / Kernel Summit program committee. We explored a lot of options, but ultimately there were only two choices that were workable:
1) Have the Maintainer's Summit in Vancouver, without Linus.
2) Move the Maintainer's Summit to Edinburgh, with Linus.
Curiously enough, Linus suggested option #1. And while holding the Maintainer's Summit without Linus might be an interesting experiment, ultimately, the Program Committee had a strong consensus that moving it Summit to Edinburgh was the better option.
This means that the Maintainer's Summit will take place in Edinburgh, on Monday afternoon, October 22nd. As a reminder, the Maintainer's Summit is an invite-only workshop, with ~30 people attending. The focus of the Maintainer's Summit is process and development issues, *not* technical issues. The Kernel Summit track will still be held in Vancouver alongside Plumber's. Technical discussions will take place there; we simply won't have the time, or necessarily, the right people, to have technical discussions at the Maintainer's Summit.
1) Have the Maintainer's Summit in Vancouver, without Linus.
2) Move the Maintainer's Summit to Edinburgh, with Linus.
Curiously enough, Linus suggested option #1. And while holding the Maintainer's Summit without Linus might be an interesting experiment, ultimately, the Program Committee had a strong consensus that moving it Summit to Edinburgh was the better option.
This means that the Maintainer's Summit will take place in Edinburgh, on Monday afternoon, October 22nd. As a reminder, the Maintainer's Summit is an invite-only workshop, with ~30 people attending. The focus of the Maintainer's Summit is process and development issues, *not* technical issues. The Kernel Summit track will still be held in Vancouver alongside Plumber's. Technical discussions will take place there; we simply won't have the time, or necessarily, the right people, to have technical discussions at the Maintainer's Summit.
If you scheduled an Infinity Gem convention over Thanos' personal time off, seems like you would move that convention too.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Yes it is.
systemD~~ won't allow it
Why would someone vacation in Edinburgh in October? Isn't it rather cold there?
Meeting moved due to scheduling conflicts.
News at 11.
- doddering greybeard developer accidentally gets lost, forces conference relocation.
- "goddamn nvidia!" exclaims elderly hacker as he furiously storms through canadian airport.
- "we dont break userland!!" shouts furious old man as he hurtles coffee at blue-screened airport flight departures display.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Trump's travel ban, US Customs going through all of your electronics, ubiquitous surveillance during your stay, should I go on?
ubiquitous surveillance during your stay
because *that* doesn't exist in the UK
He gave them two hints:
(1) I got my dates mixed up and I cannot attend due to prior commitments.
(2) Don't reschedule, just carry on without me.
Don't you guys get it? He may want the community to be less dependent, more able to stand on its own, not need the hand holding.
A bit like asking "why not Germany?" in the late 30s
You know the kernel is fucking huge now, right?
Lets see you 'remember' a few millions of lines of code.
Linus: I'm going on vacation with family, leave me the f*** alone.
Organizers: Is this the fam?
Linus: You understand, don't you? There's no other solution. You won't go away.
Organizers: I will.
Linus: No, you won't. You're just *saying* you will! But then, after I don't kill you, you'll show up again. And you'll do something else to make everyone in my life think you are wonderful and I'm a schmuck. But I'm not a schmuck, Bob, and I'm not going to let you breeze into town and take my family away from me, just because you're crazy enough to be *fun*.
Make America grate again!
By decentralizing the summit, people could pick a location that offers teleconferencing and join the summit from wherever. Just take time off concurrently and the location really doesn't matter. You could choose to attend from anywhere that can connect. You could even effectively fork the conference if the standard meeting place doesn't suit your requirements or desires.
Inheritance is the sincerest form of nepotism.
A computer conference in the US?
Are you high?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
First they came for the Muslim developers, and I did not speak out, because I wasn't on the Ban list
Umm... not really, it's a bit like TV. Just because you don't see the show continue after you switch off doesn't mean that it doesn't.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
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Suppose that having the core team meet face to face, relaxing over drinks together while discussing things, only results in a 1% improvement in Linux. That's a very small improvement, percentage wise.
The economic impact of all the world's servers running Linux and all the IoT and everything is more than $500 billion. 1% of that is $5 billion, so 1% improvement is worth perhaps $5 billion.
30 people are attending the meeting. If it costs $2,000/person, that's $60,000 cost for a $5 billion impact.
How many of the 15 million or so lines of code do you have memorized?
