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Facebook Will Open a 'War Room' Next Week To Monitor Election Interference (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: Sheera Frankel and Mike Isaac [write from The New York Times]: "Sandwiched between Building 20 and Building 21 in the heart of Facebook's campus, an approximately 25-foot by 35-foot conference room is under construction. Thick cords of blue wiring hang from the ceiling, ready to be attached to window-size computer monitors on 16 desks. On one wall, a half dozen televisions will be tuned to CNN, MSNBC, Fox News and other major cable networks. A small paper sign with orange lettering taped to the glass door describes what's being built: "War Room."

Set to open next week, the conference room is in keeping with Facebook's nick-of-time approach to midterm election preparedness. (It introduced a "pilot program" for candidate account security on Monday.) It's a big project. Samidh Chakrabarti, who oversees elections and civic engagement, told the Times: "We see this as probably the biggest companywide reorientation since our shift from desktops to mobile phones." Of course, the effort extends beyond the new conference room. Chakrabarti showed the Times a new internal tool "that helps track information flowing across the social network in real time," helping to identify misinformation as it goes viral or a surge in the creation of new (and likely fake) accounts.

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  1. Just to clarify by Brett+Buck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A War Room to monitor election interference that doesn't go their way.

    1. Re:Just to clarify by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nailed it.

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    2. Re:Just to clarify by Time_Ngler · · Score: 5, Funny

      The title:

        "Facebook Will Open a 'War Room' Next Week To Monitor Election Interface On Behalf Of Democrats"

      was strangely cut off in my browser to just:

        "Facebook Will Open a 'War Room' Next Week To Monitor Election Interface"

      The site admins should really work on fixing this.

    3. Re:Just to clarify by Lord+Kano · · Score: 2

      EXACTLY!

      Facebook has been engaging in obvious and blatant suppression of conservative viewpoints and they were shocked by the 2016 election's results. I'm sure they'll be doing a lot of steering leading up to this mid-term.

      LK

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    4. Re:Just to clarify by overlook77 · · Score: 2

      Exactly....if you dont believe this goes on, try searching for something controversial that goes against leftist propaganda and compare the results with another engine like DuckDuckGo. It's sadly very predictable.

    5. Re:Just to clarify by Time_Ngler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You realize you are treating Facebook, a private company that unabashedly sells your private information to the highest bidder, whether you have an account or not as long as your friends do, as a appropriate arbitrator of justice. Good move.

  2. 2008 by Jarwulf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    2012 election help for obama from Facebook: A Bold Model for our Tech infused Future. 2016 election generic 'help' for trump far less extensive than what Obama got and Hillary turned down: Dark tech invasion of privacy! Election manipulation! Birth of Fake News! Muh Russians!

  3. I'm not so sure by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Facebook is a mega corporation, so odds are they're going to win the election either way. There's a few anti-corporation candidates, but not nearly enough that even something as tame as Liz Warren's current bill will pass (and Trump would just Veto it anyway). Basically, I don't think they have any particular agenda to push. They're not as left wing as everybody likes to make them out to be (they really only kicked Alex Jones off out of fear of a negligence lawsuit and they've left a lot of his hanger-ons alone).

    OTOH if they keep ignoring election interference sooner or later somebody's gonna regulate. And if there's any sign of playing sides that'll hurt too. They've already got multiple Republicans talking about regulating or nationalizing them, and the Republicans are in power (and likely to continue to be). I suspect they're going to do everything in their power to shut both sides down from the kind of crap that happened in 2016.

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    1. Re:I'm not so sure by rtb61 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Bugger all happened in 2016, that is the actual evidence. Trolling advertisements, click bait got quite corruptly called political, when it fact it most definitely is not. It simply targets politics to get you to click it, to take you to the actual ad.

      The only corruption that occurred was at establishment level, primaries stolen, polling booths shut down queues long enough to stop people voting and then they are blamed, registered voters selectively de-registered to get rid of their vote, vote count tampering upon a mass scale targeted at the Greens and the Libertarian party to favour Republicans and Democrats, voter ID laws designed to stop people voting, google cooked search results to favour their candidate, facebook cooked the news stream to favour their candidates, corporations basically ran rough shod over the election with mass bribery obscured as caimpagn donations, the democrats defrauded caimpagn donations to funnel them to the Klinton Krime Klan, corporate controlled main stream media silenced the opposition and hugely favoured establishment candidates. Pretty much the US elections were entirely corrupt.

