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Banksy Artwork Self-Destructs At Auction Right After Being Sold For $1.3 Million (cbsnews.com)

OpenSourceAllTheWay writes: Elusive street artist Banksy's famous "Girl With Balloon" artwork was on sale at a Sotheby's auction in New York inside what looked like a normal, if slightly old fashioned painting frame. As soon as the auction concluded — the artwork was sold to a bidder for a cool $1.3 Million — a whirring noise started coming from the artwork hanging on the wall, and "Girl With Ballon" started moving down inside its frame, coming out the bottom of the frame in shredded strips. In what must be an art world first, the artwork suddenly self-shredded in front of hundreds of stunned auction attendants. It appears that — somehow — Banksy or some other prankster installed a battery powered paper shredding mechanism in the bottom of the artwork's frame that can be remotely triggered. In a tweet on his Twitter account, Banksy posted an image of the destructed artwork and wrote "Going, gone, gone...", potentially mocking the practice of auctioning famous artworks off for large sums of money. The question now is precisely what — if anything — the buyer of the artwork gets for his or her money, and whether "Girl With Balloon" is worth more or less than before now.

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  1. Art experts say it is worth 2x shredded by JoeyRox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which tells you everything you need to know about how specious and capricious the valuation model is for the art market.

    1. Re:Art experts say it is worth 2x shredded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Which tells you everything you need to know about how specious and capricious the valuation model is for the art market.

      Capricious yes, specious not entirely. Art is about things like communicating ideas and finding new ways to express them. I can't see much that is newer art than doubling the value of a work by shredding it in public. It says so much about the arbitrary way that people value things. There can have been no greater shock than having just bought a new work and watching it apparently disappear before you. Being so rich you can own and take away something that was originally given to the public by being put out as graffiti and yet not being able to own it because the artist (maybe? - he seems to have been at least tipped off) manages to control and change the presentation of his own work.

      IMHO being able to arrange something like this shows that Banksy actually is worth the money.

    2. Re:Art experts say it is worth 2x shredded by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Meh, nerds will pay a fortune for used, damaged stuff that is somehow famous. Props from movies and TV shows, stuff that's been in space, parts of famous machines, letters written by notable people, classic cars etc.

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    3. Re: Art experts say it is worth 2x shredded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "fake news", whatever it originally meant, now means "I the person hearing this am to cretinous to process this new information; if it was true I would have to change my whole world outlook and I am fully incapable of even doing that partially". Under that definition for some of the basement dwellers here, this almost certainly counts as fake news.

    4. Re:Art experts say it is worth 2x shredded by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, that's true of the market for everything. The most precious commodity there is for human survival is air, but there is nonetheless the cliche "Free as air."

      Market prices in an ideal economy reflect efficient distribution of resources like paint, canvas and skilled labor, without passing any ethical or aesthetic judgment on the use to which they are put. Take for example, this item. It has no utility value, and it's taste is questionable, but the fact that it can be sold for $90 justifies putting the resources into making it rather than, say, medical prosthetics or water purification equipment for some poor village.

      The great virtue of the market economy is that it works, not that it makes any sense. It only makes sense in a circular fashion; if you define what is sensible by what the market economy chooses to do.

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    5. Re:Art experts say it is worth 2x shredded by gweihir · · Score: 2

      Capricious yes, specious not entirely. Art is about things like communicating ideas and finding new ways to express them.

      More like giving the finger to people with too much money in ways they do not get....

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    6. Re:Art experts say it is worth 2x shredded by Frank+Burly · · Score: 2

      I sort-of agree with the experts. It looks like a standard Banksy picture, which is cute, but nothing special. The shredding of it is part of the message, and shows that the artist actually put some thought into it.

      The thought is contempt for the person who spent so much on a run-of-the-mill painting--but I sort-of agree with that too.

    7. Re:Art experts say it is worth 2x shredded by scottrocket · · Score: 2

      I had to shake my head and grin as I read the story - hadn't heard of it before /. - surreal! Whether it's worth more or less (I suspect more) is irrelevant. It's just like, you know, really cool! Made my weekend. Maybe modern art, whatever that is has something more to say - post-art? Meta-art?

    8. Re: Art experts say it is worth 2x shredded by onepoint · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think that the shredding added value because now the art ( which is well accepted and liked ) has added a value of a statement or act.

      like a famous gun that killed someone, it's value increase due to the action it was involved in.

      personally, I think it was brilliant. and just the opportunity to watch it happen will give me joy on how wonderful creativity can be.

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  2. Same newsfeeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How come news sites all cover the same jackass stories. Don't they realise we see the very same content on every site we go to? Why don't I just go direct to AP?

