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WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange Sues Ecuador For 'Violating His Rights' (sky.com)

Julian Assange is suing Ecuador's government for violating his "fundamental rights and freedoms," despite the fact he is still being sheltered in the country's UK embassy. From a report: It comes after Ecuador cut off communications for Mr Assange, who has been living inside the country's London embassy for more than six years. Baltasar Garzon, a lawyer for WikiLeaks, has arrived in Ecuador to launch the case, which is expected to be heard next week in a domestic court. WikiLeaks claims Mr Assange's access to the outside world has been "summarily cut off" and says Ecuador has threatened to remove the protection he has had since being given political asylum. The site said Ecuador's government has refused to allow a visit by Human Rights Watch general counsel Dinah PoKempner and prevented several meetings with Mr Assange's lawyers. A statement said: "Ecuador's measures against Julian Assange have been widely condemned by the human rights community."

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  1. Sue him back over treatment of his cat by jfdavis668 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ecuador should sue him back over the way he is mistreating his cat.

    1. Re:Sue him back over treatment of his cat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Assange has to keep his distance to avoid being accused of cat rape.

    2. Re:Sue him back over treatment of his cat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      #MeowToo

    3. Re:Sue him back over treatment of his cat by whoever57 · · Score: 2

      Equador should sue the producers of the awful comedy Asylum for crimes against humanity.

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    4. Re:Sue him back over treatment of his cat by ishmaelflood · · Score: 1

      Come on mods, surely one of you has a spare point to give to a good joke.

  2. It's stupid by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At this point it's unlikely he would be killed. He's now effectively been locked up. Why not just go to court and get it over with? He basically imprisoned himself and may end up still having to serve time if he leaves. What's the point?

    1. Re:It's stupid by Iamthecheese · · Score: 1

      The other imprisonment will be in a little concrete sensory deprivation box.

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    2. Re:It's stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What's the point?

      The point is that he can't be wrong. If he goes to Swedish court, gets fined (or even a couple years in jail) and doesn't "disappear", then that would suggest his panic was unjustified paranoia. Assange has built his life and social image on the assumption that the USA (among a long list) sees him as too dangerous to ignore, but that he's been outsmarting everyone. If he submits to authority (already a big no-no in his view) and they do not do anything beyond their obligations according to the law of the nation, that proves Assange a liar.

      The most effective thing any government can do to diminish Assange's influence is to treat him like they would anyone else. His own hyperbole will do the rest.

    3. Re:It's stupid by HarrySquatter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So his solution is to be annoying and to antagonize the people giving him sanctuary? Yeah, that sounds like a smart move...

    4. Re:It's stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In Sweden?! Swedish prisons are better than most hotels, and the average sentence for 'rape' is less than 26 months.
      He would have had better treatment and been free long ago if he had just kept his bail in the first place.

    5. Re:It's stupid by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      ADX Florence

    6. Re:It's stupid by ole_timer · · Score: 1

      it's called a extradition treaty

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    7. Re:It's stupid by Megol · · Score: 2

      No there were no such plans. Getting an extradition from Sweden would prove difficult anyway.

    8. Re:It's stupid by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2

      There is even a cliche for this:

      Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

    9. Re:It's stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      He pissed his principles down the drain the minute he became partisan and started working for the Russia, that turned him from whistleblower to foreign agent.

      As a foreign agent, trapped in a foreign country, he now needs to accept the consequences.

      At this point, Assange is about the least unprincipled person out there. His whole "thing" was leaking against America because of it's human rights abuses in Iraq, Afghanistan et. al. That was a reasonable thing to argue for, until he decided to become a puppet of Russia who is doing the EXACT same things in Syria that he was bitching about the US for in Iraq/Afghanistan. Furthermore, Russia routinely violates human rights, from murdering journalists, to beating people for being gay, to jailing opposition politicians, to carrying out nuclear and chemical assassinations on foreign soil.

      If he had principles, he'd be leaking about that shit, because the US has largely withdrawn from the world stage under Trump exactly as Assange wanted, so the idea that it's the great evil spreading it's tentacles no longer applies, that title firmly now belongs to Russia, so why isn't he leaking about that other than the fact he takes money from the Russian state for his RT show and such?

      Principled people don't take hush money to keep quiet about the causes they profess to care about.

    10. Re:It's stupid by ilguido · · Score: 1

      The point is that he can't be wrong. If he goes to Swedish court, gets fined (or even a couple years in jail) and doesn't "disappear", then that would suggest his panic was unjustified paranoia. [...]

      Not really. He is no more investigated in Sweden, so going to a Swedish court now is out of question (I think that they could reopen the investigation, but that is not the case right now). However, in the UK there is a warrant for his arrest, for skipping bail when the UK wanted to have him extradite to Sweden. So his "paranoia" is not completely unjustified, after all he is officially wanted by the UK, because Sweden investigated him without a charge. It is bit too much for an alleged improper sexual behaviour.

