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The 'Post-PC Era' Never Really Happened... and Likely Won't (techpinions.com)

Mark Lowenstein, writing for Techpinions: As we head toward Apple's annual device announcement-palooza, it's an interesting exercise to consider where we are in Steve Jobs' vaunted, much quoted 'Post-PC Era.' The fact of the matter is, that era never fully arrived, and it doesn't look like it will, in the near- to medium- term future. [...] Tablets have had a good run, but sales have tailed off of late. I'd say they've had greater influence on the evolution of the smartphone and the PC, rather than leading to a significantly different nomenclature for what most of us carry around today. My Techpinions colleague Ben Bajarin says that Creative Strategies surveys indicate that only about 10% of tablet users have 'replaced their PC' -- a number that has held steady for several years. And that 10% is concentrated in a handful of industries, such as real estate and construction. PC sales aren't exactly surging, but they're steady. Your average white collar professional today still carries around a smartphone and a laptop, with the tablet being an ancillary device, used primarily for media/content consumption.

Tablets have had a significant influence on the design of smartphones and PCs. They ushered in an era of smartphone screen upsizing, led primarily by Samsung, and now reinforced by the iPhone X and the expected announcement next week of a 6.5 inch iPhone model. For those who don't want to swing both a smartphone and tablet, we have 'Phablets,' most personified in the successful Galaxy Note series, and alternative-to-keyboard input devices such as the S Pen and the Apple Pencil. We've also seen the development of some hybrid tablet/PC devices, the most innovative and successful of which is Microsoft's Surface line. But that product is competing more in the tablet category than in the PC category, with the exception of a few market segments.

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  1. Reasons. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Smearing greasy prints on a screen, waving your shit around like an idiot, screaming at your word processor that you mean your, no, not yore, no not you're, no for fuck's sake!, or literally walking through a filesystem... All cute gimmicks that last about ten minutes.

    And then you pull out the keyboard and get real work done.

    Nobody has yet come up with a remotely serious idea that even has a chance at ousting the PC.

    1. Re:Reasons. by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 3, Insightful

      imagine how much stupider it would look to be taking the picture with the camera on a laptop.

      If only there were a small device that only took pictures and could then transfer them to the laptop.

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    2. Re:Reasons. by ranton · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Nobody has yet come up with a remotely serious idea that even has a chance at ousting the PC.

      I don't think that is true, it's just the current implementations aren't sufficient. I believe docking stations for mobile phones have a very good chance of ousting the PC, and these do already exist. Performance for such a small device is still an issue, although that may not be true much longer. Convergence between mobile OS/apps and the PC counterparts is another obstacle which could also go away soon.

      While I doubt software developers or graphic designers would be trading away their PCs and laptops any time soon, a significant percentage of people could probably perform their day to day tasks with smartphone level performance if they had a monitor, keyboard, and mouse connected to it.

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  2. This is a good thing by DaMattster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tablets do not replace PCs and laptops. They just aren't as functional. Tablets are nice for reading and doing light work but for anything that requires real heavy-weight work, the PC reigns king.

    1. Re:This is a good thing by null+etc. · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They just aren't as functional.

      Tablets aren't as functional due to a few primary limitations: lack of native support for peripherals (the most important of which are mouse devices, which require deep integration with the operating system user interface); lack of ability to fully customize the operating system; lack of ability to truly run multiple applications concurrently; and lack of ability to run whatever software one has access to.

      Of course, tablets that are designed to run desktop operating systems don't have these problems. They have a separate problem: after adding a keyboard, mouse, peripheral hub, stand, etc. to make the tablet as functional as a laptop, you might as well just buy a touchscreen ultralight laptop.

      Not many people who are seriously productive on a PC are willing to make the compromises required for working with tablets.

    2. Re:This is a good thing by DickBreath · · Score: 3, Interesting
      For many people, "work" means using Office-type applications and web based applications.

