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Google Pledges To Overhaul Its Sexual Harassment Policy After Global Protests (theguardian.com)
In an email to staff on Thursday, Google CEO Sundar Pichai said the company would overhaul its sexual harassment policies, "meeting some of the demands of employees who organized historic walkouts across the globe," the Guardian reports. "Pichai said Google would end forced arbitration of sexual miconduct claims, revamp its investigations process, share data on harassment claims and outcomes, and provide new support systems for people who come forward. From the report: Some critics, however, said the commitments were inadequate, failed to address pay disparities, and ignored demands to improve the rights of temporary employees and contractors. Pichai said Google would now make arbitration "optional for individual sexual harassment and sexual assault claims," but noted that employees could still choose to keep their claims confidential. [...] Pichai also said Google would disclose trends about investigations and disciplinary actions and would create "one dedicated site" that included "live support" for people with complaints. Google would now also offer "extra care and resources" to employees, including counseling and "career support" and a "support person," the CEO added.
If someone commits a crime against you, call the police and charge them with a crime; otherwise, shut the fuck up.
This is what happens when you try to integrate the sexes.
How about women stop dressing up like they're going on a dinner date. Lipstick; make up; cleavage; skirts, sassy splashes of color. That's how you get a man to pay for your dinner and then fuck you.
Men are buttoned up from to chin. Literally, a man exposes only his hands and his face—he might as well be wearing a burka by women's standards of clothing.
No wonder so many sexually abusive men are scared.
Let this be a lesson to any organization that tries to embrace identity politics. SJW eat their own and if you are with them, you are just as likely to be the next meal.
Google is trying to appease the SJW mob. This never works. It just energizes them and makes them sure to make even more extreme demands of the future. We've seen this again and again.
You know what we've seen works? Ignoring them. They get sullen and bitter and move on to the next cause. Nothing worse than throwing a protest and nobody cares. The opposite of SJW hate is not love. The opposite is indifference.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Is inherently a workplace hazard when you work for the largest violation of privacy in the world.
What? You thought you were immune from violation just because you joined team violator?
Wasn't there some startup that had a futuristic rape room? That was interesting. This is boring as shit. Idgaf about some women getting touched at Google. Its a shit company. Its not news unless there are explicit details like "the women are raped every night in the parking lot with a broken chair leg". I dont feel any sympathy for these homely cunts. Have you ever seen the kind of "woman" that works at Google? TBH I'm sceptical that anybody would risk criminal charges for a pass at those disgusting beasts.
It's the practices.
They might as well just adopt what they really want as a policy and require mandatory implants and forced diets for female employes.
You know, like on Star Trek, where men were men, and women wore less.
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Fine. From now on, we'll only give $80 million dollar payouts. Are you all happy now?
You are obviously a very sensitive person if you're going to call the cops just because somebody says something sexual to you. However, the best you can hope for is that the cops will tell the guy to knock it off and they won't laugh at you until after they leave.
If somebody sexually propositions you at work you should not call the cops, rather you should tell HR or your boss. Cops only enforce laws, but companies are required to provide a safe working environment. Happy workers are productive workers, and if management knows about sexual harassment and does nothing then the company is culpable.
You could lobby to change the laws so that any type of sexual harassment becomes illegal, since that's probably how you think the world already works. You probably think that anybody who offends you is a criminal. Hopefully as you grow up you'll become less fragile.
If any line employment had done the same things, they would've been fired immediately sent packing, with a note added to their HR record to deny them severance and unemployment. But a high-level executive does it, and the company tries to cover it up, and when they can't anymore the person is let go with a $90 million golden parachute.
The problem isn't the policies. It's the uneven application of the policies. It's not limited to sexual harassment either. High-level execs regularly seem to be let go with a golden parachute following a myriad of things (fraud, embezzlement, etc) that would sink the career of a regular employee.* Revamping the policies won't make the slightest difference if they're still not applied evenly.