    11. Re:It's stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      He's in the Ecuador embassy in London. He was "hunted" there by the the British police for skipping a court date related to his sexual misconduct charges in Sweden.

      Do any of you zealots bother to learn anything?

    12. Re:It's stupid by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      No he wouldn't. It's far easier to extradite someone to the US from the UK than from Sweden, and nobody was even trying the former.

      Plus, you know, the US would benefit far more having a critic imprisoned for rape with a neutral country taking "credit" for that, than have a peaceful critic imprisoned without trial in the US for a crime that doesn't apply to any jurisdiction he might have committed it in.

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    13. Re: It's stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is correct.
      The UK have no option but to arrest him should he step out of the embassy. The reason being is that if they failed to it would send a message that you can escape justice by breaking bail.

      Not a country in the world will give the leeway to break bail and walk away.

    14. Re:It's stupid by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, that was done by Saudi Arabia, not Sweden. Easy to confuse them, I know, one's a liberal democracy with no substantial record of abusing human rights, the other a theocratic dictatorship that chops the hands off people for stealing apples. I mean, they're almost the same when you put it like that, but no, they're not actually the same.

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    15. Re:It's stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There have been such cases before when Sweden (my home) has extradited people to countries on dubious warrants and where the accused have subsequently suffered and even been killed. There is no reason to think Sweden would have offered him any particular protection from a US extradition warrant.

      However, since it has been several years since Sweden dropped the investigation into sexual misconduct by him, there is no longer any outstanding warrant to extradite him from the UK to Sweden. There is, however, the crime of breach of bail conditions and so contempt of court, for which he is still wanted in the UK. The UK would extradite him in a heartbeat if the US presented a warrant and promised not to execute him. After Britain leaves the EU that latter requirement would no longer be in effect.

    16. Re:It's stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes and the "hunted" you speak of was them not looking for him at all, until he didn't turn up at court. No one was looking for him until after he was actually holed up there.

      These fantasy squads people have hunting him down, making him mysteriously disappear between the UK and Sweden etc. are all hopelessly impotent because there was a gap of a couple of year where everyone knew where he was, not under any sort of protection and could have simply been seized by these bad actors.

    17. Re:It's stupid by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The point is to stand up for principles.

      That's fine but Ecuador is not doing anything wrong here. If he wants to meet these people is he free to leave the embassy and meet them outside. Being a house guest does not mean you automatically get to invite whomever you want into the house as well. He should be grateful that Ecuador is sheltering him and frankly they deserve some sort of medal for sheltering this ungrateful git from what probably would be significant violation of his human rights.

    18. Re:It's stupid by jeff4747 · · Score: 2

      No, he would have been extradited to the US.

      For what? He hasn't broken any US laws. If you do not have a security clearance, it is legal to publish classified information that is leaked to you.

      Also, the UK and US are extremely close allies with nearly-identical legal systems. It would be far, far, easier to extradite Assange from the UK.

    19. Re:It's stupid by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      Why else would they try to extradite someone for something (retroactive rape) that isn't even a crime in the UK?

      Because extradition is based on the laws of the country seeking extradition, not the one where the person is currently located. In other words, it does not matter if it is legal in the UK.

      Also, it would be better described as "rape by lying to get consent".

      Also, Assange hasn't broken any US laws. It is legal to publish classified information that is leaked to you as long as you do not have a security clearance. That's why lots of news organizations in the US are able to publish classified information that is leaked to them.

    20. Re:It's stupid by jeff4747 · · Score: 2

      Well other than being plainly false, common root sure, but massively diverged in many many aspects, what has closeness of the systems got to do with if extradition is possible?

      Take a look at the complications of extraditing him to Sweden. The UK's High Court had to decide that the particular step in Swedish laws (interview suspect just prior to arrest) is the same as a post-arrest interview in the UK and thus it was appropriate to extradite.

      The "common root" means very similar pre-trial procedures for arrest, interview and incarceration before trial, which makes extradition simpler.

    21. Re:It's stupid by zedaroca · · Score: 1

      Letter from US House Representatives to President Moreno
      That's a top Democrat and a Republican from the House of Representatives Committee on foreign Affairs telling Ecuador's president that Assange is a dangerous criminal that should be stripped from citizenship and handed over. Strong arming the other country, meddling with their internal affairs (human rights respect). Three days ago.
      TFA is about JA suing over censorship in a "free" country after USA's vice-president visited said country.

      How can such a stupid post, so far removed from reality, be modded insightful? Is this place filled with government crooks?

    22. Re: It's stupid by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Do not confuse swedish law for English or American law. In Sweden. You are not charged in absentia(without bieng present).

      So in Sweden you can't be charged until brought before a judge. And they can't bring you in front of a judge for one thing and then try to charge you with something else.