      Questions to be disgust:
      • * If a reasonably powered laptop, plugged into a doc at the office, with big screen, separate keyboard, mouse, etc, is suitable for some employees, then wouldn't that same laptop be suitable for work at a remote location, but with somewhat diminished convenience?
      • * if an office worker's primary application is a web based application, then wouldn't a $199 chromebook be suitable? (Note: these continue to be available despite the disappearance of Toys-R-Us.)
      • * If a marketing executive needs assistance to log in, to print, to launch a word processor, to send email, etc, then wouldn't they be about as well served by portable convenient paper and crayons?
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    3. Re:This is a good thing by tlhIngan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Tablets are nice for reading and doing light work but for anything that requires real heavy-weight work, the PC reigns king.

      And how much "heavy weight work" does an average family do?

      What tablets and smartphones did was reduce PC usage. It never quite eliminated it. (And even Steve Jobs admitted it - in the post-PC era, there would still be PCs becaues they're like trucks - and there are plenty of tasks a truck can do that a car can't).

      But instead of having to have a PC for everyone, usage slipped a fair bit. You still have to have a family PC for homework and probably Mom or Dad brings home a work laptop to work from home, but for light web browsing, and of course the inevitable netflix and facebook and all that stuff, the kids will just use their smartphones and tablets and be done with it. (Sharing photos on social media is much easier on a smartphone/tablet than on a PC).

      We'll always have PCs. The reality is, we don't need as many PCs as we used to since many tasks that were once done by PCs (e.g., web browsing, reading, netflix) have moved off of them and onto more specialized devices like phones, tablets, or set top boxes.

  3. And yet, it still happened. by rbanffy · · Score: 2

    In many senses, it already happened.

    How many programs did you download to your PC? My mom uses a browser and mostly nothing else. Most people I know are perfectly happy with online Office and Google apps. My e-mail client is a web application, as is my calendar, my spreadsheet and my notepad. My word processor is also a web application. What's left is the collection of compilers and system administration tools, terminals and so on most users don't need or know how to use.

    The fact they are still x86-based laptops or desktops is due to manufacturing scales, mostly.

    1. Re:And yet, it still happened. by nwaack · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In many senses, it already happened.

      No, it didn't. Did you walk through your office and see all the employees typing away on their tablets, getting all that mission-critical business stuff done? No? Me either. Until businesses are able to use tablets to do all their "business stuff," the pc will continue to be king.

    2. Re:And yet, it still happened. by Scarletdown · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In many senses, it already happened.

      How many programs did you download to your PC? My mom uses a browser and mostly nothing else...

      Just the ones I can recall of the top of my head...

      Firefox
      Thunderbird
      Turbo Lister
      Libre Office
      Star Trek Online
      VLC
      Audacity
      VirtualDub
      Arachnophilia (for my HTML editor)
      GIMP
      Teamspeak/Ventrilo/Mumble depending on what group we are running with
      Celestia
      AviDemux
      Calibre

      And that is just a small sampling.

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  4. Reality is... by blahplusplus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... the big sucking sound for software is coming to close down PC's. We've seen huge gains by Vavle and the game industry to lock down PC's, couple that with smart phone games and emulators like nox and then top it off with windows 10. There is huge pressure to keep taking away control of the machine from end users largely because customers can't reach these companies to punch them in the nads for their theiverous practices. The internet has allowed companies to force policies on populations that don't want them through attrition (aka, are you not going to buy videogames forever if devs choose to release drm infested games?). The market is over and we're finally seeing our society enter a feudal like faze where capitalism is transforming itself into a new feudalism of serfs who have no rights to own the things they buy and lords you extract tribute through simply not being able to be reached by the peasants.

    1. Re:Reality is... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      We've seen huge gains by Vavle and the game industry to lock down PC's,

      You mean the Vavle [sic] that's releasing a tool to help your Windows games run on Linux?

      couple that with smart phone games and emulators like nox

      You know there's more to computing than games, right?