      Ohh sorry I made a mistake, all of that is A OK with you and people trolling that corruption should be killed with a missile strike from a drone, which is what US politicians said should happen. Now it's do as we say or we will kill you. Either every country in the world allows US corporations to pillage their resources and enslave the populations or the US military will invade and kill as many as necessary to destroy your country. Hell, they say it out loud now, like it is OK, wow are they going to be in for a shock.

      So the message now is, dare to interfere with the corruption of the US electoral process, dare to deny corporations total control of the electoral process and we will destroy you. You seem more concerned with maintaining the masquerade of democracy than tackling the corruption.

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    2. Re:I'm not so sure by Kiuas · · Score: 5, Informative

      Bugger all happened in 2016, that is the actual evidence. Trolling advertisements, click bait got quite corruptly called political, when it fact it most definitely is not. It simply targets politics to get you to click it, to take you to the actual ad.

      This is actually far from true. Here's some of what is known to have happened, the political ads themselves are a minor part of the whole thing:

      The Mueller indictment permanently demolishes the idea that the scale of the Russian campaign was not significant enough to have any impact on the American public. We are no longer talking about approximately $100,000 (paid in rubles, no less) of advertising grudgingly disclosed by Facebook, but tens of millions of dollars spent over several years to build a broad, sophisticated system that can influence American opinion.

      The Russian efforts described in the indictment focused on establishing deep, authenticated, long-term identities for individuals and groups within specific communities. This was underlaid by the establishment of servers and VPNs based in the US to mask the location of the individuals involved. US-based email accounts linked to fake or stolen US identity documents (driver licenses, social security numbers, and more) were used to back the online identities. These identities were also used to launder payments through PayPal and cryptocurrency accounts. All of this deception was designed to make it appear that these activities were being carried out by Americans.

      Additionally, the indictment mentions that the IRA* had a department whose job was gaming algorithms. This is important because information warfare—the term used in the indictment itself—is not about "fake news" and “bots." It is about creating an information environment and a narrative—specific storytelling vehicles used to achieve goals of subversion and activation, amplified and promoted through a variety of means.

      2. What kind of content did it rely on?

      As the indictment lays out in thorough detail, the content pumped out by the Russians was not paid or promoted ads; it was so-called native content—including video, visual, memetic, and text elements designed to push narrative themes, conspiracies, and character attacks. All of it was designed to look like it was coming from authentic American voices and interest groups. And the IRA wasn’t just guessing about what worked. They used data-driven targeting and analysis to assess how the content was received, and they used that information to refine their messages and make them more effective.

      3. Who or what was the operation targeting, and what did it aim to achieve?

      The indictment mentions that the Russian accounts were meant to embed with and emulate “radical” groups. The content was not designed to persuade people to change their views, but to harden those views. Confirmation bias is powerful and commonly employed in these kinds of psychological operations (a related Soviet concept is “reflexive control”—applying pressure in ways to elicit a specific, known response). The intention of these campaigns was to activate—or suppress—target groups. Not to change their views, but to change their behavior.

      4. What impact did it have?

      We’re only at the beginning of having an answer to this question because we’ve only just begun to ask some of the right questions. But Mueller’s indictment shows that Russian accounts and agents accomplished more than just stoking divisions and tensions with sloppy propaganda memes. The messaging was more sophisticated, and some Americans took action. For example, the indictment recounts a number of instances where events and demonstrations were organized by Russians posing as Americans on social media. These accounts aimed to get people to do specific thing

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    3. Re: I'm not so sure by Highdude702 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You people have lost your damn minds. YOU CAN NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT AN ID IN THE USA!!! Unless you live under a rock that is. I have needed an ID for every day life since i was fucking 15, how the FUCK do you claim others can do it? How do they do ANYTHING. Also you realize in a large portion of the US you can be detained for up to 72 hours for not having identification? John Doe laws.

    4. Re:I'm not so sure by lgw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Google is a mega-corporation, but they are explicitly anti-Trump, or haven't you seen the internal videos? Management exhorting the engineers to make sure Google does its part to influence the election. You think Facebook or Twitter is any different?

      For whatever dumb reason, "get woke; go broke" is very real, and companies don't even blink at throwing profits overboard to go 110% for progressive causes.

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    5. Re:I'm not so sure by Tjp($)pjT · · Score: 2

      Quick synopsis. The paid ads were inconsequential. The real influence was the use of the Trolls of Olgino, the horde of employees of the Russian Government owned Internet Research Agency, trolling social media to influence the weak minded with false narratives.