* This makes me suspect we need a law saying being let go for unethical behavior automatically nullifies any severance terms you've negotiated in your employment contract.
Microaggressions?
"That person did not look at me in an insulting way. Not looking at me in an insulting way is a microaggression because it implies the sight of me offends their privilege".
Make haste, there are many more atrocities to fight that maturely need your maturity.
Never be alone with or have a one-on-one conversation with any woman who is not your wife. Don't even look at them, lest you be accused of "eye rape". Be the most boring man in the world and they'll leave you alone. Do all your socializing and flirting with women who don't even know what industry you work in. (No big loss -- an a Slashdot reader, your job title is probably something women would dismiss as "loser nerd")
If you're a key person, e.g. the guy who codes the search algos or the guy who invented Android, you have less to worry about. You'll either get a huge severance check or start a new company that eats Google's lunch.
When an foolish man gets punched in the face, nobody thinks twice about "He was asking for it".
Women need to grow a pair and accept that responsibility/agency comes hand-in-hand with feminine privileges (e.g., sexual allure).
The SJW in the room has self-identified.
Please please please oh dear god please stfu and stop with all your SJW bullshit. The rest of us have work and family. Where do you get the time to be such an enormous virtue signaling idiot?
It struck me as very odd to see how supportive the CEO of Google was of this walkout.... most of the left/right world just sees it as caving in to snowflake pressure, or the workers bringing about positive change through collective action.... but I have a different theory.
Normally, the hands of management are bound by lots of rules, shareholder pressure, the SEC, etc... I'm sure the CEO was aware of the issues, but too bound up by the rules and social pressures from above (shareholders, the 0.001%, etc) to effectively deal with it.
if the workers happen to "organize" a strike demanding something that the CEO would like to do, but can't.... you get the aforementioned weird reaction. Moral dilemma on the part of the CEO is solved, workers are happy that they have some power, and shareholder blame gets deflected safely away from management.
I expect this to happen more, as it might be a new corporate cultural norm.
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Rest In Peace, dear departed Google "Don't be Evil".
Goodbye, wacky but entertaining Google "20% To Personal Projects That Get Abandoned As Soon As They Start Getting Good".
Google "Chamberlain" has now embarked on the path of 99% historically certain implosion.
Good riddance, evil overbearing Google "Big Brother".
Get off your fucking high horse.
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They (SJW's) just won't be happy until they've remodeled the world à la THX-1138.
It's sad, sickening and makes me long for my retirement in the country-side and death.
I long for the days of self awareness, self-reliance and responsibility.
Humanity, the more you study it the more you realize you were sold a bunch of garbage.
End of Line.
something for the company to solve? Because companies are required to take steps to have a safe work environment. Workers forced them too in the 1900s because until they were forced to companies didn't bother. Workers were replaceable when something went wrong.
Also it's good for the work environment. Women are essential to modern business. Like it or not more of them are graduating college right now. The reason is girls calm down sooner in their early childhood and can focus on school, meanwhile boys are still balls of excitement and rage for a few more years. That gives girls a bit of a head start in early education which translates to a lead in long term education. Yes, this means boys could do with a bit of extra attention. The pendulum has swung the other way, but only because we've improved things so much for girls. Still, it does highlight the need for more funding in schools, if only to attract and keep better teachers.
Anyway, until we radically improve our education system (which ain't happening any time soon) this improves Google's bottom line while protecting workers. It's a win-win.
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Because "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't satisfy the mob.
Innocent until proven guilty ONLY applies to criminal court cases brought by the government. It has NOTHING to do with internal HR actions of a private company unless it deals directly with actions regarding a protected class of individuals. Even then "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply unless the parties involved are standing in a courtroom. With some restrictions a company has wide discretion in how it treats the people working for it and they absolutely can treat you as guilty until proven innocent if they want.
Not saying it's a good idea to do that but that is the way it works.
