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Chinese Phone Maker Huawei Launches Mate 20 Pro Featuring In-Screen Fingerprint Sensor, Two-Way Wireless Charging, 3 Rear Cameras and 4,200mAh Battery (theguardian.com)

Huawei's new Mate 20 Pro has a massive screen, three cameras on the back and a fingerprint scanner embedded in the display. From a report: The new top-end phone from the Chinese firm aims to secure its place at the top of the market alongside Samsung, having recently beaten Apple to become the second-largest smartphone manufacturer in August. The Mate 20 Pro follows Huawei's tried and trusted format for its Mate series: a huge 6.39in QHD+ OLED screen, big 4,200mAh battery and powerful new Huawei Kirin 980 processor -- Huawei's first to be produced at 7 nanometres, matching Apple's latest A12 chip in the 2018 iPhones.

New for this year is an infrared 3D facial recognition system, similar to that used by Apple for its Face ID in the iPhone XS, and one of the first fingerprint scanners embedded in the screen that is widely available in the UK, removing the need for a fingerprint scanner on the back or a chin on the front. The Mate 20 Pro is water resistant to IP68 standards and has a sleek new design reminiscent of Samsung's S-series phones, with curved glass on the front and back. The back also has an new pattern etched into the glass, which is smooth to the touch but ridged when running your nail over it.

On the back is a new version of Huawei's award-winning triple camera system using a 40-megapixel standard camera, an 8-megapixel telephoto camera with a 3x optical zoom and new for this year is a 20-megapixel ultra-wide angle camera, replacing the monochrome sensor used on the P20 Pro.
The Mate 20 Pro runs EMUI 9, which is based on Android 9 Pie. The variant with 6GB of RAM and 128GB of storage is available for 899 Euro starting today.

68 comments

  1. Are Intel incompetent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Mate 20 Pro [features a] powerful new Huawei Kirin 980 processor -- Huawei's first to be produced at 7 nanometres, matching Apple's latest A12 chip in the 2018 iPhones.

    If AMD, Apple and Huawei are able to get their CPU/GPU manufactured at 7 nanometres, what is Intel's problem?

    1. Re:Are Intel incompetent? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Market demand.
      Intel never got into the Mobile Device market. So chances are the 7nm intel chip currently may not perform as well as their 9nm chips and being that they are selling for Servers, Desktops and Laptops, they can afford to have their chips a bit bigger, use more power. But still perform faster.

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  2. About huawei by Luckyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fun part I recently ran into with Huawei phone that friend was using. You can't install VLC on them any more through play store. You have to get APK package from elsewhere.

    Apparently, Huawei has some out of spec handling of battery management that interferes with many apps, and VLC folks just had enough. So keep that in mind if you want to get one:

    https://www.androidcentral.com...

  3. Me wikey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    welly match!!!!!!!!!

  4. Re:Don't care. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL. All this means is you now have BOTH spying on you, nice job.

  5. Expensive by olsmeister · · Score: 2

    Why not just buy a Pixel 3? If you're going to be spied on, it may as well be by an American company.

    1. Re:Expensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. China is the future. The West is weak and failing fast.
       
      You need to get with the program.

    2. Re:Expensive by MrMr · · Score: 1

      I recommend checking if the country you plan to use the phone in has an extradition treaty with the US or China. As far as I can see the odds are 100 to 40. Not great in either case.

    3. Re: Expensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The exact same crap was trotted out about Japan in the 80s. Didnt haopen either.

    4. Re: Expensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think China is like Japan? lol.

    5. Re: Expensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they are more pussy.

    6. Re: Expensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think China is like Japan? lol.

      LOL! Nope. The Japanese are a crap ton brighter!

    7. Re:Expensive by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

      Huawei's Mate 20 Pro vs Pixel 3: Micro-SD, 50% more Ram (6GB), ~50% larger battery; 40W wired charging.
      General Cons: Still missing aux-jack, limited 2G|CDMA radio, $1000+ for a phone.

  6. Re:Don't care. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're out of your damned mind. If it blew me I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

  7. 2-way wireless charging by rossdee · · Score: 1

    "2-way wireless charging"So in addition to being able to charge you phone from your car, you can also charge up your cars battery from your phone.

