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Facebook Unveils Portal and Portal+ Smart Speakers With Video Calling Feature (cnbc.com)

Facebook on Monday unveiled a pair of smart speakers, complete with cameras and microphones, for your home. From a report: The devices, Portal and Portal+, directly challenge Amazon, Google and Apple in the fast-growing smart-speaker market with a unique approach that will emphasize video calling. It's Facebook's first hardware product outside the Oculus line of virtual-reality devices. To start a video call, users can say "Hey Portal, call ..." followed by the name of a connection on Facebook's Messenger service. These calls include entertaining augmented-reality features that can outfit users with cat hats or turn their living rooms into animated night clubs. Another feature is Smart Camera, which uses artificial intelligence and the devices' cameras to perfectly frame users on video as they move around while on a call.

[...] Besides video calls, the Portal devices can stream music from Spotify, Pandora and Amazon Music and video from Facebook Watch. Not included at launch are services like Apple Music, YouTube, Netflix, Hulu or HBO Now. The devices come equipped with Amazon's Alexa voice assistant and the many skills available on that service, allowing them to ask questions like "What's the weather?" or "How are my teams doing?" [...] The company is taking preorders for the devices now and will begin shipping them early next month. The Portal, which features a 10-inch screen, is available for $199 while the Portal+, which has a long, 15.6-inch screen, is priced at $349.
WashingtonPost reports that the device follows the person in their house: What's unique about Facebook's device is the tech it uses to make the video calls look good. Think of it as a personal cinematographer: A 12-megapixel camera -- equivalent to most phones -- identifies the shape of people within its 140-degree field of view and pans and zooms to make sure they're all always in the frame. You can wander around the room, do chores, Jazzercise, play with the kids or whatever. (Or, if you want, you can tap on the face of one person and the Portal camera will track just them.)

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  1. Where do I sign up? by fuzznutz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just what I want: A closed platform with microphones, cameras, and Facebook spying on me 24/7.

    1. Re:Where do I sign up? by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      But it can make it look like you are in an animated night club

    2. Re:Where do I sign up? by Desler · · Score: 1

      Oh my god!! Really?!! *rushes off to order a dozen*

    3. Re:Where do I sign up? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Where do I sign up? Just what I want: A closed platform with microphones, cameras, and Facebook spying on me 24/7.

      Score: 5, Sarcasm

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    4. Re:Where do I sign up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      The UK is planning to meet it's 2020 emissions target by a combination of wind, solar and harnessing the inexorably rotating coffin of George Orwell.

    5. Re:Where do I sign up? by postbigbang · · Score: 1

      All twelve will be infected so that I can watch you in 3-2-1....

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    6. Re:Where do I sign up? by fuzznutz · · Score: 1

      Where do I sign up? Just what I want: A closed platform with microphones, cameras, and Facebook spying on me 24/7.

      Score: 5, Sarcasm

      Homer, I can hear your sarcasm from inside the house, and the dishwasher is on. What's going on?

    7. Re:Where do I sign up? by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      I know! I hope they integrate snapchat filters as well! For those people too lazy to actually put a damn costume on :)

    8. Re:Where do I sign up? by sacrilicious · · Score: 1

      Just what I want: A closed platform with microphones, cameras, and Facebook spying on me 24/7.

      It's really not that bad, Facebook has provided a way to disable data collection. In the web interface, just go to "Settings", then "IO Config", nav your way down to the middle of the page to "Data Collection Settings", in that dialog find the "Other Settings" button, and in the middle menu choose "Permissions", then "Facebook Permissions", then hover over the icon shaped like a vaccuum (but don't hover too long or you have to restart this whole process!), then choose one of the options they have, either "Never uncollect data" or "Always on" or "Only if friends 10 hops away have enabled".

      And you're set!

      (oh, sometimes the settings don't start until a month after you've done them, and they don't last through power outages nor through loud noises.)

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    9. Re:Where do I sign up? by Desler · · Score: 1

      Or a feature to add mustaches to faces.