      So of course he wasn't charged in Sweden legally they can't until he stood in front of a judge.

      That said if he went there he would be free on 15 minutes. As they don't want to charge him but can't finally drop it until he shows up. That is also a legal requirement.

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    23. Re: It's stupid by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      Absent charges being brought and an extradition requested (which will result in Assange remaining in jail pending the outcome, which could take years), he'll be deported to either Australia (his native country) or Ecuador (where he was provided citizenship).

      Whatever happens, no non-citizenship country will ever grant him entry and no judge will ever again grant bail.

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    24. Re: It's stupid by HarrySquatter · · Score: 1

      Except Swedish prosecutors already dropped the charges. Did so back in 2017.

    25. Re: It's stupid by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      Sweden hasn't charged him with anything they dropped the case.

      Swedish law is not UK law. Swedish law requires interviewing the suspect before filing charges. Since Assange has refused this interview, he can't be charged.

      The UK High Court ruled that the Swedish case is at the point where Assange would have been charged in the UK system, which is why the UK was willing to extradite.

      Also, two of the cases has been dropped. There were originally three. There is now one remaining case.

      The UK wants him for jumping bail.

      And what's the penalty for that? Oh, the penalty is you're held in jail until the case is resolved. Resolution is to ship him to Sweden.

    26. Re:It's stupid by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps Ecuador deserves a medal, or perhaps they just suspected he had some dirt on corruption in their government which they wanted to ensure he wouldn't release.

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    27. Re:It's stupid by jeremyp · · Score: 2

      Np this is not true. If what he did were legal in the UK, he would not be extradited to Sweden. However, the British court ruled that what he was accused of would be considered a crime in the UK which is why he is holed up in the Ecuador Embassy instead of living in freedom.

      Frankly, I think he did the rape. If you are trying to avoid extradition to the USA, Sweden is a better place to be than Britain.

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    28. Re:It's stupid by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      No he wasn't. If he was then the first prosecutor would not have let Assange leave the country and travel to the UK in the first place. If the US really wanted him they would have picked him off the streets in the middle of the night as they have done with the other gitmo residents.

    29. Re:It's stupid by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      There have been exactly one such case involving two Egyptians. None of which where killed but tortured. They where detained unlawfully because the US managed to convince the then foreign minister (Anna Lind) that these two where terrorists and that the US had evidence that they where plotting to do terrorist acts in Sweden.

      It was also all done in secret and once it was discovered it was a major political incident and no one involved holds any office today.

    30. Re:It's stupid by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      That's what he claims. Whether this is true or not has not been shown. By staying within the embassy we can only theorize. Maintaining a victim status however ensures he stays in the news.

    31. Re:It's stupid by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      By staying inside the consulate that conspiracy theory can remain alive and active. It may turn out here's merely a prisoner of his own paranoia.

    32. Re:It's stupid by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      It's absurd to think that this would happen. Most conspiracy theories live on the fact that such things happen all the time in secret and that we don't know about it because the government covers this up. If this happened publicly it would simultaneously both confirm and refute the conspiracy theories, causing the universe to wink out of existence.

    33. Re:It's stupid by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Which government? The US government could do this with anyone and yet either has not done this or has only done this secretly. If the government has done this secretly then they would logically want to maintain this secrecy. So why is Assange the only person that they would disappear publicly? The most damage the US government could to do Assange and Wikileaks is to do nothing and prove him to be merely paranoid.

      On the otherhand, possibly due to grammar, it seems like say "government" as if it were a single world wide government. Hopefully you're not that crazy.

      As for the Saudis, note that they are going to face a big economic hit for this fiasco in Turkey, even though everyone in the world already knows that the Saudis are rubbish at civil rights already. If the US did the same thing it would be a disaster to the US. No sane government would attempt this sort of disappearance merely to send a message (and yes, the Saudis are insane, or inept, or both).

    34. Re:It's stupid by phayes · · Score: 1

      Well, I still have principals whatever becomes of Assange.

      Assange can avoid waiting in jail by promising to respect the judgement of the court system of that country and not flee from justice if those courts decide that he needs to face justice in Sweden for acts that constitute rape. Assange's forswearing and bail jumping doesn't affect my principals.

      Assange can also take advantage of yet another credulous young girl by raping her while she is sleeping and that won't affect my principals either.

      Assange can also accept money from Putin without that affecting my principals.

      But don't try and claim that Assange has any principals in common with me. I've been paying attention to Assange's acts and the man clearly has no principals other than "worship me"

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    35. Re:It's stupid by phayes · · Score: 1

      Looks like you need a much better microscope to be able to continue clutching those straws there buddy.

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    36. Re: It's stupid by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 1

      The UK wants him for jumping bail.

      And what's the penalty for that? Oh, the penalty is you're held in jail until the case is resolved. Resolution is to ship him to Sweden.