    1. Re:Same newsfeeds by Knuckles · · Score: 2

      How come news sites all cover the same jackass stories. Don't they realise we see the very same content on every site we go to? Why don't I just go direct to AP?

      Visitors and hence the ensuing discussion is different on each site

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  3. Amazing part by religionofpeas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What I find amazing is that there doesn't seem to be a video showing actual shredding. Just the aftermath.

    1. Re:Amazing part by religionofpeas · · Score: 2

      First of all, people shoot videos of any random thing, and there was a room full of people. Secondly, you don't have be filming the painting. You could have a phone in your hand, and then start recording as soon as you see it happening. Thirdly, someone knew it was going to happen.

    2. Re: Amazing part by bugnuts · · Score: 2
    3. Re:Amazing part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      https://youtu.be/ShcX_Zvn9WU

      WAKE UP SLASHDOT

    4. Re:Amazing part by Knutsi · · Score: 3, Informative

      The artist posted this himself: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo...

  4. I can't believe Sothebys' Was Surprised by mykepredko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While a very cool hack and worthy of banksy, I have to question as to whether or not Sotheby's was surprised.

    For this to have worked, the frame must be quite heavy to allow the shredder mechanism to be hidden within a hollowed out area and not be noticed by being heavier at one end. Along with that, the canvas must have seemed to be mounted in an atypical fashion so that the feed and guides were invisible. Finally, I presume that the shredder was controlled by something like a cell phone - I presume there would be a big honking battery in there because I would have to think would be days/weeks between receiving the art, having it on display and then starting the auction.

    As I said, very cool hack, but I can't believe that Sotheby's was surprised by it.

    1. Re:I can't believe Sothebys' Was Surprised by dj245 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Finally, I presume that the shredder was controlled by something like a cell phone - I presume there would be a big honking battery in there because I would have to think would be days/weeks between receiving the art, having it on display and then starting the auction.

      As I said, very cool hack, but I can't believe that Sotheby's was surprised by it.

      Apparently it was in storage for some time, but it was authenticated a short time ago by Pest Control. That would have given them the opportunity to change or charge batteries. Whether or not Sotheby's knew is anyone's guess. I suppose it is possible that Pest Control shushed up the Sotheby's people responsible for supervising them, and perhaps the auctioneering staff didn't know.

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    2. Re:I can't believe Sothebys' Was Surprised by Zocalo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I dunno, some frames are pretty heavy, especially the wooden ones, so it wouldn't be too difficult to put the shredder in the bottom and some batteries in the top and sides to balance it all up. Having the frame cover the guides wouldn't be too unusual either; it's quite common for the outer edge of a canvas or print to be behind the frame - usually it's wrapped all the way around and fixed on the rear. There are any number of release mechanisms that don't suck much juice either; you just need to think beyond the couple of days of your typical smartphone with all feature enabled - a modified camera remote could work very well for instance.

      That said, I'm pretty sure that Sotheby's was aware to at least expect *something* out of the ordinary, if not exactly what was going to happen. Note also it appears to have stopped shredding with the image partially intact and still in the frame in a manner that still allows for display, probably by design so that the buyer is going to be upset either. Quite the opposite in fact; they now have an extremely famous piece of art that is now an extremely famous piece of performance art as well - instant appreciation in value, for those that are into that kind of thing.

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    3. Re:I can't believe Sothebys' Was Surprised by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Informative

      For this to have worked, the frame must be quite heavy to allow the shredder mechanism to be hidden within a hollowed out area and not be noticed by being heavier at one end. Along with that, the canvas must have seemed to be mounted in an atypical fashion so that the feed and guides were invisible. Finally, I presume that the shredder was controlled by something like a cell phone - I presume there would be a big honking battery in there because I would have to think would be days/weeks between receiving the art, having it on display and then starting the auction.

      I disagree.

      First hardwood frames are REALLY heavy, like surprisingly so. The shredder mechanism isn't going to be an office-type shredder which can handle 6 sheets at once and has a service life of thousands of sheets. It had to shred half a thing once ever. So, it could be of a much lighter construction; it's not like banksy had to worry about it getting blunted through use.

      For the power source, a stack of primary lithium AAs would be more than adequate. And they have a very long shelf life (95% after 20 years).

      http://data.energizer.com/pdfs... (page 14)

      Triggering is an interesting one. Banksy was clearly there or sent someone there since he's subsequently posted a video of the shredding. So, the triggering could have been local either by RF or infra-red. That leads to a lot of interesting options. Sensors based on those are much, much lower power than a cell phone. And you could do something like wake up for a second every hour to listen for a signal, then either deep sleep or stay alert depending.

