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Twitter and Salesforce CEOs Spat Over Who is Helping the Homeless More (theguardian.com)
The CEOs of two of the world's most prominent tech companies got into an online spat on Friday over who was doing the most to address homelessness. From a report: Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey were tweeting at each other about a proposed tax on high-earning San Francisco businesses. It would redirect millions of dollars to help thousands of people who live on the streets, including outside the headquarters of both companies. Benioff tweeted that he was in favor of the tax. Dorsey tweeted that he was not -- prompting a displeased response. "Hi Jack. Thanks for the feedback," Benioff quipped. "Which homeless programs in our city are you supporting? Can you tell me what Twitter and Square & you are in for & at what financial levels? How much have you given to heading home our $37M initiative to get every homeless child off the streets?"
Benioff was referring to an initiative he is spearheading for homeless families. In May he announced that he and his wife would match a $1.5m donation from his company's philanthropic arm. In a second tweet, he alleged that Dorsey had failed to contribute to the city's homeless programs, public hospitals and public schools, despite earning billions and receiving a tax break to relocate in a deprived part of town. Dorsey did not respond.
Benioff was referring to an initiative he is spearheading for homeless families. In May he announced that he and his wife would match a $1.5m donation from his company's philanthropic arm. In a second tweet, he alleged that Dorsey had failed to contribute to the city's homeless programs, public hospitals and public schools, despite earning billions and receiving a tax break to relocate in a deprived part of town. Dorsey did not respond.
By making the entire city their toilet
The literal definition. Look at how good I am are you that good????
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if you write software you should hate salesforce, because they hate you.
It doesn't really matter how much money you throw at something if what you're doing with it doesn't actually help. Perhaps some of these private charities that they are donating to are doing something useful, but San Francisco's approach in general doesn't seem to be at all effective. They were just named the poop capital of the U.S. this last week.
Also, I generally think people that brag about charity are kind of asshole glory hounds. It's a good thing to do, but you don't need to tell everyone else how great you are, especially if it devolves into a public fight like this. Now they both look like jackasses even for all the good that they're doing.
Very gay fake news about a gay city from a fake editor who is gay.
has more to with morality, morale, mental disease, and overly restrictive regulations regarding living accommodations than it does with money redistribution.
Wake us all up if somebody ever solves the problem for real.
single payer healthcare with medical services and bringing back mental institutions. Also legalize drugs, all drugs, and treat hard drug addiction as a medical issue like they do in the Netherlands. Finally do a federal housing guarantee. Based on the number of vacant properties homelessness shouldn't exist.
Seriously folks, we know damn well what the solution to this problem is. Of couse, while doing the above works it would also cost a _hell_ of a lot more than the paltry sums being tossed around and wouldn't boost anybody's ego...
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Regardless of the virtues of the Salesforce CEO for better or worse, I suspect Twitter feels benevolent enough by tweeting about problem. #homelessnomore .
There are too many twitter and social media âoeactivistsâ who donâ(TM)t actually contribute anything meaningful on a consistent basis to real world problems. They donate a dollar and feel like theyâ(TM)ve changed the world and tweet the heck out of it, followed by hours of bashing people. Thatâ(TM)s their alleged volunteer time. So pitiful.
Meanwhile Judge Kavanaugh is out there feeding the homeless.
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Uh... I think in this case sure. Yeah. I wish there was more of a status symbol to help people in unfortunate situations.
If you feel it could be used else where get rich and put your money where your mouth is.
...if there's ANYTHING we could encourage businesses to COMPETE and measure their virtual dicks by, it should be HELPING PEOPLE.
And not feel good "we trained people to stop being racist" with no scientific verified results. I mean REAL people being REALLY helped. Raw stats. Number of people given free /affordable homes. Number of people given jobs and highschool/college education. FREE MENTAL HEALTH for the homeless.
If anything we should be encouraging through "Slacktivsm" and outrage culture, it's actually demanding companies help the homeless with their billions in profits.
Well, I got rich and put hot women mouths where my dick is. More fun that way.
The CEOs of two of the world's most prominent tech companies
Twitter and Salesforce wouldn't be in my top 10 or 100 of "prominent" tech companies.
Hell, neither of them are really tech companies. They're a micro blog company and a service company. They just happen to use computers.
You may as well call Domino's a tech company because they have that Pizza Tracker thing on their site / app / Facebook.
It sounds like it's all coming from Benioff's side, and Dorsey hasn't risen to the bait. So in what sense is this a "spat"?
