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Addiction To Fortnite Cited In Over 200 Divorce Petitions (dailydot.com)

An anonymous reader writes: In just the last 35 weeks, one online divorce site received over 200 petitions citing addiction to Fortnite and other online games as one of the reasons someone wanted a divorce. "[T]he dawn of the digital revolution has introduced new addictions," said a spokesperson for the company, also citing online pornography and social media. "These numbers equate to roughly 5% of the 4,665 petitions we have handled since the beginning of the year and as one of the largest filers of divorce petitions in the UK, is a pretty good indicator."

On the other hand, the A.V. Club notes that the web site's creators "have a vested interest in making divorce seem sexy and cool in a way that only 'You walked in front of the screen and a 10-year-old in Wyoming shot me dead so now I'm taking the house' truly can."

134 comments

  1. I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'You walked in front of the screen and a 10-year-old in Wyoming shot me dead so now I'm taking the house'

    Could you explain that more clearly?

    1. Re: I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Imagine playing an online competitive first person shooter using a bluetooth controller and being sat ten feet from the screen. Then your partner innocently forgets what you're doing and walks slowly in front of the screen obscuring your view. Meanwhile a kid playing the same game kills your character while you weren't watching.

    2. Re:I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You walked in front of the screen and a 10-year-old in Wyoming shot me dead so now I'm taking the house

      Fortnite player is interrupted by their spouse walking in front of the display. Another fortnite player — the 10-year old in Wyoming — attacks at that moment and kills the interrupted player. The interrupted player files for divorce.

      Question; are reporters lighter than normal people? I saw a weather channel guy struggling with the wind while other people were walking around fine.

    3. Re: I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Either the female* is playing Fortnite, or they're implying that the man will get the house. I either of those concepts hard to believe.
      *assuming heterosexual relationship.

    4. Re:I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by vlad30 · · Score: 4, Funny

      spouse walking in front of the display

      Now everything depends on if the spouse is naked

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    5. Re:I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by jellomizer · · Score: 0

      Well it is a combination of a lot of things.
      1. The TV reporters are probably lighter then most people. They are TV personalities so they work hard to meet difficult body image standards.
      2. Walking against the win is different then standing against it. When you are walking your body is constantly adjusting to forces applies to your body. If you are standing there the. These forces push you off balance and you are more noticeable trying to stand straight.
      3. They are probably acting it up a little. The point of the story it to take shelter and stay safe.

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    6. Re: I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, it isn't -- because you don't get the context.. only "OMG HE SAID ASSUMING HETROSEXUAL!!! ALL PEOPLE/RELATIONSHIPS/THINGS ARE IDENTICAL, POLITICAL THINK OR DIE!!!".

      It is well known that in the US (all countries have different laws, you know), that in divorces the female has MASSIVE, I repeat MASSIVE rights / case law / etc, which enables her to get a VASTLY unfair settlement. This historically at least had *some* sense to it, for historically women were seen as weak, pathetic creatures that were incapable of taking care of themselves. And really, even if a woman COULD take care of herself, job options / life choice options were limited.

      Fast forward to now, and the laws/case law/judgement weight still exists. So women get preferential treatment, and the laws are vastly slanted in their favour during a divorce. So yes, the concept of "the women would easily get the house, the male never would get the house" and "those concepts hard to believe" makes perfect sense.

      I always look to how people, when in a position of power, treat others. This shows what they TRULY believe, what they REALLY think. Either that, or it shows their 'grit', whether or not they would be a 'bully' given the chance.

      Women today claim equality, yet in soooo many cases of divorce I've witnessed, they just TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE. They have the POWER to TAKE, so they do.

      Wow. Great feminist there. Using the power of "Oh I'm a woman and so weak and pathetic that I need help" laws, to steal what would morally, and in most other countries legally, be split fairly.

      Of course, until I see an equal number of female janitors, garbage collectors, and conversely an equal number of male day care workers, I'll know that women don't truly believe they are equal.

    7. Re: I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not misogyny, you triggered little snowflake. Get yourself educated and maybe you won't look like such a fool next time.

    8. Re: I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facts are not misogynistic. Truth and reality override your lefty opinions.

    9. Re:I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      I loved that video, and it confirms all the suspicions I ever had about the lying media, but it’s totally off topic here. It should be a posted article in its own right.

    10. Re: I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by murdocj · · Score: 1

      why?

    11. Re:I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      spouse walking in front of the display

      Now everything depends on if the spouse is naked

      And pretty.

    12. Re: I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the measure of a man is how big a strawman they can build to support their whiney little worldview.

    13. Re:I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Do you ever wonder how you found yourself rationalizing corporate media fraud? It was a simple case of fake news; playing up non-existent conditions. But the whole concept of fake news has a political angle because your political opponents cite it frequently, both rightly and wrongly, so you argue for the other side; corporate media, owned and controlled by the wealthiest people on Earth, primarily for their own benefit.

      Amazing.

    14. Re: I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Solution: Don't be married in this country.

      Ha. Kidding. That's an oversimplification which ignores the range of how exploitative different women are (ie little to very), ignores the range of how fulfilling marriage can be, and tries to offer a one-line knee-jerk silver bullet to a complicated scenario, which is never a good sign.

      But that's appraisal at large. "So do those remarks mean you'll give marriage a try AC?" "Oh *hell* no."

      You may now ignore the points raised to insist AC here is unmarriageable.

    15. Re:I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      spouse walking in front of the display

      Now everything depends on if the spouse is naked

      And pretty.

      Mr. Willie says naked is enough.

    16. Re: I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by robsku · · Score: 1

      Yeah, grrls don't play games, right?

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    17. Re:I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      The news is real, however they are acting it up to get your attention.
      If you are going to be on TV, then you need to exaggerate your point, not lie. I am sure the reporters are fighting the wind, and it is dangerous. However they will exaggerate how hard they are to stand up. If they don't then people are not going to take the situation seriously. Hey look at that 90lbs reporter, she can deal with 100mph winds, my house should be fine.

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    18. Re: I'm sorry, but I couldn't parse this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not married are you?

  2. What's this then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bottom-of-the-barrel day? Or is this really just the best EditorDavid can do?

  3. yabh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    YetAnotherBadHeadline courtesy of /. editors.

    "and other online games"

    Online games being cited in divorce filings started happening long before the typical Fortnite player was even born.

    1. Re:yabh by TranquilVoid · · Score: 1

      I'm over 50% sure this is deliberate as it generates comments likes yours (and mine), and like publicity, when it comes to a forum, any comments is a good comment.

