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Childhood Obesity Linked To Air Pollution From Vehicles (theguardian.com)
Early exposure to air pollution from vehicles increases the risk of children becoming obese, new research has found. From a report: High levels of nitrogen dioxide, which is emitted by diesel engines, in the first year of life led to significantly faster weight gain later, the scientists found. Other pollutants produced by road traffic have also been linked to obesity in children by recent studies. Nitrogen dioxide pollution is at illegal levels in most urban areas in the UK and the government has lost three times in the high court over the inadequacy of its plans. The pollutant also plagues many cities in Europe and around the world. "We would urge parents to be mindful where their young children spend their time, especially considering if those areas are near major roads," said Jeniffer Kim, at the University of Southern California, who led the new research. "The first year of life is a period of rapid development of various systems in the body [and] may prime the body's future development." The World Health Organization (WHO) revealed last Monday that 90% of the world's children are breathing unsafe air, a situation described as "inexcusable" by the WHO's head. Concern over the impact of toxic air on children's health is rising as research reveals serious long-term damage to both their physical and mental health.
and eating too much. probably more the fault.
High Fructose Corn Syrup? Make since given the ethanol added.
I could swear that people are just looking at http://tylervigen.com/spurious... for ideas to make new headlines with.
Some days I get the sinking feeling Orwell was an optimist.
Pollution standards are far stricter than they used to be, so we should be seeing a decrease in obesity if this is such a major factor.
These are just environmental activists who are trying to exploit "intersectionality" with the well-publicised obesity epidemic, so as to promote their war on mankind's industrialisation.
You'll never convince mankind to tear down its hard-won development. Make better machines, or STFU.
https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-018-0409-7
No need to blame bad diet and lack of exercise. Now we know it's the fault of cars.
As a supporting anecdote. It turns out that if we eliminate cars and make the little fuckers walk to school, and everywhere else for that matter, they lose weight. Go figure!
when you can't get as much oxygen into your system you can't exercise as much. Cyclists (of which I am one) have known this for a long time.
I wish we could get the environmentalist crowd to stop banging on about shaving whales and talk more about stuff like this.
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Parents needed a new reason to be paranoid and overprotective. That's never been a bad thing.
On a serious note, I grew up in Pittsburgh. Prior the 1980s, the air was exceptionally unsafe. Since then, it's only been getting cleaner. What's the trend line for obesity look like? Spoiler: obesity is going up and up, while the air is cleaner than it's ever been for nearly 40 years. Therefore if bad air was thing, you'd expect the exact opposite.
Alarmist news reports over spurious correlations do not help people. They only make your average person lose trust in science. That's not particularly a good thing.
You cyclists are all the same.
Don't know whale shaving. You've clearly never tried it.
And I'll say it again: The best possible thing that could happen for both the planet AND human beings is for the price of oil to skyrocket. Would it cause an economic disaster? Probably. Would it be worth it? Without a single doubt.
"High levels of nitrogen dioxide, which is emitted by diesel engines".....and oil furnaces (because they use the same fuel)
https://www3.epa.gov/ttnchie1/ap42/ch01/final/c01s03.pdf
sunspots have risen too.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
But that is too obvious, lets blame the big CO2 monster!
...Obesity is going up and up, while the air is cleaner than it's ever been for nearly 40 years. Therefore if bad air was thing, you'd expect the exact opposite.
My two cents:
The subjects are ingesting more calories than their bodies need. That's why they become obese. It's that simple.
Maybe it's the TV, or tablets/smartphones, or game consoles...I am not quite sure. But what I am pretty sure about is this...
Once one takes in more calories than the body needs, the [human] body stores any extra calories as fat. This fat is what we see and draw the conclusion that one is obese.
Let anyone challenge me on this.
Hypothesis: It's due to people consuming that crap
cuz you know... thin people got killed in the war, so their thin genes are not in the pool anymore and are replaced with fat people that can't go to war and use the m4...
Nitrogen oxide formation is not dependent on the fuel, but on the combustion process. The nitrogen and oxygen come from the air. Any combustion produces some level of NOx. The leaner and hotter, the combustion, the more you get, independent of fuel.
The more cars are around, the less children are walking.
When a child has to walk or bike to school it is less likely to be obese than when it's driven by soccer mom in her SUV.
studies show people who fart directly into your mouth are more likely to win the lottery
especially if its a big wet fart that splatters all over your big fat lips
Guess there are no Fat kids outside of Cities. wow.... this shouldn't even be on this site. its like saying typing on your keyboard has been linked to D*ck Shrinkage. lol
Europe has a fascination with diesel due to taxation benefits. There's a lot more diesel used in Europe vs USA. Yet US kids are fatter.
I advise all my children not to eat anything that comes out of the exhaust pipe of a car.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
It is also not hard to think of likely causal connections either: areas with high air pollution are either likely to be poorer and/or have more traffic which will mean less playing outside and fewer trips to the grocery store making processed foods with longer shelf lives more appealing than fresh produce. I wish journals would remember that correlation != causation and refuse to publish crap like this without actual evidence of cause.
