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Huawei Trolls Apple By Giving Battery Packs To People Waiting in Line For the iPhone XS (abacusnews.com)

Huawei, which recently surpassed Apple to become the world's second largest smartphone player, can't stop taking shots at the iPhone maker. From a report: After the iPhone XS was unveiled with little new, Huawei tweeted "Thank you for letting us be the real hero of the year," a tease for their upcoming Mate 20 Pro unveiling next month. Now Huawei's taking another shot -- by handing out battery packs to people waiting in line for the iPhone XS and XS Max in Singapore. The packaging says "You'll need it", which is actually a valid boast: Anandtech found that Huawei's P20 and P20 Pro had better battery life than the iPhone 8 and X.

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  1. Dump stupid smartphones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Get rid of silly useless energy-hogging smartphones that you really don't need in the first place and get a nice cheap basic dumbphone instead, the battery will last a week on one charge and you'll have so much more time to do other things when you're not wasting it all with your eyes glued to the screen like some silly child.

    1. Re: Dump stupid smartphones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      -Sent from my iPhone

    2. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by Streetlight · · Score: 1

      And, you could buy a replacement battery at Batteries Plus, Amazon or some other retailer, snap off the back off the phone to swap the energy containers. Expect to run out of energy? Carry a spare, charged battery; no cable needed.

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    3. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by eihab · · Score: 1

      Why not both? I have a dumb phone with a battery that lasts for 20+ days on standby and my iPhone is covered in a Mophie which gives me 2-3 times the battery life which usually means ~2 days of active use.

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    4. Re: Dump stupid smartphones by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 1

      Who wants to make phone calls? Only calls i get are scams and spam. Data connectivity is the only use fie a mobile device.

      What good is long battery life on a device that does nothing USEFUL?

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    5. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      my iPhone is covered in a Mophie which gives me 2-3 times the battery life which usually means ~2 days of active use.

      That's kind of like Kate Moss wearing a fat suit...

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    6. Re: Dump stupid smartphones by Tough+Love · · Score: 1
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    7. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by eihab · · Score: 1

      > That's kind of like Kate Moss ...

      No idea who you're talking about.

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    8. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by sjames · · Score: 1

      To be fair, I actually do use the email, browser, and an ssh client on my phone quite frequently. The latter is not something I have ever seen on a feature phone.

      What I don't get is skimping on the battery so you can make it thin enough to chop onions just to stick it in a thick case to keep it from breaking.

    9. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by scottrocket · · Score: 1

      my iPhone is covered in a Mophie which gives me 2-3 times the battery life which usually means ~2 days of active use.

      That's kind of like Kate Moss wearing a fat suit...

      Then she would look healthy, and wouldn't blow out of a window.

    10. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by Cito · · Score: 1

      I never once owned a cellphone and never will. I have landline and my mobile I have my ham radio. And I use autopatch when I need to make a quick phone call on the radio. And at home I have full duplex reverse auto patch to accept calls over 70cm band.

      Been using that setup since 1995 works perfectly. I've seen friends go from RadioShack brick cellphones to startac flip phones to Motorola and Nokia banana phones on to smartphones and not once have I wanted to get in on that bullshit.

    11. Re: Dump stupid smartphones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoooooosh

    12. Re: Dump stupid smartphones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or if you're getting a new dumbphone, use a USB battery or find a USB port. Even 10 minutes of 500mA charging should be good to get you through the end of the day.

    13. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are right, your amateur radio hobby is far superior. Just lay back and let the smug satisfaction wash over you.

  2. But the newer ones last longer... by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    I find it kind of amusing they were handing out a battery pack for people waiting in line for new devices, when the newer ones will probably have even better life and might just beat the Huawei ones (for real life use especially).

    That certainly would be the case if the Xr were shipping.

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    1. Re:But the newer ones last longer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      apple isn't about being better; its about paying more.

    2. Re:But the newer ones last longer... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

      apple isn't about being better; its about paying more.

      Which is better for Apple ...

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    3. Re:But the newer ones last longer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you find that amusing you should try watching comedy or something - it'll blow your brains out

    4. Re: But the newer ones last longer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will the battery be better though?

