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Huawei Trolls Apple By Giving Battery Packs To People Waiting in Line For the iPhone XS (abacusnews.com)

Huawei, which recently surpassed Apple to become the world's second largest smartphone player, can't stop taking shots at the iPhone maker. From a report: After the iPhone XS was unveiled with little new, Huawei tweeted "Thank you for letting us be the real hero of the year," a tease for their upcoming Mate 20 Pro unveiling next month. Now Huawei's taking another shot -- by handing out battery packs to people waiting in line for the iPhone XS and XS Max in Singapore. The packaging says "You'll need it", which is actually a valid boast: Anandtech found that Huawei's P20 and P20 Pro had better battery life than the iPhone 8 and X.

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  1. Dump stupid smartphones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Get rid of silly useless energy-hogging smartphones that you really don't need in the first place and get a nice cheap basic dumbphone instead, the battery will last a week on one charge and you'll have so much more time to do other things when you're not wasting it all with your eyes glued to the screen like some silly child.

    1. Re: Dump stupid smartphones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      -Sent from my iPhone

    2. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by Streetlight · · Score: 1

      And, you could buy a replacement battery at Batteries Plus, Amazon or some other retailer, snap off the back off the phone to swap the energy containers. Expect to run out of energy? Carry a spare, charged battery; no cable needed.

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    3. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by eihab · · Score: 1

      Why not both? I have a dumb phone with a battery that lasts for 20+ days on standby and my iPhone is covered in a Mophie which gives me 2-3 times the battery life which usually means ~2 days of active use.

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    4. Re: Dump stupid smartphones by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 1

      Who wants to make phone calls? Only calls i get are scams and spam. Data connectivity is the only use fie a mobile device.

      What good is long battery life on a device that does nothing USEFUL?

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    5. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      my iPhone is covered in a Mophie which gives me 2-3 times the battery life which usually means ~2 days of active use.

      That's kind of like Kate Moss wearing a fat suit...

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    6. Re: Dump stupid smartphones by Tough+Love · · Score: 1
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    7. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by eihab · · Score: 1

      > That's kind of like Kate Moss ...

      No idea who you're talking about.

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    8. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by sjames · · Score: 1

      To be fair, I actually do use the email, browser, and an ssh client on my phone quite frequently. The latter is not something I have ever seen on a feature phone.

      What I don't get is skimping on the battery so you can make it thin enough to chop onions just to stick it in a thick case to keep it from breaking.

    9. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by scottrocket · · Score: 1

      my iPhone is covered in a Mophie which gives me 2-3 times the battery life which usually means ~2 days of active use.

      That's kind of like Kate Moss wearing a fat suit...

      Then she would look healthy, and wouldn't blow out of a window.

    10. Re:Dump stupid smartphones by Cito · · Score: 1

      I never once owned a cellphone and never will. I have landline and my mobile I have my ham radio. And I use autopatch when I need to make a quick phone call on the radio. And at home I have full duplex reverse auto patch to accept calls over 70cm band.

      Been using that setup since 1995 works perfectly. I've seen friends go from RadioShack brick cellphones to startac flip phones to Motorola and Nokia banana phones on to smartphones and not once have I wanted to get in on that bullshit.

  2. It's iPhone 2,659mAh vs. Huawei 3,400mAh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    And the iPhone isn't anymore efficient or significantly better performing per watt in either synthetic tests or real life usage.

    Just in case you were wondering.

    1. Re: It's iPhone 2,659mAh vs. Huawei 3,400mAh. by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      And how would you know considering reviews say the battery life is better than the X

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    2. Re: It's iPhone 2,659mAh vs. Huawei 3,400mAh. by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Battery life != battery capacity. The new smaller in capacity but all the reviews I read said the life is actually better. Perhaps the new hardware/software combination yielded better life.

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    3. Re:It's iPhone 2,659mAh vs. Huawei 3,400mAh. by torkus · · Score: 1

      Ok, so Huawei actually listened to the (many) customers and gave them 30% more battery instead of making the phone 0.1mm thinner. Granted they took away the headphones jack and their android implementation leaves something to be desired...

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  3. Huawei Phones: Now with EXTRA spyware! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Of course their phones have better batteries. How is the Chinese gov't going to spy on you if your phone dies?

    1. Re:Huawei Phones: Now with EXTRA spyware! by Rei · · Score: 3, Interesting

      All questions of spyware aside... Huawei has some serious issues with honesty that they need to get past.

