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Microsoft Is Embracing Android As the Mobile Version of Windows (theverge.com)

Microsoft unveiled a bunch of new hardware during a press event last night, but one of the most interesting announcements the company made was their new "Your Phone" app for Windows 10. Basically, the feature will let Android users mirror any app on their device to a Windows 10 desktop. The Verge's Tom Warren writes about how Microsoft is embracing Android as the mobile version of Windows: We've seen a variety of ways of bringing Android apps to Windows in recent years, including Bluestacks and even Dell's Mobile Connect software. This app mirroring is certainly easier to do with Android, as it's less restricted than iOS. Still, Microsoft's welcoming embrace of Android in Windows 10 with this app mirroring is just the latest in a number of steps the company has taken recently to really help align Android as the mobile equivalent of Windows.

Microsoft Launcher is designed to replace the default Google experience on Android phones, and bring Microsoft's own services and Office connectivity to the home screen. It's a popular launcher that Microsoft keeps updating, and it's even getting support for the Windows 10 Timeline feature that lets you resume apps and sites across devices. All of this just reminds me of Windows Phone. It's only been three years since Microsoft launched its Lumia 950 Windows 10 Mobile device at a packed holiday hardware event. Windows Phone has vanished in the last couple of years, and Microsoft finally admitted Windows Phone was dead nearly a year ago. The software maker has now embraced the reality that people don't need Windows on a phone. Instead, it's embracing Android as the mobile version of Windows.

76 comments

  1. Embracing... by sconeu · · Score: 4, Informative

    You know what the other two "E"s are...

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    1. Re: Embracing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Exterminate Apple? Enjoy?

      Sounds good to me.

    2. Re:Embracing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what the other two "E"s are...

      If history is any guide that means it will become extremely popular and pervasive. The only thing that has been applied to (well at least mentioned once in an email) was to Java which powers Android which is the most popular consumer operating system for personal computing in the world. Seriously this one phrase of "embrace, extend, extinguish" has never actually been done on anything it has been applied to (which is only Java) and in fact what happened is the complete opposite of that.

    3. Re:Embracing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You know what the other two "E"s are...

      This is exactly what Google has done with AOSP. Rather than an 'embrace' stage they built a free, open source operating system and got everybody to embrace it predominantly on that premise. Then they started deprecating functionality in AOSP in favor of their proprietary Google Play Services layer and now they really only extend Android by developing important features in that layer. Ultimately AOSP will cease to be representative of Android at all and be effectively extinguished.

      If Microsoft provide a layer that implements those important Google Play Services APIs then at least there will be an alternative to Google Android. It's still a bit baffling that the FOSS community hasn't stepped up to this, AOSP was a great base for an open and free mobile operating system but much like desktop Linux it seems the FOSS solution is destined to be a late-to-the-game, also-ran mess of NIH syndrome solutions that maybe a tiny percentage of devotees will use.

    4. Re:Embracing... by spongman · · Score: 2

      electrical engineering?

    5. Re:Embracing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the October W10 update, they state you can now use W10 to do text messaging, instead of using your Android device. That means they need to know your phone number(cell) and password(I'm guessing), but in any event, as W10 does away with the notion of privacy, I'd not even consider giving microsoft more than the minimum required.

    6. Re:Embracing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ayup - What happened to "I'm Going to Fucking Kill Google"?

    7. Re: Embracing... by stephanruby · · Score: 4, Informative

      Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      That being said, I doubt they'll be able to do that anymore. They don't have the same dominance they used to have. At this point, Microsoft is just trying to survive, it's no longer capable of dominating anymore.

    8. Re: Embracing... by DutchDopey · · Score: 1

      What could you possibly gain by that ? We need more players in the technology world, not less.

    9. Re:Embracing... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      There's only one other E. The correct saying now is "Embrace, Extend, Watch-idiots-misquote-this-because-they-don't-understand-how-EEE-works".

    10. Re:Embracing... by sd4f · · Score: 1

      It communicates through an app to your phone. The phone still does the texting and everything, just that on your phone is an intermediary that communicates with your windows desktops. Theoretically, it shouldn't need to know your number, but probably will anyway.