    10. Re:Where do I sign up? by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that, now I feel totally assured that if I follow the instructions Facebook will NEVER abuse my privacy or use any data about me. I can sleep soundly at night now.

      Anyway, what is this Facebook that everyone is talking about ?

  2. Will there be cake? by scourfish · · Score: 2

    This is very important to my purchasing decision.

    1. Re:Will there be cake? by Quinn_Inuit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, they'll tell you there will be cake, but it will be a lie.

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    2. Re:Will there be cake? by yurikhan · · Score: 1

      You will be baked, and there will be cake.

  3. Only one reason to buy these by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    At first I thought, no.

    Then I thought, Hell no.

    Then I thought - what about buying one of these speakers and putting on an act whenever I was around them, to feed it completely false data? Like a looped recording that asked for the latest whereabouts of Salman Rushdie and/or Hitler every few minutes or something.

    That would be amusing but sadly I don't have that kind of free time.

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    1. Re:Only one reason to buy these by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      or point it at your TV, and then raise a notification to your tv provider that facebook is stealing their licensed property.

  4. Re:Remember the Facebook smartphone? by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    Then there were those VR glasses, whatever happened to them? Did they ever come out?

    Nope, VR turned out to be a scam. Also, Hillary turned out to not actually be evil (go figure), Trump's apparently a nice guy, after all (it was just a show)... but Musk... well, the Model 3 is actually only 1/10th scale... and those SpaceX "launches" were rendered using the same analog computers at Wright-Patterson that were used to fake the moon landings.

    Any further questions?

  5. Re:Who is actually using smart speakers? by Chrisq · · Score: 2

    It's funny, because he's also one of those paranoid guys with a large collection of guns who thinks the government is tracking him and is going to try to take his guns away.

    They should just offer him an exchange for free Amazon speakers

  6. Stalkerbook by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Stalker loves you just wants to help you.

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  7. Speakers are not smart by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    these are listening devices with a voice interface from a search engine. the speakers themselves are speakers, not smart speakers.

    If you want to see an actual speaker that is smart look at the apple homepod. that one actually does use sophisticated intelligence to improve the sound.

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    1. Re: Speakers are not smart by goombah99 · · Score: 1

      that would be a smart microphone not a smart speaker. And it's a limited sort of smart, just looking for correlation between microphones. It is not really smart in t he same way as the homepod is which is actually smart in the speaker part of this. (the homepod listens to the reflected sounds then usies this to adjust for room dynamics not just directionality.)

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  8. I'll never buy this by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    I hate Facebook and I'll never buy this or any other "smart speaker" thingamajig.

    That said, I have to say that the "Smart Camera" is impressive.

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  9. Re:Yeah "entertaining"... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    The day they come up with VR that shows you cute anime girls as assistants following you everywhere is the day this will take off.

    Example:
    Miku: Anata wa 10: 00 No kaigi o motte imasu.
    Me: What? Come on, Miku! I don't speak Japanese!

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  10. Re:Portal, huh? by sjwest · · Score: 1

    When will Cave Johnsons exploding lemons be released

  11. Re:Portal, huh? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    (I suppose this is where I sneakily mention deleting my Facebook account 4 or so years ago)

    And I suppose this is where I mention that Facebook probably only disabled your account but it's still in there somewhere. Me? I never had a Facebook account. Well, except for my shadow profile of course, but I can't control what Facebook does, only limit what they get from me.

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  12. Re:Can I get that implanted? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    You should buy the yellow no-name brand at Maxi, it's much better than the Dollarama stuff.

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  13. Re:Is anal probe included? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    If it is, it would give them about 10% marketshare in the U.S.A..

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  14. Re:Who is actually using smart speakers? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Virtual +1 Funny.

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  15. Re:Who is actually using smart speakers? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here's an idea, Slashdot. Since the "Funny" mod is not supposed to count toward karma or whatever, how about making this moderation a separate score?

    Example: (Scores: +3 Informative, +27 Funny)

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  16. "Smart speakers" by DogDude · · Score: 2

    I assume they're called "smart speakers" because smart people don't use them? That's pretty weird.