It's exactly the same thing as freedom on speech as protected by the first amendment. Legally it only applies in relation to the government.
they protesting the forced arbitration.
If I may go off on a tangent here (feel free to stop readying if you're not into a libtard libtarding out) I've been complaining about our right wing media narratives for years. Workers are understandably angry that a sexual harassment claim is forced into binding arbitration instead of being litigated as it should. Workers have lost a valuable right. This is barely discussed in most media outlets (CNN, to their credit, did) in favor of a focus on the part most likely to rile up the anti-SJW crowd. This is what I mean about the right wing media bias.
Another amazing example. Fiat-Chrysler just got caught bribing Union leaders to weaken worker benefits and pay. The news stories all ran it as a Union Corruption scandal and did everything they could to gloss over the fact that Fiat-Chrysler was the one paying the bribes. The message is loud and clear: Unions are bad because they are corrupt. Again, right wing narrative at play.
The media is a bit left on a few social issues. A bit. They (like Hilary Clinton I might add) opposed Gay marriage until changing times forced their hand. I'm sick of it. It's like living in bizzaro world where everyone around me clamors on about the left wing media meanwhile I watch stories like the above unfold over and over again...
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they workers were angry about the forced arbitration. That's a legitimate complaint. It's also being downplayed in most stories in favor of the SJW angle. Now that you know that you should be asking yourself why.
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One thing I've noticed about many anti-feminists is that they tend to conflate three or four different things, I don't know if it's malicious or reflects genuine confusion, but they tend to assume rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment to be all the same thing, often adding in hostile workplaces and so on. While you can argue, I guess, that rape is an example of all of the above, it's not the same in the other direction: groping someone is not rape. Wolf whistling is not sexual assault. Ignoring someone's ideas, or constantly unfairly belittling them, and spreading unsavory rumors about them is not (necessarily) sexual harassment.
Remember Matt Damon? He said rape and patting someone of the butt are all bad and should be eradicated, but they are not the same. His career was almost over for saying that! It's the SJW and feminists that assume rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment to be all the same thing, often adding in hostile workplaces and so on.
And in any case, it's often not a crime, it's a civil employment issue.
It also very often IS a crime in many circumstances. For example the moment anyone is denied benefits, promotions, punitively fired, given an adverse decision, interfere with their work, intimidate, etc, then it can very easily become a crime. And even in cases where it is not a crime it is certainly not decent behavior.
Nonsense. Innocent Until Proven Guilty is a mindset. A philosophy, a critical tenent of modern civilization.
Jus like censorship and free speech, the fact that some (far too few) fundamental principles and human rights are enshrined in the US Constitution in no way reduces their central role as philosophical tenents that are at the core of humanism and actually meaningful "Codes of Conduct."
Which was kind of the point. If sexual harassment is handled in court, then the presumption of innocence applies. The prevailing sentiment -- at least of those who make the most noise -- is that those accused of sexual harassment should be punished without that standard of proof. And that's why those people push to have punishments meted out by employers rather than the government.
How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
The only one I'm hearing this arbitration angle is from you.
And you didn't have any source, while conveniently saying the media is biased and isn't covering it, almost as if to excuse yourself from having to bother.
Amusingly, that sort of attack-the-press tactic is something I'd attribute to Donald "Fake news!" Trump and the right which you seem to hate so much.
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right wing media bias. Step out of your media bubble. The hard right have bought up so much (re:Sinclair media) that it's tough to get away from them.
I'm not saying excessive Political Correctness and over eager SJWs and hucksters like Anita Sarkeesian aren't a problem (they're fanning flames to make quick cash). But I _am_ saying that a safe work environment is a good thing and that sexual harassment is a real problem. Men can be predatory. Not always, not even in a majority of the time. But that doesn't mean we don't need protections in place. You put locks on your doors, right?
