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Amazon Has Pulled Ads From Bloomberg Over Controversial 'Big Hack' Chinese Spy Story; Apple Has Not Invited Outlet's Reporters To a Product Event Next Week (buzzfeednews.com)
Both Amazon and Apple are taking retributive measures against Bloomberg, which in a report earlier this month alleged that some motherboards used by these companies were hacked by China. From a report: Amazon pulled its fourth quarter advertisements on Bloomberg's website, a move some within the media giant think is retribution for its controversial story alleging that Chinese spies hacked into the online retailer's servers. According to a source in position to know, Amazon's digital media buyer, Initiative, informed Bloomberg's sales staff on October 16 that it would cancel its ad buys for the fourth quarter due to budget cuts. Internally, the source said, the staff received that decision, made only eight days after a previous communication with Initiative confirming that the ads would run, as a direct response to Amazon's displeasure over the October 4 story. (Amazon announced Thursday that its marketing expenses for Q3 2018 were 3.3 billion dollars, up more than 800 million dollars from the year before.) [...] According to multiple sources, Bloomberg was not invited to Apple's fall product event next week in Brooklyn. Further reading: In an Unprecedented Move, Apple CEO Tim Cook Calls For Bloomberg To Retract Its Chinese Spy Chip Story.
They don't want to go through discovery, they just want to bury the news.
You must be a complete cretin to still not realize this. 100% of all consumer-available computers are fully backdoored. Get it through your thick skulls already.
Why would you pull these antics unless it's really a fact. Are the Chinese pulling the strings?
If anything retaliating against the reporting agency makes the story look MORE TRUE, NOT LESS. Apple "doesn't want to sue" but does this piddly shit? Telling?
I knew they had featured products and the like, but I didn't remember Amazon having ad ads. Maybe that is for non-Prime members (not virtue signaling, I swear, though perhaps that would really be more vice-signaling).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It's the only way to hold so-called news reporters to any sort of standard.
Why should Apple or Amazon continue to deal with Bloomberg when Apple and Amazon think they've been the victim of false reporting?
...so we ran the story!
Even corporations, ain't havin it anymore.
The days of "news" (read: propaganda) outlets are numbered.
The only problem is: What will replace it? ... The only sources one can actually trust, are one's senses and one's close friends. And even those can be tricked. ... Philosophy and physics always said reality is relative. i don't think we're ready to accept, how relative it is, and how little we can be sure of anything we seem to experience, though. I mean look at Wikipedia... They still can't put the concepts of 1. relative reality, and 2. not having every nutjob put his bullshit in there, under one hat. They think (1) requires (2).
For me... I will just call what I experience with my senses reality. And all the rest... all the "sources"... as mere stories. They might be right. But unless I have checked myself, and found them trustworthy in their predictions, they are useless.
Feb 2017
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https://arstechnica.com/civis/...
Their claims that they knew nothing of this security issue from Supermicro has all the appererances of a PR cover up
No moron Kohath, it's NOT the only recourse you idiot. If a story that is printed is false on the merits, YOU SUE FOR LIBEL. It's simple. You don't play passive aggressive footsie you moron. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc._litigation
Entire publications have been shuttered over a single suit like that, pay attention stupid.
Neither Apple nor Amazon owe Bloomberg or anyone else ads. When an advertiser pulls ads from someone like Sean Hannity or Rosie in a blatant attempt to hurt those outlets, everyone here cheers. But Apple pulls ads from Bloomberg and the cries of unfairness are loud. Some people here will "never buy Apple" because, you know, Chinese slave labor and all that. You get to do that. You have that right. You get to make a political decision about where you spend your money. So do Apple and Amazon. It's nothing more complicated than that.
How about a moderation of -1 pedantic.
The thing is, just recently LOTS of news orgs, and the government itself could find no evidence of what was reported - and both Apple and Amazon did not just give PR responses, but much stronger responses that would lead to large fines if they were lying.
Since everyone else on Earth is unable to verify the story, it's far more likely Bloomburg really screwed up.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
they have been blacklisting the media outlets that don't praise them for years now.
