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Amazon Plans To Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities, Report Says (wsj.com)

Amazon plans to split its second headquarters evenly between two locations rather than picking one city for HQ2, WSJ reported Monday, citing a person familiar with the matter, a surprise decision that will spread the impact of a massive new office across two communities. From the report: The driving force behind the decision to build two equal offices in addition to the company's headquarters in Seattle is recruiting enough tech talent, according to the person familiar with the company's plans. The move will also ease potential issues with housing, transit and other areas where adding tens of thousands of workers could cause problems. [...] The report, published Monday, did not specify the locations Amazon is exploring, but on Sunday, the newspaper had reported that the ecommerce giant was in late-stage discussions with Crystal City in Virginia, Dallas and New York City. [The aforementioned link may be paywalled; here's an alternative source.]

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  1. Why have one corporate handout by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    when you can have two? It's double the incentives.

  2. Re:paywalled by pci · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The paragraph summary is all the article says. It is all rumors at this point with three cities identified "Crystal City in Virginia, Dallas, and New York City"

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    Amazon.com Inc. AMZN -2.01% plans to split its second headquarters evenly between two locations rather than picking one city for HQ2, according to a person familiar with the matter, a surprise decision that will spread the impact of a massive new office across two communities.

    The driving force behind the decision to build two equal offices in addition to the company’s headquarters in Seattle is recruiting enough tech talent, according to the person familiar with the company’s plans. The move will also ease potential issues with housing, transit and other areas where adding tens of thousands of workers could cause problems.

    Under the new plan, Amazon would split the workforce with 25,000 employees in each city, the person said.

    Amazon is in advanced talks with multiple cities but hasn’t made a final decision on which two locations it will pick, according to people familiar with the matter. The Wall Street Journal on Sunday reported that Amazon was in late-stage discussions with Crystal City in Virginia, Dallas and New York City.

    A decision and announcement could come as soon as this week, according to people familiar with the matter. /end-article

  3. Brilliant! by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

    Then they can play the 2 cities against each other to maximize incentives/bribes!

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  4. New York City?!?!? by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

    Wouldn't that have the highest costs of any city they considered?

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    1. Re:New York City?!?!? by youngone · · Score: 2

      Amazon are looking for subsidies. The new HQ will go to the city that pays the most. The staff will receive the lowest amount of money Amazon can possibly pay them.
      Why would Amazon care if their staff are living in a cardboard box under a bridge?

    2. Re:New York City?!?!? by AvitarX · · Score: 2

      There's apartments where I live (Wilmington, DE) and they are mostly going to people that take the Amtrak daily (or at least quite frequently). It's quite surprising, but I guess it's worth 20k/year to some people for the commute.

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  5. Re:paywalled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They would have included that important information. The great thing about summarizing a story is that it is often difficult to come up with information that the source article does not have.

  6. Cerberus by Thelasko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I still don't understand how multiple headquarters is supposed to work. The purpose of a headquarters is to have a place to get ideas in front of the decision maker. Is Bezos going to spend a week each month at each location?

    If he isn't there, it isn't really headquarters. It sounds to me like a giant grift for taxpayer money.

    I've seen similar stunts in the past.

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    1. Re:Cerberus by rogoshen1 · · Score: 2

      Well when you're jeff bezos, you know that you are the best leader that the world has seen since the Pharaohs. So it goes to follow that the best way to run Amazon is to create an army of bezos-clones to run each division with the type of awe-inspiring, brutal intensity that makes us lesser mortals shrivel in fear.

      So once per fiscal year these clones will travel to a secret underground arena where they will engage in a grand melee. With the winner being crowned bezos prime, and run the company until the next set of gladiatorial games.

    2. Re: Cerberus by Miamicanes · · Score: 2

      It's called, "continuity of business".

      Amazon is one of the largest companies in America. If something like an earthquake or impending volcanic eruption shut down Amazon's Seattle HQ, it would be DEVASTATING for both consumers AND vendors. As in, "could trigger a cascading chain of business failures & recession" devastating.

      Mental image: September 11, 2001. 10:27am. IT guy who just escaped from the WTC South Tower, talking to someone: " Of COURSE we have an emergency data center. It's right over there... in the North Tower..."

    3. Re:Cerberus by GregMmm · · Score: 2

      Seattle has helped this move forward. If the local government feels they can push around a large company in on geographical area, they will. With 50k workers in the Seattle area, they are stuck with working with the ever expanding demands of the local government. To level the playing field open multiple "headquarters" in other states and play them against each other.

      Ask Seattle how well that worked with Boeing. Oh ya, HQ moved to Chicago. So if the government gets too over the top, they can shift employees to the other headquarters.

  7. DC swamp FTW (thanks Google) by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd believe the Crystal City over everything else. That's where a lot of big government/defense deals go down, and Amazon is probably just giggling to itself after some Google employees decided to stage antiwar demonstrations over the past few months. (Heck, if I was Amazon, I might be paying my competitor's employees to act up.) The GCP and Microsoft Azure cloud platforms are for real (unlike, say, Oracle/IBM "clouds") and both work better in many instances than Amazon's, but if Amazon can lock itself in as the first provider of federal cloud services (and just maybe let them look at peoples' purchase history once in a while) then it's smiling all the way to the bank.

  8. What? by Daetrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "The move will also ease potential issues with housing, transit and other areas where adding tens of thousands of workers could cause problems."

    They're concerned about housing for tens of thousands of workers and they're considering New York City as one of the options? I haven't lived there myself, but from everything i've heard decent, reasonably priced housing is not something that can be found in New York City.

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  9. In other words, Dallas and Virginia. by Jahoda · · Score: 2

    They're not going to have two headquarters on the east coast. And, Dallas is super Fortune 100 friendly. Additionally, it has a reasonable cost of living, and the same I am sure can be said of Crystal City, VA. Seems highly unlikely to me you'd want your new HQ in one of the most competitive and expensive labor markets in the country.

  10. amazon knows what its doing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They are turning in to the same type of defense contractor company. They setup a part of the business in multiple states. The get huge contracts and handouts from the government, states, cities, etc. If the incentives will never dissappear because no senator wants to be responsible for the vote that made amazon leave the area, taking 20k jobs with it. It's the same thing defense contractors do. 18 billion dollar contracts keep flowing into them, and they split the work between multiple state locations. That ensures no senator will vote against the contract, because if they do, the project shuts down, so do the plants, and that state loses the multiple thousands of jobs.

    Same formula, different company.

  11. Re:Always two there are by jythie · · Score: 2

    Huh... There was actually a company a recruiter was trying to get me to interview at that was pretty much structured that way. They had their location where all the stars went, and their location which, how shall we say, did not feel respected or valued by management.