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    2. Re:Huawei Phones: Now with EXTRA spyware! by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      And Apple doesn't?

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    3. Re: Huawei Phones: Now with EXTRA spyware! by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1, Informative

      I don't know if you are the best person to comment on someone's honesty considering the number of posts where you've posted factually wrong information over and over again.

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    4. Re: Huawei Phones: Now with EXTRA spyware! by Tough+Love · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Whataboutism? It somehow fixes Apple's reputation?

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    5. Re: Huawei Phones: Now with EXTRA spyware! by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Glass houses and stones comes to mind.

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  4. Re:But the newer ones last longer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    apple isn't about being better; its about paying more.

  5. Re:What's the point? by jon3k · · Score: 2

    I think it's mostly just preaching to the converted. A certain set of Android fans really love to attack Apple products. Which ... something something glass houses, you get the idea. But it is a great way to convert Android fans between brands, not from Apple to Android.

  6. Biggest battery drainer? Google apps. by devslash0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I own a 5 years old Nexus 5 on which I've been running LineageOS pretty much since its inception. I recently made a few pro-privacy changes in my life and realised that I don't actually need any Google software on my phone anymore. Having disposed of G-Apps, the battery life went from 1 day to almost 3 days. This clearly shows how much their apps do behind the scenes. If I had to guess, I'd say that they are probably covertly using your location (regardless of your settings) to predict things like traffic, peak hours at shopping centres and such like.

    1. Re:Biggest battery drainer? Google apps. by devslash0 · · Score: 1

      Sorry. I should have been clearer. Of course Android comes from Google. I meant that I do not need any parts of the Google Suite / preload apps.

    2. Re: Biggest battery drainer? Google apps. by GrahamJ · · Score: 4, Informative

      Your intuition is quite correct:

      Google data collection research

      https://digitalcontentnext.org...

      The key findings include:

      A dormant, stationary Android phone (with the Chrome browser active in the background) communicated location information to Google 340 times during a 24-hour period, or at an average of 14 data communications per hour. In fact, location information constituted 35 percent of all the data samples sent to Google.

      For comparisonâ(TM)s sake, a similar experiment found that on an iOS device with Safari but not Chrome, Google could not collect any appreciable data unless a user was interacting with the device. Moreover, an idle Android phone running the Chrome browser sends back to Google nearly fifty times as many data requests per hour as an idle iOS phone running Safari.

      An idle Android device communicates with Google nearly 10 times more frequently as an Apple device communicates with Apple servers. These results highlighted the fact that Android and Chrome platforms are critical vehicles for Googleâ(TM)s data collection. Again, these experiments were done on stationary phones with no user interactions. If you actually use your phone the information collection increases with Google.

      Google has the ability to associate anonymous data collected through passive means with the personal information of the user. Google makes this association largely through advertising technologies, many of which Google controls. Advertising identifiersâ"which are purportedly âoeuser anonymousâ and collect activity data on apps and third-party webpage visitsâ"can get associated with a userâ(TM)s real Google identity through passing of device-level identification information to Google servers by an Android device.

      Likewise, the DoubleClick cookie IDâ"which tracks a userâ(TM)s activity on the third-party webpagesâ"is another purportedly âoeuser anonymousâ identifier that Google can associate to a userâ(TM)s Google account. It works when a user accesses a Google application in the same browser in which a third-party webpage was accessed previously.

      A major part of Googleâ(TM)s data collection occurs while a user is not directly engaged with any of its products. The magnitude of such collection is significant, especially on Android mobile devices, arguably the most popular personal accessory now carried 24/7 by more than 2 billion people.

      This is what you get for using a device whose operating system is made by the worldâ(TM)s largest ad network.

    3. Re: Biggest battery drainer? Google apps. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      That's what happens when you have location based services turned on, like the default local weather display in the Google launcher. Try turning that off and run the test again.

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    4. Re: Biggest battery drainer? Google apps. by devslash0 · · Score: 1

      Thanks Graham. This is a very interesting report. I'll read it in full tomorrow morning.

  7. Ironic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Fuck them. Nexus 6Ps were made by Huawei, and those phones are plagued with battery issues. The batteries aren't replaceable and they didn't stand behind them.

  8. Weird approach by shilly · · Score: 1

    Why Huawei thought a marketing stunt comprised of taking the piss out of consumers was a good idea is beyond me. Taking the piss out of Apple? Well, sure. But of Apple *users*? That's a remarkably crass thing for a company to do.