      Every release they say better battery life yet every single person I know with an iPhone can't make it a full day with moderate use.

      My android phone with a 4500mAh battety gets 3(!!) days on a single charge with my usage.

    5. Re: But the newer ones last longer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but few American innovations can claim that distinction anymore :)

      Love my Samsung LOL!

    6. Re: But the newer ones last longer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually you are wrong, the battery is actually worse in the XS.

    7. Re:But the newer ones last longer... by piojo · · Score: 1

      the newer ones will probably have even better life and might just beat the Huawei ones (for real life use especially).

      There can be no fair comparison, since the Huawei firmware kills critical background processes and services. So their selling point is also a bug. Apple probably works much better in that regard, but I can't vouch for it.

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    8. Re: But the newer ones last longer... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      my iPhone X easily lasts about a day and a half with moderate use. The Xr looks to have quite a lot of battery compared to even the current models, it should easily go two.

      It's great your device lasts so long, but it's pretty hard to compare Android to iOS devices as we have no idea what you might have set to achieve that.

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  3. It's iPhone 2,659mAh vs. Huawei 3,400mAh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    And the iPhone isn't anymore efficient or significantly better performing per watt in either synthetic tests or real life usage.

    Just in case you were wondering.

    1. Re: It's iPhone 2,659mAh vs. Huawei 3,400mAh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wasnâ(TM)t

    2. Re:It's iPhone 2,659mAh vs. Huawei 3,400mAh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cite?

    3. Re:It's iPhone 2,659mAh vs. Huawei 3,400mAh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least they're honest:
      https://www.anandtech.com/show...

    4. Re: It's iPhone 2,659mAh vs. Huawei 3,400mAh. by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      And how would you know considering reviews say the battery life is better than the X

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    5. Re: It's iPhone 2,659mAh vs. Huawei 3,400mAh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The articles I read said the battery was less in the XS than in the X.

    6. Re: It's iPhone 2,659mAh vs. Huawei 3,400mAh. by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Battery life != battery capacity. The new smaller in capacity but all the reviews I read said the life is actually better. Perhaps the new hardware/software combination yielded better life.

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    7. Re:It's iPhone 2,659mAh vs. Huawei 3,400mAh. by torkus · · Score: 1

      Ok, so Huawei actually listened to the (many) customers and gave them 30% more battery instead of making the phone 0.1mm thinner. Granted they took away the headphones jack and their android implementation leaves something to be desired...

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  4. What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hipsters gonna hipster. If they're already committed enough to wait in line for an apple phone, why would they suddenly switch away from apple? They're addicted, does huawei expect to be their next drug instead? android isn't close to good enough for that.

    1. Re:What's the point? by jon3k · · Score: 2

      I think it's mostly just preaching to the converted. A certain set of Android fans really love to attack Apple products. Which ... something something glass houses, you get the idea. But it is a great way to convert Android fans between brands, not from Apple to Android.

    2. Re:What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The hipsters I see can't help but insert their bullshit into any conversation about their android phones. Start talking about the technical side of the phone and these people run to the same old tired garbage which is Apple bashing. msmash can school you on this. That's all they know. I've never met people so happy with their privacy being invaded as the ravenous Android fanbase.

    3. Re: What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Says the Fandroid in an article about iPhones.

    4. Re:What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

      It's a great way to convert prospective buyers from Apple to Huawei. The point being, phones are already way fast enough. Now battery life is more important. Huawei gets it.

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    5. Re:What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>preaching to the converted

      Casting zealotry stones in a glass house, are we?

      This only happened with apple iconography:

      digitaltrends.com/apple/apple-causes-religious-reaction-in-brains-of-fans-say-neuroscientists/
      https://www.digitaltrends.com/...

      cnet.com/news/scientists-apple-makes-your-brain-go-all-religious/
      https://www.cnet.com/news/scie...

      disinfo.com/2011/06/apple-products-trigger-the-same-parts-of-the-brain-as-religion
      https://www.disinfo.com/2011/0...

      geek.com/apple/apple-fanaticism-similar-to-religious-devotion-according-to-scientists-1381035/
      https://www.geek.com/apple/app...

      cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gadgets/05/19/apple.religion/index.html
      http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/g...