Really, that seems like a strange critique to make on a project that is explicitly known for having a ton of contributors.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
By the way, this is basically the same reason having the best CEO is worth so much to very large company. If having Carly Fiorina at the helm means you make $40 billion, while having Ray Morris means you make 5% more, that's $42 billion. Only a 5% difference means Morris is worth $2 billion more than Fiorina.
> USA is the bastion of freedom and democracy in the world
Bullshit
(Clip from HBO's "The Newsroom")
It used it be. And can be again.
Wake me up when:
* music, home economics, shop, and finance are mandatory classes in school again,
*we stop teaching math by rote which kills all curiosity in the subject,
* we stop idolizing sport stars and actors who make millions -- who will be forgotten in a few decades and instead have more and better Teachers who struggle to make a decent wage
* we stop spending Billions fighting another man's rich war
* we stop the insanity of Imaginary Property and the obnoxious duration
* we stop corporations hijacking culture for the sake of profit
* we stop the visual pollution of advertising
* we stop tracking everything fucking thing a person does and selling the data to the highest bidder
* we take security breaches serious and enforce fines for when personal information is hacked / stolen
* we stop censoring people who think different
* etc.
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Main St. built America,
Walls St. destroyed America.
The Right Wing in America stands for exactly what the nazis stood for.
So, move a workshop that's invite only for 30 people, and not to do with the technical side. Linus says don't bother, you're fine without me. The rest basically vote "Nah, we'd like to come see you", and people complain?
Sounds like great cameraderie on that committee, and I really hope they enjoy themselves. Edinburgh is a lovely city, and the Scots are great people.. They'll be shown a warm welcome, and have the chance to wander around the area if they choose to. Which is a great way to go sightseeing, and throw in a little business on the side.
They could easily have had the conference without him. I think they just like the guy, wanted him included if possible, and really thought they may just enjoy a trip to Scotland to sample the local wares!
Absolutely nothing wrong with that. I wholeheartedly approve of the cameradierie they're showing.
"I was once on a US military ship, having breakfast in the wardroom (officers lounge) when the Operations Officer (OPS) walks in. This guy was the definition of NOT a morning person; he's still half asleep, bleary eyed... basically a zombie with a bagel. He sits down across from me to eat his bagel and is just barely conscious. My back is to the outboard side of the ship, and the morning sun is blazing in one of the portholes putting a big bright-ass circle of light right on his barely conscious face. He's squinting and chewing and basically just remembering how to be alive for today. It's painful to watch.
But then zombie-OPS stops chewing, slowly picks up the phone, and dials the bridge. In his well-known I'm-still-totally-asleep voice, he says "heeeey. It's OPS. Could you... shift our barpat... yeah, one six five. Thanks." And puts the phone down. And then he just sits there. Squinting. Waiting.
And then, ever so slowly, I realize that that big blazing spot of sun has begun to slide off the zombie's face and onto the wall behind him. After a moment it clears his face and he blinks slowly a few times and the brilliant beauty of what I've just witnessed begins to overwhelm me. By ordering the bridge to adjust the ship's back-and-forth patrol by about 15 degrees, he's changed our course just enough to reposition the sun off of his face. He's literally just redirected thousands of tons of steel and hundreds of people so that he could get the sun out of his eyes while he eats his bagel. I am in awe.
He slowly picks up his bagel and for a moment I'm terrified at the thought that his own genius may escape him, that he may never appreciate the epic brilliance of his laziness (since he's not going to wake up for another hour). But between his next bites he pauses, looks at me, and gives me the faintest, sly grin, before returning to gnaw slowly on his zombie bagel."
The OPS officer is Linus. The conference is the battleship.
What calendar software do you all use on Linux? Honest question, b/c Ive used lightning (w/ Thunderbird) and found it pretty clunky.
seems relevant somehow..
The Right Wing in America stands for exactly what the nazis stood for.
That you actually believe that is what is frightening,
Yeah, right, Linus got "confused". Sounds more like Linus got sick of being in charge.
Seriously. The lead has an appointment clash. Whatever the reason.
Of course the crew adjusts. This is SOP in every team.
On top of that, Linus isn't just some mid-range lead in a kinda so so software team.
This is the kernel and he basically has demigod status and for good reasons too, so I presume the crew is happy to adjust.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Wow, I had no idea that customs didn't exist in other countries. It's weird, I could swear I had suspicious guys checking me out when I entered other countries. My bad, USA evil, got it.
Linus Torvalds won't be in the USA in October, he'll be in Scotland. Moving from one place where Linus isn't to another place where Linus isn't doesn't solve the problem.
All I want is a secure system where it's easy to do anything I want. Is that too much to ask ~~ Randall Munroe