  4. Fortnite vs nagging wife by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Fortnite wins every time. Woohoo! *arm swing dance*

  5. Maybe or maybe not. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Informative

    So, according to Internets, in the UK you can't just get divorced, you need to have a reason. (Internets would lie to me would it?)

    In order to start divorce proceedings in England or Wales, you first need to have been married for at least 12 months.

    To file a divorce petition against your spouse you must prove to the court that your marriage has irretrievably broken down by establishing one of the following grounds for divorce:

    * Adultery
    * Desertion
    * Unreasonable Behaviour
    * Separation of 2 years with consent
    * Separation of 5 years - no consent required

    I sure there are legit cases of addiction to gaming but I get the feeling that it's really just one contributing factor to an unhappy marriage that is being used as an easy target for "Unreasonable Behaviour". The real question is if the number of divorces has increased or have the reasons for divorce simply shifted.

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    1. Re:Maybe or maybe not. by jellomizer · · Score: 0

      Well if we assume it is the guy playing the game and playing with a female character you could bring up adultry because he is spending all his time looking at the animated cartoon curvy butt.
      Being that is isn’t involved with the wife or household activity we can say desertion.
      Unreasonable behavior yelling and screaming and cursing when some kid kills you.

      I agree though that there are probably other things going on too. But I expect they may be able to pull some legal excuses to get the point across to meet the law requirement.

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    2. Re:Maybe or maybe not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the US, the catch-all is "Unreconcilable Differences".
      The solution is to play together for a shorter time and get a babysitter if needed.

      Once a gamer, always a gamer.

    3. Re:Maybe or maybe not. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Desertion

      That would qualify for the gaming addicted.

    4. Re:Maybe or maybe not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well if we assume it is the guy playing the game and playing with a female character you could bring up adultry because he is spending all his time looking at the animated cartoon curvy butt.

      If any woman can't compete against a "animated cartoon curvy butt," she deserves to be divorced and die alone in the same manner that men are divorced and die alone for not being competitive themselves.

    5. Re:Maybe or maybe not. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      They are trying to make a "no fault" divorce possible because it's become clear that these requirements are a bit antiquated.

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    6. Re:Maybe or maybe not. by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Yes, the 5 years separation part is a burden to quite a few, when one spouse refuses to consent to the divorce.

    7. Re:Maybe or maybe not. by Blue+Stone · · Score: 4, Informative

      They're actually in the process of changing this right now, so that 'no fault' divorces can happen.

      https://www.theguardian.com/li...

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    8. Re:Maybe or maybe not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My intuition is that gaming has not made divorce more likely.

      What HAS made divorce more likely than ever before is simply this: it is super-easy to do, and there are no harmful consequences.

      Once upon a time, if a woman got divorced, she suffered significant social stigma, from men and women alike, and her life sucked pretty bad from then on. Men suffered social stigmas too, of course, but they were more capable of earning a decent living anyway due to the gender imbalance in the working world.

      BUT......

      Now there is no social stigma at all. Women, in particular, are cheered on by their peers, congratulated for their courage in throwing off oppression. On top of that they get bonus prizes: the courts are still heavily biased in favor of women (despite the fact that women can earn as much as men now, in any field). So women get to walk away with quite a lot more than the man is left with, on top of whatever they earn on their own.

      The men get the short end of that stick, financially, but with the social stigma gone many of them are finding even that to be preferable to staying married.

      So, divorce is too easy. That means that people don't think about marriage properly when deciding to enter in to it. They no longer consider it a true lifelong commitment, but rather, something to "try out" for a few years and abandon if it doesn't work out. With that attitude, people are simply not vetting their partners well enough, and they are also not trying hard enough to make it work. They just up and quit. And that is the widespread trend.

      It is a pretty harmful trend. Kids raised by single parents are far more likely to wind up in jail, and further to repeat the mistakes of their single parents. It is a terrible downward spiral. I am not sure there is any way out of it.

      Lastly.....once up on a time marriages were mostly religious. Staying married was an act of obedience to God. These days, people have realized that the religious teachings don't come with any evidence, and are kind of weird. The fall of religion might be a victory for truth and reason, but it has not done marriage any favors at all. Non-religious marriages are more likely to fail than religious marriages, regardless of who is right.

      So, there you have it.
       

    9. Re:Maybe or maybe not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the one hand, "no fault" divorces are a clear victory for freedom.

      On the other hand, the easier divorce is, the more it happens. This ensuing breakdown of the family unit is a clear loss for our culture. In defense of that last statement, I will add that children raised by single parents are far more likely to wind up in jail, and to also wind up as single parents. That downward spiral is a problem.

      I don't think that a return to ancient superstitions, and the obligations that come with them, is the right way out of that downward spiral. But I do think that the current state of affairs makes it harder and more dangerous than ever to have and raise children well.

  6. Got It Backwards by mentil · · Score: 4, Informative

    'You walked in front of the screen and a 10-year-old in Wyoming shot me dead so now I'm taking the house'

    Pretty sure it's more like "you spend more time yelling racial slurs at 10 year olds than acknowledging that your spouse exists."
    Fortnite could be Madden, Call of Duty, et cetera. They were called 'Everquest widows' back in the day.

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    1. Re:Got It Backwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you been spying on me???

    2. Re:Got It Backwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ignoring a spouse to play video games is a symptom of a bad marriage. Not the cause.

    3. Re: Got It Backwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Found the person who doesn't enjoy games...

      You could flip that easily by saying "being annoyed by your spouse's hobbies is a symptom of a broken marriage."

    4. Re: Got It Backwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Both are true. Point being that if one or both buries the self in something else to the exclusion of their marriage then the marriage has issues. That other thing could be anything: games, work, gambling, gym, other people, anything.

      Those are symptoms not causes.

    5. Re:Got It Backwards by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I knew about a guy who was the main tank for a guild on my server back in the days of World of Warcraft 1.0. The guy went to get a sandwich halfway through a Molten Core raid, only to discover a note from his wife saying that she had taken the kids and was leaving for Florida to be with her parents because he was too addicted to the game (apparently he had logged 120 days of played time in the first year that the game was out).

      He got his sandwich and finished the raid before going after his wife and kids.

      He finally got her to come back by promising that he’d auction his character off on eBay, but then he posted it for a price he knew it would never sell at and then bragged about his cleverness on his guild’s forums...which is when he discovered that his wife read the forums. In the end, he was forced to sell the character for less and their marriage survived, though by the time I quit the game a year later, he was playing again on another character.