      Quicker summary. The Russians trolled social media. That’s what some think had the most impact.

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    6. Re: I'm not so sure by Tjp($)pjT · · Score: 2

      Only 4 states require you provide identification, Nevada, Indiana, Arizona and Louisiana. But other stop and identify states have the requirement met by merely stating your name to the police. Nevada had a case go to the Supreme Court, and the ruling was the person stating their name satisfied the intent of Nevada’s statute. That precedent likely would, upon a case in court, carry in the remain8ng three states.

      Additionally they still need probable cause to detain you. They can’t just stop a random person and demand questions be answered. But as always being polite is the best course, and if you ask “am I free to go” they should answer properly. If they say “no” you’re effectively under arrest. If they say “yes” feel free to leave. At least that is the generally thought of consensus opinion. I am not a lawyer, and acting on what I say without form8ng your own opinion by consulting a licensed attorney or by other means you take responsibility for, that’s your own lookout.

      As to needing ID. Well, I can take jobs where I’m paid in cash, and since my social security card is not legally ID, pay taxes without ID, by groceries and pay rent in cash, and so on. So, you can’t drive without ID, but you can ride a horse or bicycle. Sadly you need ID to hunt in most jurisdictions. Or fish. But you can buy a house without ID. You can grow a garden without ID, and if a family member gifted you a firearm, you can take invasive animals that eat your garden, like deer. In some places you’re obligated to surrender them to the state, but not everywhere. And you can even get prepaid phones without ID. Or sign up for utilities. So a downtown apartment is a possibility, as is a house in the country, all based on cash. I went cash only for almost ten years in the late eighties to early nineties. My LLC was hired for consulting and they did my taxes as an employment perk and I was paid in cash.

      Want to have some fun. Open a bank account and don’t provide ID.

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  4. Fox in hen house by AndyKron · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They want to make sure their interference is going smoothly

    1. Re:Fox in hen house by IronDragon · · Score: 2

      They just want to make sure we don't vote for the wrong candidates.

    2. Re:Fox in hen house by BlueStrat · · Score: 2

      They want to make sure their interference is going smoothly

      They just want to make sure we don't vote for the wrong candidates.

      Well, naturally!

      Otherwise, the wrong lizards might get in.

      Even worse than a lizard in the "tolerant" Left's view, a conservative or libertarian might get in! Horrors!!!

      Strat

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  5. Re:You should get that treated. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Informative

    Facebook VP: "The Majority Of Russian Ad Spend Happened AFTER The Election"

    https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2017/10/hard-questions-russian-ads-delivered-to-congress/

    "many of these ads did not violate our content policies. That means that for most of them, if they had been run by authentic individuals, anywhere, they could have remained on the platform."

    Shouldn't you stop foreigners from meddling in US social issues?

    The right to speak out on global issues that cross borders is an important principle. Organizations such as UNICEF, Oxfam or religious organizations depend on the ability to communicate - and advertise - their views in a wide range of countries. While we may not always agree with the positions of those who would speak on issues here, we believe in their right to do so - just as we believe in the right of Americans to express opinions on issues in other countries.

    - the ads were non-political in nature, and didn't feature or favour a political candidate
    - 56% of the ads were run AFTER the 2016 US federal election
    - 25% of the ads were never displayed to anyone due to Facebook's algorithms not finding them relevant to trending interests
    - only 25% of the ads were geographically-targeted
    - Facebook is not sure that the ads were part of an organized campaign
    - Facebook is not sure that the accounts the ads were purchased with are associated with each other
    - Facebook is not certain that the ads were purchased by Russians
    - many of the ads were not purchased using Russia's currency
    - huge numbers of actual political ads are bought and run on Facebook from all countries around the world, and that is normal and OK
    - the "overwhelming majority" of ad-space purchases from Russia by Russians are normal and not suspicious in any way

    So, after a year of investigations and debunked conspiracy / false claim after debunked conspiracy / false claim, the strongest argument for alleged Russian interference in the 2016 US federal election is $100K of non-political or partisan Facebook ads - more than half of which ran after the election, and a quarter of which never ran at all. That's telling.

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  6. Re:You should get that treated. by Brett+Buck · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Butthurt", that;s so cute...Jimmy got a new catch phrase.

            I actually don't care very much what Facebook does, anyone who spends a lot of time there or believes what they see there is patently a moron.

            The ridiculous pretense of actually trying to be fair, and concerned over the integrity of the election process. It's the absolutely unashamed and apparently oblivious hypocrisy that makes me laugh.