      And the UK would, since they're extraditing him, be in a position to insist that if they extradite him, then they get to make sure Sweden doesn't do anything to him outside of what they agreed to extradite him for.

      Honestly, at this point it seems most likely that either he's guilty of what he's accused of, or suffering from delusions. The latter certainly would explain why Ecuador might be trying to get him to move out of their embassy, and I suspect he was long ago offered a chance to get out of the UK and to Ecuador.

    37. Re:It's stupid by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      ... and no one involved holds any office today.

      Anna Lindh certainly doesn't.

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    38. Re:It's stupid by dryeo · · Score: 1

      The important thing is that they are both allies of America and willing to do America's bidding.

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    39. Re:It's stupid by dryeo · · Score: 1

      Haven't you heard of Extraordinary rendition? America is well known for doing it, usually on the quiet.
      From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Extraordinary rendition, also called irregular rendition or forced rendition, is the government-sponsored abduction and extrajudicial transfer of a person from one country to another that has predominantly been carried out by the United States government with the consent of other countries.[1][2][3]

      The first known foreign rendition by the US was that of airline hijacker Fawaz Younis who, in September 1987, was abducted after being lured on a yacht in Italy and brought to the U.S. for trial, authorized by President Ronald Reagan.[4] President Bill Clinton authorized extraordinary rendition to nations known to practice interrogation, which has been called on occasion torture by proxy.[5] The administration of President George W. Bush rendered hundreds of illegal combatants for US detention, and transported detainees to US controlled sites as part of an extensive interrogation program that included torture.[6] Extraordinary rendition continued under the Obama administration; with targets being interrogated and subsequently taken to the US for trial.[7]

      The United Nations considers one nation abducting the citizens of another a crime against humanity.[8] In July 2014 the European Court of Human Rights condemned the government of Poland for participating in CIA extraordinary rendition, ordering Poland to pay restitution to men who had been abducted, taken to a CIA black site in Poland, and tortured.[9][10][11]

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    40. Re: It's stupid by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      No, they probably really want to try him for being an incredibly public person who has wilfully violated orders of the court. No country would adopt an "aww shucks" attitude towards this. He either stays in that building forever, or goes into handcuffs - those are his only two options.

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    41. Re: It's stupid by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      So now it's "being hunted" when you skip bail and hide in the embassy of a different country because you have delusions of grandeur regarding your own importance but really just don't want a judicial smackdown showing that you are another shithead in a long list of quasi-famous names who have no respect for women?

      Not much of a hunt when this guy does everything he can to put his finger in the eye of the UK government.

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    42. Re: It's stupid by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      England != UK

      England + Scotland + Wales + Northern Ireland = UK

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    43. Re:It's stupid by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      If the hand that feeds you is also the hand that abuses you, I wouldn't be surprised if you did some biting.

      Look, I'm not taking a side here. The moral dilemmas in this case are pretty confusing. I'm just saying that someone who receives a benefit is not necessarily out of bounds when they complain about receiving mistreatment.

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    44. Re:It's stupid by gravewax · · Score: 1

      The problem is he isn't just receiving a benefit, he is abusing that benefit through his own behaviour. The reasons he had his communications rights removed is because he is a pig and is turning the embassy into a pigsty. Basically he has received the equivalent of a go to your room without internet till you clean your shit up, to which he has responded FUCK YOU. Personally if I was them I would simply throw his arse on the sidewalk.

    45. Re: It's stupid by Cederic · · Score: 1

      However, the relevant legal jurisdiction is England and Wales, not Scotland or NI.

      It's considered acceptable to omit Wales, especially if you don't want to have to repeat yourself in an unspellable language.

    46. Re: It's stupid by Cederic · · Score: 1

      NI is occupied territory and is not part of UK willingly

      Bullshit. NI chooses to be part of the United Kingdom.

      significant force has had to be used

      Translation: About the same amount of force that the Chicago police use at the weekend.

      The army were sent in to help assure that all citizens - even those that do want to live in Ireland and not Northern Ireland - are equally secure and protected under the law.

      Even scottish people do not really want to be there

      If only there was a way to let them formally choose as a nation whether to leave the union. We could call it a referendum.

      Sorry, breaking news: it happened 4 years ago. The Scottish people revealed that on balance they do really want to be there.

      "Democracy is a tyranny of (infinitesimally larger, in cases) majority over minority"

      I believe Winston (bless his racist little soul) said it best:

      it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.

      I wont claim that British democracy lacks flaws, but it's a fuck of a lot better than letting a minority exert tyranny over a majority.

    47. Re:It's stupid by Cederic · · Score: 1

      After Britain leaves the EU that latter requirement would no longer be in effect.

      It will continue to be effect until/unless a new law is passed that removes it.

      Not that I trust the current Government to obey the current law, let alone enact a new one allowing state sanctioned murder.