Like the snake that ate itself alive...
If SuperMicro is guilty of this, then all Bloomberg has to do is go online, but some boards and pay MIT or some other school with the facilities to find the malicious chips. That seems pretty logical right?
If the chips actually exist, they should be pretty easy to identify. Just cross reference the chips and the drivers and verify what is OEM, Chinese or otherwise and then reverse engineer them and simulate the hack.
This is not a difficult thing to do.
I know of a NATO government organization that has pulled the power from a stack of Nutanix servers because of this article. I asked them to prove to me that the story had any merit other than FUD and they explained that they pulled the plug because they need proof there is no merit not the other way around.
I think SuperMicro should sue the shit out of Bloomberg over this. So should Nutanix and every other company financially effected by this article. Then Bloomberg will be forced to either prove their claims ... at which point we can all apologize and thank them or they can suffer the hundreds of millions in losses over publishing this rubbish.
I'd guess that the story is true and the affected megacorps are trying to cover it up. I'd guess that these megacorps are cooperating with the TLAs investigating the issue, and don't want the story made public because they'd rather not go public about a data breach (at least not individually and earlier than necessary), which the TLAs would also prefer in this case. So the media would be both compromising the investigation and bringing bad PR to the victims by reporting on this.
In a couple years we'll probably hear that it was all true and the affected companies will jointly disclose the data breach.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
They hate free people and free markets. Regulatory capture & slavery just pays soooo much better!
..and the Chinks will do it themselves after their million men gay army have invaded. Poohbear is gonna turn those fags into national heros by nuking them, creating a myth that America nuked Taiwan rather than see China possess it plus he gets rid of all those queers he hates. Win win.
Jesus youre fucking ignorant Kendall.
And shit in their streets. I think you mixed up your metaphor ESL Chinese Agent!
So while reading the "comments" where it seems everyone is accusing everyone else of being a shill, I couldn't help but thinking any number of them could actually be from Chinese or Russians, working against each other to either discredit the story or hype it up. As an American it seems strange to live in a world where everything around you has the potential to be tainted by foreign psyops, I imagine this must be a little bit like the third world felt during the cold war.
Capitalist contact with the vast Chinese market leads to sensitivity to communist Chinese government pressures. I believe these actions are the result of pressure directly or indirectly by the Chinese government. We can expect to see more and more of this shaping of our system by the Chinese and amoral/immoral bussiness leaders greedy for Chinese business.
E Proelio Veritas.
If it wasn't true, they wouldn't be overreacting so much.
"According to multiple sources, Bloomberg was not invited to Apple's fall product event next week in Brooklyn." Given that anyone with a Mac or Apple TV can just watch the event online for free and get the same information that everyone else gets at the same time, there's no need to send valuable journalists to the actual venue.
https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2018/10/05/making-sense-of-the-supermicro-motherboard-attack/
"Perhaps the animation is an artist’s concept only, but this is just the right place to compromise the BMC.
That's the Security Group at the University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory, and they take no prisoners (;-))
davecb@spamcop.net
Let that set in. The ONLY reason Amazon or anyone else gives a damn about this story is the perceived tie to Trump. Period. The media otherwise lies like a 4 year old (and acts like one), yet never face any kind of reprecutions... Brace yourselves, it's only going to get worse as the US election cycle kicks in again.
Regarding Bloomberg divulging their sources, let me remind you of the slope that would create... Their sources are protected for a reason. It's also quite possible doing so would reveal leaks within the NSA/CIA/*.Government Agency. For what?
You'd have no argument against it from me if MSM suddenly decided that publishing unfounded, poorly researched stories were criminal. That isn't how they operate.
I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with Trump more out of pure spite for the bloody left.
When i know for sure that many agencys do the same thing,
They plant spy hardware in other hardware whenever it suits them for spying on others.
Foreign companys that buy hardware from the usa get their stuff infested with the same kind of hardware.
This denial just makes it all worse. As if it is never done.
Lol, when something can be done, you can be sure that someone will be doing it.
Sounds like pissy little babies run those companies. Is this the world we want?