             

  7. Leadership by example by Max_W · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Corinthians 11:1 Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ.

  8. *Foreign* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    To be clear, it is a CRIME for a foreign country to interfere in US elections. It does not matter if that country supports your candidate or not.
    It's also a crime for agents in the US to do the bidding for that country without registering themselves as foreign agents.
    It is also a crime for that candidate to do deals with that country, where he's to receive tens of millions of dollars to rescue his overleveraged hotel business.

    Clear?

    You can do your "Hannity for President" shit all you like, but Putin cannot do his "Trump for President because it suits Russia" shit.

    1. Re:*Foreign* by Uberbah · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To be clear, it is a CRIME for a foreign country to interfere in US elections.

      Based on which international law? One that is consistent and thus makes the United States worse in this category than all other nations combined?

  9. Indictments mean shit by Uberbah · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All an indictment is, is an accusation from a prosecutor. Ever hear the phrase that they could "indict a ham sandwich"? Grand juries are under the complete control of prosecutors, and they could indict just about anyone for anything if they wanted to.

    If Mueller had actual evidence of actual collusion, we would have seen it a year ago, instead of all this fucking around with Twitter trolls, Facebook ads placed after the election, and money laundering from ten years ago with zero connection to Trump (but plenty to Hillary's campaign manager, John Podesta). More to the point, Mueller has never had the FBI investigate the DNC severs, the alleged hacking of which is the entire basis of Russiagate. Which either means Mueller is far too incompetent to be trusted to run the office Keurig machine by himself, or this was never a real investigation, only a puppet show for rubes who learned nothing from the lies told about Iraq. One of those liars being one Robert Mueller.

    Pick one.

    1. Re:Indictments mean shit by Kiuas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If Mueller had actual evidence of actual collusion, we would have seen it a year ago

      This statement is based on absolutely nothing, it's just an assertion you throw out about a large on-going investigation without anything to back it up. 'Because the investigation is taking so long it cannot lead to anything' is some of the worst logic possible.

      However you're missing the point I was making entirely. I'm not American, I'm Finnish. My point in the comment was not to take on side over the other as to the result of the investigation. Whether or not there was collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian information warfare campaign is another matter that remains to be seen once the investigation completes, but that was not my point. It may be that there was no collusion, but that does not negate the fact that the Russians are actively posing as western citizens and pumping out propaganda to influence elections and sow political discontent throughout the West and not just in the US. That was my point, and there's plenty of evidence of that that's not coming from Mueller & al, including from your own intelligence agencies as well as other non-governmental researchers (see for example the report about the interference in Europe).

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    2. Re:Indictments mean shit by Evtim · · Score: 2

      Why are the Russians successful then (in sowing discord in the West)? This really bugs me....

      Could it be (in part) a result of the informational blackout in the West regarding the crimes of communism? How could it be that while Putin is revitalizing the nostalgia for the old regime and ramping up patriotic, religious and totalitarian schemes that are 1:1 copy of the methods used by the communists (sans religion), in the West people can declare themselves commies and Marxists without being punched in the face, something that would happen immediately to anyone wearing a swastika or proudly proclaiming they are Nazis?

      It is beyond imagination that westerners blame the Poles and the Hungarians for being "Putin's stooges" because of the resistance to illegal immigration, while during communism when I went to Hungary (I am 1/4 Hungarian) I did not speak Bulgarian in public for the fear of being mistaken for Russian (they are close for the untrained ear). Hungarians and Poles hate Russians in their guts!

      But look what happens. Say, Orban is against illegal immigration. The West calls him names (archaic, barbaric, despot, old-fashioned patriarch) but Putin supports his stance. And gains support, despite the bad memories (did you, Westerners, forget which countries rebelled during the cold war and had to be invaded by Russia and the rest of us - Hungary and Czechoslovakia). Putin is filling the vacuum left between the Western leaders and their constituents. The same vacuum that brought us Brexit and Trump.

      I told a friend of mine many years ago "The Russians will beat the West in its own game". Once they learn how easily people are manipulated by both a carrot and a stick rather than just a stick (communism) they will find a way to spread poison in the West. Once they learn the latest developments in "big data" they will use it. While at the same time their own citizens would be much less susceptible to propaganda from the West. Sad but true -- closed, totalitarian societies are more monolithic and not easy to stir to change. It eventually happens but it can be very slow process.