      WHATEVA, ANDROYD CULTZ has always been a shitty deflection, sorry. They're not the ones circlejerking.

    6. Re:What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In what way, except being cheap, is Huawei better than Apple? I'm not impressed at all with the Huawei some people in my family have. Either they didn't need a smart phone and are happy with a 350 euro smart phone they use as a dumb phone, or either they wanted to have a cheap iPhone and are complaining they can't do stuff other people with more expensive Androids or iPhones can do like running a simple app.

    7. Re:What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      In what way, except being cheap, is Huawei better than Apple?

      Just off the top of my head: 1) better battery life 2) runs Linux, a much better kernel than Apple's FreeBSD. Oh, and 3) much better value, as you say.

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    8. Re:What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a great way to convert prospective buyers from Apple to Huawei.

      Nope

      Now battery life is more important. Huawei gets it.

      Not even fucking close.

      They were doing it for the publicity because nobody really cares about hooey, it's Apple vs Samsung and hooey is trying to get some publicity.

    9. Re: What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So Linux vs Unix and google watches everything you do and sells it.

      Sorry at this point phones are phones, you can get a good phone like an iPhone or Samsung or others phones that cost about the same or you can get a cheap phone that is cheap but doesn't have the performance and has questionable security.

      The cost of phones now including the iPhone are really about what your getting, and while I won't be getting an iPhone, I won't be wasting my money on an Android phone either, as most of them are slower than my 2 year old iPhone (they would be slower than a 2 yr old Samsung also, so this isn't Apple specific). A new high end phone whether Apple or Android eill cost you about the same.

      Skip being a fan droid, get the phone you want and you will be much happier then listening to either the android sheep or Apple fanboys. At the end it won't matter, it's a phone and will do what it needs to do.

    10. Re: What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      You asked "In what way, except being cheap, is Huawei better than Apple?" and I told you. And no, Android flagships are not as expensive as Apple. Pixel 2 XL, $540. Galaxy S9 $620. iPhone X, $1060. Current prices on Amazon.

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    11. Re:What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1
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    12. Re: What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think I agree with you much. I don't see "linux" as a better kernel than FreeBSD's, and I'm a longtime user of both. But iPhones, I don't know what they run exactly but as a cut-down OSX which bases on Darwin which in turn uses a lot of FreeBSD (and some NetBSD) code grafted on the mach kernel... it's not really fair to blame FreeBSD's kernel for what happens on apple phones. Likewise I don't know just what google all did to linux to use it on android but your comparison is not really fair or reasonable for both sides of the comparison.

    13. Re: What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      I don't know just what google all did to linux to use it on android

      An ancient list of kernel features unique to Android is here. Almost all of these have were ported to mainline kernel, so the difference between mainline and Android is very small. Android version 9 (Pie) is based on mainline kernel 4.14. Pretty soon, Android will simply be using mainline Linux, it is almost there now.

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    14. Re:What's the point? by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      Casting zealotry stones in a glass house, are we?

      No, Hateboi, he's not.

    15. Re:What's the point? by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      Yawn. Let us know when Huawei passes Samsung in profits, much less Apple.

    16. Re:What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      I am sure that Huawei investors are all very rich now, you don't need to stay awake at night worrying about their profits. Instead, be happy that they have such great success in getting customers.

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    17. Re: What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A crying shame the mainline kernel is a bloated security joke, but there we go.

    18. Re:What's the point? by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Could you perhaps help me understand how the kernel differences materially effect your use of the device?

      Just that Android could switch from one to the other and I don't think I'd notice or care.

    19. Re: What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Talking out your butt?

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    20. Re:What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, I've been misinformed all my life then, having been given the impression that both "preach" and "convert" were terms associated with religion.

      My mistake. Seems my articles observing religion-pattern brain activity are irrelevant.

      Boy, what a goof. Parent kept lumping coordinated "android fans" but I guess he wasn't implying a hivemind at all.