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    1. Re:"Smart speakers" by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      They're called 'smart speakers' in this context because it's smarter than the people who actually buy them.

  17. "Hey Portal! Call Alexa and have her tell Google to send an email to Siri to play songs based on my Instagram."

  18. Some actual good uses by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    In long term care facilities to keep the orderlies monitored

    Instead of just an ankle bracelet, also install them in the homes of people on probation (convicted felons have limited civil rights anyway)

    For senior citizens living on their own. "I've fallen, and I can't get up!"

    In stores to monitor pilferage.

    1. Re:Some actual good uses by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 3, Funny

      For senior citizens living on their own. "I've fallen, and I can't get up!"

      'Dialing America's Funniest Home Videos. Please wait.'

    2. Re:Some actual good uses by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 2

      These are good uses for remote-view cameras. These are not good uses for Facebook operated remote-view cameras.

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    3. Re:Some actual good uses by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      Catch up please - devices that can do that stuff have been on sale for decades.

  19. Re:Portal, huh? by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

    And the camera follows you around, keeping everyone in focus.... not creepy at all.

    You could make a skin that looks like an old timey portrait painting with the tracking cameras for the eyes so they can follow you as you move.

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  20. Strange parallel reality, indeed ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I don't know what planet these "people" live on, but it's definitely not Earth and these are definitely not humans.
    Not to denigrate alternative life styles, but I think we are at the verge of two types of lifeforms separating.
    The individual ... and the swarm lifeform.

    Classical homo sapiens always was a bit of a swarm-type due to being social, but it seems to really diverge here. I see so many "people" who openly glorify passive-thinking and passive-living and actually seem to like submitting to being merely a limb / tool / drone of their opinion leaders so much, that it can be rightfully said, that they do not want to be people, let alone individuals. (If one can speak of "will" in those cases.)
    It reminds me a bit of single-celled organisms versus multi-celled ones, with the former vastly out-numbering the latter (apparently even in our own bodies), but the latter being seen as a "higher" life-form (but who is telling us that though? ;). (Maybe our ideal only look ideal to us because they are ours.)
    Ok, one could define a swarm as a person too, so the swarm can be a person, but the drones aren't. Just like our fingers or cells aren’t people either.

    Meanwhile, I (and many others) like to be an individual and think for myself. Although I like being social too. But only where it is useful.
    I haven't thought about if I'd like being the leader of such a swarm of drones though. It would make the whole thing less of a problem, provided there wouldn’t be too many actual individuals left.

    I guess what I worry about, is how much I am already forced into this conformism, even though my individuality does not conflict with their life style and I don’t intend to harm them either. (Aka I don't claim to want the freedom to do with them whatever I want.) They are harming my freedom from their freedom (do do whatever they want) though!
    Or it's just that the swarm is so damn stupid. (Any sufficiently advanced stupidity becomes evilness. Which is why, even though evilness itself is stupid too, on top of playing stupid too, that "Never attribute to evilness, what you can attribute to stupidity." meme is the wrong way around.)
    What could be, and what actually is, due to them, is what pains me.

  21. Re:Who is actually using smart speakers? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    That certainly would make moderation a lot more fair, but you can just get used to it. Save your jokes until you've got a really funny one. I have lost over a dozen karma on a single post due to a mod war involving lots of funny mods, but it's all just part of the game.

    You do know Slashdot is just a MMORPG, don't you?

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  22. Trusted Facebook by sdinfoserv · · Score: 1

    And we completely trust FB not to gather all information it can about our private lives and personal conversations in our homes and not sell that to marketeers.
    Never mind Zuck lied before congress about shadow profiles.

  23. Equifax by nwaack · · Score: 1

    Maybe Equifax will make a smart speaker/camera next!

  24. I feel like stirring up shit. by pecosdave · · Score: 1
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  25. Hey, whipslash, you're missing out! by sootman · · Score: 1

    First Amazon, now Facebook... I'm anxiously awaiting the announcement of a Slashdot smart cam that I can buy.

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