    While this sounds like a good feature in the winter especially, the capacity 4,200 mAh won't make a lot of difference in trying to start you car

    1. Re:2-way wireless charging by edtice1559 · · Score: 1

      This will probably get moderated funny, but I really have no idea what they mean by two-way wireless charging and would love to know.

    2. Re:2-way wireless charging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No no, you use the phone and the signals escape wirelessly and are picked up by the Chi-Com authorities who then have you whisked away to a secret prison, after months of which you are charged with something. Two-way wireless charging.

    3. Re:2-way wireless charging by Mascot · · Score: 4, Informative

      I base this guess off of nothing but an image and a headline that said something like "friend charging" that I didn't click on, but it might be the ability to charge one phone with another. So if you have 80% battery and your friend's phone is about to die, you can put them on top of one another and yours can charge his.

    4. Re:2-way wireless charging by Ksevio · · Score: 2

      Yep, you wouldn't know if from the article (which doesn't mention it at all) but that's exactly what it does (if you enable the option)

    5. Re:2-way wireless charging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really have no idea what they mean by two-way wireless charging and would love to know

      Seemed obvious to me.
      One way charging is what we had/have: Charger can charge the phone.
      Two way would have the phone able to charge something else, like another phone or your watch or wireless headphones (assuming any of them support that charging standard). Seems to make perfect sense, and I wouldn't really want to start using wireless headphones regularly without such a feature (no, I don't want to carry around a bulky charging case).

    6. Re:2-way wireless charging by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      So if you have 80% battery and your friend's phone is about to die, you can put them on top of one another and yours can charge his.

      No, no I can't. If he can't be trusted to keep his phone charged, he can't be trusted period. I'm not going to give him my precious life energy.

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    7. Re:2-way wireless charging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... you can put them on top of one another and yours can charge his.

      Same position works for me too.

    8. Re:2-way wireless charging by LoneBoco · · Score: 1

      In our bleak bluetooth earbud future, two-way wireless charging is a pretty great idea. I hope other, non-spyware phones adopt this idea.

    9. Re:2-way wireless charging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like in Toe Jam & Earl.

    10. Re:2-way wireless charging by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 0

      I base this guess off of nothing but an image and a headline that said something like "friend charging" that I didn't click on, but it might be the ability to charge one phone with another. So if you have 80% battery and your friend's phone is about to die, you can put them on top of one another and yours can charge his.

      Reminds me of the term "Charging Up", as used on the Hulu series "Future Man"...

      Caution: DEFINITELY NSFW:

      https://www.reddit.com/r/telev...

  8. IP68 is great by edtice1559 · · Score: 1

    I might actually consider this or one of the Samsung competitors. I don't go hiking/canoeing all that often but when I do, carrying a phone is PITA. And I feel compelled to carry one for emergency situations. Also at the water park with my kid. Although I may still go with a cheaper GSM watch that can receive texts and make a 911 call in an emergency. It means a higher monthly fee. But even with the IP68 rating, I'm still scared to submerge an expensive device.

    1. Re:IP68 is great by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      I might actually consider this or one of the Samsung competitors. I don't go hiking/canoeing all that often but when I do, carrying a phone is PITA. And I feel compelled to carry one for emergency situations. Also at the water park with my kid. Although I may still go with a cheaper GSM watch that can receive texts and make a 911 call in an emergency. It means a higher monthly fee. But even with the IP68 rating, I'm still scared to submerge an expensive device.

      You could just get one of these. and keep your current phone. Not just waterproof, but floats, and the touch screen & camera still work.

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    2. Re:IP68 is great by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      I might actually consider this or one of the Samsung competitors. I don't go hiking/canoeing all that often but when I do, carrying a phone is PITA. And I feel compelled to carry one for emergency situations. Also at the water park with my kid. Although I may still go with a cheaper GSM watch that can receive texts and make a 911 call in an emergency. It means a higher monthly fee. But even with the IP68 rating, I'm still scared to submerge an expensive device.

      Why not just buy a $10 waterproof bag for your phone? You can even keep using your phone (touchscreen/camera/etc, not sure about able to hear calls) while it's in the bag. Might not be completely waterproof if you are going to be spending significant time submerged in the water, but I used one without issue climbing Dunn's River Falls.

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    3. Re:IP68 is great by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Lil' Wayne was all about that a few years ago...