    48. Re:It's stupid by Cederic · · Score: 1

      If the hand that feeds you is also the hand that abuses you, I wouldn't be surprised if you did some biting.

      Surely the better answer would be to just remove his cat and find it a home in which someone will feed it without abuse.

    49. Re:It's stupid by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      I know, it' not like that event went unnoticed here in Sweden... However she was murdered way before this extradition thing was exposed so we have no idea today if the powers at be simply used her as a scapegoat since she obviously could not defend her self at that point.

    50. Re:It's stupid by RockDoctor · · Score: 2
      At this point it's unlikely he would be killed.You can write this after the cock-sucking that Trump has been giving to Saudi Arabia over the killing of Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul? A problematic fucker like Assange is going to have the life expectancy of a snowflake in hell if the American get hold of him. Or one of their stooges, like the Swedes. He is completely justified in his expectation of death for being politically inconvenient.

      Or did you, for some deluded reason, think that "America is better than that"? Oh, man, that's such an Obama-era "alternative fact".

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    51. Re: It's stupid by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      No, Swedish law doesn't require such a thing.

      According to the UK's High Court, it does. I'm gonna trust them a wee bit more than an AC.

      Someone I know was charged and convicted in Sweden, and only then did Sweden ask his home country for an extradition. The guy did 2 years in a Swedish jail.

      r/thathappened

      but in that case, it would not have been possible to play one of those "lose him in the airport in the hands of CIA" tricks the Swedes are so good at.

      You realize that the UK could just as easily seize Assange for the US, right? It's not like British Intelligence has the cleanest hands in the world.

    52. Re:It's stupid by Agripa · · Score: 1

      No, he would have been extradited to the US.

      For what? He hasn't broken any US laws. If you do not have a security clearance, it is legal to publish classified information that is leaked to you.

      At most he would only need to be indicted and a warrant issued.

      Also, the UK and US are extremely close allies with nearly-identical legal systems. It would be far, far, easier to extradite Assange from the UK.

      I doubt it makes a significant difference.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    53. Re:It's stupid by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      You just reminded me.
      If anyone wanted to "come to justice" with less fear of something mysterious happening to them, NOW is the perfect time with the Saudi issues on the front burner.

    54. Re: It's stupid by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      Stop for a moment. Consider what you just said. Whistling at a girl is the equivalent of removing a condom during sex with a woman.
      Ponder that for a moment.
      now go sit in the corner until you're better.

  3. No More Free WiFi by Only+Time+Will+Tell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ecuador can show him the exits to the embassy and how to use them if Mr. Assange believes his proverbial 'living in his parent's basement without free wifi' is tantamount to human rights violations. He's more than free to walk out the door and find out what real prison looks like.

    1. Re:No More Free WiFi by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You know, it's hard to say whether Ecuador has the legal right to expel Assange. Ecuador (like the United States), is a signatory to a number of treaties which govern the treatment of asylum seekers, including the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948), and the Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees (1951).

      These treaties establish a right of a foreign national to seek asylum in a signatory country if he genuinely faces persecution, and imposes duties upon signatory countries, such as various forms of non-discrimination and provision of administrative support. So while it is bad manners for Assange to be a political PITA to Ecuador, that's not legally sufficient grounds for expelling a refugee admitted under these treaties. Ecuador would have to find that Assange does not face persecution, except for conditions spelled out under Article 14 of the UDHR.

      This puts Ecuador in a bind: unless something has substantively changed, it can't expel Assange without either (a) admitting that it violated the sovereignty of the UK by granting him bogus asylum in the first place or (b) apparently violating Assange's rights as a legitimate refugee under conventions that Ecuador is signatory to.

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    2. Re:No More Free WiFi by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Ecuador doesn't have to prove that he would face political persecution if expelled (to whatever country), it's up to Assange to prove that he would. A country is not legally bound merely by a claim of an asylum seeker. Ecuador could just say that they granted him asylum while considering the claim and then found later that there was no basis to the claim.

    3. Re:No More Free WiFi by gravewax · · Score: 1

      Ecuador is not in a bind at all..Assange has to prove he would face persecution, Ecuador doesn't need to prove anything, they just state they have been presented with no evidence he will face persecution and expel him.

    4. Re:No More Free WiFi by hey! · · Score: 1

      The point is that Ecuador has already accepted Assange's claim.

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  4. It's almost like... by NecroPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He's trying to get thrown out.

    If I were the ambassador there, my response to this would be contact the London Met police, say he's coming out in 30 minutes, and then have the two burliest members of staff toss his arse into the street.

    There is, I suspect, a reason I'm not an ambassador.

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  5. So that's the answer! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2

    When you are caught between a rock and a hard place, sue the hard place! ;)

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  6. Re:My oh my by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

    IIRC he hid because he was afraid Sweden would extradite him to the US, not because he was unwilling to face charges in Sweden which, as you say, most likely wouldn't have gone anywhere.