      There is also the possibility that everything above this line is fucking ridiculous and your... rebuttal? Is so lacking of useful quality that even "Bullshit" is too generous an association.

      Go gargle apple's left one, cultboi.

    21. Re:What's the point? by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      Oh, I've been misinformed all my life then, having been given the impression that both "preach" and "convert" were terms associated with religion.

      Yes, and your using those words to describe other people buying the products they want at the prices they feel like paying is a hallmark of your religion, Hateboi.

  5. Huawei Phones: Now with EXTRA spyware! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Of course their phones have better batteries. How is the Chinese gov't going to spy on you if your phone dies?

    1. Re:Huawei Phones: Now with EXTRA spyware! by Rei · · Score: 3, Interesting

      All questions of spyware aside... Huawei has some serious issues with honesty that they need to get past.

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    2. Re:Huawei Phones: Now with EXTRA spyware! by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      And Apple doesn't?

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    3. Re: Huawei Phones: Now with EXTRA spyware! by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1, Informative

      I don't know if you are the best person to comment on someone's honesty considering the number of posts where you've posted factually wrong information over and over again.

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    4. Re: Huawei Phones: Now with EXTRA spyware! by Tough+Love · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Whataboutism? It somehow fixes Apple's reputation?

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    5. Re: Huawei Phones: Now with EXTRA spyware! by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Glass houses and stones comes to mind.

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  6. Biggest battery drainer? Google apps. by devslash0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I own a 5 years old Nexus 5 on which I've been running LineageOS pretty much since its inception. I recently made a few pro-privacy changes in my life and realised that I don't actually need any Google software on my phone anymore. Having disposed of G-Apps, the battery life went from 1 day to almost 3 days. This clearly shows how much their apps do behind the scenes. If I had to guess, I'd say that they are probably covertly using your location (regardless of your settings) to predict things like traffic, peak hours at shopping centres and such like.

    1. Re:Biggest battery drainer? Google apps. by devslash0 · · Score: 1

      Sorry. I should have been clearer. Of course Android comes from Google. I meant that I do not need any parts of the Google Suite / preload apps.

    2. Re:Biggest battery drainer? Google apps. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I had to guess, I'd say that they are probably covertly using your location

      At the very least. One day I went through and actually turned off all the opt outs for location (there's 7 of them, and you aren't actually opted out until you turn off all 7 and agree to all the giant scary warnings that try to stop you)... Thing is, then the system became unstable, and the location service went into an infinite loop bug that killed the battery in 2 hours (when it normally lasted 3 days). Finally I gave in and opted back in 2 of them. Now almost every time I wake up my phone I catch it using my gps (it turns off right away on wake up).

    3. Re: Biggest battery drainer? Google apps. by GrahamJ · · Score: 4, Informative

      Your intuition is quite correct:

      Google data collection research

      https://digitalcontentnext.org...

      The key findings include:

      A dormant, stationary Android phone (with the Chrome browser active in the background) communicated location information to Google 340 times during a 24-hour period, or at an average of 14 data communications per hour. In fact, location information constituted 35 percent of all the data samples sent to Google.

      For comparisonâ(TM)s sake, a similar experiment found that on an iOS device with Safari but not Chrome, Google could not collect any appreciable data unless a user was interacting with the device. Moreover, an idle Android phone running the Chrome browser sends back to Google nearly fifty times as many data requests per hour as an idle iOS phone running Safari.

      An idle Android device communicates with Google nearly 10 times more frequently as an Apple device communicates with Apple servers. These results highlighted the fact that Android and Chrome platforms are critical vehicles for Googleâ(TM)s data collection. Again, these experiments were done on stationary phones with no user interactions. If you actually use your phone the information collection increases with Google.

      Google has the ability to associate anonymous data collected through passive means with the personal information of the user. Google makes this association largely through advertising technologies, many of which Google controls. Advertising identifiersâ"which are purportedly âoeuser anonymousâ and collect activity data on apps and third-party webpage visitsâ"can get associated with a userâ(TM)s real Google identity through passing of device-level identification information to Google servers by an Android device.