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    2. Re:Reality is... by rogoshen1 · · Score: 2

      You're cherry-picking the behavior of Valve and saying it doesn't matter because it's only games. While failing to see the same trend and tactics being employed by everyone.

      Adobe? Rent your software.
      MS? Rent your office suite. And we also own your update schedule. We'll also track you relentlessly. And who knows, maybe (probably!) we'll decide to only allow installation of software from approved sources)
      Valve: already covered, but they're inserting themselves as the gatekeeper for the entire video game industry. Either put your software up on their service, or potentially lose out on a huge swath of customers.

      As for Steam specifically you're still playing a game that is effectively leased through their service.. Sure the terms are fairly benign now, but lock-in is an advantage that a company will eventually leverage (or else why would they actively pursue it?)

      Valve does not care one iota what platform you use, just so long as you use their service. The point is, their end-goal is a monopoly on software distribution (sure it's just video games. For now).

      I wonder how much of this trend is driven by advertising/big data/analytics? It used to be that a company sold you a product, that was the end of it.
      But once a company starts monetizing users (specifically) and their data; they become a resource AFTER the sale to be herded and protected from poachers.

      Leading to walled gardens, SaaS and all sorts of abusive bullshit that we tolerate now.

  5. The problem with tablets... by TWX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...is that devices specifically manufactured and marketed as tablets first and foremost are limited. They don't successfully replace all of the functions of a PC, in that the software written for them and the nature of how they're designed to interact with peripherals and with other systems is restricted. In some senses this can be a good thing, we don't have quite as many problems with poorly written software crashing the OS, but because of the walled-garden approach that both Android and Apple have taken, there's simply less functionality. On top of that, due to the battery-operated, portable nature of the devices, they don't do the CPU-intensive tasks as well as something designed to be plugged into the wall, or even something that carries a lot more mass in batteries.

    In an ideal world, I would have a very small device that could interface to any screen and set of input devices that I so chose. It could serve as my phone, it could serve as my book reader, it could serve to watch movies, could serve as a portable computer for business functions, could serve as my full-featured desktop computer, depending on what set of peripherals I'm using with it. Unfortunately desktop computer operating systems don't do the mobile functions too well, and the mobile operating systems don't offer the freedom I need for desktop functions.

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    1. Re:The problem with tablets... by swb · · Score: 2

      I think this is all reasonable, but I would add the emphasis and lack of mouse support in tablets, especially iPads (which had the broadest platform adoption) hurt the use cases of tablets.

      I felt like there was a lot more I could have been doing with my iPad if I had a mouse that wasn't specifically limited by the screen or CPU. Editing larger text documents, light graphics stuff (ie, PowerPoint/Paint type, not Photoshop) was all super cumbersome with touch-screen only input.

      I was excited about using it as an RDP platform, but holy shit the lack of a mouse made it totally limiting.

      I mean there was other stuff that was limiting -- a lot of the software was either literally upscaled phone applications or applications that deliberately chose Fisher-Price level oversimplification.

      But much of it was user-input driven, even with a BT keyboard paired. That got me useful text input (so long as I didn't have to edit much). But once you got beyond couchsurfing, it was more the lack of a mouse than software or CPU that seemed to be the culprit. I didn't want to make a high-end workstation out of it, just do productivity stuff beyond what touchscreen wasn't a total hindrance for.

  6. Very well said. by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 2

    On point in every case. This is something that is amazing to watch as the next generations cede all their agency to corporate overlords, all the while thanking them for the privilege of being misused. Sickening.

  7. Netscape and Sun both won. by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ok, so they both died in the process, but they won. Netscape with its "browser as a platform" strategy, and Sun with its "network computing" strategy, both failed to win their early battles against Microsoft, but in the end, the PC lost its place as "the" platform. Applications are now accessed over the Internet, and they can be accessed using any device. Applications locally installed on a Wintel machine are still around, but they're no longer the primary way we do most things with computers. Remember when you had to install a special Windows program to track a FedEx package? To log in to your bank? To do your taxes? That era is over. We're in the post-PC era now, and we've been there for quite some time now.

