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Amazon Warehouse Collapse in Baltimore Leaves Two Dead (engadget.com)
An anonymous reader quotes Engadget:
Amazon is grappling with tragedy at one of its warehouses this weekend. A 50-foot wall at the company's southeast Baltimore fulfillment center collapsed on the night of November 2nd in the midst of a large storm, killing two people. They worked for an external company, an Amazon official told the Baltimore Sun... The storm was a particularly violent one that had torn roofs off apartment buildings and collapsed a ceiling at a TJ Maxx store, injuring three people. Amazon was caught up in extreme weather that unfortunately led to fatalities.
...so the supervisor placed an Amazon Prime order and a robot brought a couple of them and some cleaning supplies.
The summary makes a big point that they were contractors (working for a 3rd party) and not Amazon employees. Why does that matter?
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Well that's the last time I order a "like new" warehouse support beam. ;)
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I hope they weren’t in the middle of grabbing something to ship off to ME...” thought roughly half of Amazon’s customers in response to hearing about this.
Because, you know, if Amazon customers gave a fuck about anyone but themselves they likely would not BE Amazon.com customers... not saying... just saying.
It seemed sad. Dude was a holiday temp tryna make some loot for Christmas. Fell into some kind of machine and got squished. Sad. But it turned out he was blazed out of his gourd on drugs. Amazon wasn't at fault.
I don't mean this was the fault of the workers. Quite the contrary. If conditions outside are such that it's barely safe for emergency crews, then an employer who is not involved directly in health and safety has no business calling its employees in to work. Now two people are dead because the warehouse couldn't deal with hunkering down for a storm.
I could see keeping a Wal-Mart open under such conditions. People may need things desperately, and people might need a place to shelter if things get really bad. But there is nothing that warehouse could do to help the situation right that moment, and it should have been left to a skeleton crew of security guards who can hunker down wherever they feel safe -- NOT try to work through the storm.
How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
How will we live without it??
Watch out for that roof!
Who here saw the headline and thought it was some substandard working conditions, and weren't the least bit surprised cause that would totally fit for Amazon?
I was actually more surprised it was due to weather.
Companies hire contractors specifically for cases like this. It's why it's cheaper to hire a contractor even when you're paying a contractor agency for the privilege. The lack of these kinds of benefits is why workers needed Unions. If the employees had families they're probably not only grieving but trying to figure out what they're gonna do with one less breadwinner. A worker's comp payout would at least delay that, maybe long enough to figure out what to do next.
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Good God, I bet you're fun at parties. Well, Democratic SJW ones from what I understand, anyway.
Hopefully you're just a troll; I'd hate to think that someone actually believes that. Keep working at growing up, you can still make it someday.
Agreed. That was what our warehouse did in situations like that, especially since we're in Tornado alley.
thats the whole point of building codes, knowing what level of storm a building can survive.
That really sucks. Amazon delivery keeps getting suckier with every passing month. This is just par for the course.
Has Trump publicly lied about it 5 times in a row on tape yet? NO? Then... gee, he probably hasn't heard about it yet, one must assume. I wouldn't be surprised if some unrelated minority gets blamed by him, sure. Ethiopians?
It would be less crazy than some of his other shit, let's be real.. dumbest traitor ever.
Amazon: "Thoughts and prayers"
Well that makes it all better then. Nothing to see here, folks. Case closed.
In a world of the blind, the one-eyed man is king--and the two-eyed man is a heretic.
Who said they were working?
every job i worked never quit over weather. unless its a tornado.
The usual knee-jerk reaction to prevent future warehouse wall collapses would be to outlaw warehouses and emotionally double-down by getting people to believe it's to save the lives of children. Works every time.
It has way more important problems than some freak accident that is highly unlikely to happen again.
See how useless building codes are? So many tax dollars violently stolen from amazon and still 2 more people now dead, all by goverment incompitence.
https://www.usatoday.com/story...
It has way more important problems than some freak accident that is highly unlikely to happen again.
Problem solving steps.
1. Define the problem correctly. This is important, since you need a solution that does more than reduce one narrow case of gun crimes.
2. Take no possible solutions off the table initially. Republicans, for instance, automatically take any solution off the table limiting gun availability.
3. Find the solution or combination of solutions that best mitigate the problem for least cost. Republicans often say, well that wouldn't work in this case, completely missing the point, or, far more likely, deliberately pretending they are too stupid to see the bigger picture. Solve the right problem, which is getting the most reduction in gun deaths period.