In first world countries these "scientists" might think this is plausible but as soon as you include a bunch of third world countries this is BS.
You can go to highly polluted cities in third world counties and guess what, the vast majority of all people are skinny. You can go to the countryside both polluted and not polluted and guess what, most people are skinny.
And these people could over-indulge on food if they wanted to, they just don't.
No, the answer is social acceptance (how "okay" is it to be fat in this society), behavior (binge eating on McDonalds is normal, for example), and what foods are being consumed (mayonnaise and cheeseburgers, vs short grain brown rice, sizzle peppers, and a small portion of steak, or millions of other comparisons).
How, exactly, do you know the correlation is random?
Did you bother to read any of the research, or perform any original thought?
Or is your reaction exactly as much of a mindless knee-jerk as it appears?
"Caused my poor little one to keep sticking that fork into his face. Even after he couldn't get out of bed. The smell of those trucks, was just too much for him!" LMMFAO! What passes for science these days. Ridiculous. ;-D
Sources of atmospheric nitrogen dioxide:
https://www3.epa.gov/region1/airquality/images/nox.gif
http://www.geoffreylandis.com
If that was really true Faux News viewers would be the fattest of the fat.
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You say things that offend me and I can deal with it. Can you?
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They're blaming nitrogen dioxide. Nitrogen dioxide is not CO2.
http://www.geoffreylandis.com
but at the end of the day bad air impacts your ability to exercise across the board.
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....because Nairobi street kids are famously obese?
"...The scientists took a series of other factors into account, including gender, ethnicity and parental education, and think it is unlikely that variations in diet could explain the strong link found...."
I'd suspect confounding factors like poverty, urbanization, and THOSE impacts on peoples' diets in the early years of life (or the diets of their nursing mothers) before I'd point a finger at the trucks driving by.
Don't get me wrong, I think early childhood development is probably stunted by particulates, NOx, etc *particularly* from diesel vehicles, but I think this study is merely finding correlation.
-Styopa
Scientists are losing their credibility with every report they put out.
I read giving kids sugary drinks counteracts the effect of nitrogen dioxide.
It's a pretty common observation that many kids don't get off their fat asses and go play outside anymore. When your gluttonously indulgent kid's face is stuck in a game or computer screen every free waking moment or else they can't stand to be alive or people can't stand to be around them then the result is fairly predictable.
People and kids are obese because our food supply has become contaminated with huge amounts of sugar and carbs. A huge number of American's are now diabetic as a result. The drug, foods, and medical corporations are all in cahoots on this. That there is no outcry from the government is in my opinion, because the corps are running the show.. https://www.cdc.gov/media/rele...
Have you fscked your local propeller head today?
But over and over again science is finding that people's decisions aren't really their own in this area (and others).
If anything we're still swinging too hard towards the Personal accountability direction. Other countries with more social safety and support networks consistently out score us on every metric (except number of billionaires, we're tops there). It's puritanicalism, and it's never worked. Any more than trickle down economics does.
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woah woah woah slow down you monster bigot! just because theres irrefutable evidence doesn't make it true!
Tell me how often you see kids in vehicles, with the WINDOWS DOWN. Probably almost never, because mommy is on the phone and doesn't want the noise LOL.
It appears they didn't actually check diet. Another thing, the closer you live to "convenient" roads and shops, the less exercise you may be likely to get. People in Japan and most of Europe seem much trimmer than Americans because they use public transportation more. With public transportation, you still have to walk the first and last mile (roughly) to get to and from the mode of transportation. They walk more, including children.
Table-ized A.I.
How about Universal Basic Food instead of UBI. You get an allocation of good healthy food for free. Any food you wish to purchase beyond your UBF is extremely expensive.
thats all folks
Yeah, science found that other people are forcing you to eat. Sure it did.
This article is crap. I've been to places where the diesel fumes in the air are only slightly less anoying than the smell of raw sewage and burning garbage. Places where the particulate count on a good day makes Los Angeles air seem absolutely pristine in comparison. This article would have us believe that their obesity rates should be off the charts, and yet the number of fat people I saw in any given day could be counted on the fingers of one hand. Why? People eat less, and exercise more. But that's not really their decision, right? It's all just fucking magic.
And not all those Big Macs you've been eating all day long while sitting in the same spot on your couch playing with your smartphone instead of doing actual exercise.
Many individual risk factors for BMI growth, such as asthma and other respiratory conditions, individual and neighborhood/community level socio-economic indicators, smoking (both personal and second hand smoke), and numerous built environment variables around the home and school, were also tested as confounders... final model was developed by including a set of basic design variables (race, ethnicity, gender, cohort of enrollment, and community) and any other additional confounders. Confounders were selected if they had a bivariate association with the outcome (p 0.2) and they changed the effect of interest – traffic density – by at least 10% in either of the gender specific effects at each buffer distance (i.e., 150, 300, and 500 m). ... Given what is known about the association between lower socioeconomic position and higher traffic exposures in California (Green, et al., 2004), some of the effects observed here may be confounded by dietary variables that are also associated with lower socioeconomic status, such as sugar and fats (Drewnowski, 2007). Our models did control extensively for socioeconomic status in the home and neighborhood, so although possible, it is unlikely that residual confounding relating to social status is present in the models. Finally, indicators of physical activity available to us for this cohort (participation in team sports and time spent outside) did not explain the effect of traffic,
Correlation does not indicate CAUSATION.
