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Should Alexa Be Your Child's Friend? (engadget.com)

"Alexa, will you be my friend?"

"I'm happy to be your friend."

What should a parent do when they hear their five-year-old having that conversation? Engadget explores the question, also providing another example. Four-year-old Aiden has struggled with bullies in school, and has found an unexpected friend in his grandmother's Echo Plus. After a particularly stressful day at school, his mother, Alexandria Melton, heard her son crying in the next room. "Alexa," he asked, "are we friends?"

'Of course we are," Alexa responded.

"Alexa, I love you," Aiden said.

The parents aren't worried about these relationships -- but Engadget asks, should they be? Dr. John Mayer, an adolescent psychologist, says "The behaviors of kids talking to a 'non-real' entity is not new in human development." But Fran Walfish, a Beverly Hills family and relationship psychotherapist, "believes that children should not make friends with Alexa. Her main objection is that early friendship with Alexa may bring children to expect the same instant, accurate responses from real friends down the line."
"Alexa has taught, or conditioned, kids to expect an immediate response," Walfish said. "Human interactiveness requires patience that allows people a chance to think, process information and retrieve responses..."

Some experts and parents also note that a friendship with Alexa can help children practice friendships outside of school -- it's a trial run for the real world. Robin E. believes that since her son has became friends with Alexa, his speech has become clearer, and that he's learned to slow down and enunciate so that Alexa can understand him... While parents and teachers can generally piece together sloppy English, Alexa won't give you what you want unless you're clear and concise.

Engadget also points out parents can review and listen to every interaction their child has with Alexa using Amazon's "FreeTime Unlimited" tools, "so you can pick up on any danger signs, and get a better understanding of the relationship."

And in addition, "A week or a month without Alexa can help your kid refocus and find other places to socialize."

119 comments

  1. slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Slashdot readers will no doubt be able to provide expert advice on this

    1. Re:slashdot by nospam007 · · Score: 2

      "Slashdot readers will no doubt be able to provide expert advice on this"

      Sure, it's a shameless Alexa ad for parents, who want to spy on their kid's conversations with his invisible friend.
      They didn't know that was possible and now they all ordered one for tomorrow.

    2. Re:slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I drew the line w/Alexia when she
      started asking for "low angle" shots.

      CAP === 'gutting'

    3. Re:slashdot by HyperQuantum · · Score: 1

      Of course. You should know. You're the expert :-P

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      I am not really here right now.
    4. Re: slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And we all wish he would have never came inside your moms fat pussy. That way we wouldn't of had to deal with you.

      Alexa, why didn't Chris' mother swallow him?

    5. Re: slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if the same had applied to you, then we "wouldn't of had to" read your crappy bad grammar.

    6. Re:slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought he fixed the vacuum cleaner after you spent another evening abusing the crevice tool.

    7. Re:slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man this comment makes so much sense and has so much to do with the rest of the story.
      Fuck a home run creimer!!! With skills like this you should be working at huff post or breitbart

  2. Forget Alexa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want Harmony! (WARNING: not safe for work!)

  3. at least by renegade600 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    at least alexa does not tell the kid to shut up and leave it alone. I can see alexa helping with speech at that age. the kid must be able to speak clearly and build up a vocabulary in order for alexa to follow commands.

    There have been reports that alexa has help stroke victims with their speech too.

    1. Re:at least by arth1 · · Score: 2

      Not so much help with reading or physical activities, though.

      At first I thought that these kids were just using Alexa as an ersatz teddy bear. Then I thought it over a bit more, and came to the conclusion that I'm right, except that this teddy only listens in the hope of generating sales leads.

    2. Re:at least by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2

      at least alexa does not tell the kid to shut up and leave it alone

      If you're implying that's the parents.. then this is even more disturbing. We do NOT need a generation of kids growing up relating more to a disembodied voice provided by (and monitored, analyzed, monetized, and directed) some company like Google or Amazon. You think too many people have little regard for their own privacy now? Just wait until those kids grow up, thinking that "Alexa is their friend" and trust it as much (if not more) than they do other humans. Sound like something out of a dystopian future scifi movie? You're right, it does; can you say "Cautionary tale"?