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    4. Re:IP68 is great by sexconker · · Score: 1

      I don't go hiking/canoeing all that often but when I do, carrying a phone is PITA. And I feel compelled to carry one for emergency situations.

      Ever hear of Ziploc bags?

    5. Re:IP68 is great by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      If I were you, I'd consider a Samsung (unless you do just want to get a waterproof bag).

      Huawei products have been caught actively spying on Americans and calling home via their products.

      As a result, our military will not use Huawei products at all and Huawei was banned from investing in / building 5G infrastructure in the United States and other countries, and the US is trying to get Canada to change its mind about allowing them up there.

      Some ZTE products were also found to be doing this. As a result, I replaced my ZTE and I won't buy them or Huawei anymore.

  9. And a partridge in a pear tree.... by phayes · · Score: 0

    ...

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  10. SO YOU DIDN'T SAY THIS? cid=57354060 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Microplastics (referenced correctly by name in this one) are harmless. They are biologically inert and mechanically harmless. They're so small, they're able to travel through the cell walls, and as a result, have no meaningful mechanical impact as far as we know." -Luckyo https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12642660&cid=57354060

    It's weird when you get caught lying by your own words. Well, it's weird when anyone except Trump does it. We expect that level of stupid denial from him.

    What's your excuse?

  11. 40 mpix camera? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lots of sensor noise, JPEG compression, detail lost to noise reduction, poor flare control, poor low light performance, etc, but at least you can zoom in far enough to see this on a small mobile screen. What a joke.

  12. Re:Don't care. by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So you have a Chinese phone with hardware made to spy on you, hooked to an American Cell Service which will spy on you. Installed with Google Android where Google will spy on you.

    Hopefully, like most of us, are not important enough for such places to really care about your data, and will probably just be deleted, except for Googles targeted ads.

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  13. Re:SO YOU DIDN'T SAY THIS? cid=57354060 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You seem to lack basic comprehension skills. He wasn't denying ever saying it.

  14. Camera behind screen by ljw1004 · · Score: 2

    I hope manufacturers will start putting front-facing cameras behind the screen, roughly in the center of the phone or 2/3 of the way up. That way when (1) in video calls we'll be able to look at the people we're speaking with and they'll see our eyes actually looking at them, and (2) when we take selfie photos and are checking out how we look, our eyes will be looking at the camera.

    I read about an Apple patent for this back in 2009 but it doesn't look like there's been any development since then. https://appleinsider.com/artic...

  15. Re:SO YOU DIDN'T SAY THIS? cid=57354060 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually he did on another thread and he tried to twist like a bitch out of his own words here also. He's a troll on environmental stories on this site pretending to be a doctor of science.

    I'm sorry you lack basic functional testicles or the brain to know how they're supposed to work, but he did say this and can't admit it.

  16. Re:SO YOU DIDN'T SAY THIS? cid=57354060 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gotta say, I love catching lying faggots pretending to be scientists on topics they obviously know nothing about, posing as authorities. Luckyo's Mom, your son is a dishonest cunt in the recent Trump tradition.

    (Choke on some plastic kiddo.)

  17. And... it uses a proprietary storage card by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2
    Not mentioned in TFA or TFS, but mentioned here:

    The new handsets are the first to take NM Card, a Huawei-made design that offers the capacity and performance of microSD in a card the size of a Nano SIM.

    The problem, you might have surmised, is that you're buying what's currently a vendor-exclusive technology. You can't just run to any store and pick up an NM Card when your built-in storage fills up. It's unclear how Huawei will price these cards, for that matter. And however reasonable the price might be, you're likely locking yourself into using Huawei phones if you want to use that extra storage with any future phones.

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    1. Re:And... it uses a proprietary storage card by mentil · · Score: 1

      nano SIM isn't that much smaller than microSD, and SD cards aren't known for mind-blowing performance. Samsung is the only one using UFS AFAIK but that's far faster and not proprietary.

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  18. Dunk new phone by crow · · Score: 1

    The first thing to do when getting a new allegedly waterproof phone is to test it by putting it in a large cup full of water for five minutes. If there are any obvious faults, it will fail under warranty before you transfer everything over and personalize it. Samsung once had a sport version of their phone that failed in water, and they decided to replace them under warranty when people complained rather than recall them, so lots of people lost data just so Samsung could avoid replacing the ones that didn't happen to get wet.