      These features sound ok until you go crazy with absolutely everything throwing a notification at you, rather than just your phone. These features have been messed around with on windows mobile, and you just get sick of seeing the same notifications on all your devices.

    11. Re:Embracing... by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

      MS is doing this in order to delay the descent of Windows into irrelevance.

    12. Re:Embracing... by sd4f · · Score: 1

      It's looking like killing google has been having the opposite effect.

    13. Re: Embracing... by mjwx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      That being said, I doubt they'll be able to do that anymore. They don't have the same dominance they used to have. At this point, Microsoft is just trying to survive, it's no longer capable of dominating anymore.

      This, they tried to do the three E's thing with Windows Phone, leveraging their waning dominance on the server/desktop market to a phone market they ignored whilst Google ate their lunch. The process was more akin to the DABDA stages of grief.

      Denial = Android will never take off.
      Anger = Hurrr, we'll sue Google for everything. And release our own half arsed operating system with tiles and solitaire.
      Bargaining = Maybe if we buy Nokia people will buy it.
      Depression = Why won't people buying Windows Phones.
      Acceptance = Lets start making apps for Android and try to forget this whole Windows Phone palaver.

      Microsoft's power has waned from the days of the 90's when they could take down competition at a whim. Microsoft are now starting to lose their grip on the enterprise market.

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    14. Re:Embracing... by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      If Microsoft provide a layer that implements those important Google Play Services APIs then at least there will be an alternative to Google Android. It's still a bit baffling that the FOSS community hasn't stepped up to this, AOSP was a great base for an open and free mobile operating system but much like desktop Linux it seems the FOSS solution is destined to be a late-to-the-game, also-ran mess of NIH syndrome solutions that maybe a tiny percentage of devotees will use.

      The problem is that "framework" stuff is generally "boring" and "not my itch" type development. FOSS is great for "scratch my itch" projects, but the boring infrastructure projects generally have to be subsidized by someone else

      It's one of those unfortunate realities - unless the FOSS development is sponsored by a company, generally only the "exciting" stuff gets done

      Ironically, that might end up to be Microsoft.

    15. Re:Embracing... by drevange · · Score: 2

      Every time I see or hear somebody call Android open source I have to puke and wonder if they know what Open Source actually means or are just blinded by Google. Google 100% controls Android. 100%. You can maybe call it "Open Sauce" - but definitely not Open Source. You can add your own flavor to it, the sauce if you will, but you can't add or control jack shit.

    16. Re: Embracing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > We need more players in the technology world, not less.

      Microsoft has killed off Linux netbooks and WebOS (by threatening 'Loyalty' discounts); Symbian, Asha, Meltemi, Maemo/Meego, Nokia-X (by contracts with Nokia); Windows Phone and Nokia (by incompetence).

      Yes, we need more players in the technology world, but we will only get that when Microsoft dies.

    17. Re:Embracing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > If Microsoft provide a layer that implements those important Google Play Services APIs then at least there will be an alternative to Google Android.

      Nokia produced ASOP based Nokia X phones that used Nokia and Microsoft services just before MS completed the buyout. MS continued making these as Microsoft X for a few months but cancelled them as they started to outsell Windows Phone.

      MS killed Symbian, Asha, Maemo/Meego, Meltemi (by contract with Nokia); WebOS (by WoA - Windows on ARM - and 'Loyalty' discounts); Nokia X (by spite); and Windows Phone (by incompetence).

      It is Microsoft that is to blame for lack of competition for Android.

      > It's still a bit baffling that the FOSS community hasn't stepped up to this,

      Ubuntu Phone, Sailfish, several other Linux phones. F-droid, Openmap, OpenStreetMap. Yes, the FOSS community is stepping up to this.

    18. Re:Embracing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're confusing Open Source with Free Software.

    19. Re:Embracing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are an idiot.

      Anybody is free to fork AOSP and run their own project, much like CyanogenMod, LineageOS and countless others on XDA Devs have done.