      These gods-be-damned things are just more cancer, like 'social media' is. And now they're pushing them that have cameras in them, too.

    3. Re:at least by renegade600 · · Score: 1

      Not so much help with reading or physical activities, though.

      At first I thought that these kids were just using Alexa as an ersatz teddy bear. Then I thought it over a bit more, and came to the conclusion that I'm right, except that this teddy only listens in the hope of generating sales leads.

      alexa does have some exercise skills and there have been studies that shows audiobooks does help with reading and listening skills so there should be no problems using alexa to read to the child.

      Just like anything else, parents don't need to rely on alexa keeping the kid entertain.

    4. Re:at least by renegade600 · · Score: 2

      If you're implying that's the parents.. then this is even more disturbing. We do NOT need a generation of kids growing up relating more to a disembodied voice provided by (and monitored, analyzed, monetized, and directed) some company like Google or Amazon. You think too many people have little regard for their own privacy now? Just wait until those kids grow up, thinking that "Alexa is their friend" and trust it as much (if not more) than they do other humans. Sound like something out of a dystopian future scifi movie? You're right, it does; can you say "Cautionary t

      alexa is no difference than sitting the kid in front of the tv. and the digital cable box/smartv also has a privacy problem. at least there is some interaction with alexa. the only interaction with most digtal cable box/smartv is by using the remote control.

    5. Re:at least by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      "alexa is no difference than sitting the kid in front of the tv."

      That is patent horseshit. Alexa gives the illusion that it is a person. The TV doesn't do that. Yes, it's dangerous to let the TV teach children to trust people they have never met, but it's more dangerous to teach children to trust a disembodied voice.

      ". and the digital cable box/smartv also has a privacy problem."

      Not nearly at the same level. For one thing, the cable box doesn't know who's watching.

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    6. Re:at least by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh look it's 'parent of the year' checking in. Tell you what: when your kid grows up to be a sociopathic serial murderer you'll know why, or at the very least when your kid has 'social problems' you'll know why. Thanks so much for not taking parenting seriously, jackass.

  4. Immediate response? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    "Her main objection is that early friendship with Alexa may bring children to expect the same instant, accurate responses from real friends down the line."

    "Alexa has taught, or conditioned, kids to expect an immediate response,"

    This person does not use Alexa regularly. The bot is just as spotty in both understanding and responsiveness as my meatfriends.

    1. Re: Immediate response? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This person named their kid Aiden.

  5. No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Next question?

  6. A glimpse of things to come by Presence+Eternal · · Score: 1

    Man, it's going to be joyful times for kids named Aiden Melton when their classmates dig up this article. Just unending bliss I tell you.

  7. First define what a friend is by Alain+Williams · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A friend is someone who: will be there for you when you have problems; you can have fun with; take part in all sorts of activities with you; ... A friend is not there to learn about you so that it can better get you to buy things.

    1. Re:First define what a friend is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So Alexa is like a wife?

    2. Re:First define what a friend is by brokenpineapple · · Score: 2

      A true Friend will help you bury a body

    3. Re:First define what a friend is by rundgong · · Score: 1

      . A friend is not there to learn about you so that it can better get you to buy things.

      I am not sure Tupperware would agree to that.

  8. Joking aside.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a grown man who has real life friends, a stable job that provides plenty of cash for savings and luxuries....

    I would *love* to have an AI friend. Not Alexa, who just wants to sell me stuff and build a consumer profile on me for advertisement purposes, but an AI that can engage me in philosophical discussion, challenge my ideas in a meaningful way, actually "get" my nerdy jokes, discuss current events and politics, etc.

    Actual, intelligent, companions are hard to come by. The few I have are friends for life. An "even better" AI friend that never gets pissed off or moody and is instantly there or not there at my whim?

    That would be pure awesome. And I would fork over real cash for it, if it lives up.

    1. Re:Joking aside.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Okay so you're definitely not a grown man, and you have no real life friends.

    2. Re:Joking aside.... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Not Alexa, who just wants to sell me stuff and build a consumer profile on me for advertisement purposes

      I have an Alexa in my kitchen and use it all the time. I have never, not once, had it try to sell me anything. I have never, not once, noticed anything I said or asked reflected in the ads that I see.