    6. Re: Got It Backwards by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

    7. Re:Got It Backwards by dargaud · · Score: 1

      Fortnite could be Madden, Call of Duty, et cetera.

      Right. If my significant other (or kids for that matter) had such an addiction, I'd change their hosts file to include a line such as 0.0.0.0 fortnite.com and solve the problem for good.

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    8. Re:Got It Backwards by iampiti · · Score: 1

      So he had been playing an average of 8 hours per day since release date? I guess that guy had a job. I can see why the wife wanted to run away.
      I know some women complain when their SOs play even a bit of videogames but in this case she had reason to be angry

    9. Re:Got It Backwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Games like World of Warcraft are designed to exploit human psychology. The design team includes psychologists who understand the nature of human addiction, and consult on how to make the game absolutely as addictive as possible.

      It doesn't work on everyone, of course. Some people just don't like the genre of game (or computer games at all), and as such the mechanisms don't have a chance to take hold. But plenty of people are vulnerable to this kind of thing, and they wind up so addicted that their life falls apart around them.

      It is easy to say "well, they just have addictive personalities....if it wasn't World of Warcraft, it would be something else." In some cases that is true. In many cases, the "something else" wouldn't be as consuming of their attention, by virtue of not having been designed specifically to entrap their minds.

    10. Re:Got It Backwards by pslytely+psycho · · Score: 1

      BE CAREFUL!

      If you type 'Host File' three times APK will appear!
      Damn, that makes two......

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    11. Re:Got It Backwards by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      This kind of article always makes me think about my own life and whether or not I'm treading too close to some line. I probably clock up similar hours on various videos games. But I usually get my share of the household chores done without complaint along with my parental duties. I did give up MMO's though shortly after getting married, I need to be able to pause or walk away from a game at the drop of a hat to take care of whatever thing has come up, and I'd feel badly doing that to a dozen or more people in an MMO raid situation or group dungeon. My Wife complains sometimes when I get in a particularly marathon session or the kids have been particularly bad. But she's also pointed out a number of times how glad she is that I'm not a big sports fan or hunter. She has friends whose husbands expect them to host or attend football parties throughout the whole season. And others that joke about being hunting widows whenever deer season rolls around. While I might always be playing a video game, she always knows where I am and can get my attention at a moments notice.

    12. Re:Got It Backwards by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      This kind of article always makes me think about my own life and whether or not I'm treading too close to some line. I probably clock up similar hours on various videos games. But I usually get my share of the household chores done without complaint along with my parental duties. I did give up MMO's though shortly after getting married, I need to be able to pause or walk away from a game at the drop of a hat to take care of whatever thing has come up, and I'd feel badly doing that to a dozen or more people in an MMO raid situation or group dungeon. My Wife complains sometimes when I get in a particularly marathon session or the kids have been particularly bad. But she's also pointed out a number of times how glad she is that I'm not a big sports fan or hunter. She has friends whose husbands expect them to host or attend football parties throughout the whole season. And others that joke about being hunting widows whenever deer season rolls around. While I might always be playing a video game, she always knows where I am and can get my attention at a moments notice.

      The general symptom of "addiction" is you're basically doing it to the exclusion of all else. I.e., you'd rather play your video game than do your chores, do your job, attend to the needs of your family, feed yourself, get enough sleep, etc.

      As long as you're able to keep up with the demands of everyday life and you're able to stop when needed, it's generally safe to assume you're not addicted. You may have marathon sessions which happens from time to time (any hobby does) but if your wife is generally happy and you contribute back afterwards, it should be OK.

      As in, maybe after your marathon session is over, you take her out (or the entire family out) to do something together to make up for the absence. It doesn't have to cost much (i.e., you don't have to take them out to fancy restaurant or a movie), just do something as a family together everyone enjoys, whether it's board games, video games (as a family), a walk in the park, etc.

      The unfortunate thing is you can't tell how close to the line you are until it's too late - most wives just silently stew on it until it explodes. That's why you defuse the situation by doing things as a family together. It's hard to argue when you're also spending quality time with the family, and even more so after a marathon session where you might have ignored them for a day to make it up.

  7. This is good for the human race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...because it helps to delay population overshoot. But we still have a long way to go before we can call it a solved problem.

  8. No correlation. by Rip!ey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Unless there has been a comparable increase in the rate of change of the number of divorce applications, then this is a non-story.

    People who want a divorce, that are required to give reason to get one, will find one. If it wasn't Fortnite, it would be something else. If it wasn't computer games, it would be something else.

    1. Re: No correlation. by houghi · · Score: 1

      On the other side, these people where unhappy and went to computergames, instead of the pub or, as I have seen, overtime at work.
      In Europe, doing a lot of unpaid overtime that nobody asked for can be seen that there are issues elsewhere, like at home.

      And even if the player here is a bit blamed, the issues, most likely, come from both sides.

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    2. Re:No correlation. by Ranbot · · Score: 1

      Unless there has been a comparable increase in the rate of change of the number of divorce applications, then this is a non-story.

      People who want a divorce, that are required to give reason to get one, will find one. If it wasn't Fortnite, it would be something else. If it wasn't computer games, it would be something else.

      Relatedly, if a marriage sucks participants may look for ways to escape it mentally and videogames are a form of escapism. That doesn't mean videogames causes divorce. A shitty marriage is still the cause of divorce.

  9. Divorce Cool? by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    in a way that only 'You walked in front of the screen and a 10-year-old in Wyoming shot me dead so now I'm taking the house' truly can.

    This isn't a description of a "cool" divorce. This is a description of an "inevitable" divorce.

    1. Re:Divorce Cool? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a description of an "inevitable" divorce.

      Yeah, nothing says die in pain like walking in front of someone's game.

    2. Re:Divorce Cool? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Yeah, nothing says die in pain like walking in front of someone's game.

      Hahha That's the exact opposite of what I meant, but funny none the less :-)

  10. Lightweight reporters.. by thesupraman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, reporters are very light.
    It's a little known fact that they continuously produce large amounts of internal hot air. If they do not constantly emit this hot air they can actually float away and vanish.
    This is why they spend most of their time talkingb complete rubbish, in an attempt to emit as much hot air as possible.

    You should feel sorry for them, as there is little time left to do anything actually useful with their lives.

  11. The roof of these addictions by lucasnate1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fortnite is not special, neither is alcohol nor weed nor pills nor social networks. The only thing that IS special, is that our reality is intolerable for more and more people, and they find forms of escape. Can you blame them? For many people, life is just going to work, not having anyone they are close to, and if they are a man, knowing that they are never allowed to cry or express frustration (I guess there is some parallel for women, but I'm not a woman so I do not feel like I should say how they feel). Frankly, I suspect that a lot of modern technology and economy are just dedicated to create ways for people to escape the empty lives that they have.