      When you play Alpha Centauri with the University or Peacekeeper factions you have inherited disadvantage in spying and civil unrest. The game designer got that nailed down. Open, creative, free societies also mean that people are allowed to be bloody idiots without challenge or oppression. On the positive site you get highly dynamic society where good ideas can flourish. On the negative site you get dynamic society where terrible ideas can flourish.

      Again, to ask the "progressives" of the West - how can you be against Russian meddling and sport the hammer and sickle at the same time?

      A personal note. Would you, or anyone here approach a Jew and express admiration and support of the Nazi regime, deny the Holocaust and shout Nazi slogans in their face? If you answer firmly "no" to those question then why would you approach East European and deny the Gulags, support the commies and shout Marxists slogans? This has happened to me once and since then I vowed that if it ever happens again (any person of my age or older has had a friend or relative prosecuted by the communists; it is very personal to us and the amount of people killed exceeds the Holocaust many times over) in the case of woman she would be called the worst names I can come up with and if it is a man I'll kick his fucking head.

      Summary: westerners, you are very, very, very confused in this day and age. Your dear progressives are the "useful idiots" propagating the very ideology that led to the Gulags, your mainstream media is consulting daily the "manual of the agitprop (agitation + propaganda)". You insult your allies and friends (East Europe) while you pander to truly horrific regimes (e.g. China, SA). You reject and insult the legal immigrants like me who jumped endless amount of hoops to be here (for the first 5 years in NL if I had one, just one day unemployment I would have to start the process again) while supporting illegals. You trum

  10. Re:You should get that treated. by Uberbah · · Score: 2

    The best manipulation is always the most innocuous. I mean, if you get too overt, you will get called out. So the fact that things seem superficially innocuous might not necessarily tilt the scales to either option.

    Sounds like treating dispositive evidence as proof that the conspiracy theory is correct. Like how any time Trump is confrontational with Russia - and he's far more confrontational than Obama ever was - Russiagaters say that's just him trying to prove he's not a puppet.

    A thought process common to cults everywhere.

  11. ahem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Does that include a British spy named Steele and paid for by the Hillary campaign with cash laundered through the Perkins Coie law firm who bought a bunch or lies from Russian agents and then funneled that back into the FBI via agent Bruce Ohr whose wife is a democrat activist working at the firm Fusion GPS that Steele worked with on the "dossier"?

    Or would that foreign interference that's such a major CRIME (as you put it) include millions of illegal aliens from places like Mexico who have been admitted to the country by Democrats like Obama, and specifically told by Obama that they would not be prosecuted if they voted while he was in office? Does it matter that most are being in some way hidden or sheltered by Democrats (an actual federal offense)? Every single vote by an illegal, or by the legal kid of an illegal, cancels out the vote of a US citizen who did NOT violate the laws and thus has far more impact than some stupid click bait ad on Facebook. Do illegal aliens marching in our streets and waving Mexican flags as they intimidate little old ladies and gents constitute Mexico interfering in our elections?

    Just asking, because you folks on the left have some mighty funny rules about standards and consistency, and every time I try to keep up and adapt to the new rules you have demanded, the rules change again.

  12. Re:um, treat the Bible like a BOOK by BarryHaworth · · Score: 2

    Nobody reads individual sentences from other books and then takes them (often out of context) as individual snacks of wisdom and truth.

    Uh, yes they do. All they time. What is the modern news cycle but a collection of individual sentences (often out of context) from longer speeches or documents, then repackaged as eye catching headlines?

    If you want to get more literary, I invite you to read the words of Shakespeare and find out just how many of his individual sentences have passed into common wisdom and truth .

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  13. Re:He has Trumps letter of intent by Highdude702 · · Score: 2

    I *Love* conspiracy charges.. They basically mean "We have 0 real evidence that you committed a crime, but were going to charge you anyways because you could have maybe *THOUGHT* about committing a crime" Thats what conspiracy is, thought crime. Think about it.

  14. Re:You should get that treated. by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

    The right to speak out on global issues that cross borders is an important principle. Organizations such as UNICEF, Oxfam or religious organizations depend on the ability to communicate - and advertise - their views in a wide range of countries. While we may not always agree with the positions of those who would speak on issues here, we believe in their right to do so - just as we believe in the right of Americans to express opinions on issues in other countries.

    Precisely.

    You know perfectly well that if in late October, say, some French group bought Facebook ads admonishing Americans to "stop being racist, take action, vote, etc. you know who we're talking about, wink wink" that FB would have not the slightest problem with it. Nor would the media or the permanent bureaucracy that is so worried about "foreign meddling".

    Some foreign meddling is more equal than others.