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With 5G, You Won't Just Be Watching Video. It'll Be Watching You, Too (cnet.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: When most people think of 5G, they're envisioning an ultra-fast, high-bandwidth connection that lets you download seasons of your favorite shows in minutes. But 5G's possibilities go way beyond that, potentially reinventing how we watch video, and opening up a mess of privacy uncertainties. "Right now you make a video much the same way you did for TV," Dan Garraway, co-founder of interactive video company Wirewax, said in an interview this month. "The dramatic thing is when you turn video into a two-way conversation. Your audience is touching and interacting inside the experience and making things happen as a result."

The personalized horror flick or tailored rom-com? They would hinge on interactive video layers that use emotional analysis based on your phone's front-facing camera to adjust what you're watching in real time. You may think it's far-fetched, but one of key traits of 5G is an ultra-responsive connection with virtually no lag, meaning the network and systems would be fast enough to react to your physical responses. 5G is on the cusp of reality, with the first compatible smartphones set to debut next year.

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  1. Piss Off by nagora · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm paying you to entertain me, so bloody get on with it.

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  2. yawn by fluffernutter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Allowing public to pick the story is a terrible idea. The masses are a completely predictable force and will select the most stereotypical and obvious outcomes every time. I certainly hope 'good story writing' isn't becoming a thing of the past, because I sure haven't seen much of it lately.

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    1. Re:yawn by olsmeister · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The masses are a completely predictable force and will select the most stereotypical and obvious outcomes every time.

      Well, not always.

    2. Re:yawn by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If we look at highest grossing movies of all time as any indicator:

      * Avatar
      * Titantic
      * Star Wars: The Force Awakens

      Sadly, I think I have to agree with you. :-/

  3. Developers, devel... er, data, data, data. And ads by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Big Data (as in Big Pharma or Big Oil) will love this. Of course they will not just use this data to provide interactive video but to provide all manner of feedback for other purposes as well (to "tailor the user experience"), while in the meantime your privacy is getting raped in a ditch. But such technology will most certainly also lead to ads that aren't just unskippable, but have to be watched as well. "RESUME VIEWING... RESUME VIEWING... RESUME VIEWING"

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  4. In Soviet Russia ... by Toad-san · · Score: 5, Funny

    video watches you!

  5. 5G by rossdee · · Score: 2, Funny

    49 metres per second squared

    a bit tough on the old ticker, eh?

  6. Phrasing! by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Funny

    The dramatic thing is when you turn video into a two-way conversation. Your audience is touching and interacting inside the experience and making things happen

    Look, I know that most video technologies end up getting used for porn first, but you could have been a little more discreet in the description...

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  7. Black Electrical Tape by foxalopex · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sooo... How much longer before I start seeing folks taping over their phone camera with a piece of electrical tape?

  8. Let's adress the real non-sequitur here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How is a low-level data transmission technology in any way related to specific high-level application "features"?

    Will the standard comittee "i.p." the technology, and only license it to manufacturers that make devices with screens and cameras, and force usage of only specific software on them that only supports downloading videos while watching them (and afterwards forgetting where it downloaded them) (aka "streamin"), if the user is spied on too??

    That sounds more than silly.

    How would a 5G tower even check that? Or care...

    The whole thing is batshit insane. Full locked section of thmental hostpital level!

    1. Re:Let's adress the real non-sequitur here. by laie_techie · · Score: 4, Informative

      How is a low-level data transmission technology in any way related to specific high-level application "features"?

      Will the standard comittee "i.p." the technology, and only license it to manufacturers that make devices with screens and cameras, and force usage of only specific software on them that only supports downloading videos while watching them (and afterwards forgetting where it downloaded them) (aka "streamin"), if the user is spied on too??

      That sounds more than silly.

      How would a 5G tower even check that? Or care...

      The whole thing is batshit insane. Full locked section of thmental hostpital level!

      I wish I had mod points! 5G is just a connection standard. In theory 5G connection speeds might be enough to support a new video technology with big brother watching video of you, but at this point it's all FUD

  9. Don't worry Americans, you're safe. by Puls4r · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Our data plans won't allow the amount of data transfer that this requires.

    Most people will already blow through their phone's data allocations if they stream over it. The hotspot data? One sizeable file and you're done. Stream a couple movies? Done.

    So if you are some huge data plan where you can actually USE that neat feature, cool. But how will these companies justify suddenly give people 5 or 10x the data they current do? They already say that the infrastructure is too expensive to provide what we already get.

    So don't worry. We're safe....

  10. Re:Developers, devel... er, data, data, data. And by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of course they will not just use this data to provide interactive video but to provide all manner of feedback for other purposes as well (to "tailor the user experience")

    Ads, political content, news stories, and on and on. Just the next step in sculpting your own individual rendition of reality.

    Many people I know live in their own bubble anyway. My hunch is that might help everyone get along a bit better. I think that's why some are so surprised that some topics have more depth to them, they've only been hearing one side and didn't realize that there was more than one facet to the problem. It's not uncommon that both 'sides' of an issue are roughly stating the truth, they just focus on different aspects of the truth.