    1. Re:The roof of these addictions by Kjella · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The only thing that IS special, is that our reality is intolerable for more and more people, and they find forms of escape. Can you blame them?

      I guess every generation have to find their own sob story about why they're angsty teens, but honestly... what the fuck is so wrong with society today? For the most part we have all our basic needs met, in fact the only thing I can think of is that we're so independent and socially liberal that nobody wants partner with uninteresting people because of economic dependence or social pressure or they got pregnant. Today she gets an abortion, there's no shotgun wedding.

      and if they are a man, knowing that they are never allowed to cry or express frustration

      What? Has there ever been a point in history where the male role has been less macho? In fact, many men struggle to find the balance between still being a gentleman and not behaving in a way a modern woman finds condescending. And how to functionally date when it's not like I'll wine and dine you and you'll sleep with me. And use #metoo as an excuse to say that ordinary flirting and dating has become impossible, as if "grab her by the pussy" is ordinary dating behavior. If you think that, maybe that's the problem...

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    2. Re:The roof of these addictions by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      the only thing I can think of is that we're so independent and socially liberal that nobody wants partner with uninteresting people

      The thing is, this is how friendships are created, when you have no choice and end up hanging out with people and a connection is created. Today there is a fake feeling of plenty that makes people feel like they always have tons of options, that is, until they turn off the PC/phone and realize they are alone. I think that socially, we are suffering from analysis paralysis, both romantically and just with finding friends.

      What? Has there ever been a point in history where the male role has been less macho?

      Both patriarchy and feminism still deny a man from crying, the first because he should be strong, the second because he is a priviliged potential rapist.

      If you think that, maybe that's the problem...

      See? immediately, because I am a man, you assume me to be some kind of a monster, which proves my point.

      Finally, I do agree with you about one thing. It is quite possible that this is one of the better periods in history. While I personally think that the 70s were better, I do agree that in general, the last 100 years are probably better than the one before them. However, I think that many old problems still exist, and technology doesn't solve them, but only mask them. Entertainment has taken over the role of religion as an escape mechanism for the masses. Maybe this is inevitable, maybe this is the human condition, I don't know. If you manage to be happy, good for you, but I think that throughout history, many people used drugs and alcohol and faith and books and now online entertainment, in order to escape the fact that their life just plain sucks.

    3. Re:The roof of these addictions by DaMattster · · Score: 1

      Fortnite is not special, neither is alcohol nor weed nor pills nor social networks. The only thing that IS special, is that our reality is intolerable for more and more people, and they find forms of escape. Can you blame them? For many people, life is just going to work, not having anyone they are close to, and if they are a man, knowing that they are never allowed to cry or express frustration (I guess there is some parallel for women, but I'm not a woman so I do not feel like I should say how they feel). Frankly, I suspect that a lot of modern technology and economy are just dedicated to create ways for people to escape the empty lives that they have.

      Reality has gotten really grim for many people because upward mobility is difficult, if not impossible now and people are looking for a way to escape the reality. This might also be a reason for the uptick in gun violence. The problem is the ever widening gap between the wealthy and working classes.

    4. Re:The roof of these addictions by thePsychologist · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Also, this situation is perfect for the ultra rich, and why there is such a high tolerance amongst execs for piracy. It keeps everyone else distracted with their media consumption while they continue to take the majority of the wealth.

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    5. Re:The roof of these addictions by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      For the most part we have all our basic needs met,

      I don't think that we do.

      in fact the only thing I can think of is that we're so independent and socially liberal that nobody wants partner with uninteresting people because of economic dependence or social pressure or they got pregnant. Today she gets an abortion, there's no shotgun wedding.

      That example is progress. It means less spouse abuse. But you're right, we don't have communities any more. Nobody wants to try to work with people they don't like. Instead, they just shit all over them until they go away. Or, you know, commit suicide. Or lash out, and hurt other people.

      We used to have acceptable forms of behavior. People who couldn't fit into them were persecuted. Now we don't, and everyone acts like an asshole. We went from losing to losing.

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    6. Re:The roof of these addictions by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So, you realize things are better for humanity than they have ever been in history, right? Because they are.

      This whole, "*whine* but it's not perfect" attitude needs to die in a fire.

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    7. Re:The roof of these addictions by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Fortnite is not special, neither is alcohol nor weed nor pills nor social networks. The only thing that IS special, is that our reality is intolerable for more and more people, and they find forms of escape. Can you blame them?

      Actually I do blame them, because I’m old enough to remember how much worse life was fifty and sixty years ago compared to today. Racism everywhere, huge wars being fought over totally pointless causes (Ask your nail girl to describe her childhood), three billion people starving to death in India and China, massive urban air pollution, and the threat of thermonuclear annihilation hanging over our heads.

      Those who forget the past are condemned to bitch about the present.

    8. Re:The roof of these addictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you blame them?

      Yes.

    9. Re:The roof of these addictions by thePsychologist · · Score: 1

      Actually I do blame them, because Iâ(TM)m old enough to remember how much worse life was fifty and sixty years ago compared to today.

      True enough, but anyone has a probability of ending up in a really shitty situation. Even if it's a small probability, the fact that there are so many people on this planet means some will slip through the cracks.

      Look, if the worse conditions of days past compared to today was the only thing keeping everyone from attaining happiness, then we probably would have solved that problem long ago.

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      "What lies behind us, and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." Ralph Waldo Emerson
    10. Re: The roof of these addictions by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1

      Yeah sure, everybody who does not agree with you need to die in a fire, goddamn ingrates should appreciate the fact that they live in a world where nobody thinks they should burn for their opinions.

    11. Re: The roof of these addictions by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1

      Guess if I was chinese or indian I would be happy about it. Are you?

    12. Re:The roof of these addictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually I do blame them, because I’m old enough to remember how much worse life was fifty and sixty years ago compared to today. Racism everywhere, huge wars being fought over totally pointless causes (Ask your nail girl to describe her childhood), three billion people starving to death in India and China, massive urban air pollution, and the threat of thermonuclear annihilation hanging over our heads.

      Those who forget the past are condemned to bitch about the present.

      Dude, pull your head out of the sand and look around. These problems have not been fixed. Some may be better in the U.S. There are plenty of wars being fought (there just is not a U.S. draft--but plenty of people in perpetual wars), plenty of starving and disease, plenty of pollution (yes, lakes may not be catching fire in the U.S. right now, but things like the Pacific Garbage patch and Global warming were not such a big deal in your day).