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    1. Re:Netscape and Sun both won. by MeNeXT · · Score: 2

      Never had to install a special package to log into my bank. Never needed a special package to track a package. As Equifax and the US government confirmed for me, I will never use an online service to file my taxes.

      Your examples are about situations where your data resides on someones system. It doesn't reside on yours except for the income tax software. Nothing has changed for me. All my original data resides on my systems. All my pictures, financials, letters, emails, etc.... I can't afford to put it online and pay a monthly fee to use it at the fraction of the local speed. The time may come when speed, security and cost reach a price point that it would make sense but it hasn't happened yet.

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  8. Re:They are one and the same by ranton · · Score: 2

    They are just a different form factor for convenience when performing different tasks. PCs, tablets, and smartphones are destined for convergence.

    Those two statements appear to be at opposition with each other. The fact that these devices have different form factors to conveniently perform different tasks is why they will not converge. They will continue to be very similar, and perhaps the OS and apps on the devices will converge, but ultimately there is a reason each form factor exists. To use a car analogy, it is similar to why we have sedans, SUV / minivans, and trucks. Each are very similar, and often share the same frames and internal components. But they each will continue to exist because they make certain activities more convenient.

    I should clarify this is at least true for mobile vs PC, since a good argument could be made that tablet sales are suffering because larger phones are causing these form factors to converge. I for one have bought two tablets in the past but probably never will again since my 6"+ mobile phone does the job well enough.

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  9. Old tech != useless by dablow · · Score: 2

    People forget that the current way of working on a PC evolved over 150ish years....

    It is still the most efficient way to work over long hours (assuming correct posture) with the least amount of effort required (imagine your arms after having to navigate for 7 hoursusing touch with 2 32" 4K displays).

    Also businesses have invested BILLIONS in software that currently only run on x86-AMD64 architecture (and in fact due to their GUI and information density not really usable on touch navigation) that they are in no hurry to replace.

    It's possible that one day we will replace all desktops with smartphones powerfull enough to run x86-AMD64 emulators to run legacy apps, however mouse/keyboard/screen setup is not going away any time soon.

  10. The 2 key problems: Input and output by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yes, tablets are powerful enough today to do most of what most people want to use a laptop or PC for, with one exception: Sensible input and output. Sorry, but the screen-keyboard of a tablet is useless compared to a normal keyboard. If you don't agree, show me your touch-typing on a tablet with more than 80 wpm and we'll talk.

    Likewise, output is atrocious. When you're used to 22" screens as your display real estate, trying to get used to screens not even 1/4 the size is really taxing.

    It's a neat tool to check your mail while on the go. I give you that. But getting any sensible work done is next to impossible on them.

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  11. Re:They are one and the same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mobile devices have those secure OSes which only execute authorized machine code and don't give bad guys full control over your property.

    Yeah, thank God those mobile device manufacturers have finally put a stop to the malware problem!

  12. What if the iPad had embraced keyboard and mouse? by swb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I always wonder what would have happened if Apple had decided that a keyboard and more importantly a mouse was an acceptable iPad peripheral.

    I mostly liked my iPads (1 & 3) but over time felt hemmed in by the lack of a mouse. I had a keyboard case which made text input a lot better, but the lack of a mouse and the clumsy nature of screen touch made editing anything an impossible chore and even the promise of RDP to desktops unappealing for anything more than basic status checks or the most marginal of activities.

    If Apple had allowed mice, would the iPad have gained more ground from PCs?

  13. Re:What's a computer? by DickBreath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anyone who watches TV knows that a computer is a large mysterious machine that occupies a large room. It communicates via many blinking lights which is how the genius computer operators understand what the machine is directing them to do. Mere mortals are separated from computers by a large glass windows. The computer operators wear white lab coats. There is no readily apparent mechanism by which the humans communicate to the machine; but it doesn't seem to need their useless opinions.