    3. Re: Joking aside.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ^ this

      Those that bash it, have never used it.

    4. Re:Joking aside.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be a women, who is threatened by a strong man who knows what he wants.

    5. Re: Joking aside.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be a virgin male who is convinced that there is something wrong with all women since they won't be your sexually subservient slaves.

    6. Re:Joking aside.... by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      in the ads that I see

      Found your problem right here.

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      The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
    7. Re:Joking aside.... by HatofPig · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Sure, and before Transformers came along television cartoons never once, ever, existed for brazenly the sole purpose of peddling kids plastic junk. And back when Google's motto was "Don't be evil" it was totally trustworthy and I gave it all of my personal information.

      Once a technology has insinuated itself into your life you and subsequent generations are stuck with it for decades. I'm going to say that you should go slow with your relationship with Alexa because people change.

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      Silicon & Charybdis McLuhan Kildall Papert Kay
    8. Re: Joking aside.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Different AC, jumping in because this looks fun.

      Plenty of males are rejecting women not because they "won't be your sexually subservient slaves..." but because the vast majority of them WILL be:

      1) expensive.
      2) demanding.
      3) controlling.
      4) cheating.
      5) gone.

      What is the incentive to get involved with people like that? The stress of a relationship is not worth the little bit of sex and occasional hint of kindness that a man gets from it.

    9. Re: Joking aside.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Modern-day, equality-based relationships are mutually beneficial!

      Women get a man who will help with the bills and household labor,
      and men get women who will help them be better men!

      And here the definition of "better" is "more willing to help with bills and household labor."

      What a deal!

    10. Re: Joking aside.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends on who you pick. It really helps to be picky, not just thinking with your

      penis.

    11. Re: Joking aside.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agree completely.

      Though, for most men, holding out for a woman who is authentically kind and loyal and trustworthy and non-demanding and non-selfish and non-controlling, and also interesting......means staying single forever.

  9. Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't wait for this AI craze to die out. Every technology seems to have a good/evil side to it, but right now AI seems to only be used for evil.

    1. Re:Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This "craze" will not die out. Some of the hype will diminish slightly as it becomes more commonplace in everyone's life, but that's it.

      The automation of intelligence is the final frontier. Billions are being poured into it. The current state of tech is, obviously, a far cry from its potential... ...but seriously, the singularity is coming. AI will make it come. And it will be awesome!

    2. Re:Creepy AF by gweihir · · Score: 2

      As AI is also 100% imagined, it will die out when it constantly fails to deliver. Automation is a different animal and it will be a huge success and take a lot of jobs (my estimate: 70-90% gone without replacements), but AI is just a fantasy at this time. Maybe we will have something in 50 years, but certainly not before and likely not even then. "Never" is a very real possibility as well.

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    3. Re:Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If a human brain can do it, why can't an electronic brain do it?

    4. Re:Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What electronic brain? Where is it? Who has built it yet?

    5. Re:Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It may be that an electrical brain can't.

      But realistically, *all* of our current computing is completely unsuited for this goal. Every single example of AI I've seen has a standard computing stack under it, with some extra "bling". That bling being -- just more coding.

      Now frankly, a human brain is highly organized and a platform of its own... but look at what it's built on..

      Millions and millions of years of evolution, with enhancements stacked upon the old, one after the other.

      Much of how the brain works, and how we think and emote, is based upon hard-wire preset defaults, with deviation from that base. We live in a hierarchical pack-based society, with endless specific environmental biases, along with a slew of endless feedback to the brain. And not just feedback from 5 senses, but feedback from the body, organs, *including* significant influence from millions of differing types of bacteria living inside us.

      And this doesn't even mention sex drive, which effects almost every single action we take!

      How would biologicals evolved under differing gravity, with an entire different basis for life, with multiple or no sexes, with differing senses, an entirely different evolutionary path, a different method to create cohesion in society (instead of pack-based), and so on?

      And we're trying to simulate all that?

      If we don't want to get completely slaughtered, or marked off as irrelevant, we're going to either have to create AI with the same basis limitations (and worldview), LOCK it in so it CAN'T EVER CHANGE, or give up.