      It would take some decent EE nouse to design that to last for a long time, but then again a smoke alarm can last a decade off a lithium PP3, and this thing could have had a lot more battery power in it.

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  5. I don't know about 2x but definitely worth more by mykepredko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is art that the artist, presumably, updated after being sold.

    He's publicly updated it especially for the buyer. You don't know if it was specific to this buyer or if there were other options to the shredding depending on the mood of the artist.

    I think it's fair to say it's now worth more.

    1. Re:I don't know about 2x but definitely worth more by crunchygranola · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Some other factors to consider:

      If you look at photos of the post-shredded picture, you see that it is only half shredded (the upper part with the balloon is unshredded) which holds the picture together, and that the image of the girl is still intact, just hanging together in strips. So any claim that is is "destroyed" is factually false. At worst it is "damaged". If the buyer wanted to they could reframe it, with the strips carefully glued down and only close inspection would tell the difference.

      Bansky has used this image many times. This is not his only "Girl with Balloon" image, but it is now his most famous one. How can that not add to its value, even if you dismiss the high end art world as pretentious gits? Fame has always been associated directly with value in art.

      Looking at the post-shred state it does look like a modern conceptual art installation piece (whether you respect that or not is irrelevant). This piece now has a story: the piece of art is what Banksy intended it to be, a dynamic object that changed its state upon be acquired (but without the acquirer knowing about the state change in advance). If the buyer decides they are upset about the final state of the piece, they might be able to get the purchase contract rescinded on the grounds that what they were buying was not fully disclosed, but that depend on the fine print of what they agreed to when they registered to bid. But I bet if they are upset they can resell it for more than they just paid. Famous, you know.

      Last I checked there did not seem to be any statement by the new owner.

      Several posters have asserted here that high end art is a hobby for people and organizations with more money than they know what to do with. And this is true pretty much (give or take a few value-laden terms).

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    2. Re:I don't know about 2x but definitely worth more by thegarbz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So any claim that is is "destroyed" is factually false. At worst it is "damaged".

      If this was actually the work of Bansky himself the artwork is now not so much "destroy" or "damaged" as it is "completed".

    3. Re:I don't know about 2x but definitely worth more by Solandri · · Score: 2

      As Banksy is alive and active, he's still in control of the valuation of his works. If he's upset that his art is being sold for millions of dollars, all he has to do is crank out a metric ton more art. The widespread availability of his art will then cause the value of each individual work to drop, essentially shredding the investment art collectors have put into his works, without physically damaging his art.

  6. Wow. by BigDukeSix · · Score: 2

    As an erstwhile collector of art, a nerd, and a wannabe evil genius, I am simultaneously appalled, amused, and envious. Bravo, sir. Well played.

  7. Re:Felony by Desler · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The buyer is probably ecstatic because they can sell it for much more now that people are claiming it's worth even more now.

  8. Re:So to get rich by religionofpeas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No you need to be original. You can't just copy someone else's disdain.

  9. Re:He didn't have much moral credibility before th by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Shitty stunt? I say performance art of the highest order.

    Bravo!

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  10. Re:Felony by BigDukeSix · · Score: 2

    Agree. This painting is now famous. It's going to be worth way more than $1.3M in ten years. Buyer has to be psyched.

  11. Isn't the "art" market by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    just an excuse for rich folks with too much money to spend a day out? Crap like this is what makes me wish for the glory days of a 90% marginal tax rate. If you're gonna shred your money anyway might as well spend it on roads and schools.

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    1. Re:Isn't the "art" market by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not just that, it's an opportunity to pick up some excellent money laundering instruments.

      At this point I wish for the glory days of the 90%+ marginal tax rate about a dozen times per day.

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    2. Re:Isn't the "art" market by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Crap like what?

      It's actually got a bunch of nerds yourslef included debating the meaning of art. Was the art destroyed or completed? Was the shredding an inherent part of the work? Does the buyer have recourse? Is it worth more?

      Is it art?

      Given how much trolling goes on here I'm surprised at the number of people who don't seem to appreciate that they have just been trolled massively.

      It's provoked thought and discussion. Achievement unlocked.

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  12. Re:CNN has video footage while it was happening by Knuckles · · Score: 2

    That's after it happened

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  13. Re: Interesting.. by Miamicanes · · Score: 2

    In the US, from the perspective of common law, the buyer would technically have no recourse in a purely civil claim unless he could establish that he suffered harm that can be quantified in dollars... and that he actually DID suffer a net loss. So, he might still have an actionable claim if he suffered indirect harm whose cash value exceeded the instant profit from the art doubling in value... but it would be an uphill battle to quantify the cash value of an emotion like "disappointment".