    The computer's mystery is exceeded only by its power.

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  14. Re:They are one and the same by spire3661 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fool. The user is always supposed to have ultimate control over the device. Fuck off with your scare-mongering as an excuse for sloth and apathy. If a user refuses to learn, they deserve what they get. Dont bust out the golden shackles and try to tell me its jewelry.

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  15. I never took it seriously in the first place by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I always saw tablets as expensive toys with limited uses, and to be fair they have legitimate uses, but as a replacement for a full-blown desktop computer or laptop? No. Too limited, too specialized. It's always been marketing hype like with anything else, trying to convince people their lives aren't complete unless they have such-and-such thing. Just like smartphones; you don't actually need it, a plain old phone would be just as good, but you want it, mainly because they convinced you you need it.

  16. Machine code authorized by whom? by tepples · · Score: 2

    Mobile devices have those secure OSes which only execute authorized machine code and don't give bad guys full control over your property.

    That'd be fine so long as A. the owner of a device[1] has authority to authorize machine code to run on that device, and B. asserting this authority doesn't require a separate purchase from the same or an affiliated manufacturer with a price that meets or exceeds the price of the device.

    [1] Or, in the case of a corporate owned device, an authenticated user chosen by the owner.

    1. Re:Machine code authorized by whom? by DickBreath · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I strongly agree with that. You still own your device. You can seize control of it at any time.

      I like how Google has done this on the Chromebooks. You CAN put it in developer mode, if you want to. You still get to run Chrome OS (and Android). Yet the device is effectively rooted. You can install a Linux desktop (or several at once) via Crouton. And run all the untrusted code to your heart's content. (Tip: Since the "Downloads" folder is mapped to "Downloads" in each Linux desktop, put a lot of persistent stuff there, and then symlink it into each desktop Linux from where it is under "Downloads".)

      In the mode I just described, you only get to run authorized code under Chrome OS and Android -- but you can run all your favorite untrusted code under Crouton. Or ignore Crouton. From the crosh shell you can simply type 'shell' and have root access.

      Furthermore, for people who want to jump through even more hoops, you can replace the firmware. You can dual boot. Or you can simply wipe Chrome OS entirely and install Linux.

      Finally, to people who say they want to have 100% control. Yes, you do. In principle. But in reality do I have 100% control? Unless I personally vet every single line of code, do I really know everything I'm executing in Ubuntu Unity, or Xfce? If I use the self-update features in Linux, do I really have 100% control any more than poor Microsoft schlobs?

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  17. Re:They are one and the same by AC-x · · Score: 2

    Mobile devices have those neutered OSes that only let you install approved software and don't give you full control over your own property

    (Looks at rooted custom ROM Android phone) Maybe you're just using the wrong mobile device?

  18. For many, games are the only local computing by tepples · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You know there's more to computing than games, right?

    True, but for many users, there isn't more to local computing than games. I've gathered through conversation with other Internet users that many of them use only two categories of application: 1. web applications and 2. native games. They don't use any native non-game applications not shipped with a device's operating system. They could be satisfied with an Xbox One and a Chromebook.

  19. I don't think people want control by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    when you're on /. it's easy to live in the tech bubble, but fact is most people just want tech to work. They're a means to an end not an end themselves. If they pay a little (some cases a lot) extra to have it work that's well worth it. And so it giving up the control of an old school PC experience.

    Also, there's a huge difference between somebody who likes gadgets and a technophile. We often conflate the two and think there's more technophiles than there really are.

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  20. As someone that does in-home support on the side.. by Not-a-Neg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What I see in 90% of homes are families that have a laptop for the mother, tablets for the little kids and smartphones for teens. Dad tends to be in the "man cave" drinking, or uses a work provided laptop, typically both.