      I run custom Android ROMs on my phone and tablets, none of which include gapps at all and they work perfectly fine. Go back to Microsoft or Apple or wherever you crawled out from to spread your FUD, shill.

    20. Re: Embracing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As for the Windows phones, they never really did Embrace. They dabbled, messed up a couple of times, and gave up after Google took over. They never got around to Extend (except in the user interface) and Extinguish (that kind of happened to them instead of the other way.

      Windows itself is a shell on an underlying operating system. In principle, the MS Launcher for Android should be able to do everything that it did on a Windows phone. The Windows Phone apps, to the extent that real Android apps don't work better, should be portable to Android especially since they were converted to UWP. So no, MS doesn't need Windows to provide the Windows experience on an Android phone.

      The other question this raises, of course, is whether you need Windows for a Windows experience on a PC/laptop/tablet. Linux provides a good XP-like experience already; why couldn't the good parts of the Windows 8-10 experience (there are a few - not many, but a few) find their way into a suitable Linux desktop environment?

    21. Re: Embracing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The three facts of computing. Microsoft kills phones before they have a chance, Google creates and kills off messaging software weekly, and Apple tries to drag people into proprietary software/hardware whether they want it or not.

    22. Re: Embracing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, all those OSes failed because they were garbage, not because of some Microsoft conspiracy. Even if Microsoft went away all that Free Software would still be shit, it's not Microsoft that is making it shit, it's failed on its own. Even Microsoft's Windows ME, Vista and 8 were fucking horrendous operating systems but they were still leaps and bounds better than any Free Software offering. Yes there is a tiny niche of dedicated enthusiasts that will use Linux and suffer all the problems that come with it by arguing that "at least it isnt Windows" but most people arent that self-loathing.

    23. Re:Embracing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what the other two "E"s are...

      they will not succeed

  2. At long last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this the year of Linux [mirrored] on the desktop?

    1. Re: At long last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it is interesting how microsoft is gradually swithcing to linux. besides this, they have also acknowledged that windows server is losing to linux for most uses and azure is now dominated by linux instances.

  3. Waiting for the inevitable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linux is already the dominant kernel on azure, rebasing Windows on a Linux kernel and a official Win32 on Linux layer will eventually come.

    1. Re:Waiting for the inevitable by llamalad · · Score: 1

      Would they re-invent WINE or become contributors to it?

    2. Re:Waiting for the inevitable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doubt it. They would probably have a closed source, proprietary compatibility layer.

      Microsoft hates open source. The only reason they pretend to like it is because open source runs the world and Microsoft wants a free ride.

    3. Re:Waiting for the inevitable by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Would they re-invent WINE or become contributors to it?

      I wouldn't think so, the Win32 API would remain and probably have some sort of Linux Subsystem for Windows (the opposite of the Windows Subsystem for Linux) so the kernel could be switched. Then most likely new APIs and functionality would go through WSL so they could run on a Windows kernel but be switched to a Linux kernel.

  4. Let's pretend history doesn't repeat. Embraced! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's pretend history doesn't repeat. Embraced!

    1. Re:Let's pretend history doesn't repeat. Embraced! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's pretend history doesn't repeat. Embraced!

      I hope it does! Microsoft was supposedly applying that to Java and we all know how that turned out.

      The funny thing is that the idea of having Java as the one application platform and having this WORA approach is terrible, Java is horrendous and WORA never worked properly (even if you used Sun's VM rather than Microsoft's). No sane person would even argue that we should abstract away the OS behind a Java VM today much less 20-odd years ago when Java performance was really woeful. Microsoft was right, their justification may have been questionable but it's a good thing we didn't end up with Java replacing native applications.

  5. The obsolescence of Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Time to end the Great Schism of computing by putting Windows out to pasture.

    1. Re:The obsolescence of Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Time to end the Great Schism of computing by putting Windows out to pasture.

      In favor of what? macOS is the closest viable system and it is limited by hardware support. Don't even bother trying to suggest Linux, even with hundreds of distributions and years of availability it was overtaken multiple times over by even Windows Vista...yes Windows fucking Vista! was multiple times more popular than all those hundreds of Linux distributions combined. Windows Vista was a fucking terrible OS much like most of its successors but as a desktop OS it was still a lot better than any Linux distro. If I had my preference it would be macOS with broader hardware offerings but I don't see that happening any time soon.