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  7. Re:My oh my by Theaetetus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Glenn Greenwald has been one of the most ardent Assange supporters from the get-go. I wonder what he is going to have to say about this.

    Assange used to be someone to admire but those days seem long over. It is one thing to have principles but had he just given himself up, gone to Sweden (likely), got tried for bad sex (less likely), convicted (even less likely) spent time in prison (totally unlikely) at the maximum sentence he would have been free and clear for over two years now.

    Prone to bad decisions.

    Yes, except characterizing penetration of an unconscious person after she had repeatedly told him no while awake as "bad sex" is more than a bit misleading.

  8. What a terrible idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You shouldn't shit where you sleep.

    1. Re:What a terrible idea. by jeff4747 · · Score: 2

      Either Assange gets his weekly pizza and free wifi back, he's booted out and nobody really cares, or he's booted out and becomes a martyr.

      All three are superior to sittin' watchin' the paint peel

      There is nothing preventing him from simply walking out the door. If he wants to wrap this up somehow and do it now, then he really doesn't need a lawsuit or anyone's permission.

  9. Is he deranged? by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

    I guess that all these years holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy are starting to take their toll. Soon the guy will be eager to take his chances vis-a-vis US extradition, rather than carrying on wasting his life.

    1. Re:Is he deranged? by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

      Honestly though... If *I* were cooped up in one building for six years, with torture and murder at the hands of the CIA awaiting me should I ever set foot outside, I would probably be pretty deranged by now too.

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    2. Re:Is he deranged? by powerlord · · Score: 1

      Could be worse.

      Could be the Syrian embassy.

      Embassy Suites should sue Syria and Ecuador for giving Embassies a bad name.

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  10. Re:Ungrateful by HarrySquatter · · Score: 1

    Exactly. They should just boot his attention-whoring ass out.

  11. Re:There's the Riemann Hypothesis as well by HarrySquatter · · Score: 1

    And this has what to do with the topic of this story?

  12. He's an ingrate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Assange is an ungrateful prick. He never acknowledges the price Ecuador is paying for him; he just constantly gives them a black eye for their pains.
    It sucks when you have to defend assholes.

  13. Narcissist by carlhaagen · · Score: 1

    In the unlikely case that there was still someone out there who doubted that he's a big flaming narcissist, here you go.

  14. Re: too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Iâ(TM)m not the previous poster, but the allegation is in fact an allegation. Whether itâ(TM)s spurious or not is not proven. If I recall the context, the charges were that he took advantage of women who were already sleeping next to him. The question of whether he did this or not... whether it was consensual or not, etc... are all charges which need would have to pass through the justice system. It is possible we would not have the ability to find the facts of the cases even through due process, but just because the justice systems are far from perfect, it doesnâ(TM)t mean they should be discounted as useless or irrelevant.

    If the charges are found to be spurious following due process or guilt canâ(TM)t be proven beyond reasonable doubt, then it is fair to call them spurious. But at least one (I believe it was two) women have brought charges and if nothing else Assange was foolish enough to place himself in a situation where such charges could be raised (spurious or not).

    So, I think itâ(TM)s fair to call the man an idiot that he would, while under such public scrutiny and while facing a risk of extradition to countries hostile towards him, he would not behaved more appropriately as to avoid the risks of further charges.

  15. Assange and Snowden... by ole_timer · · Score: 2

    ...aught to be put in the same cell together and they can tell each other how great thy are...

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    1. Re:Assange and Snowden... by ole_timer · · Score: 1

      oh, and how their rights are being taken away...

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    2. Re:Assange and Snowden... by Megol · · Score: 1

      You comparing those two says a lot about you.

    3. Re:Assange and Snowden... by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      Why? Assange hasn't broken any US laws.

    4. Re:Assange and Snowden... by ole_timer · · Score: 1

      who said the jail cell was in the US?

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    5. Re:Assange and Snowden... by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      Well, Snowden broke US law when he accepted Russian aid, so he'd be in a US prison. So if you want them to be in the same prison, it's going to be a US one.

    6. Re:Assange and Snowden... by ole_timer · · Score: 1

      True enough and we don't do rendition anymore. Assange would have to charged in US. Oh well, one can hope.

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  16. I don't understand why by oldgraybeard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ecuador has not given him the boot after all this time.

    Just my 2 cents ;)

    1. Re:I don't understand why by ole_timer · · Score: 1

      they want him to walk...

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    2. Re:I don't understand why by Ecuador · · Score: 1

      He is useful as the fourth player for bridge.

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  17. This shall not stand by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    As a show of solidarity with Julian Assange, I will be suing my mother for violating my rights by insisting that I get a job and move out.