It's junk science like this that helps fuel the anti-science sentiment that's all too popular these days...
sedentary lifestyles cause obesity. You know, playing video games and watching tv all day, that causes obesity. in general, lack of exercise aka sedentary lifestyle!
Your anecdote about "how many fat people you see" are as moronic and worthless to as your everyday nazi faggot dance. You don't matter, your word means nothing. No one will ever use anything you say as a factor in any decision.
It's due to people consuming that crap
If that was really true Faux News viewers would be the fattest of the fat.
Yet CNN viewers like Michael Moore and Rosie Odonald run contrary to your theory... Imagine that...
In other news, studies have shown Dihydrogen Monoxide is a major contributor to bed wetting.
but exercise still helps, and being able to exercise better helps too.
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Might as well try to ban water because kids drown in it.
Have gnu, will travel.
Some places I visited in France (where most all cars on the road were Diesel) were... well gross. They are having big problems from the small particles in diesel exhaust and are moving to all gasoline engines in the near future (Why not electric? I think there industry is to far behind and missed out on rare earths.)
But anyway yeah lots and lots of Diesel cars and yet.... NO FAT PEOPLE.
We need more Pirates to stave off global warming!
I don't disagree with your premise. We have way too much convenient, easily accessible (and tasty!) food that has a lot of carbs and sugar in it.
What I have a problem with is the idea it's government's job to step in, playing the role of parent, to force people to make "better food choices" by punishing people offering the less healthy options that are so popular.
Heck, I know I eat way too much sugary and processed food, myself. But I wouldn't be happy at all if my government outlawed the stuff I'm buying or placed big restrictions (likely high taxes) on it. I know the reasons why I tend to choose these things, and a lot comes down to lack of free time. If you insist on only eating fresh foods, you run into the age-old problem that they don't keep well. Just try putting a tossed salad in the fridge for a couple of days and then take it back out to eat it. Doesn't look so appetizing anymore with the lettuce starting to turn brown around its edges, the tomatoes getting mushy, and water starting to seep out of the veggies and into a little pool at the bottom of the salad bowl. America doesn't really have a culture like some European countries where you can wake up, walk down the steps and outside, to buy some fresh bread or other items to make breakfast with from a street vendor right around the corner.
I even live in a fairly rural area where I can drive a few miles and stop by a fresh produce stand that one of the local farmers has set up. I occasionally get some ears or corn or what-not from them. But still, my work and family life is usually way too hectic for me to make time for that. Most of the time, I'm driving quickly past them to pick up a kid that had to stay late after class and can't get a bus ride home, or running to one of 4 offices to fix the latest computer or tech crisis one of them is having..... things like that.
To fix this, you'd really need a big cultural shift in America.... a change in attitude about what's expected of people in their daily work life and a change in the way people prefer to buy their groceries. Right now? It is what it is, so I just settle for eating healthy when it's viable and being thankful for the technology that allows frozen dinners and canned food that stays good until you're ready to eat it.
Not for long, thanks to that lovely Mr Farage. He's always so nicely turned out, isn't he?
We'll breathe whatever we want! Hydrogen chloride, benzene, ozone. That'll stick it to the barmy bureau belgocrats!
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Or is it that poorer people tend to buy cheaper housing that is closed to main roads and those same poor people have poor nutrition habits that they pass on to their children?
with multiple, often interlinking factors, resulting in a world where black and white determinations don't hold up under even a little scrutiny let alone scientific investigation...
Naw, little porkers just need to eat less, amiright?
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and I'm not alone. Also, smog days (if you don't know, these are days you're not supposed to go outside to play because the smog is bad enough to impact long term health) have been increasing, not decreasing.
We've lowered the rate at which things get worse, but we haven't stopped making them worse. I'll take that over doing nothing, but I'd kill for functional public transportation (and no, sacrificing 4 hours out of my day is not "function". I swear, buddy of mine was convinced there was a bus stop right outside our work. Two seconds on google later I showed him closest one was a brisk 10 minute walk away).
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Sugar was the a wonder food. Sugared cereals originated there. There were little or no diet drinks and no Atkins or Paleo diets. The big upswing in obesity started in the 80s.
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In a similar vein to the subject article, we've had evidence that "social deprivation" is responsible for obesity. Now social deprivation tends to mean poor housing, which collects around (among other place) city centres, roads and junctions and the like, polluted places. (If you can afford it, you live in the country, or overlooking a park or river). So there's a possible reverse causality for a correlation between obesity and pollution. There's far too much of this bad science based on misusing statistics.
was of some fat kid in the back seat of a car letting one rip so bad, you could see the windows vibrate.
Please note that it is _not_ the food industry producing over-sweetened products loaded with corn-based sweeteners and the side issue that the SAD (Standard American Diet) causes diabetics and consequently Alzheimer's!
So, blaming something else seems to do the trick!