  6. Windows Phone GUI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm no fan of Microsoft (Linux user) but I had a cheap Windows Lumia for a while. I really liked the GUI on it. Way better than Android's

    1. Re:Windows Phone GUI? by mcswell · · Score: 1

      Agreed. When the post said Microsoft was offering its Launcher on Android, I was hoping that meant you could have an Android that looked like the Windows-on-phone system, but running Android apps; so when my Lumia gives up the ghost, I could get a cheap phone but still have the same-looking GUI. No such luck, the launcher seems to be much less useful.

    2. Re:Windows Phone GUI? by drevange · · Score: 1

      Also agreed - too bad it didn't do better. A launcher might end up working out really well for them. Hundreds of millions of younger generation that are intimately familiar with XBox UI and also Windows 10 now.

  7. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No

    1. Re:No by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Stomp your foot. Say it again.

      Go ahead and pout if it makes you feel better.

    2. Re: No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's it, my penis, your ass, boys locker room, 5 minutes.

  8. I hope it happens. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then Android's reign of terror can finally be stilled.

  9. The real competition for android is not iOS by williamyf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The real competition for android is AOSP.

    Last time I saw the numbers* for Mobile OS market share:

    Android total: 81%
    - Google's Android: 55%
    - AOSP Android: 27%

    - iOS Total: 18%

    - Other: 1%
    % do not add up due to rounding errors

    So, phase 1, embrace Google's Android, while mantaining compatibility with AOSP.

    Phase 2: Extend AOSP, giving it functional equivalents to the functions Google keeps behind the Google Play Services, that have either no equivalents in AOSP, or Delerict APIs

    Phase 3: I hope they do not extinguish Google's Android, but at least lessen Alphabet's grip on the mobile market. This monoculture is as bad (or worse) for us than the Windows desktop and browser monopoly was in the 90's and 00's.

    * Numbers come from here:
    http://communities-dominate.bl...

    Sorry for not posting the full link, /. threw a filter error

    I do not agree with all that Tomi wites, and I do not like his writting style, but I give it to him, he has the best publicly available numbers, and I thank him for give them away for free.

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    1. Re:The real competition for android is not iOS by supremebob · · Score: 1

      So, what's Microsoft's endgame here? A custom branded version of Android with Microsoft extensions? I'm not really seeing a lot of profit in that.

    2. Re:The real competition for android is not iOS by jezwel · · Score: 2

      So, what's Microsoft's endgame here? A custom branded version of Android with Microsoft extensions? I'm not really seeing a lot of profit in that.

      Seamless access and handover between mobile, local, and hosted apps appears to be the goal, agnostic to the underlying hardware and OS kernel.

      * Use O365 apps on your Android phone
      * Boot your virtual Win365 work desktop, running O365, hosted on Azure, mirrored to whatever display you have nearby - and picking up where you left off - on any device you can configure to boot from Azure stored VMs
      * Head into work and access a Net-PC or workstation, or dock your phone, and again pickup from where you were before.

    3. Re:The real competition for android is not iOS by williamyf · · Score: 1

      So, what's Microsoft's endgame here? A custom branded version of Android with Microsoft extensions? I'm not really seeing a lot of profit in that.

      the idea is not to get a custom branded version of android.

      Is convincing all those guys making AOSP devices (and maybe some end users with Google Play android as well), to preinstall/use microsoft launcher and services instead of the hodgepodge set of services and delerict APIs they are using now (with very variable results).

      If you are in an emerging market (full disclosure, I am in Venezuela), compare side by side any AOSP device with a Google one of similar price and see.

      If you live in a developed market (for example USoA or any other of the five eyes), it may be harder to find an ASOP phone, so compare an Android tablet with an Amazon fire tablet (which is AOSP, by the way) of similar price and see...