    There's also & independently the possibility of criminal prosecution ("conversion", for example, might be a tort... but in most jurisdictions, it can ALSO be a criminal offense under certain conditions). The catch with the criminal angle is that the buyer purchased "experimental art" from someone KNOWN for doing things like this, so Banksy could semi-legitimately argue that the unanticipated public shredding was itself integral the art & what was purchased.

    TL/DR: legally, it's the kind of case only the lawyers would collectively win. If the buyer is unhappy, their best recourse would honestly be to just flip the painting to someone else & walk away. At most, a vengeful buyer might spend a fortune, waste time testifying in court, give Banksy a metaphorical black eye... and be blacklisted as a potential art buyer going forward. "Experimental art" is, by definition, kind of fucked up by "normal person standards", and that applies to BOTH artists AND patrons.

  14. Re:at $1.3 Million they have the funds to sue in c by sjames · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Was it lost? They sold a work of art from Banksey. That is, a work of art as Banksey intended for it to be. They just didn't know Banksey intended for it to be shredded. Nevertheless, it is still what it was represented to be.

    According to at least some in the art world, it is worth MORE now than it was, so the buyer can't claim lost value.

    The buyer wanted a piece of art depicting a child losing a balloon. The work turned out to be evocative enough that he actually feels at a visceral level like a child that has just lost a balloon.

  15. Re:CNN has video footage while it was happening by Knuckles · · Score: 2

    Here is the actual shredding from Banksy himself: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo...

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  16. Great art is that which evokes emotion by SethJohnson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I support your assertion and say the shredding is 100% part of the installation.

    The original image is that of a child losing a balloon to the wind. Any parent who considers it feels a sinking in their stomach knowing how upsetting this is for the child. Great art is that which can make you experience an emotion. At the moment the shredding began, the buyer was immediately inserted into the body of that little girl losing the balloon. The buyer thought they were going to acquire a prized Banksy art piece and suddenly it was stolen from their hands by the wind, just like that balloon.

    That's just one level of how this piece works. Secondarily, it sparks the exact debate filling posts here on Slashdot- is this valuable art to begin with if the value is increased by 'damaging' it? Banksy has been teasing the art world with this critique for over a decade and this piece is perhaps the epitome of that argument.

    Finally, Banksy is a financial genius building demand for her work with stunts like this. Banksy has artificially controlled availability of her work to preserve the demand and high prices. Here, it seemed as though one of Banksy's iconic paintings was going to be available for a simple exchange of cash -- but not as easy as it would appear! The work committed suicide to escape the collector! And so the hunt continues.....

  17. If only Tom Wolfe were alive for that moment! by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    There has always been a prank element in modern art. Remember those Warhol pieces that were nothing but giant stenciled prices? What are those going for today, if indeed they are still being traded?

    There has also been art that was intended to be ephemeral, like Christo’s shrouded landforms. Those were not for purchase, though. Did the buyer of this piece know it was about to self-destruct.

  18. right in TFA by gosand · · Score: 2
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  19. Re:He didn't have much moral credibility before th by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Look at it this way. Banksy got (among other things) a bunch of tech nerds yelling at each other about the meaning of art rather than vi versus emacs, Linux vs windows or republicans vs democrats.

    What is the point of art if not to provke emotion?

    Just look at the audiences faces in his video (he posted it recently). A 12 year setup for 3 seconds of some of the most epic trolling the world has seen.

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  20. Sotheby's knew by NimbleSquirrel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I find it impossible to believe that Sotheby's didn't know a thing about this. Any real art curator would have noticed something odd with the frame immediately. I also do not believe that the thing sat there for months/weeks standing by to be triggered (especially cellular trigger) and maintained enough charge to shred anything. This would mean the art curator would have to have been complicit in this too. This would be career ending for an art curator, so it is far more likely that Sotheby's knew about this the whole time.

    I expect that the buyers will sue Sotheby's pretty quickly after this. Even if the remains are now worth double, the work that was sold has been irreparably damaged/destroyed. It can easily be shown that Sotheby's knew or should have known about this. If the buyers don't sue, either Sotheby's buried a clause in their buyer Terms & Conditions, or the buyer was in on this too.

    Either way, this is an elaborate stunt that reveals Banksy as a sellout...

  21. Re:at $1.3 Million they have the funds to sue in c by Cederic · · Score: 2

    The paper is shredded just as the artist intended

    That's the bit that impressed me. Damn thing actually worked. He should go into business selling shredders.