  11. Not specific to 5G by Wyzard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is just saying that 5G will be fast enough for interactive two-way video with low latency. Sure, but that's already possible with the wired and wifi connections that people use at home. So it's not like this'll be an automatic and direct consequence of 5G; it's just a separate technology that happens to also be in development.

    1. Re:Not specific to 5G by locopuyo · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's already possible with 4G LTE and people are doing it now. LTE had huge latency improvements over 3G.

  12. 1984 Telescreens. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    So essentially they're creating Orwell's Telescreen. The TV that watches you!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telescreen

  13. 5G Cures Cancer by Luthair · · Score: 3, Funny

    Says guy in 5g industry.

  14. Nope... by DarkOx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Half the country has sub 200ms latency connections at 10+Mbps transfer rates to most well homed services now. In their homes. Plenty for responsive (whatever that means exactly) HD Video.

    We'd see this kind of entertainment already if there was really a market for it. "On cell phone" does not some how make the nature of why we enjoy video change.

    People consume entertainment video precisely because its passive. Its all about being spoon fed entertainment or information without having to work for it. Its also about shared experience; you want to be able to discuss what you saw with others. Not many really want a "choose your own adventure" movie. How do you talk about it with your buddies when each of your stories had a different ending? - You don't - its a video game at that point its a very different conversation - usually about play style etc...

    5G is just more data faster. Its not some revolution; and I suspect we are going find that for the vast majority of users beyond 4G is moving into the territory of diminishing returns.

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    1. Re:Nope... by Solandri · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm still trying to figure out what market demand 5G is trying to meet. The only use case I can think of which isn't already met by 4G data is pirating movies (downloading multi-gigabyte files in a short period of time). 4G is already fast enough for streaming, web browsing, email/facebook, video sharing/conferencing. It's already as fast or faster than the wired Internet speeds for anyone except people on fiber or high-end cable Internet plans. As people have joked, 5G speeds would let them blow through their monthly data cap in less than a minute.

      The only practical reason I can think of for switching to 5G is that it helps carriers free up congestion. By providing higher burst bandwidth, it gets users off their data network more quickly, leaving more bandwidth for users who want new data.

  15. One benefit to living in the country by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 2

    Given the extremely short range of 5G, deployment to rural areas isn't likely going to happen much so this sort of foolishness won't be a problem.

  16. Re: This is already feasible with 4G, right? by Pros_n_Cons · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How is this different than spy apps?

    A thief may steal property but a liar may steal reality.

    Pair two technologies we know already exist. They have shown us video that has been altered that most people didn't catch like Obama making statements he didn't make just used his millions of audio data to make a false statement and edit lip movement to match.
    Now pair it with Google's assistant which can book appointments and interact in a way undetectable by most people. Good thing they don't have 15 years of you speaking, enunciating, divulging personal information over the wire...what you've been using Google voice for a decade? Google fiber too? OMG and your Gmail? Well heck mixed with customized video, your voice and knowledge of virtually everything you've said for two decades they could literally call your mama on Skype and tell her you'll be there for dinner.

    So what's the big deal? Reality has effectively has been stolen from you. Your choices, opinions, and personality are based on lies and that makes you what they want to make you.

    Or you may choose to still call us paranoid

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  17. Re: This is already feasible with 4G, right? by stranger_to_himself · · Score: 4, Funny

    How is this different than spy apps?

    A thief may steal property but a liar may steal reality.

    Pair two technologies we know already exist. They have shown us video that has been altered that most people didn't catch like Obama making statements he didn't make just used his millions of audio data to make a false statement and edit lip movement to match.

    Now pair it with Google's assistant which can book appointments and interact in a way undetectable by most people. Good thing they don't have 15 years of you speaking, enunciating, divulging personal information over the wire...what you've been using Google voice for a decade? Google fiber too? OMG and your Gmail? Well heck mixed with customized video, your voice and knowledge of virtually everything you've said for two decades they could literally call your mama on Skype and tell her you'll be there for dinner.

    So what's the big deal? Reality has effectively has been stolen from you. Your choices, opinions, and personality are based on lies and that makes you what they want to make you.
     

    Finally, a good reason to have an existential crisis.

  18. Re:Everything since 3G by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2

    Yup, it's almost comical that every 20 years the cycle is:

    * Fat Clients
    * Thin Clients

    Rinse. Repeat. Profit. False Promises.

  19. At last... by Radical+Moderate · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...those 7 wacky castaways will finally get off Gilligan's Island! Will make for a very short season though.

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    1. Re:At last... by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      ...those 7 wacky castaways will finally get off Gilligan's Island! Will make for a very short season though.

      I disagree.

      I think there are WAY more than enough of us that enjoy seeing Mary Ann in her tight shorts and crop tops......we'll keep them on the island for viewing forever.

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  20. Re: This is already feasible with 4G, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They don't have to send _video_ of you back. They only have to send back the results of the analysis of the video.

    Did scenes with fancy sports cars cause your eyes to dilate? Were you less likely to look away from the screen for a scene set in a coffee shop, or one set in a pizza parlor?

    Don't fool yourself that upload speeds will ever get in the way of spying.

  21. Re: This is already feasible with 4G, right? by Bobrick · · Score: 2

    What dimwit voted this AC down?