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Some Students Say Having To Speak in Front of the Class is an Unreasonable Burden For Those With Anxiety and Are Requesting Alternative Options (theatlantic.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: For many middle and high school students, giving an in-class presentation was a rite of passage. Teachers would call up students, one by one, to present their work in front of the class and, though it was often nerve wracking, many people claim it helped turn them into more confident public speakers. "Coming from somebody with severe anxiety, having somebody force me to do a public presentation was the best idea to happen in my life," one woman recently tweeted. According to a recent survey by the Association of American Colleges and Universities, oral communication is one of the most sought-after skills in the workplace, with over 90 percent of hiring managers saying it's important. Some educators also credit in-class presentations with building essential leadership skills, and increasing students' confidence and understanding of material.

But in the past few years, students have started calling out in-class presentations as discriminatory to those with anxiety, demanding that teachers offer alternative options. This week, a tweet posted by 15-year-old high school student declaring "Stop forcing students to present in front of the class and give them a choice not to" garnered over 130,000 retweets and nearly half a million likes. A similar sentiment tweeted in January also racked up thousands of likes and retweets. And teachers are listening.

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  1. Bravery by alternative_right · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It scared the crap out of me, but I came out of my shell with encouragement from some kindly teachers.

    It's a rite of passage because in life, we have to be brave about many things. Not just big stuff like warfare and hurricanes, but life choices and eventually confronting mortality (put it off as long as you can).

    We need to raise people to overcome their disadvantages, not revel in them. We can be compassionate and help them do so, but they need this ability to be brave and we need them to have it.

    1. Re:Bravery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I have an anxiety disorder. Well, technically I have a sensory processing disorder which overloads my brain which then causes my mental state to break down to severe anxiety. I have had the problem since birth. This makes me incapable of handling just day to day life let alone stress. Things that are slightly stressful for normal people are nearly completely impossible for me (eg. going to the doctor).

      Anyway, I did all the public presentations. I even took speech specific classes in college where I was giving speeches 3 times a week. I didn't like it. It didn't get easier and it didn't better my life in any way. I wouldn't do it again.

      Back then I didn't know something was wrong with me so I forced myself to do a lot of stuff like take speech classes. I never got the help I needed as a kid or even adult which was really hard on me but I kept pushing myself. Turns out I was just making myself worse because this wasn't something I was doing wrong but instead something is physically wrong with me. I finally started getting treatment at 40 years old but honestly it's a bit late and there isn't anything that helps much.

    2. Re:Bravery by brunes69 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Agreed.

      There are no free passes in life, and no participation trophies.

      If you get a free pass on giving class presentations through your whole school career, how do you think you will fare the first time you have to give a powerpoint presentation at the office?

      You can't live your life in a bubble.

    3. Re:Bravery by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, on high-school level there is also a pedagogic problem with students being able to bypass requirements in this way: It teaches them that they just need the right kind of problem or "victim" status an they can get away with not trying hard. This way we get incomplete and problematic adults.

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  2. I have math anxiety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have history anxiety.
    I have grammar anxiety.
    I have science anxiety.
    I have PE anxiety - in spades.
    Can I just go home now?

  3. bubble wrap by fluffernutter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just asked my 14 year old, who has social anxiety. Even he realizes that it is an important skill to have experience with, even though it scares the crap out of him. This seems to be a 'bubble wrapped child' problem.

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    1. Re:bubble wrap by Comrade+Ogilvy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, the students are correct to question and challenge the requirement. "We" should be able to explain to them why it is important, how those who are poor at this can learn to improve, and how/what kind of assistance is available to those who experience extreme discomfort.

      Throwing a label at these students only buttresses their suspicion: those adults who claim authority do not know crap.

  4. It's for real by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have an opposite fear: Sometimes I have to sit in an audience while someone who knows diddly squat about Open Source gives a speech about it (or even a keynote), and I would really like to engage them right in front of the audience and point out all of their mistakes, but in general that doesn't work for the audience. I just hate to sit through those things. About my most productive response was to write this in response to a completely clueless speaker.

    But how did I become a speaker? I had a neurological deficit resulting in a speech impediment and coordination problems. Throughout 1-12th grade, I took at least 10 years of either instruction from a speech pathologist or year-after-year enrollment in the school's rhetoric class (which wasn't really addressing a problem in speech pathology). So, any fear of audiences was beaten out of me.

    Most people hate and fear being in front of an audience. For some, the solution really is for them to one-on-one with a teacher. But for most, the solution would be early instruction that makes them more comfortable with the situation. The sink-or-swim method of just putting them in the front of the room is probably not the right way.

  5. discriminatory presentations by sdinfoserv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ya, in 20 years when you're too afraid to walk out the door, you be demanding that "universal basic income" because you never developed communication or personal skills and it's society's fault -you're just another victim.

  6. Re:Death metal helps by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Public speaking is an important skill, but it has nothing to do with, say, math. So should a kid get a bad grade in algebra because he gets nervous in front of a classroom?

    Martin Gardner turned down all invitations to speak, and said that he never felt comfortable speaking to a group of people.

    Seung-Hui Cho suffered from selective mutism, which caused him to be bullied by other students, and humiliated by a teacher who threatened to give him a failing grade if he wouldn't talk. On April 16th, 2007, he murdered 32 of his classmates.

  7. Re:Buddy of mine had the opposite by Immerman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who said anything about liking public speaking? You don't have to like it, you just have to *do* it. One of those life skills that, unless you never have to interview in your life, is going to come in handy no matter how much you hate it.

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  8. Re:Death metal helps by bane2571 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As someone that was heavily into Math and science in High School, not learning proper public speaking has been an extreme detriment to my career. IT is honestly the difference between a 75k back room support job and a 100k+ consulting position.

    "Knowing" is a super important thing for any person. "Demonstrating" that knowledge is often the key to success and if you can't speak publicly, you can't demonstrate.This is why we also teach handwriting and grammar in schools.