    1. Re:Weird approach by Tough+Love · · Score: 4, Informative

      Huawei is actually after the media coverage, not those specific users. Seems to have worked rather well.

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  9. Re:But the newer ones last longer... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

    apple isn't about being better; its about paying more.

    Which is better for Apple ...

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  10. Valid? by GrahamJ · · Score: 1

    Huawei devices having higher capacity batteries does not make a boast about iPhone users needing external batteries valid.

  11. Re:Priorities by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    Did you really paste that same prewritten talking point sheet twice?

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  12. Re:What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

    It's a great way to convert prospective buyers from Apple to Huawei. The point being, phones are already way fast enough. Now battery life is more important. Huawei gets it.

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  13. For the humor impaired. by mspohr · · Score: 2

    Reading these responses, I can see that Apple users have no sense of humor.
    Relax and enjoy your free gift.

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  14. Re: Priorities by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    But it does make you a copy-pasting troll.

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  15. Waiting in line by grumpy_old_grandpa · · Score: 1

    I get herd mentality, fashion, and the lust for status and luxury. However, waiting in line for consumer products which can be ordered online and delivered to your door? Is it really that important to have the first one sold at a particular store? And even if being _the_ very first in line might be fun, what is the point of being number 87?

  16. Re: Priorities by GrahamJ · · Score: 1

    As opposed to the fount of relevant information you clearly are. Thanks so much for your input.

  17. Re:What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    In what way, except being cheap, is Huawei better than Apple?

    Just off the top of my head: 1) better battery life 2) runs Linux, a much better kernel than Apple's FreeBSD. Oh, and 3) much better value, as you say.

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  18. Re: What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    You asked "In what way, except being cheap, is Huawei better than Apple?" and I told you. And no, Android flagships are not as expensive as Apple. Pixel 2 XL, $540. Galaxy S9 $620. iPhone X, $1060. Current prices on Amazon.

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  19. Re:What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1
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  20. Re: What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    I don't know just what google all did to linux to use it on android

    An ancient list of kernel features unique to Android is here. Almost all of these have were ported to mainline kernel, so the difference between mainline and Android is very small. Android version 9 (Pie) is based on mainline kernel 4.14. Pretty soon, Android will simply be using mainline Linux, it is almost there now.

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  21. Re:What's the point? by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    Casting zealotry stones in a glass house, are we?

    No, Hateboi, he's not.

  22. Re:What's the point? by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    Yawn. Let us know when Huawei passes Samsung in profits, much less Apple.

  23. Re:What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    I am sure that Huawei investors are all very rich now, you don't need to stay awake at night worrying about their profits. Instead, be happy that they have such great success in getting customers.

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  24. Re:What's the point? by Cederic · · Score: 1

    Could you perhaps help me understand how the kernel differences materially effect your use of the device?

    Just that Android could switch from one to the other and I don't think I'd notice or care.

  25. How does that Huawei camera work? by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

    Huawei was the company who proudly showed excellent quality selfies produced with their new phones - and then it turned out that they were actually taken by a professional with a professional DSLR camera. Not on a phone as they claimed.

    And the iPhone XS and XS Max have significantly longer battery life than the older models.

    1. Re:How does that Huawei camera work? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      You push the button and a Huawei rep arrives via helicopter, whips out a Nikon D5, "gets the shot", and uploads it to your Huawei cloud for you before flying off into the sunset (or sunrise in Europe, faster to get back to China).

  26. Re: What's the point? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    Talking out your butt?

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  27. Re:But the newer ones last longer... by piojo · · Score: 1

    the newer ones will probably have even better life and might just beat the Huawei ones (for real life use especially).

    There can be no fair comparison, since the Huawei firmware kills critical background processes and services. So their selling point is also a bug. Apple probably works much better in that regard, but I can't vouch for it.

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  28. Re: But the newer ones last longer... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    my iPhone X easily lasts about a day and a half with moderate use. The Xr looks to have quite a lot of battery compared to even the current models, it should easily go two.

    It's great your device lasts so long, but it's pretty hard to compare Android to iOS devices as we have no idea what you might have set to achieve that.

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  29. Re:cake by baker_tony · · Score: 1

    LOL! Yeah, and an update I applied caused my iPad to fly.

  30. Re:What's the point? by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    Oh, I've been misinformed all my life then, having been given the impression that both "preach" and "convert" were terms associated with religion.

    Yes, and your using those words to describe other people buying the products they want at the prices they feel like paying is a hallmark of your religion, Hateboi.