      Additionally, I will tell you that I managed to "make it." However, there is a significant portion of the population that is working far harder than their parents did and not doing as well. Some of this has to do with the world has become more competitive, more globalized, there are more people vying for the same resources, and more automated. However, there is nothing worse than an old ass-hat telling the younger generation how great the world is.

    13. Re:The roof of these addictions by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      I guess every generation have to find their own sob story about why they're angsty teens, but honestly... what the fuck is so wrong with society today?

      Same as it is every day. It's inhabited by a monkey[*] evolved primarily to live on the African planes. Turns out that monkey is only so-so at living in a high tech area where gorging on everything in sight is not a good survival strategy.

      in fact the only thing I can think of is that we're so independent and socially liberal that nobody wants partner with uninteresting people because of economic dependence or social pressure or they got pregnant. Today she gets an abortion, there's no shotgun wedding.

      You think the fact that women (and men, though you seem to single out womenhere) aren't forcibly married to someone they don't want to marry is what is wrong with us? I'd say that's one of the things that's very mugh right about us.

      What? Has there ever been a point in history where the male role has been less macho?

      For the current values of macho, yes. In the past, men had very deep, emotional and expressively so relationships with each other. With the rise of "uurrr no homo" this has largely vanished. This means that men are often without emptional support that they did have in previous eras. Seriously, go ready some man-to-man letters from some of the golden ages of macho men being manly. They can be touchingly deeply emptional in a way which is frankly hard to picture now.

      In fact, many men struggle to find the balance between still being a gentleman and not behaving in a way a modern woman finds condescending.

      With friends like you, men don't need enemies.

      And how to functionally date when it's not like I'll wine and dine you and you'll sleep with me.

      See my previous statement 10fold. That forumula like so many things we appear to consider "historical" was from the 1950s.

      [*] There's a good argument that apes are a type of monkey as monkeys (new world) and apes are closer then monkeys (old world).

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    14. Re:The roof of these addictions by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      feminism still deny a man from crying,

      No it doesn't. This is you getting your idea of what feminism is from Reddit or Gab.

      While I personally think that the 70s were better

      If you were a well to do straight white dude, then maybe?

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    15. Re:The roof of these addictions by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Those who forget the past are condemned to bitch about the present.

      Humans are condemned to bitch about the present. That's how humans work.

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    16. Re:The roof of these addictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what the fuck is so wrong with society today? For the most part we have all our basic needs met,

      Understand: human instinct disallows sustained contentedness.

      We evolved to survive in a world where sitting around relaxing all the time means you are likely to starve to death, get killed/eaten, or get rejected by your pack. Contentedness is an appropriate emotion for short bursts between active focus on activities that further our survival.

      We constantly seek contentedness, but after a few hours of it we lose the ability to cope with it. We experience boredom and even depression if we bliss out for too long.

      The particular symptoms vary, but the cause is the same. Having our basic needs met is not enough. And so we remain driven by a vague sense of needing to do something important, but that "something important" is an ever-retreating carrot on a stick.

      That isn't everything, of course. But it is one important thing.

    17. Re: The roof of these addictions by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1

      No, this is me getting the idea of feminism from most feminists I have met, which were, btw, much more privileged than me. I am neither white nor did I start very well to do in comparison with many blleding hearts.

      Did you ever notice this btw? How people in the populist right are always poorer than those of the populist left? Or maybe it is just in my country.

    18. Re: The roof of these addictions by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      No, this is me getting the idea of feminism from most feminists I have met, which were, btw, much more privileged than me.

      Sounds like you haven't been listening very hard then. "Male privilige" (a somewhat silly word, but there you go) doesn't mean that every man is more priviliged than every woman. Not does it mean that feminists can't come from priviliged backgounds.

      You culd ask your feminist friends about the privilige concept and what it means if you like.

      Did you ever notice this btw? How people in the populist right are always poorer than those of the populist left?

      Don't know which country you live in. In the UK and the US, there are populists on both sides, but poorer people tend to vote left in the UK and Democrat in the US.

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    19. Re:The roof of these addictions by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      I divorced my exwife mainly because of World of Warcraft.

      Addiction can be real! It isn't just a hobby as WOW in particular is designed or was in the early days to get you included and hooked. Leveling is great ... but man you want to see that new continent or get that awesome purple dagger to kick ass well shit you need to do the time and get some gold. Ok now you have that purple dagger but you SUCK at PVP ... you need rep points with the Korin Tor at Dalaran. That takes A LONG while. Wahoo now you don't suck at PVP ... but man your mount is slllooow ... etc. Then comes raiding.

      With raiding it is a commitment. You will get your ass benched and kicked off if you can't get your ass on from 10pm - 2am four nights for Naxx! ... oh shit you loose 500 gold repairs a night?? Well shit, you need more gold and your guild needs potients for healing and damage ... that requires 2 to 3 hours of herb gathering BEFORE YOU START your 10pm raid?!

      You get the picture but that was my ex wifes life from 2009 to 2011. I had enough. Kids homework wasn't done. House was a wreck. We had the christmas tree up in June when I wanted to play with her as I wanted SOME time with my wife.

      Long story short yes we had problems too during the great recession when this shit hit the fan at the time and we were both looking for an escape like you said but this was no other. In the end I went back to the house to discuss to serve my exwife the divorce players. I told her I am willing to discuss options and work on things. Her response? Um, not now I have raid in 15 minutes??!! WTF! I went ballistic and she started throwing glass at me and I screamed I am divorcing your ass for sure now enjoy your raid as you care more about it than our marriage!

      That was screwed up but I learned a lesson and to this day video games lost it's lore even if I was the man and not the woman in the relationship I can see how she would feel. My ex did try to work it out but I was gone and too angry at that point.

    20. Re: The roof of these addictions by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      I said the attitude needs to die in a fire, genius. Way to deliberately misunderstand what I said, just because it made you feel bad.

      Things are better today than they have ever been in human history. Ever. And morons STILL can't think of anything to do but complain that everything isn't perfect. Boo-hoo-hoo. Jesus Christ, the ingratitude. The total lack of perspective.

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    21. Re: The roof of these addictions by robsku · · Score: 1

      If I may ask, what country is that? I'll go first: I'm from Finland, and men can cry here without anyone but the lowest brows thinking that he is not a man because cry.

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      In capitalist USA corporations control the government.
    22. Re: The roof of these addictions by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1

      Israel. Here it feels like being a leftist/feminist is mostly a status symbol used by people who's parents or parents' parents belonged to the founding elite of Israel.