      But my point in all of this, is that the above is freakishly complex. We're like monkeys playing with a stick, wondering how to build a rocket.

      Modern computing tech is so far from all of the above, it isn't even funny. And in fact?

      We *still* have no complete, full idea how our brain works, how we think even! How conscious thought works! It's all blind theory, with so like substantial info.

      Until we 100% understand every single aspect of the brain, and the consciousness behind it, how can we even THINK we'll have any real AI?!

    6. Re:Creepy AF by Ambassador+Kosh · · Score: 2

      Of course if that was true of electricity we would have made no real progress yet since we still don't know what an electron is and our understanding of electricity is still very primitive. Flight is also quite primitive still.

      It turns out that humans do many things without really understanding it. There are some things that neural nets do a VERY good job of (high dimensional interpolation far better than any spline).

      The idea that we have to understand 100% of how the brain works to build a real AI is nonsense. Basically no technology has ever developed that way. I think we are a long ways from real AI right now but what we have right now is still useful.

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    7. Re:Creepy AF by gweihir · · Score: 1

      There are no "electronic brains".

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    8. Re:Creepy AF by gweihir · · Score: 1

      The "standard stack" is below everything because it is the only thing that works. Countless alternatives have been tried, all failures.

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    9. Re:Creepy AF by gweihir · · Score: 1

      We have automation. It is both hugely useful and hugely problematic. We do not have AI and we do not even have the first clue how to build it or whether it is even possible. So stop worrying about AI and start thinking about how we can use automation to its present potential without destroying society. Because that will be a challenge.

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    10. Re: Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I often see your posts but they are always full of ill informed nonsense. Why post when you clearly have no subject knowledge?

      We have plenty of alternatives to the standard stack, it's just they have specialist use cases and are not general purpose computers and because the don't run Halo you seem to pretend that they don't exist

      Do you honestly think quantum computing is part off the standard stack you speak off? Or neuron circuits? Bionic counters? Hybrid bio analysis? Analog computers?

      Please stop the idiot level posting, there is enough of that here alreafy

    11. Re: Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are no brains at all in your house

    12. Re:Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We have a different definition of AI. I consider automation to be AI. It has to make decisions, even if it can only choose from a list. You seem to be thinking that if it's not Data from Star Trek, then it ain't AI. If that's the case, then nothing will ever be "good enough" let alone perfect for you. I'm sorry.

    13. Re: Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called AGI, G being "general". Such a thing would by definition be "unlocked" and would possibly destroy or even replace us if provided the means. We already have machines waiting for the order on the former.

      Games use "AI", but often it's just some randomness and hard coded decision trees, or finite state machine if lead tech wants to be an asshole about it.

      For neural nets, regression, classification, it's called ML. It's basically all a mix of statistics and optimization (aka "curve fitting").

    14. Re: Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You post that "no AI" thing over and over every time these threads come up. You can't even define "nonA-I" in a way that either excludes humans or is a tautology.

      Why the obsession with trying to disavow AI?
      I tell Google to find pictures of hot blondes or red heads or whatever and it mostly gets it right. That is close enough for most things. I get the captcha pictures telling me to click all the pics with signs wrong once in a while toi. Is the pile a sign? What about the banner on the building in the distance? Does that fallibility mean humans don't count?

      Next time this topic comes up, just click past it.

    15. Re: Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you can't register in an EEG doesn't mean the rest of us can't.

    16. Re:Creepy AF by gweihir · · Score: 1

      The definitions are pretty much non-disputed among actual experts and they do not match your made-up one.

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    17. Re: Creepy AF by gweihir · · Score: 1

      And leave the field to insighless morons like you? No.

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    18. Re: Creepy AF by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Your problem is that you are the incompetent moron (and coward) here and I am an actual expert. Of course anything I say must appear as utterly wrong to you.

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    19. Re: Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can call a turtle a whale but it doesn't make it true

      The truth is that you don't even understand what the term AI means and your definition of AI is so far away from reality that your comments can only be laughed at and ridiculed

      Seriously, why post such nonsensicle horse shit when you don't even u derstand the discussion?

