FDA Chief Considers Ban of All Flavored E-Cigarettes (wsj.com)

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FDA Chief Considers Ban of All Flavored E-Cigarettes (wsj.com)

Posted by msmash on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @02:00AM from the tough-stand dept.

Calling a surge in teen use of e-cigarettes an epidemic, the head of the Food and Drug Administration says he is considering pulling all flavored e-cigarettes from the U.S. market. From a report: After years of declining U.S. smoking rates, sales of e-cigarettes have jumped in the past year, fueled in part by online startups selling vaporizers and nicotine-laced liquids. The most popular brand, Juul, sells refills with mango, cucumber and creme flavors. Each $4 pod contains as much nicotine as a pack of cigarettes. "The number of teenagers we believe are now using these products... has reached an epidemic proportion," said FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, who is expected to announce new measures Wednesday to curb underage use. Dr. Gottlieb said he believes that certain flavors make the products appealing to teens. "The availability of e-cigarettes cannot come at the expense of addicting a new generation of youth onto nicotine, and it won't," he said in an interview. Alternative source, and official announcement.

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Ban cigs by datavirtue · 2018-09-12 02:03 · Score: 5, Insightful

Ban cigarettes while your at it dipshit.

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1. Re:Ban cigs by BlueStrat · 2018-09-12 02:36 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Ban cigarettes while your at it dipshit.
  That's not going to happen.
  As a matter of fact, all this hand-wringing about teens vaping is just smoke to cover the fact that the government wants to find an excuse to ban e-cigs and vaping because it's seriously cutting into tobacco sales and especially hurting the creation of new teen smokers, not to mention all the federal and State tobacco & cigarette taxes the government is losing out on, and stands to see even more losses if teens take up vaping instead of smoking tobacco.
  The government would much rather see Dick and Jane. See Dick and Jane with a 3-pack-a-day habit. See Dick and Jane pay thousands in tobacco taxes every year. Watch Dick and Jane get lung cancer and spend many tens of thousands on medical treatment and hospice costs. See the Government and healthcare providers run away with pockets bulging with cash. Run, merchants of death, run!
  Strat
  
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Sounds good to me by Anonymous Coward · 2018-09-12 02:03 · Score: 5, Insightful

No one wants to walk though your cloud of second-hand blueberry fumes!
1. Re:Sounds good to me by Oswald+McWeany · 2018-09-12 02:11 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  No one wants to walk though your cloud of second-hand blueberry fumes!
  No they don't, but I don't want to listen to someone's rap music playing out a car window, or smell someone with BO, or taste ketchup that was put on my burger.
  Not wanting to experience something that other people do want to experience is not reason for it to be illegal. Banning flavoured vapes because some teens are getting it illegal is not right in my opinion. Target people illegally selling it, or giving it to kids if you want. Tax the stuff if you want.
  I don't like smoke or vaping- but I'm not for making it illegal. If they do it in the privacy of their own properties and don't expose others- and are well-informed of the consequences, then people should be allowed to smoke or vape if they want. I don't approve of banning things just because they're unpopular with the masses.
  One day, something I like doing which is unpopular with the masses might be next on the chopping block. Let people have their vices if it isn't hurting anyone else. And yeah... do things to keep it out the hands of underage teens who have not yet reached adult age.
  
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2. Re:Sounds good to me by sjames · 2018-09-12 07:49 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  There's ample reason to ban public cologne and perfume as well, but it hasn't happened. At least the vapers stop emitting the vape when they go inside.
Re:Why have nocotine at all? by DarkRookie · 2018-09-12 02:29 · Score: 4, Interesting

I know some that have switched to vape because it is cheaper than cigarettes.

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Milking It by sycodon · 2018-09-12 02:35 · Score: 4, Insightful

They do seem to be milking this situation in the most hypocritical way.
On the one hand, restrict, preach, shame.
On the other, tax, tax, tax.

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1. Re:Milking It by sycodon · 2018-09-12 02:59 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  It's like when you don't take all your antibiotics. The infection never really goes away and eventually comes back stronger.
  In this case, they are supposedly trying to suppress it through taxation, but they never tax enough to effectively kill it. Instead, they only tax to the point where there is minimal black market activity. So...keeping it alive. or course they still allow the manufacture and sale of cigarettes.
  
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I agree by ilsaloving · 2018-09-12 02:35 · Score: 5, Funny

I have to say I agree with this.
There's nothing worse than smelling donuts or cotton candy, and you turn the corner thinking "Mmmm I'm gonna treat myself to something tasty!"
But no... It's just Brad and his cloud of LIES.
Re:Why have nocotine at all? by Kielistic · 2018-09-12 02:46 · Score: 4, Informative

Why stop there? Ban all caffeine too! It is addictive and has the same risk factors as nicotine. Plus all those sugary caffeinated drinks are clearly marketed solely to get children addicted.
Nicotine in vape liquid is not "to get people addicted". It is because people want nicotine. People like nicotine because it is a stimulant. Nicotine is addictive because it is a stimulant and because people like it.
Re:Controls a 3 pack a day habit.... by FlipperPA · 2018-09-12 02:46 · Score: 4, Informative

Here here. This move completely ignores the fact that sales are only for those over 18, and the science on the issue: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/e-cigarettes-around-95-less-harmful-than-tobacco-estimates-landmark-review
Nicotine on its own is much like caffeine: highly addictive, but not that harmful. It's the other crap in cigarettes that kills you. Vaping has no carcinogens.
But don't let science get in the way of some good political FUD, eh?