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  18. Re:Sucks by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The real problem is Assange is a prisoner of his own paranoia.
    While the Wikileaks annoyed countries, they care more about the people who leaked the information to him, more then him being the one who posted it. Heck after it was posted on Wikileaks the main stream media picked it up and publicly rebroadcasted it.

    In terms of US Freedom he helped out Trump so he is good.

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  19. Assange is a narcissist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Assange is like a bad referee in sports. When a referee does their job properly, few know their name. The game recap focuses on how the players and coaches performed.

    When a referee does an excessively poor job (e.g., bringing unnecessary attention to themselves), the game recap becomes about the ref. The performance of the players becomes secondary.

    Assange is/was a bad referee for Wikileaks. He made the focus all about him, not the confidential information. Seems Ecuador is finally learning how much Assange desires the spotlight.

  20. Re:My oh my by Megol · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, he _claimed_ that's why he hid. Anybody with intelligence can do some research and find out how likely that scenario is compared to the scenario he didn't even mention - that the UK could extradite him to the US. Why he would choose to go to prison of his own choice? Mental illness? Wanting to become some kind of (living) martyr? Realizing that a guilty verdict for rape could be a problem?

    None of those makes sense, but him being afraid of extradition to (and sentenced to death in) the USA makes the least sense of them all. Absolute bullshit!

  21. Maybe #MeToo?? by rojash · · Score: 1

    Maybe #MeToo would be more effective at getting him to resign himself LOL

  22. Is it truly a rights violation? by franzrogar · · Score: 1

    I mean, he can send and reveive phisical letters so... what's he complaining about?

    I mean, Internet is only to send and receive information which he can do physically (sending DVDs for example or handwritten letters).

    Slower? Yes, but he can communicate. Internet, as far as I know, has never ever been part of the Human Rights as it's a "medium" and not the "only medium" to use one if the rights there written.

    1. Re:Is it truly a rights violation? by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

      I suspect accessing PornHub via sending and receiving physical letters is somewhat cumbersome...

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  23. Re:My oh my by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

    Glenn Greenwald has been one of the most ardent Assange supporters from the get-go. I wonder what he is going to have to say about this.

    I'm guessing something about Clinton, Cheney, 9/11, Clinton again, Morgan Stanley, the Democrats, neo-conservatism, Clinton again, the CIA, 9/11, Clinton again, some spurious accusation of hypocrisy against the ACLU, Clinton again, CIA, banksters, Clinton.

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  24. Re:My oh my by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Except what you just repeated is propaganda based on false allegations. It's not like false flags have ever occured.

    Yeah because you were there are no exactly what happened right? Or are you just taking it on faith of the great god Assange that his word is holy and true and any disbeliever is a heretic?

    That's why we have a judicial system, you get tried, rather than just declaring yourself innocent and running away like a crying kid.

    Of course I'm forgetting these mysterious powers who would somehow salt him away through the real process, despite their failures to do so when they could easily have done during the many times when it's been pretty publicly known where he was, they chose some massive international ruse relying on multiple countries, countless officials etc. A theory worthy of David Icke.

  25. He is a guest. Throw is ass out. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    He is a guest. If he doesn't like the rules of the house, throw is ass out.

    And I wouldn't let him have guests, a cat, a phone or any computing devices either. If he wants the rights of a free person, there's the door. Go, be free.

    PuLEEEEEEASE. Throw his ass out.

  26. Re:My oh my by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

    Yes, except characterizing penetration of an unconscious person after she had repeatedly told him no while awake as "bad sex" is more than a bit misleading.

    Except that didn't happen.

    The crime he's accused of is lying about using a condom in order to get consent. Which is why his supporters flip out over that being illegal in Sweden and legal in other countries.

  27. He's not too dangrous by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    but letting him go would send the wrong message. The goal is to wreck his life, which we've done and will continue to do.

    That said, he's part of what gave us Donald Trump. I don't think he thought that one through. Hillary was no friend of his, but neither was Trump, and by helping Trump slide into the whitehouse he's pissed off the lefties who defended him. I've certainly noticed that they've made themselves scarce on /. since the election. Pre 2016 there were a ton of his defenders around here. Nowadays they're no where to be found...

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  28. Re:My oh my by blahplusplus · · Score: 2

    Yeah because you were there are no exactly what happened right?

    Anyone with an inkling of the history of america knows it's true, people like you are laughable morons. Most of todays slashdot commentariat proves americans are gullible idiots. It was obvious to anyone with half a clue you piss off and do a data dump on the war crimes of the biggest empire on the planet, that's going to piss a lot of people at the top the fuck off enough to come after your ass.

    You don't see the world as it is see the science:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  29. Re: My oh my by HarrySquatter · · Score: 1

    Sweden dropped the charges more than a year ago.

    https://www.theguardian.com/me...

  30. Re:My oh my by HarrySquatter · · Score: 1

    The charges for the crime he was accused of were dropped by Swedish prosecutors nearly a year and a half ago.