    It has become extremely rare to see desktop PC's in a home unless the person telecommutes or operates a home business on the side. Gamer's are really the only group left that stick to PC's but there is a growing trend to go with gaming laptops since they are easier to take to a friend's house/dorm.

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  21. They stopped improving tablets by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tablets have had a good run, but sales have tailed off of late.

    That's because they ceased making them better. Almost every tablet I've seen is nothing more than a supersized smartphone and it runs more or less the exact same software. I haven't bought an iPad because it really does nothing for me that my iPhone doesn't do competently and if I need more computing power my PC will run rings around any tablet on the market. Tablet's exist in the space between smartphones and laptops which constrains them on both sides. They aren't as portable as smartphones and they aren't as powerful as PCs. To grow further they need to do offer something which neither smartphones or PCs can easily match.

    What seems to be happening is that tablets are slowly becoming low end laptops rather than their own distinct type of device. It's not clear if this is a good thing or a bad thing but it does explain why they've plateaued.

    Other problems include that the accessories for tablets tend to be complete afterthoughts. The keyboards, and covers and other periferals are not well integrated. Apple introduced the Apple Pencil which functions fine but lacks software support and has no physical integration with the device. You have to carry it separately rather than sliding it into a convenient holder where it gets charged when not in use.

  22. The software sucks by sjbe · · Score: 2

    It's a neat tool to check your mail while on the go. I give you that. But getting any sensible work done is next to impossible on them.

    That's because the software for tablets by and large sucks. It's basically the same software designed for smartphone with minimal changes in most cases. Not powerful enough to replace a real PC but nothing much added over a smartphone even when it could be.

    They should be great for a wide variety of tasks but the makers of these things got lazy. So they get treated as a poor mans laptop or a content consumption device but they could be more. Not to mention that the peripherals which could make using them better are almost always total afterthoughts and poorly integrated.

  23. Re:They are one and the same by Aristos+Mazer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The problem is that when those fools refuse to learn, they hurt those of us who do learn. Whether it is allowing their machines to become part of a DDOS attack, or leaking all their stored data (which can include our private data), or becoming penetration points for our networks, or whatever. There's a need for some sort of "herd immunity", to borrow a concept from vaccinations. I don't know what that looks like, but the phones are much more secure, and I've often wished desktops had some security rails like the phones. Something like training wheels that you have to consciously remove.

  24. Just use a laptop if you want a mouse by sjbe · · Score: 2

    If Apple had allowed mice, would the iPad have gained more ground from PCs?

    No because it would have allowed software makers to get lazy (in a different way) about how the device would be used. Look at styluses for an example. Software makers tended to use these as nothing more than mice when given the chance even though a stylus makes a terrible mouse. Styluses are best for drawing and only drawing and to treat them as a substitute for a mouse (or worse keyboard) is a recipe for failure. If you want a mouse get a machine designed with that in mind - aka a PC. Tablets have finger input and it's not really easy to reconcile that with mouse input. Microsoft has come closest with their Surface machines but there are problems with that they haven't yet overcome.

    As it is tablets are basically supersized smartphones which creates a whole different set of lazy design decisions by software makers. They basically make a smartphone app and then don't change much for the tablet. This means that the tablet is underutilized.

    Personally I think the way tablets should differentiate themselves is through pen input. They should be the ultimate note taking and document editing machines. Anywhere you would use a pad of paper you should be able to use a tablet instead. Finger input of course and keyboards when helpful but no mice.

  25. Re:They are one and the same by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To use a car analogy, it is similar to why we have sedans, SUV / minivans, and trucks.

    Back in the '90s, the proverbial "killer app" to get everyone to buy a personal computer was The Internet. You needed your email and web surfing and the only way to do that was with a personal computer--despite some attempts to make it otherwise.

    Which was great for companies that made personal computers. Because while you had competition, "a rising tide lifts all boats." Whether I buy a Dell, HP, Asus, or Toshiba, I'm still essentially buying the same thing. One might be "better" than the other, but these companies compete against each other for essentially the same thing.