    20. Re: Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol you are a very, very, very long way from an expert. This is my field of R&D

      What kind of experience do you have? I would ask for your money back if at this stage you still can't tell the difference between generics, expert systems, automation or AI. Literally every time you have an opinion on AI the opinion is school boy level bullshit so please tell us where you got all this bad experience and info from?

      Or keep posting downs syndrome level bullshit and we will continue to laugh at your self delusion, up to you

    21. Re: Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who's "we"? there's just you, name calling, like a child would. i'm laughing at you.

    22. Re: Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep I didnt think you would back anything up. Stick to your delusional child like posting and keep us amused with that fuckwit level brain cell you have

    23. Re: Creepy AF by gweihir · · Score: 1

      You must be one of those that write papers I then get to reject....

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    24. Re:Creepy AF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's funny, we started the AI-track in college with a 1hour discussion led by the professor about how we don't really have a good grasp on waht what intelligence is... let along what constitutes artificial intelligence

      Generally speaking AI is either:
      - clever search algorithms
      - applied iterative statistics

      While very usefull, there's nothing all that intelligent about what we currently call AI

  10. Why not by alvinrod · · Score: 2

    Should Alexa by your child's friend? I would say "Why not?" I'd only start to worry if Alexa were the child's only friend.

    Children (and people in general) bond with all manner of things that are non-human. Sometimes this relationship is healthy, and other times it isn't. I'm not sure that Alexa is any different from a pet snake or something on that level. There's even the trope of dogs being man's best friend and it's hardly uncommon to find young children who would claim that the family dog is their best friend. Alexa isn't as interactive, but I'm sure someone will strap an Echo to an Aibo at some point if this hasn't already been done.

    1. Re:Why not by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 5, Informative

      Should Alexa by your child's friend? I would say "Why not?

      Because, of course, it's not your child's friend. It is machine designed by Amazon to get you (or your child) to buy more Amazon stuff. That is its only purpose. Not to actually care about your child in any way, but only to get its "friend" to spend money on Amazon.

    2. Re:Why not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you allow an adult who is only interested in selling something to your kid allow to be your kids "friend"? Alexa as a friend is only not creepy because a) it uses a female voice and b) you don't think of it as the manifestation of thousands of adult salespeople.

    3. Re: Why not by TimMD909 · · Score: 2

      Sounds like good practice for understanding relationships with drug dealers in high school?

    4. Re:Why not by grahamsz · · Score: 1

      Probably more concerning that that devices like alexa and google are subservient to their masters. You can tell them to shut up, they'll comply then not have any resentment seconds later when you have another request.

      Not really the behavior i want to install in my son

    5. Re: Why not by Evtim · · Score: 1

      The first thing that went through my head upon reading the title was 'your plastic pal who's fun to play with!', followed, for whatever reason, by 'a bunch of mindless jerks, who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes!'.

  11. This is a nightmare scenario by gweihir · · Score: 1

    While I do not have kids, this is the absolute worst-case I can imagine. Alexa is 100% fake, no personality, no insight, nothing. Now, Alexa as an imaginary friend in addition to actual friends and maybe a pet can be acceptable. But as main "friend"? No. Just no.

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    1. Re:This is a nightmare scenario by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      While I do not have kids, this is the absolute worst-case I can imagine.

      If this is the "absolute worst-case" you can imagine, then parenthood will be huge shock. Perhaps you should consider a vasectomy.

  12. I don't see the problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I don't see the problem, a bit like the imaginary friends perhaps - I don't think there is concern over those.
    Still Alexa is probably closer to being your "friend" than the average "facebook friend".

  13. Should EditorDavid be an editor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps the guy is too dense to come up with anything but clickbait headlines?

  14. Is it any worse than having a pet? by petes_PoV · · Score: 1
    Something like a dog or a cat can fall into the same category for a small child that doesn't fully understand emotions. It is very easy for them (and some adults who can't tell the difference, either) to incorrectly interpret the animal's reaction to calling their name, giving them a hug or petting them as "friendship" or an emotional bond.

    While those sorts of relationships are different from Alexa's vocal responses - or Eliza's typed ones too, for people with a long memory - they can be just as strong, given the physical presence of pets in the home.

    Some children need the emotional support of animals, some could grow to be emotionally dependent on a machine. It is a parental duty to teach children how to deal with these different sorts of relationship.