  31. Guests should not piss in the punchbowl by swschrad · · Score: 1

    which is what Assange is doing. Ecuador kept his butt out of jail as an asylum seeking guest. well, governments change, and wot ya know, they're tired of him. at least he hasn't been kicked out yet. keep this up, it will happen. he will meet the Crown, and best have a good lawyer with him to get mere deportation.

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  32. Re:My oh my by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

    No, two sets of charges were dropped. There is still one case against him.

  33. Re:My oh my by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Right so what you are saying is that because that is a possibility, it cannot therefore ever be possible that Assange can commit any crime ever, because anything he's accused of must be because of your assumed conspiracy.

    Of course, whatever you say. Assange has now by his actions of revealing secrets which piss people off been elevated to a god who can do no wrong, because any allegation is not because it could be true, but because of this other stuff. Nice position to be in.

    Laughable morons? I guess your overall self righteousness in terms of seeing everybody else view as result of being a Moron is what separates you from the rest of us. Please pat yourself on the back and feel smug about what a genius you are that your response to an alternate view is such an intelligent analysis.

  34. Snowflake discovers third world country ... by ishmaelflood · · Score: 1

    ... doesn't respect his rights as much as he'd like. Poor snowflake.

  35. Re:Sucks by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    So while Assange claims he is essentially a prisoner because of a big cache of information he passed along, the person who provided that cache is now out of military prison and has not "disappeared" or been charged with civilian crimes.

  36. I'm not happy with Assange by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    since he helped give us Trump, but the US has most certainly _not_ withdrawn from the world stage under Trump. Not even a little. We've expanded our troop deployments, we've threatened Iran without provocation or cause, we've continued to assist Saudi Arabia in their war in Yemen (our bombs just blew up a school bus there) and we keep dicking with South America (there's evidence we're helping prop up that right wing insurgency in Brazil since the leftists are threatening US corporate economic interests down there).

    I'm not saying this is on Trump per se. Obama did the same thing. So did Bush (both of 'em). So did Clinton. But I _am_ saying Trump loudly promised to stop this crap and then kept doing it.

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  37. Re:My oh my by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 1

    Yes, except characterizing penetration of an unconscious person after she had repeatedly told him no while awake as "bad sex" is more than a bit misleading.

    Except that didn't happen.

    The crime he's accused of is lying about using a condom in order to get consent. Which is why his supporters flip out over that being illegal in Sweden and legal in other countries.

    Well, the thing that really makes it amusing is that a lot of the people flipping out over it being illegal in Sweden live in countries where it probably is also illegal, or is likely to become illegal due to changes in the law or in how it's interpreted.

  38. Re: GAY NIGGERS OF AMERICA GNAA GNAA SUPPORTS CATS by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

    No, they just treat all off-topic posts equally.

    Equality for all!

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  39. Very educational by sageres · · Score: 1

    Ladies and gentlemen, this is a very definition of the word "Chutzpah". After being given refuge, food and shelter, we should sue our benefactors for making us clean up after ourselves! (How dare they!)

  40. Re:My oh my by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

    Yes, except characterizing penetration of an unconscious person after she had repeatedly told him no while awake as "bad sex" is more than a bit misleading.

    Except that didn't happen.

    The crime he's accused of is lying about using a condom in order to get consent. Which is why his supporters flip out over that being illegal in Sweden and legal in other countries.

    As others have pointed out, there were two events:
    First, he was accused of lying about using a condom in order to get consent. Specifically, he's accused of intentionally removing the condom during sex, knowing that she had explicitly refused consenting to sex without a condom. That charge, however, has been dropped.
    Second, he was accused of penetrating an unconscious person without a condom after she had explicitly refused to have sex with him without a condom before she went to sleep. That charge is rape, and is still pending. And it's not legal in most other countries, notably England, which is why the UK High Court refused his request to deny extradition. It's also rape here in the US. If someone says no, you don't get to wait until they're asleep and then say "lol, you didn't say no now!"

  41. Re:Sucks by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

    Name one freedom you no longer have in the US. And be specific. Show some intelligence in your answer.

    A specious way to pose the question. But since you asked, it's not so much a matter of what freedoms you no longer have, but rather what freedoms are under attack.

    Here's a sample. Google can find you others.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/...
    https://www.axios.com/united-n...
    https://www.axios.com/trump-ad...

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  42. LMFAO!!! by sentiblue · · Score: 1

    What an ungrateful son of a bitch! I want the Ecuador embassy to kick him out to the street of London, get kicked around a whole lot then arrested by UK police for the rape charges they've been wanting to press, then extradited to the US for espionage and receive life sentence without parole.

  43. Re:GAY NIGGERS OF AMERICA GNAA GNAA SUPPORTS CATS by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

    I have a sneaking suspicion the original post and the rebuttal came from the same source.