    23. Re: The roof of these addictions by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1

      I am sorry, I meant to say "whose" :(

    24. Re:The roof of these addictions by mjwx · · Score: 2

      and if they are a man, knowing that they are never allowed to cry or express frustration

      What? Has there ever been a point in history where the male role has been less macho? In fact, many men struggle to find the balance between still being a gentleman and not behaving in a way a modern woman finds condescending. And how to functionally date when it's not like I'll wine and dine you and you'll sleep with me. And use #metoo as an excuse to say that ordinary flirting and dating has become impossible, as if "grab her by the pussy" is ordinary dating behavior. If you think that, maybe that's the problem...

      Yes, most of history. The idea of "machoism" is a very modern one, previous to the 1900's and a romanticism about the wild west, Nelson's navy and other things that are falsely portrayed, people were broadly divided into the ruling elite who were quite effeminate (see: fops v dandies) and the working class who were quite submissive.

      Prior to the 1800's systems were existed to enforce gender roles, I.E. women weren't permitted the vote or in many countries simply to work. The idea of universal suffrage is still extremely new. The first country to give women the full vote was Australia in 1902. Fortunately today no such systems exist in the west, but some people desperately want to bring them back.

      However that is besides the point, if you think your manhood is threatened by powerful women, that is not a failure of males, that is a failure of your own fragile ego. If you have trouble getting a date, that is also likely due to your fragile ego. I am not Brad Pitt, I don't have the moves like Jagger but I do have a girlfriend (who is far too good for me, never be afraid of punching above your weight class). I'm pretty sure she likes me because I'm nice and because I can talk about issues that are bothering me (and/or her).

      However I await the inevitable mod down for suggesting that the Kjella has created his own problem and there is no systemic conspiracy against men. Hell, I'll go one further and say the GP has hit the nail right on the head (speaking of nailing, if you really want to feel manly, get a hobby like wood or metal working, if building something with your own two hands doesn't make you feel like a man then you have serious mental issues) a big problem in western societies is that we're expected to conform to some outdated notion of being a man that never really existed, this notion means you're not permitted to have emotions, let alone express them. The idea that we all have to be macho men is causing the problem, not fixing them. I do not feel emasculated by women as I don't need validation their validation, I also don't hate them.

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      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
    25. Re:The roof of these addictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL at "racism everywhere". Is there much "racism" in China, India, or Africa? Or are you only referring to white people, who want to simply live around their own kind? Why should only white people have to become minorities in their own countries? Serious question. Quite clearly we never asked for mass immigration.

    26. Re:The roof of these addictions by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Fortnite is not special, neither is alcohol nor weed nor pills nor social networks. The only thing that IS special, is that our reality is intolerable for more and more people, and they find forms of escape. Can you blame them?

      Actually I do blame them, because I’m old enough to remember how much worse life was fifty and sixty years ago compared to today. Racism everywhere, huge wars being fought over totally pointless causes (Ask your nail girl to describe her childhood), three billion people starving to death in India and China, massive urban air pollution, and the threat of thermonuclear annihilation hanging over our heads.

      Those who forget the past are condemned to bitch about the present.

      I remember being a poor kid in 80's Australia (we still had a lot of racist dickheads back then, particularly in poor white neighbourhoods). Apart from the better music and maybe a nice manual MKIV Supra RZ (unmolested, they're as rare as hens teeth now), I don't really want to go back.

      However I don't blame people for wanting play Fortnite, games are fun. Who I blame are the people trying to call it an addiction. If people are getting divorced because one party is playing too much Fortnight then that's a failure of both parties to sort out their problems. Fortnite was just the catalyst, not the cause of the divorce, even without Fortnite the divorce would still happen.

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    27. Re: The roof of these addictions by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1

      I live in Israel, as can be seen by my signature (there's not plenty of people who would be interested in hebrew outside of Israelis).

      I had a lot of talks with my feminist friends and my conclusions are based on them. I do agree that the the older generations (people above 35 or 40) ususally have saner definitions of feminism, but the young generation is mostly privileged little assholes (people with money from their parents, who don't have to work).

      Regarding the UK and the US, where can I find any reference to poor people voting left? I thought it was like in my country, but maybe I'm wrong. In Israel, right and left are also strongly connected to different jewish ethnicities. An imaginary american parallel would be a case where the more left leaning a party is, the more white it is, while the more populist-right-wing a party is, the more ethnically diverse it is.

  12. Gaming addiction exists by Qbertino · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A friend of mine is hooked. He was in a multi year layoff phase and this summer finally departed from his employer. He got himself a ps4 a few years back and started playing division and WoT. After posting with his employer he's been doing that full time basically.

    The thing is I totally get it. A good game and a good clan can keep you hooked for years. It's like surfing, climbing or some other awesome pastime. I was hooked to Argentine tango for 10 years. My life revolved around travelling around and often dancing 5 to 7 times a week, swapping my career for the tango bum life. I met women men usually can only dream of and had the most amazing pr0nstyle sex imaginable. But the big plus of tango that is that it comes with a very special kind of social life, which is why it's so awesome.
    I also was hooked to unreal tournament back in 2000 and played that for a year or two a few hours per day.
    But here's where I see addiction: I didn't totally void my social life and - this is the most important thing - didn't feel bad about it. So yea it had qualities off addiction, but I didn't use it to avoid uncomfortable situations. I actually made the active decision to live as a Tango bum and a hardcore gamer and kept up with my non addicted peers. Sort of.

    My buddy OTOH won't even open the door for me or answer my texts for 3 months on end. Everyone is worried. His landlord, his brother, his mother, me, my daughter -who's uncle he basically is ... And so forth. That's not healthy. AFAIAC he can game for 10 years I a row. He had no family, enough resources and lives alone. Bit out is blatantly obvious that he's in a rut and needs a friendly asskick from his best friend the next the next time I get to see him.

    So yeah, divorcing over fortnite? ITotallyGetThat.

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    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
    1. Re:Gaming addiction exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A friend of mine is hooked. He was in a multi year layoff phase and this summer finally departed from his employer. He got himself a ps4 a few years back and started playing division and WoT. After posting with his employer he's been doing that full time basically.

      The thing is I totally get it. A good game and a good clan can keep you hooked for years. It's like surfing, climbing or some other awesome pastime. I was hooked to Argentine tango for 10 years. My life revolved around travelling around and often dancing 5 to 7 times a week, swapping my career for the tango bum life. I met women men usually can only dream of and had the most amazing pr0nstyle sex imaginable. But the big plus of tango that is that it comes with a very special kind of social life, which is why it's so awesome.