      If they can get half of that 27% of the AOSP smartphone market using their services (like bing, the microsoft-AOL ad network, outlook.com and onedrive, for example) that gives them a significantly better position than what they were able to reach with their own OS.

      Maybe not a lot of profit (not losses either), but a significant strategic gain.

      Only time will tell.

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    4. Re:The real competition for android is not iOS by BadDreamer · · Score: 4, Informative

      [quote]So, what's Microsoft's endgame here?[/quote]

      Everyone subscribing to Microsoft's software services and cloud, directly or through phone plan.

    5. Re:The real competition for android is not iOS by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      So, what's Microsoft's endgame here?

      Complete buy-in to the Windows ecosystem with all of MS's services at the core.

    6. Re:The real competition for android is not iOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > A custom branded version of Android with Microsoft extensions?

      They already had that with Nokia/Microsoft X phones in 2014. But they cancelled them because they might outsell Windows Phone.

    7. Re:The real competition for android is not iOS by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 1

      If you believe the mission statement, the end game is "to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more." I hear that literally every time Mr. Nadella speaks. He's platform agnostic too. He wants to change the world on Windows, Android, Linux, iOS, on desktops, in the cloud, on phones, on tablets, everywhere.

      I wouldn't work for Microsoft if EEE was still the vision, but I understand why people are skeptical. It's a different company under Satya. That said, There were a lot of bridges burned, and there is no ctrl-Z for that. They have to build new bridges instead.

    8. Re:The real competition for android is not iOS by supremebob · · Score: 1

      So, basically, he doesn't care what platform they are on, as long as they have Office 365 subscriptions and are running applications hosted on Azure. Gotcha.

  10. Repeat by commodore64_love · · Score: 2

    Repeat article. I just read the exact-same thing last night.

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  11. Slashvertisements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot in 2018: One big clickbaity advertisement after another for Microsoft.

    Heck, Microsoft already bought Github.

    Any guesses on how soon they buy Slashdot?

    With the recent pace of slashvertisements here, I give it until no later than the end of this calendar year.

  12. SOON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thereâ(TM)s a new desktop coming to Linux. There are mature builds of Windows 10 desktop that fully ditch the Windows Kernel over Linux with explorer etc working with common Linux file systems. LVM support is getting better and the file system structure is generally hidden beneath the windows explorer standard folder structure.

    Graphics performance is on par with native systems and security is improved with more controls etc.

    Itâ(TM)s going to get interesting to say the least.

    1. Re: SOON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We call it KDE.

  13. Just in time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just as Google are ready to drop Android and move to their new OS - something something mauve / purple? Maybe they sold Android to MS. What next MS? Will "Windows 2020" will be actually be Debian/Ubuntu based MS-Linux and no more DOS-based plus much plumbing? Just with licensing, spyware and malware behaviour added?

  14. Wow, that's harsh. by jcr · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm certainly no fan of Android or any other half-assed knock-off of Apple's IP, but calling it the "mobile version of Windows" is much further than even I'd go in disparaging it.

    -jcr

    --
    The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
    1. Re:Wow, that's harsh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good old JCR can always be relied on to shill for crapple, just another deluded fanboy lying again. Sad.

    2. Re:Wow, that's harsh. by jcr · · Score: 1

      crapple

      You're so persuasive. I'll give up on quality and buy the same shit that a prole like you can afford now.

      -jcr

      --
      The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
    3. Re:Wow, that's harsh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He hit a nerve, obviously. You Apple fanbois are so insecure that it's too easy to make you cry.

    4. Re:Wow, that's harsh. by jcr · · Score: 1

      He hit a nerve

      Dream on.

      Apple fanbois are so insecure

      Keep telling yourself that. I'm sure it will help you deal with the crushing feelings of inadequacy you have from being unable to afford decent products.

      -jcr

      --
      The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
    5. Re:Wow, that's harsh. by sirpwn4g3 · · Score: 1

      Really dude? "Unable to afford decent products". Get real, the difference between an iphone and android to the average user is nothing but window dressing. Quit fanboying and be realistic.

    6. Re:Wow, that's harsh. by KlomDark · · Score: 1

      Unable to afford? Buahahaha!