    The problem is that the tide is starting to go out. People aren't buying as many traditional personal computers. Phones are now personal computers--while it can only do about 50% of what a personal computer can do, it can do 100% of what most people want to do with their personal computer. The economies of scale that made the generic personal computer so successful are now threatened--the personal computer my Mom bought to surf the web is a 3 year-old version of the top-of-the-line computer that I bought to develop software when it first came out. But this time she bought a tablet--something different. The company that made that high-end computer can't move their costs down after a year or two for a wider audience because that market is fragmented.

    In some ways, that means higher prices up front for the latest and greatest because they'll have a harder time selling last year's model. My Mom is no longer subsidizing my cheap hardware by buying the three year-old model of what I bought.

  26. Re:They are one and the same by perpenso · · Score: 2

    They are just a different form factor for convenience when performing different tasks. PCs, tablets, and smartphones are destined for convergence.

    Those two statements appear to be at opposition with each other. The fact that these devices have different form factors to conveniently perform different tasks is why they will not converge. They will continue to be very similar, and perhaps the OS and apps on the devices will converge, but ultimately there is a reason each form factor exists.

    I'm leaning towards the hardware converging but the software not. For example a tablet can simply be a removable laptop screen, or if you want to look from the "other" side laptops become docks for tablets. To use Apple as an example I would expect the screen to run iOS when undocked and macOS when docked.

    Smartphone being part of the convergence is trickier given the pocket sized requirement. For longer work sessions that laptop sized screen would seem a necessity. There might be convergence in the sense that one day nearly all laptops and tablets may have cellular capability but I expect two devices to persist, one a 24/7 pocket companion, one for more serious work sessions.

    Oh damn, we forgot the watch ... :-)

  27. Phones and PC likely to remain complementary by perpenso · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People aren't buying as many traditional personal computers.

    While there is some truth to the idea that some activities are more convenient on a phone or tablet, I think the larger culprit in declining PC sales is their increased longevity. We are long past the point where the computational power of a PC has exceeded the needs of many users, where a new computer has no perceptible performance increase over a three year old computer for many users. Now granted I installed ample RAM in my 8 year old PC when I built it but it is still a useful machine, even for many video games with a video card upgrade every 2-3 years.

    Phones are now personal computers--while it can only do about 50% of what a personal computer can do, it can do 100% of what most people want to do with their personal computer.

    Perhaps "many" not "most". For longer endurance activities, outside of gaming, larger screens and real keyboards are more necessary. Phones and PCs will likely remain complementary devices, in the developed world people will likely continue to have both. Tablets and PCs, there we may have convergence, a "laptop" becoming a "dock" and a detachable "screen".

    My Mom is no longer subsidizing my cheap hardware by buying the three year-old model of what I bought.

    Similar story in my family. The "retired" folks who just wants email, Skype, web browsing and online shopping in moderate proportions is finding a tablet quite satisfactory. And this includes people who had used computers for many years at work.

    But for people in school or still working, I think PCs will be hard to replace with tablets.

  28. Re:They are one and the same by geekmux · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fool. The user is always supposed to have ultimate control over the device. Fuck off with your scare-mongering as an excuse for sloth and apathy. If a user refuses to learn, they deserve what they get. Dont bust out the golden shackles and try to tell me its jewelry.

    There are a LOT more users that don't give a shit about having "ultimate control" than you assume. What you call golden shackles the average user calls blissful ignorance; and they're quite happy not knowing or being responsible for their hardware.

    In fact, most of the shit you own and operate today you don't have "ultimate control" over, so I'm not really sure where your delusional demands are stemming from here.

  29. Microsoft Surface by tigersha · · Score: 2

    Is the future. A hybrid

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    The dangers of excessive individualism are nothing compared to the oppressiveness of excessive collectivism