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Neither one of you are helping them. People who can take responsibility for themselves need a steady job they can keep -- handouts and programs are only helpful temporarily, on the margins. People who can't take responsibility for themselves can't really be helped, and all your handouts are doing is enabling their personal self-destructive behavior to continue.
1) People who can't afford the prices of current housing.
2) People who wouldn't live anywhere provided to them due to mental health/substance abuse issues. Not that shelters are that much better than a cardboard box beneath an underpass.
You do not gain any credit if your tax dollars/philanthropic efforts close the local/state medical efforts to help the second category.
Talk/twitters are cheap. put your money where your mouth is.
Helping people!? America is a Capitalistic country. Haven't you been watching the news? Socialism is the devil! Social Security and Medicaid has to be destroyed to make America great again! Why do you hate America?
The lunatic values of the left have caused these issues. Start living with conservative values and your problems go away. Its a very simple formula.
Read about "reserve army of labor" (then kill yourself) retard.
how about providing bathrooms the homeless can use with water to clean themselves instead of them having to crap on the streets
By and large the only "help" that should be offered is getting these people a job and perhaps substance abuse treatment if they are unfit for a job for that reason. Handouts will just create more homeless people. See e.g. Seattle.
no wonder people around the world think california is fucked.
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A person gets into a top US university. With loans. Maybe a full scholarship. Was it their parents wealth?
After years of study and all the money used to get a great education they graduate and find a great job.
Only to find their days are spent walking around waste and trash.
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the Netherlands is doing exactly what I proposed and doing just fine. Are they just wealthy than us? Better with money?
Also, as for Austerity, go ask Kansas how that's working out for them.
You're right about one thing, the rich will, given a chance, pit us against each other in a race to the bottom. That's why it has to be done at a national level. Europe realized that, and it's why they formed the EU. Britain's aristocracy also realized that, and it's why they spent a fortune getting their people to vote for Brexit.
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It's worse. They find themselves liking that filth and starts to justifying living in it. Maybe another few years from now they'll wax nostalgic about 2 girls 1 cup.
They both lose money but the homeless will win no matter who comes out on top.
After tax exemptions, tax cuts and other kickbacks, corporations should pay more tax: But that does not mean they are helping the homeless, even indirectly.
You put hot women's mouths in your dad's ass?
reserves. And we have more farm land than anyone. And two weak neighbors we can push around. And I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but damn I'm sick of this right wing Rush Limbaugh bullshit showing up everywhere.
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offering free one-way trips to Hawaii worked pretty well for a while.
That's what Oregon is doing to their homeless: offering a one-way trip to Seattle. :-)
Well, more public toilets and portloos would help. Many used to be underground - but closed because the needed cleaners who cost $$$.
Philippines had a solution - Concrete drainage pipes to sleep in with cardboard box end stoppers, and convert a few basketball courts to outdoor showers/Facilities.
Easy solutions.
If you gave 37M out of your own pocket directly to the "cause" and it didn't "fix" the problem, how would giving less through government agencies do?
The homeless problem in SF is a governance problem, not a financial issue, SF is one of the richest city governments in the world. The problem is thus not money but its policy.
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I suppose it never occurred to these internet fat cats like Benioff and Dorsey but the homeless condition in SF has been exasperated by people like them that have made tons of money and driven up the cost of housing to unaffordable levels. Their giant egos (evidenced by Benioff's need to tell everyone about how much he has done for charity) have created an arms race for the biggest house, swankiest office, you name it. All at the expense of everyday working people that can no longer afford to live there.
"In May he announced that he and his wife would match a $1.5m donation from his company's philanthropic arm." - Mighty white of you there, Marc. Based on a percentage of his net worth that is the equivalent of you or I donating about $100. A nice gesture to be sure but it's not really going to make much of a change. And let's not forget the tax break that the donation brings. A tax break that you and I - Mr. and Ms. Taxpayer - are footing the bill for. No, the real reason is to appear to be concerned while stroking his massive ego. If he really cared why not just give the money anonymously? Whether the donation actually helps the plight of these people is of little consequence.
Ego stroked - check. Photo opp - check. Opportunity to take a cheap shot at a competitor - check. Building political capital for future favors that benefit him personally - check.
Yes, it looks like everyone wins. Everyone except the homeless people.
I feel compelled to post this
Seriously, are you some kind of Russian troll bot AI that just strings together crap that's meant to get a rise out of Americans?
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Your measured analysis of the human condition is breathtaking! Thank you for the enlightenment, I feel I truly understand things now.
Dorsey is sure damn good at censorship. Not so good at helping kids living on the street. But that's what you can expect from a damn censor.