      I definitely can afford it, but I refuse to be locked into the rotten fruit ecosystem. Fuck your pansy-assed shitphone and all the rest of the idiotic trash from that jewelry company.

    7. Re: Wow, that's harsh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whooooosh
      You must be new here. Welcome.

    8. Re: Wow, that's harsh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you'd rather give all your data to google to do as they please.

      Got it.

  15. old wine old bottle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Glad they have gone back to their roots. The cause of their success in the past was "Backwards compatibility" and "Migration tools". When they launched Windows phone, there was no way people will invest in yet another operating system when its not having market share.

    Make no mistakes, windows phone might be coming around allowing you to install Android apps. As a developer, I will be glad to push my app on windows as long as I don't have to rewrite everything.

    1. Re:old wine old bottle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll still think bottle is new :-)

  16. Unnecessary, really. by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Android already WAS the mobile version of Windows, in that it was a case where someone elseâ(TM) work was taken by a company that grew really huge with the help of something they did not create, and who paid very little or nothing for it, and then proceeded to build an EMPIRE on it, while in reality, objectively, it is an ugly kludge of cobbled-together, mismatched parts that has become, despite its many, many MANY flaws, THE big thing that people eventually either come to love, or love to hate.

    So Microsoft giving its irrelevant blessing just looks like an octogenarian announcing that he is joining a punk rock band, and learning to skateboard and wants to do body shots to convince his great great great grandkids he is cool.

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  17. But this time it's going to work ? by DrYak · · Score: 1

    But why do they think that *this peculiar time* it's finally going to work after a gazillion of failed attempts by nearly everyone else ? (e.g.: Citrix)

    The history is littered with the corpses of failed such attempts.
    Why do they think that suddently its going to work better now ?

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    1. Re:But this time it's going to work ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a strange case of people accepting Microsoft "solutions" even when they are shit, because, it's Microsoft. Any other company is not allowed to do something that is shit, but when Microsoft does it, people just tend to accept that it is the way it is.

    2. Re:But this time it's going to work ? by nine-times · · Score: 1

      My guess is that what's different is they're seeing traction with Azure.

      If you can build your infrastructure in Azure and then Microsoft creates a VDI product in Azure that is easy to setup, manage, and use, I could see it working this time. At least working better.

      It also might be that they don't see the remote desktop situation as having changed, but just that their position has changed. They don't have the same kind of lock on the desktop OS market that they used to, and they're not charging for upgrades. Instead, they're looking for ways to push it as a subscription. Turning it into an online service by hosting the desktop would accomplish that.

    3. Re:But this time it's going to work ? by jezwel · · Score: 1
      Probably because Microsoft can control all the software I listed except the Android OS, and have been getting the Windows Subsystems for Linux working better anyway so that shouldn't be a problem. How to pickup where you left off on different devices should be covered if all their apps save their state to Azure.

      It might work this time because MS licence agreements are all moving to user based subscriptions - which remove much of the compliance headaches of previous solutions - and the capability is (I assume) being added into everything they release.

      Of course, that's all an assumption, I have nothing to do with this IRL.

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  19. First Linux, now Android by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    Just another step along the path Microsoft has laid out for themselves, to be the one-and-only OS in the world: now begins the annexation of Android, like they've been doing to Linux.

  20. It's like I was saying to a recruiter last night.. by cshark · · Score: 1

    There's this one big recruiting company that's very interested in me again for some reason. Been corresponding with one of their recruiters at length for a couple of weeks now. Last night, I was talking about the things I will and won't work on, and/or code with. I mentioned that I'll write code on or for just about anything... except .net. To which I followed up, "But Microsoft has been oddly standards based the last couple of years, it's completely out of character for them. And, honestly, I'm worried them. I hope they feel better and get back to their evil uncompetitive selves soon."

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  21. Not even close to "mobile Windows" by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

    Have you tried the app? All it does is let you remotely control texting and photos access from your PC. It doesn't let you run Android apps on your PC, it doesn't even let you do a sort of "remote desktop" to your phone. It's much simpler than that.