      I'm in a tango quartet [music not dance]; am handsome, but never had an experience like you describe. I must bee doing it wrong.

    2. Re:Gaming addiction exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's PRAWN style sex. Probably best not to go into detail.

  13. Dirty little number about divorce by MikeRT · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Depending on the source, women initiate between 70 and 80% of all divorces in the US. Most of them are "no fault."

    Now women are starting to notice more and more that there aren't as many eligible bachelors around as there "should be."

    Well, it's quite simple: the opposite sex responds to the way they're treated in the aggregate both consciously and unconsciously.

    The whole system is FUBAR because it is the worst combination of conservative white knighting and feminism. It maintains the rules on who pays what and allows women to say "well, I'm just not in lurrrvv with you anymore, so bye--and thanks for half of the shit your bigger paycheck paid for."

    1. Re: Dirty little number about divorce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Of course, none of that is pertinent because this is a UK based divorce solicitor. The UK does not have "no fault" divorce, so this is merely the latest in a long line of fad reasons to cite for "unreasonable behaviour". That's the fastest way to divorce aside from adultery. Just walking out on a marriage can take 5 years before you're even allowed to start the divorce process.

    2. Re:Dirty little number about divorce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is one of the reasons why I will not consider marriage.

      Men, in my society, are treated as disposable. We do not matter. We're not even allowed to have an opinion and, god forbid, if you disagree with a woman (real or not) you're instantly a sexist. The courts are stacked heavily against us. Divorce happening? Woman gets AT LEAST half of everything. Woman gets custody of children. You are slandered and dragged through the mud. She, however, is a perfect little pearl.

      Did she sleep around on you? Well, obviously it is the man's fault for not satisfying her in bed. You may be working 50-60 hours a week while she stays home or works part time, but you're still the lazy one. You're not doing enough. She puts on 100 pounds and treats you like crap? Well, it's your fault for not being interested or romantic anymore.

      I've seen this happen to some of my friends. I'm not letting it happen to me.

    3. Re:Dirty little number about divorce by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      If you can survive to be my age, it’s Surf City: two girls for every boy.

    4. Re:Dirty little number about divorce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Did she sleep around on you? Well, obviously it is the man's fault for not satisfying her in bed. You may be working 50-60 hours a week while she stays home or works part time, but you're still the lazy one. You're not doing enough. She puts on 100 pounds and treats you like crap? Well, it's your fault for not being interested or romantic anymore.

      This is exactly what happened to me in my last relationship. I did most of the work, did all the dishes, cooked all the food, and went to school, and got dumps for some loser who did none of those things. After she had a kid she sent me an email saying she regretted her decisions, by which time it was way way way too late for regrets.

      I know beyond any shadow of a doubt that the problem was her upbringing. Her mother was an alcoholic who provided her with no useful information (didn't know shit about shit) and who had hooked up with a man who she called an asshole all the time... who did all the work and paid all the bills.

      Happily, I didn't get married, so I only wound up homeless and destitute at the time, I didn't incur any additional debt.

    5. Re:Dirty little number about divorce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've played a thousand hours of PUBG.

      I am 38, unmarried, retired, in shape, good looking, and a self made millionaire. This isn't bragging since it's anonymous. It's to make a point. No thanks to all the fat, masculine women around. They can't compete with the fun of a good game and hanging out with my male friends and teammates.

      Plenty of great guys around. We just don't want these awful kind of women that modern women are. They're disgusting. They have nothing to offer.

    6. Re: Dirty little number about divorce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      England. This is about England. Scotland has its own legal system.

    7. Re:Dirty little number about divorce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And both girls are old hags if not outside than within, waiting to get their claws in and lock you down. Be very cautious or you will just be husband number two.

    8. Re:Dirty little number about divorce by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Men, in my society, are treated as disposable.

      What society are you in then, it doesn't sound familiar.

    9. Re:Dirty little number about divorce by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      and allows women to say "well, I'm just not in lurrrvv with you anymore, so bye

      There's plenty indefensible in the divorce system, but that isn't one of the bit. No one should ever be obliged to stay with someone they don't want to. Men just as much as women can in sane places (not the UK right now!) leave at any time for no reason.

      As for alimony and whatnot, yes if one partner went to work and the other stopped a career to raise the family, keep house etc then yes the labour was split so the proceeds of it should be too.

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    10. Re:Dirty little number about divorce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not doing enough.

      That is such a trap. If you both work full time, and you both split the chores 50/50, it is additionally on you to make sure that she is happy. That includes doing more than your 50% on both fronts, and spending more than your 50% on things for her. And whether or not that qualifies as enough has nothing to do with the proportion of sacrifice, and everything to do with whether or not she "feels" like it is enough.

      And she never will. Because becoming her servant also reduces your level of attractiveness to her. Its in the brain stem; women are attracted to leaders and not to servants (even her own servants). So doing enough to satisfy her desires is not doing enough to be attractive to her. And once you do what you must do to be attractive to her (that is to say, show some strength of personality, serve less and demand more, etc.) suddenly you are back to square 1 with not doing enough to satisfy her. It is impossible to win.

      If you do all the working and she does all the domestic-ing, the exact same problem still exists. But now its you not spending enough time with her, or not doing enough of the housework anyway, and on and on. No adjustment of proportions solves this problem because the problem is that "enough" is an ever-moving target.

      Of course, not all women are like that. But MOST of them are. And the prettier they are, the more likely they are to be like that (though, it isn't always true that the ugly ones are humbler and hence wiser...some of them are just more bitter).

      The ones that are truly marriage-worthy....they absolutely do exist....but they don't get divorced. They get married in their 20s and stay married their entire lives. Of course, when you are in your 20s looking for one to marry, you have *no idea* whether or not the one you have is one of the good ones. The *only* way to know is to go ahead and marry her, and see what happens. If she is a good one, you win. But 75% of the time, she is just another spoiled brat who will divorce you and take most of what you have with her, because you just couldn't satisfy her, no matter how hard you tried.

    11. Re:Dirty little number about divorce by Dusanyu · · Score: 1

      its also the fact that people thing that a marriage is throw away why bother to work things out when you ccan just get a Divorce its cheaper than marrage counseling. Also Guys is a silly video game worth half of your Crap and Not seeing your Kids ever again. because the family court system will F you over.

    12. Re:Dirty little number about divorce by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Who else is going to remember their passwords and be able to reboot their router during monsoon outages?