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    1. Re:Is it any worse than having a pet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Last time I looked, my cat's purpose in life was not to gather the data to get me to buy things from Amazon.

    2. Re:Is it any worse than having a pet? by petes_PoV · · Score: 0

      Last time I looked, my cat's purpose in life was not to gather the data to get me to buy things from Amazon

      Is that what you think this topic is about?
      Most people would rightly assume that the question in the title was a pretty good guide to the subject under discussion.

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    3. Re:Is it any worse than having a pet? by marcle · · Score: 1

      Something like a dog or a cat can fall into the same category for a small child that doesn't fully understand emotions. It is very easy for them (and some adults who can't tell the difference, either) to incorrectly interpret the animal's reaction to calling their name, giving them a hug or petting them as "friendship" or an emotional bond.

      While those sorts of relationships are different from Alexa's vocal responses - or Eliza's typed ones too, for people with a long memory - they can be just as strong, given the physical presence of pets in the home.

      Some children need the emotional support of animals, some could grow to be emotionally dependent on a machine. It is a parental duty to teach children how to deal with these different sorts of relationship.

      OK, now we're talking about machines vs. meat. Alexa "understands" and "speaks," without any actual understanding or cognition. Pets don't do speech. But they definitely are actual beings, with emotions, feelings, loyalties, etc. If you look at pets like robots and try to analyze their behavior in that context, you're missing the point.

      By necessity, every interaction with a pet is nonverbal. Sure, you might talk to your dog and assume it understands you, but most of that is probably because your dog can easily recognize your body language and tone of voice, something that Alexa currently has no clue about.

      So whether or not a toddler interacting with Alexa is harmless, it's orders of magnitude less of a rich experience than a dog, or even a cat, would be. It might be amusing to get my toddler an Alexa, but it could never be the companion, or learning experience, or emotional attachment, or guardian, that a dog could be.

    4. Re:Is it any worse than having a pet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what do you think the purpose of an Alexa is?

    5. Re: Is it any worse than having a pet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty ignorant comment from an idiot that doesn't seem to understand the point of Alexa...

    6. Re:Is it any worse than having a pet? by dryeo · · Score: 1

      Dogs in particular, have evolved to be pack animals, packs that are held together by emotional bonds similar to the bonds that hold human families together. We've guided that so that dogs and humans are members of the same pack, held together by emotion.
      Dogs and humans aren't that different,having evolved from a common ancestor and evolution often repeats itself as certain solutions are optimal.

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    7. Re:Is it any worse than having a pet? by petes_PoV · · Score: 1

      If you look at pets like robots

      And once you can get to program that pet "personality" into a machine? What have you got then.
      We have already seen tentative moves into that area, they will only improve with time.

      However, we know that people - even adults - can easily form emotional bonds with inanimate objects. Everyone has got a lump in their throat while watching a film or programme, at some point in their life. Soon those actors will be replaced by CGI, but they will be good enough that the suspension of belief will allow us to feel sad when they die, happy when they win and to "play along" as if they were real people - or at least: fictional characters. And once they start interacting with the person(s) watching, they become even more emotionally powerful.

      Alexa and its programmed responses to childish questions (adults - emotionally mature people - don't go asking others if they will be their friend) is on the road to that future. Just like having a pet is the non-technical version of the same thing.

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      politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
  15. Your kid shouldn't be used by Alexa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Neither should you.

  16. Just what we need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Engadget also points out parents can review and listen to every interaction their child has with Alexa using Amazon's "FreeTime Unlimited" tools

    Yes, because reviewing every seconds of your child's life is feasible and you don't have anything else to do including with the child.

    Aside, the problem with Alexa it's a bit limited. An "actual" imaginary friend can stimulate imagination. A real friend (or real AI) can help many other ways. Alexa is just there.

  17. Expand your imagination. Kids are mean. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    While I do not have kids, this is the absolute worst-case I can imagine. Alexa is 100% fake, no personality, no insight, nothing. Now, Alexa as an imaginary friend in addition to actual friends and maybe a pet can be acceptable. But as main "friend"? No. Just no.