      Likewise, the DoubleClick cookie IDâ"which tracks a userâ(TM)s activity on the third-party webpagesâ"is another purportedly âoeuser anonymousâ identifier that Google can associate to a userâ(TM)s Google account. It works when a user accesses a Google application in the same browser in which a third-party webpage was accessed previously.

      A major part of Googleâ(TM)s data collection occurs while a user is not directly engaged with any of its products. The magnitude of such collection is significant, especially on Android mobile devices, arguably the most popular personal accessory now carried 24/7 by more than 2 billion people.

      This is what you get for using a device whose operating system is made by the worldâ(TM)s largest ad network.

    4. Re: Biggest battery drainer? Google apps. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound totally sane FWIW

    5. Re: Biggest battery drainer? Google apps. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      That's what happens when you have location based services turned on, like the default local weather display in the Google launcher. Try turning that off and run the test again.

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    6. Re: Biggest battery drainer? Google apps. by devslash0 · · Score: 1

      Thanks Graham. This is a very interesting report. I'll read it in full tomorrow morning.

  7. Ironic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Fuck them. Nexus 6Ps were made by Huawei, and those phones are plagued with battery issues. The batteries aren't replaceable and they didn't stand behind them.

  8. Weird approach by shilly · · Score: 1

    Why Huawei thought a marketing stunt comprised of taking the piss out of consumers was a good idea is beyond me. Taking the piss out of Apple? Well, sure. But of Apple *users*? That's a remarkably crass thing for a company to do.

    1. Re:Weird approach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huawei thinks it can win over iPhone X buyers with the fact that the batteries in their phones last longer. Nuff said.

    2. Re:Weird approach by Tough+Love · · Score: 4, Informative

      Huawei is actually after the media coverage, not those specific users. Seems to have worked rather well.

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  9. Great way to introduce malware! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I sure hope they use syncstop or something else who knows what else besides juice people are getting with those battery packs!!

  10. Oh my! Just what I needed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So I'm going to attach a device from Huawei, a company I don't trust, to a device that has sensitive personal data? Really?

  11. Valid? by GrahamJ · · Score: 1

    Huawei devices having higher capacity batteries does not make a boast about iPhone users needing external batteries valid.

  12. Priorities by GrahamJ · · Score: 0

    Iâ(TM)ll take a bit less battery life over this:

    Google data collection research

    https://digitalcontentnext.org...

    The key findings include:

    A dormant, stationary Android phone (with the Chrome browser active in the background) communicated location information to Google 340 times during a 24-hour period, or at an average of 14 data communications per hour. In fact, location information constituted 35 percent of all the data samples sent to Google.

    For comparisonâ(TM)s sake, a similar experiment found that on an iOS device with Safari but not Chrome, Google could not collect any appreciable data unless a user was interacting with the device. Moreover, an idle Android phone running the Chrome browser sends back to Google nearly fifty times as many data requests per hour as an idle iOS phone running Safari.

    An idle Android device communicates with Google nearly 10 times more frequently as an Apple device communicates with Apple servers. These results highlighted the fact that Android and Chrome platforms are critical vehicles for Googleâ(TM)s data collection. Again, these experiments were done on stationary phones with no user interactions. If you actually use your phone the information collection increases with Google.

    Google has the ability to associate anonymous data collected through passive means with the personal information of the user. Google makes this association largely through advertising technologies, many of which Google controls. Advertising identifiersâ"which are purportedly âoeuser anonymousâ and collect activity data on apps and third-party webpage visitsâ"can get associated with a userâ(TM)s real Google identity through passing of device-level identification information to Google servers by an Android device.

    Likewise, the DoubleClick cookie IDâ"which tracks a userâ(TM)s activity on the third-party webpagesâ"is another purportedly âoeuser anonymousâ identifier that Google can associate to a userâ(TM)s Google account. It works when a user accesses a Google application in the same browser in which a third-party webpage was accessed previously.