    It's trust but verify.

  19. Three Cameras ?! by necro81 · · Score: 2
    1. Re:Three Cameras ?! by gander666 · · Score: 1

      Shit, and me without mod points...

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    2. Re:Three Cameras ?! by mentil · · Score: 1

      Was going to post this if noone else did.

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  20. Two-way Wireless Charging — Back to back? by hackel · · Score: 1

    So what exactly is two-way wireless charging? To me, that means placing two phones back-to-back and using one to charge another. But this also seems really stupid. Or does it mean you can also charge by placing the phone face-down? Either way, a bizarre feature.

  21. 1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just like any other smartphone, you have a device that:
    - Tracks your location at all times (via cell tower pins)
    - Contains a camera without hardware off switch
    - Contains a microphone without hardware off switch
    - Contains your photo
    - Fingerprint collection via scanner

    Now all they need is the ability of government powers to say for our safety, whenever you hear a national alert, you need to put your fingers on the phone to scan your fingerprints, so that it will alert your family members that you're safe.

    Because security.
    If you don't do it, you're a threat.

  22. Another no headphone jack by AbRASiON · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sorry, don't subscribe to the arguments supporting the ability to work around this design flaw.

    It's not hard to keep, it's really not ruining phones keeping it. I will not purchase a phone without it.

    Period

    1. Re:Another no headphone jack by westlake · · Score: 1

      It's not hard to keep, it's really not ruining phones keeping it. I will not purchase a phone without it.

      The geek's stubborn rear-guard resistance not withstanding, I'm afraid the headphone jack is going the way of the parallel port and the Dodo. It's just one more cable and one more connector that no one wants to bother with any more.

    2. Re:Another no headphone jack by AbRASiON · · Score: 2

      It certainly seems that way. Yet it's one of the few international standards that is everywhere.

      I bet I could buy a set of basic headphones in the middle of Africa, South America, middle East, etc.

      I don't need a DAC built into my headphones. It's crazy people are considering ditching this and I think it's entirely to copy Apple. If they didn't do it and now set the standard "all 'modern' phones have no headphone jack, ewww" then we wouldn't be taking about it.

      Ridiculous.

  23. Re: Don't care. by Colourspace · · Score: 0

    I'm not Creimer though, my tits only come down to my knees!

  24. Re:About this Luckyo moron... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You forgot to mention that I'm also a nazi, a jew, a Trump supporter and I eat babies and rape dogs.

    Or the other way around. I can't remember what you anti-science crazies use as slurs nowadays.

    The other way around...? So you're a jewish puppy who rapes nazis and eats Trump supporters? neat!

  25. Re:Don't care. by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

    So you have a Chinese phone with hardware made to spy on you, hooked to an American Cell Service which will spy on you. Installed with Google Android where Google will spy on you.

    Hopefully, like most of us, are not important enough for such places to really care about your data, and will probably just be deleted, except for Googles targeted ads.

    Perfect analysis!

  26. Bootloader. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You cannot make a Huawei phone truly yours.

  27. Re:Don't care. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you have a Chinese phone with hardware made to spy on you, hooked to an American Cell Service which will spy on you. Installed with Google Android where Google will spy on you...

    Combined with state of the art, ever evolving cloud based artificial intelligence, incredibly skilled and powerful companies (and countries) that can, on average, use this information to manipulate you into buying whatever they want.

    soda,
    vitamins,
    cars,
    phones,
    elections

    Hacking computers is now not nearly as profitable as hacking the people. I just hope people adapt and get better and seeing beyond the bullshit.

  28. Nice assumption. by thesupraman · · Score: 1

    Who on earth said they were American?

    I, for one, am not, and I don't particularly want either super power spying on me, but if I had to choose one... It would be a tough call.
    The Chinese seems to drone-kill one hell of a lot less foreign nationals for example.

  29. Re:SO YOU DIDN'T SAY THIS? cid=57354060 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trying to offend someone by calling them a "faggot" actually says more about you than about your target

  30. Re:About this Luckyo moron... by Luckyo · · Score: 1

    I like your version, so we'll go with it.

  31. Awesome! by jtgd · · Score: 1

    "Two-way charging"? You mean I can take the massive power in the phone's battery and send that out to the grid, like with solar? Way cool.

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