It was a line of thunderstorms that also spawned a few tornadoes. Maryland doesn't usually get tornadoes. You don't close down your business for a cold front with some severe storms. There were forecasts for thunderstorms, but thats normal for autumn. These were unusually severe thunderstorms for the area. You don't close down everything because a cold front is coming through...nothing would ever get done.
Unless the ones making the jokes knew the people personally, they're not "coping" with anything. They're just opportunists.
Why would there be a 50 foot border wall there, its nowhere close to Mexico.
Limiting guns clearly does nothing. Chicago is right there on the list and guns are already all but impossible to have there. Everyone still has them though (illegally of course). Limiting guns only limits LEGAL gunowners who will abide by laws. It does nothing for the people who will be using them for murder.
It's easier to have this discussion if you admit that you hate/are scared of guns and merely want to limit them. The actual solution has nothing to do with guns or gun control. Fix education, mental healthcare, and the job situation of the affected areas first and I'd bet real money you'll see all of that drop immensely. Those areas have the highest murder rates largely because of gangs killing each other and committing crimes. Fix the issues with gangs and 80-90% of your trouble is gone.
There was an EF-1 Tornado powerful enough to take off roofs..... everyone ought to have evacuated when a warning sounded to a structurally sound room --- makes you wonder what kind of operation Amazon is running there...
no emergency preparedness?
and the smaller contractor company can just fold and re-incorporate and walk away scot-free. It's the employee equivalent of the "layering" step in money laundering. You distance yourself from the bad things your company does.
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In a lot of jurisdictions the company is responsible for carrying insurance to pay out these claims, but they have the "option" of not carrying the insurance provided they pay all claims as specified by the law out of pocket. That's why folding the contracting company works.
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Limiting guns clearly does nothing. Chicago is right there on the list and guns are already all but impossible to have there.
Nice ad hominem. Whether or not guns scare me is irrelevant. It is not the problem on the table.
Overall, your response is a textbook example of what I said. Limiting guns in chicago is obviously going to have a limited impact because of well cars.
Limiting guns and ammo in the entire united states would have an effect, though given the existing quantity, it might take awhile to happen. Yes, you can do the things you mentioned, but by removing guns from the table well that just makes You a part of the problem, since your ignoring solutions because you don't like the solution, and what is worst is your using completely dishonest attacks to do so.
Limiting guns does work in every other development country that has done it. To believe America is an exception to that, is to believe in well bullshit, but given the republican party, that is part for the course.
Now if you want to be honest and say, yea, I know it would probably work, but you value gun freedom more than dead kids, well then I'd have a tiny amount of respect for you.
I'm not employed by Amazon, but if one of their buildings drops a wall on me, you better believe I'm suing.
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Wow, someone is actually using the "won't someone think of the children" argument? So discredited, so appeal to emotion.
Wow, someone is actually using the "won't someone think of the children" argument? So discredited, so appeal to emotion.
Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually. In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons), and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons).
Okay if the school shootings don't bother you, and it seems they don't, how about the adults. Also, think of the children, is a valid concern, if the problem affects children, as the children, will, hopefully grow up, I'm pretty sure the problem does affect them.
I guess it all depends on what you consider an acceptable tradeoff. Clearly you consider it better for another 30 thousand people's lives to be lost a year than to consider any actual gun laws.. Fair enough. You have stated what you value.
along with crime in general. Meanwhile fatal workplace accidents are increasing.
As long as there is murder there will be a city with the highest murder rates. The question is are we doing everything we can to stop murder? Of course not. We could legalize drugs tomorrow, treat the hard stuff as a medical problem and massively cut back on murder. But just because we're not doing everything we can to stop murder doesn't mean we should ignore or even de-prioritize workplace safety.
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Limiting guns in the other countries, at the levels they are limited, didn't require actual civil wars, which is what would be required here. Your plan to reduce gun deaths would require that people get shot.
This isn't an accident, it's a regulatory failure. If you want to do business in Maryland you have to be willing to game the system.
Years ago my mother had her childcare business shut down for nearly two months. The Maryland Child Care Administration had ordered her to replace the standard deadbolt with a lock keyed on both sides. They didn't want an intruder to be able to break through the glass and turn the lock. Then the fire marshal ordered her to remove the keyed deadbolt so people could exit quickly in a fire.
She ended up satisfying both agencies by gluing a key into the deadbolt.
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