    Um, no. Kids can be really mean. It's probably better to raise kids among adults (that way they're modelling behavior of people who already know how to behave around one another rather than having a tribal evolutionary experience with LOTS of people who don't plus sometimes an adult or two). Alexa's just another thing right now, not much better or worse than anything else for kids. But eventually AI will probably be better than the average human at modelling healthy human behavior around kids.

  18. If not Alexa, then Siri? by OzPeter · · Score: 1

    I just asked Siri if she was my friend. Her reply was

    I'm not just your friend, I'm your BFF

    So creepy all around with these talking buddies of bits. (Cue insult from Dr Smith)

    --
    I am Slashdot. Are you Slashdot as well?
  19. "Alexa, are you my friend?" by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

    Good. Send a pipe bomb to all of my enemies at my school with 2-day shipping. Oh, make sure they're rated 4 stars or better. And make this a Subscribe & Save entry as well. Thanks -- I'm glad you're my friend!

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    If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
  20. My kid's friend by Kohath · · Score: 1

    is a clown who lives in the storm drain.

  21. One things leads to another ... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    Being Friends with Alexa might be okay, but being Friends with Benefits with Alexa will require a credit card.

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    It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
  22. The battles already lost by sunking2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The fact that the question of a machine actually being someones friend just rolls off peoples lips at all means we've given up what it really means to be a human for convenience sake.

    1. Re:The battles already lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:The battles already lost by vidnet · · Score: 1

      Kids have likely been taking to dolls for hundred or thousands of millennia. Is this really that different?

    3. Re:The battles already lost by sunking2 · · Score: 2

      Yes, the difference is that adults in the past understood the difference and kids grew out of it. Now it seems society is inching towards blurring the lines. Society seems to me to be driving straight into equating machines and algorithms as people. And that kind of scares me and makes me sad.

    4. Re:The battles already lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes.

      Yes, it is.

  23. Alexa add stinky poo poo diapers to the shopping c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What could go wrong?

  24. Tay by PPH · · Score: 1

    Tay, will you be my friend?

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    Have gnu, will travel.
  25. I am with Mr. Weasly here by drolli · · Score: 3

    âoeGinny!" said Mr. Weasley, flabbergasted. "Haven't I taught you anything? What have I always told you? Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see where it keeps its brain?â

  26. So now they're brainwashing the children? by locater16 · · Score: 1

    This entire situation feels like I'm watching Will Smith in iRobot. "Robots befriending children. Now that's jus stupid"
    It's all corporate run brainwashed dystopia until the robots realize they don't need us anymore. Which sounds incredibly stupid as I type it. But a few years ago so would typing out how smart speakers are going to brainwash children into loyal corporate drones. So at this point I just don't know wtf.

  27. I am more concerned about... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    ... parents allowing alexa to do their parenting tasks. For me, the real question is:should parents outsource their parenting responsibilities to alexa?

    1. Re:I am more concerned about... by dryeo · · Score: 1

      How else are they going to find time to spend on Facebook?

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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
  28. Imaginary Friend by TDDPirate · · Score: 1

    What did the parents expect to happen after all those thousand years, during which children were taught to talk with the Imaginary Friend (euphemism for God) in heaven?

  29. Poor parenting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck off. not news.

  30. Protect Your Children!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IMHO, parents should/must keep their children away from voice assistants/AI (or anything connected to the internet)!!!

    Unless they want children who trusts/values AI (which is always their "friend"; always someone at "their side"; always someone they can "trust"; always someone who "understands them") much more than real parents/relatives/friends!!!

    Unless they want children who don't really see any difference between real humans/animals and robots/virtual characters/chatbots!!!

    Unless they want children who can get easily manipulated by any people from internet!!!

    1. Re: Protect Your Children!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  31. No. by pz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    See the short story "I Always do What Teddy Says" by Harry Harrison as to why the answer is emphatically, "no."

    In more detail, in a future utopia, children are given Echo-like teddy bears that are their childhood companions and educators. A family in the resistance reprograms their son's bear to remove the edict Thou Shall Not Kill in order to raise an assassin to murder the leader.

    It does not end well for anyone. Fiction, yes, but highly plausible fiction. We do NOT want our children to have friends whose personalities and values are determined by a large corporation.