    A major part of Googleâ(TM)s data collection occurs while a user is not directly engaged with any of its products. The magnitude of such collection is significant, especially on Android mobile devices, arguably the most popular personal accessory now carried 24/7 by more than 2 billion people.

    This is what you get for using a device whose operating system is made by the worldâ(TM)s largest ad network.

    1. Re:Priorities by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Did you really paste that same prewritten talking point sheet twice?

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    2. Re: Priorities by GrahamJ · · Score: 0

      As it turns out, the number of times I posted these research conclusions isn't the important part.

    3. Re: Priorities by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      But it does make you a copy-pasting troll.

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    4. Re: Priorities by GrahamJ · · Score: 1

      As opposed to the fount of relevant information you clearly are. Thanks so much for your input.

    5. Re: Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look, I appreciated it the first time myself. Thing is, you post at +3. Nobody's gonna miss it! You, an old-line /.'er, should know better--check the AC button when copypasta trolling! (Not that your post is a troll. But same deal.)

    6. Re: Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tough cookies, shit-face. If you got something good to say about Google's spyware, do that instead of ranting at people for bringing the topic up in the first place.

  13. For the humor impaired. by mspohr · · Score: 2

    Reading these responses, I can see that Apple users have no sense of humor.
    Relax and enjoy your free gift.

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    1. Re:For the humor impaired. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reading these responses, I can see that Apple users have no sense of humor.
      Relax and enjoy your free gift.

      The original Apple Inc was okay - Apple I and Apple ][ were fun to use, as well as the original Mac.

      And then Apple fired Jobs. ... lots of history omitted ...

      By the time Apple re-hire Jobs, Apple Inc was no longer an okay place to work. Jobs too had changed --- and filled with rage (I can only imagine how angry Jobs felt when he was betrayed by Wozniak, his only true friend, voting to kick out Jobs in favor of a soft-drink dude)

      From then on Apple is no longer fun, and that reflected on its products, as well as its user base

  14. cake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the ios "upgrades" caused my ipad to stop recognizing and using an external battery.

    1. Re:cake by baker_tony · · Score: 1

      LOL! Yeah, and an update I applied caused my iPad to fly.

  15. Waiting in line by grumpy_old_grandpa · · Score: 1

    I get herd mentality, fashion, and the lust for status and luxury. However, waiting in line for consumer products which can be ordered online and delivered to your door? Is it really that important to have the first one sold at a particular store? And even if being _the_ very first in line might be fun, what is the point of being number 87?

    1. Re:Waiting in line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It also happens with some games. I remember seeing a queue at midnight when Blizzard released a new game a few weeks (months?) ago. It also happens with some shops. I remember a bunch of crazy women pushing the closed doors of a new cloth store, the first with that name in my country. I remember a bunch of crazy teenagers screaming out loud because some teenage pop idol was spotted in some fast food restaurant. I do not understand why some people do this, but I guess it are the same kind of people who can be convinced to blindly follow a strong leader in grim times.

  16. Worth it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's worth it to not suffer the testicle twisting interface that apple insists on using.

    1. Re: Worth it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It has icons you click on. This shit isn't hard. What's so bad about the iOS interface that android solved?

  17. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coming from a company cheating performance benchmarks and camera shots this is pretty funny.

  18. Troll them back with "You're data is safe with us" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because, Huawei is chinese, and there have been plenty of espionage claims (see wikipedias entries)

    Who would you trust your data with - apple of huawei (basically chinese ex-pla people).

  19. How does that Huawei camera work? by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

    Huawei was the company who proudly showed excellent quality selfies produced with their new phones - and then it turned out that they were actually taken by a professional with a professional DSLR camera. Not on a phone as they claimed.

    And the iPhone XS and XS Max have significantly longer battery life than the older models.

    1. Re:How does that Huawei camera work? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      You push the button and a Huawei rep arrives via helicopter, whips out a Nikon D5, "gets the shot", and uploads it to your Huawei cloud for you before flying off into the sunset (or sunrise in Europe, faster to get back to China).

  20. Huawei too agressive battery management by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But at what cost to functionality comes the muched hyped battery life?
    http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/problem-with-locus-map-on-huawei-android-8-devices