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  15. always two sides to every divorce story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Impossible to know if the spouse is primarily addicted, or simply retreating from an unfavorably behaving other spouse after not connecting well.

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  17. Bad information by markdavis · · Score: 2

    >"Addiction To Fortnite Cited In Over 200 Divorce Petitions"

    >"received over 200 petitions citing addiction to Fortnite and other online games as one of the reasons"

    >"also citing online pornography and social media."

    So which is it? 200 for Fornite, or the 200 games including Fortnite, or 200 computer addiction citings that include Fortnite? So it is all about addiction to Fortnite, gaming, or computers?

    1. Re: Bad information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The answer will amaze you!

  18. If you think you might have a problem, seek help. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  19. Dawn of the Digital Revolution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    "[T]he dawn of the digital revolution has introduced new addictions,"

    The "dawn of the digital revolution" was a LONG time ago.

    Perhaps they meant "The dawn of video games with design input from behavioral psychologists deliberately intended to be addicting has introduced new addictions."

  20. Treason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump = Treason

  21. Or the partners are just horrible people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And the games are an escape from that reality. Leading the the already inevitable divorce

  22. Tweeter addiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do women even notice anyone playing video games when they have their noses firmly burred in their cell phone tweeting and twatting and facefooking every second of the day?

  23. Fortnite is the new Everquest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An addicting online game that leads to divorces.

  24. Infinite Jest by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    So what is it that makes this one particular game so much more addictive than all the other games? Is it being distributed by French-Canadian wheelchair terrorists, or something?

    1. Re:Infinite Jest by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      No. It's just one of the most popular right now. A Big fat target for those with ideological axes to grind.

  25. Addiction comes in many types by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some are more prone to addictions then others. I guess if your happy sitting around playing fantasy video games why even get married? Or at least marry someone just as addicted to them.

    1. Re:Addiction comes in many types by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fact, there's very little reason to get married at all these days. Both men and women are being raised, now to be poor husbands and wives (and, by extension, fathers and mothers).

  26. I'll call it the Facebook Effect by evanh · · Score: 1

    Great for driving trends and influencing thinking.

    Recommendations in App stores is another case for this.

  27. Video games are a compatibility issue. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If video games are important to you, make sure to marry someone who also plays. Then the shared activity will strengthen the relationship.

    If you really don't like video games, make sure to marry someone who also doesn't like them, so they won't become a barrier between you.

    If you marry someone with whom you do not share common interests, then you are probably making a mistake.

  28. Re:As foretold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For the Mystery of Lawlessness is already working.

  29. Cause vs Effect. by gurps_npc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In general, everyone believes the 'minor' pleasant activity is a cause of the 'major' problem, when in fact it is almost always the opposite.

    I.E. when you have a major problem you tend to look for minor pleasures to make your life better.

    So when you are stuck in a crappy marriage with a slimy husband cheating on you (or a nagging wife - doesn't really matter which) then you start playing Fortnite. When they make your life really bad, you starting playing a LOT.

    Then when you get a divorce, they point at your constant Fortnite playing rather than admit their behavior was horrible.

    (General note, outside of arranged marriages, I have never ever seen a divorce that was even mostly one person's fault. At the very least the 'innocent' party knew the shmuck was a shmuck, decided to ignore the shmuck's bad behavior, married the shmuck, then complained that they were a shmuck. Duh.)

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  30. Heh, she can get rid of you as easily by MikeRT · · Score: 0

    Of course, none of that is pertinent because this is a UK based divorce solicitor

    All your wife has to do in the UK, 2018 to get rid of you is pay someone to photoshop you Nazi LARPing and posting a bunch of racist stuff on your FB account. Then once the police nab them another "bigot" she can probably divorce you for cause. So don't get too cocky with us Americans, mate.

    1. Re:Heh, she can get rid of you as easily by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      All your wife has to do in the UK, 2018 to get rid of you is pay someone to photoshop you Nazi LARPing and posting a bunch of racist stuff on your FB account. Then once the police nab them another "bigot" she can probably divorce you for cause. So don't get too cocky with us Americans, mate.

      This sounds entirely like something you simply made up because... actually I have no idea why you made it up. If you're going to attack divorce laws in the UK why not do it for one of the myriad good reasons?

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  31. Nothing new here by Bruinwar · · Score: 1

    Way back when my team was in a chat room setting up line-ups for a match we were starting. Quake 2. One guy, someone who recently practiced enough to be one of our best (he was playing ALL THE TIME) says this:

    "My wife just left"

    "& I don't think she's coming back"

    Next think ya know, he drops from IRC. We don't see him online for months. He actually saved his marriage. It's just a story but my point is that divorce over video game addiction (or golf, gambling, crack) is nothing new.

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    1. Re:Nothing new here by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      Shit, I remember back in the day when MUDs were breaking up RL marriages.

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    2. Re:Nothing new here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God I loved MUDs :|

  32. Re:If you think you might have a problem, seek hel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  33. fat man chicks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    When your country's women are masculine and fat, of course men are going to choose other interests instead of the women. This isn't addiction. This is choosing the better offer.

  34. It's capitalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem is capitalism dumb ass.
    I look forward to cutting your fucking head off with a bread knife in the upcoming class war.

  35. OK, I give up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's Fortnite? Some new drug?

  36. The point of Argentine Tango by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    The whole point of tango is hugging cute ladies. It started as a whores dance, and it still shows, even though the French turned that into an high art in the 1920ies.
    I have a diploma in performing arts (mainly dancing) and was into the European tango nomad scene for a few years. It's basically middle to higher education people indulging in self-esteem wars and excess vanity while at the same time compensating their severe shortage of hugs and intimate encounters. Search"tango cynic" on YouTube, he pretty much sums things up. :-)

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    1. Re:The point of Argentine Tango by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Search"tango cynic" on YouTube, he pretty much sums things up. :-)

      WTF is up with turning a text blog into a video of animated characters. Just let me read it.

  37. cmon' wrong game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Phone bill showed 700+ texts for her last month and 50 for me. Darn text messaging game, I'm so far behind in my text message count.

  38. Not WoW but I know the feeling. by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

    I quit a different MMO because the constant grind to be competitive was taking over my life. Sure I can sink a lot of time into offline games and matches of multiplayer games with a few players but I don't need to be online 24/7

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  39. In short... by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

    To summarize the summary and comments:
    Addiction breaking up marriages is not new, Fortnite and other online games are the current example of an old problem
    What people are trying to escape with addictive behavior (including crummy spouse behavior) might be the real problem.
    UK doesn't have no fault divorce and that can lead to pretexts to claim fault.

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