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Slack Buys and Shuts Down Intelligent Email App Astro (engadget.com)

Slack has acquired email app company Astro to incorporate it into Slack channels. As a result, Astro is shutting down its Mac, iOS, Android, Alexa and Slack apps. They're no longer taking new users and existing ones will lose access on October 10th. Engadget reports: The company said that with over 50 million channels created to date, they're increasingly becoming the platform through which teams collaborate. "But we all know that email is still a very important tool in business communication," said Slack. "We've taken some steps to make it possible to integrate email into Slack, but now we're in a position to make that interoperability much simpler and much, much more powerful."

Last year, Astro launched its Astrobot Slack app, which let users manage their emails and check their Office 365 or Google calendars from within Slack. It also allowed them to do one search to pull up results from both Slack and email. "As we explored with Slack how to bring together messaging, email and calendar, it became evident that we would have the biggest impact on workplace communications and realize our original vision by joining Slack," the company said.

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  1. That's what happens by Red_Forman · · Score: 2

    The more you depend on someone else to do your work, the more they bite you in the ass.

  2. Re:I don't use... by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    But they didn't "just kill it"
    They integrated the functionality in to their own product, then killed it.

  3. Re:I don't use... by ls671 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have been using slack since version 1.2.3 (~1993) and now using slackware 14.2!

    I can't find that Astro app that you are talking about in my distro. What is it? What does it do?

    Anyway, I just chatted with Patrick Volkerding and he says that he hasn't got a clue either! Strange story.

    Please enlight me!

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    Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
  4. Re:My tag for this story (see comment) by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    And what the hell is Slack and why so many stories about it?

  5. Another banner day by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    for people using cloud services. First Zoho, then Astro.

    Impending 365 downtime imminent?

    1. Re:Another banner day by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      for people using cloud services.

      . . . cloud services using people would be a way more interesting banner . . .

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    2. Re:Another banner day by bobstreo · · Score: 1

      for people using cloud services.

      . . . cloud services using people would be a way more interesting banner . . .

      You mean using people like the machines did in "The Matrix" ?

  6. Slack is an interruption machine by davecb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's like being in a room full of excitable people, all exclaiming OOH, Shiney! all day.

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    1. Re: Slack is an interruption machine by davecb · · Score: 1

      My youngest colleagues detest it. They seem to like voice (;-))

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    2. Re:Slack is an interruption machine by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1

      Thank you for taking time out of your busy work day to log into Slashdot, in order to let us know about distraction machines.

      Now, back to work.

      (Also, Flock is way, way worse in terms of being bombarded with obtrusive notifications)

    3. Re: Slack is an interruption machine by tepples · · Score: 1

      Voice: 0 words per minute because the rest of the team isn't necessarily online at the same time. Written word: 80 wpm after spending some quality time with Mavis or Mario.

    4. Re: Slack is an interruption machine by tepples · · Score: 1

      Slack scrolls whatever the fuck was said earlier right off the damn screen, and good luck finding it.

      Discord has a "scroll to oldest unread message" button. Click it, then start reading down until you're caught up. I can't test this in Slack at the moment, but I'd be very surprised if it did not.

    5. Re: Slack is an interruption machine by davecb · · Score: 1

      IRC, too, is an interruption machine (;-))

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    6. Re: Slack is an interruption machine by jon3k · · Score: 1

      Slack clearly identifies all new messages. You can also directly message someone or @them in a channel to notify them (depending on their notification settings).

      It's mostly about understanding how to use Slack, like IRC. It's just a room full of people talking, people should not assume you're reading every word if you're not actively engaged (if they do, they're using it wrong). They can @you, which is essentially like coming to get you from the other room to join the discussion.

      Personally I use wee-slack which allows me to mix Slack (team for work and one Slack team that some of my "non-techie" friends use for general chat) in with my existing client so I can join slack teams right along side IRC servers using a single client. It really makes Slack a lot more usable, for me, anyway. But it also means I can seamlessly use the Slack mobile app on my phone if I'm away from my computer, which is really handy.

    7. Re: Slack is an interruption machine by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      . It's just a room full of people talking

      In other words, it's an open plan office for those who are lucky enough to not work in open plan offices.

    8. Re: Slack is an interruption machine by jon3k · · Score: 1

      No, that's not a good metaphor. Think of it as a bunch of meeting rooms. And you can be in multiple meeting rooms at once or no meeting room at all. The notifications you receive are controlled by your settings. For example I only receive a notification if someone specifically @me in a channel I participate in or sends me a direct message. Just like on IRC (assuming your client supports it, mine does).

      No one ever complained about this behavior on IRC but for some reason people do on Slack. My guess is they just don't understand how to control the notification settings. And maybe that's Slack's fault, maybe the default settings should be setup how I have mine configured (I believe they should).

  7. Re:My tag for this story (see comment) by Narcocide · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's like basecamp for people smart enough to know IRC is superior but not smart enough to realize you could still just use IRC.

  8. Forums on lunch break by tepples · · Score: 1

    Forums are not quite the same as chat. Though the logging in Matrix, Slack, Skype, and Discord makes it less synchronous and ephemeral than IRC, it's still in practice somewhat more synchronous than something like Slashdot, where multiple-paragraph researched replies are commonplace. In something asynchronous like a threaded or nested forum, you can compose replies to several comments on your lunch break and still be seen as a participant in the discussion. And at least one analyst believes that synchronous communication puts people in minority time zones at an unfair disadvantage ("Why Slack is inappropriate for open source communications" by Dave Cheney).

  9. Re:I don't use... by jmccue · · Score: 1

    Slackware was the distribution

    Slackware is the distribution, it is still active and used by many people.

    Anyway seems odd an IRC Client 'clone' needs email, but I guess that is how companies grow these days

  10. Re:I don't use... by ls671 · · Score: 2

    Correct, it is crazy. A lot of companies try to duplicate a lot of stuff that already exists in one "web app" or just "app", sometimes using the silliest protocols instead of the existing ones.

    I had a chat with a marketing person from our company and she said:

    "We are in the modern era, people don't want to open a mail client, an IRC client, etc. We need to have a product that just does it all."

    So nowadays, some marketing people find it unacceptable and too complicated to ask people to open and learn how to use clients like, mail, irc, etc. Often, they have a hard time using those clients themselves or worse, they don't even know such things as IRC exists.

    It is a general tendency that I have observed lately, many people try to re-invent what already exists and they don't even know it already exists!

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  11. Re:I don't use... by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    Those who are ignorant of IRC are doomed to reinvent it, badly.

    —me, upon learning my employer had, after nuking IRC and switching to Jabber, ditched Jabber for the even steamier and more fragrant pile that is Slack.

    </thread>

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  12. No it isn't. by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    It's a verbatim copy of IRC running of cloud microservices and web protocols controlled by a single company and used by bazillions because it offers unified branding and apps you can install everywhere. Plus it also offers per account per channel per user chat history that carries over (a thing that is a bit sucky to set up in IRC). You can also integrate it into other cloudy stuff implemented in modern microservices, such as Google Docs.

    Other than that it's just IRC in shiny. ... Which is where the "Shiny" actually comes in.

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  13. Re:I don't use... by thomn8r · · Score: 1
    They integrated the functionality in to their own product, then killed it.

    Embrace, extend, extinguish

  14. Re:I don't use... by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    Acquire, add, assassinate.
    Buy, build, bomb.