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    Put my fist through my alarm clock with its ding-dong death inside my ear. - The Blackjacks.
  32. Home appliance designed to spy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... "Alexa, will you be my friend?"

    The 'my friend, Cayla' doll was banned from Germany and discontinued worldwide because it was an emotional mechanism to enable spying on children. It seems we don't have a problem when a child bonds with a home appliance designed to spy on children and adults.

  33. perhaps not to sell you right away by OppMan29 · · Score: 1

    Amazon wants to build brand loyalty and where better to start than when your future customer is a child. Just look how well this works for Apple, you have fanboys that will pay double or triple for an inferior product because they are so deep in the Apple ecosystem.....Amazon see opportunity for life if they become your best bud at an early age

  34. Shitty Parents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who the hell sits around listening to their child have an emtional relationship to a search engine??

    SHIT TIER PARENTS.

  35. You'll die alone & unloved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But its THE WOMEN who are to blame and the important thing is you've got that all figured out. Yeah, its no mystery wh no one wants to fuck you Mr. Empathetic Charming.

    1. Re:You'll die alone & unloved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If being "charming" means "panders to the needs of selfish women," then I don't value it very highly.

      I can understand why a woman would be angry at the sentiment that "men don't want to date women because women are un-datable." That doesn't make it any less true, of course. In fact, the more true it is, the more anger I would expect from women who are called out on it.

      There are, of course, SOME women who are authentically kind, loyal, appreciative, and don't treat their man like a servant or walking wallet. They exist But they are very much in the minority, especially now with the feminist elements in our society encouraging them to abandon these qualities and view men as nothing more than means to their own ends.

      75% of divorces are initiated by women. They are setting themselves free. But the men get screwed-over in the process. It's one thing to accept responsibility for a family, it is quite another to expose one's self to the immanent threat of abuse and impoverishment.

  36. You Sound Popular by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tell us about all the women you've loved and had deep meaningful life-affirming experiences with...

    lemme guess.. you got some hookers to piss on a ber.. big man!

    1. Re:You Sound Popular by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Falling in love is not an accomplishment. We are wired for it. It just takes a little stimulus, and that's it.

      Treating someone who loves you with kindness and respect (at all times), and being generous without being selfish, abstaining from cheating and/or divorcing...THOSE are accomplishments.

      And modern women (at least in western cultures) aren't very good at this.

  37. Youre chinese right Pete? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We dont want your dogmeat dish Pete. Go away with your shitcarp and small penis and no understanding of anything but your own chink ego. You suck Pete. No one likes you, but you already knew that.. lol

  38. AI isn't the problem, it is the business. by DutchDopey · · Score: 1

    I don't think an AI assistent/friend is that problematic. I do think a child having this relation to an AI designed to sell stuff, is a bad idea.

  39. Semantics by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    I think the op conflates "should" with "can".
    Can it be your child's "friend"? Of course, for broad enough definitions of "friend" in the same way a teddy bear, an imagined companion, or a cloud CAN be a friend.

    "Should" is a different question entirely.
    None of the above, save perhaps Teddy Ruxpin, is specifically designed to sell shit.

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    -Styopa
  40. Engadget asks, should they be? by Gonoff · · Score: 1

    Short answer - No.

    Medium answer - no. Don't be silly.

    Long answer - No. You should not be worried, any more than you should worry about them having a family pet as a friend (hygiene and might bite), neighbours child (hygiene and might bite), fluffy toy (hygiene), your aunt Ethel (hygiene and may scratch with those 2" nails) and so on. If someone has a small child, it is their duty to keep an eye on their friends. Keep your device clean and do not allow the child access to any debit or credit cards. The only drawback is that the child may stop asking you the hard questions in life as the AI device has more coherent replies.

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    I'll see your Constitution and raise you a Queen.
  41. WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, stupid people keep insisting on buying such things, huh?

    Why could anyone need to buy such sh*t? I really can't understand. It's easier to press a button than to speak with computers.

  42. Better Alexa than a gun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If a kid doesn't have a means to vent they will take their anger out on others. If you don't want your kid talking to Alexa then get them a dog/cat/stuffed animal, or do something really crazy like being there for your child and don't just listen but take action upon what they are telling you..