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As time has passed, I've become aware of it. I've realized I'm part of this problem. I just see them and the temptation is too great. I know it's wrong. I know it hurts everyone. But when I see one of these teasing, taunting.... oooh I just have to get in there. Yes these sjw stories on Slashdot have me in a pickle. But I'm almost over it now. I'm finally ready to move on and not click on them.
If video games influenced behavior the Pac Man generation would be eating pills and running away from their problems.
Your late, all the SJWs are going at it upthread.
Will it still be against the rules to say out loud that men and women aren't exactly the same and may need different things from the workplace in order to thrive?
All the Alphas are dead. IBM, HP, Yahoo, Microsoft, Apple, and Google. All the real leaders are long gone and all that's left are the hippy liberal douches that went to business school leading them down the spiral staircase into progressive hell where the company will grind to a halt while it eats itself alive from the inside out. Keep appeasing stupid shit like this, the stairs will turn into a slide.
From now on, sexual harrassment will not be reported; however, it will be graded.
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I don't understand why you perceive "work" to be this robotic, sterile thing.
"No, serious. It's work. It's not a bar."
That doesn't mean anything. That's circular logic.
Run your business that way if you want, by should others have to run their business that way too?
Google can still sexually harass you even if you've never worked at Google and have never used any of their products.
Step out of your media bubble.
A Google search result without telling people which link or links to look at specifically isn't a citation. It's again, much like a tactic Trump (or many other politicians) use: say vague things so the listener can fill in the blanks with whatever they want to hear.
But I'll humor you and went through one of the the top links I saw, from ars technica... ...and it tells me it wasn't just about mandatory arbitration. Mandatory arbitration is only one demand out of several, the only one Google as agreed to so far.
But why did those demands come about? What are those demands supposed to do? What problem/issue are they trying to address? What is the cause?
Following the links in the article, you get this which describes the protests...
"Protestors were galvanized by a recent New York Times report that chronicled three top company executives who have received massive payouts over the past decade despite being credibly accused of sexual misconduct."
So right there ars technica (the same site that had the article about mandatory arbitration) is saying the protestors were coming out because of the incident(s). The incident was the cause. Ending mandatory arbitration (and I assume the other demands) is just what the people think would help address issues highlighted by the incident, again bringing us back to the incident being the cause.
Maybe in some pedantic sense you're right that they weren't complaining about those specific cases related to former execs/employees, but I doubt the other poster meant it that way (and it's not like there's anything to be done about those specific cases anymore, those guys took the money and ran)
So I'm not seeing this so called right wing bias you're railing about. The media is reporting, correctly, that people came out in protest because of "the incident".
I'm not saying excessive Political Correctness and over eager SJWs and hucksters like Anita Sarkeesian aren't a problem (they're fanning flames to make quick cash).
Well, it looks to me there isn't any hucksters here when reporting the story as being because of "the incidents" as opposed to your insistence that it's about mandatory arbitration.
But I _am_ saying
You *are* saying that now, but before, your post look more like rail against right wing media.
But that doesn't mean we don't need protections in place. You put locks on your doors, right?
That's kinda irrelevant to what ShanghaiBill was asking. ShanghaiBill pointed out that whatever sexual relationship happened off hours, and possibly outside the work space.
How would putting locks on my doors help when the people - full grown adults competent enough to be hired by Google - are doing things off my property and not working for me at that moment?
Look, I do think ending mandatory arbitration is a good thing, but I'm not seeing this right wing media bias on your part. Maybe, just maybe, reality DOESN'T have a liberal bias (as often joked by liberals when conservatives whine), and the media is just reporting the non-liberal reality as it is?
*females claim more and more power over and beyond equality*
"We're oppressed! Give us a voice!"
the point of the GIS is you need to leave your media bubble. Here's another more specific place to start.
You're being had. Right wing politics and anti-SJW bullshit is just a trick to get you to side with the Mega corps. They let you hate on feminists and you let them have all the money and land. Doesn't seem like a fair trade to me.
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the point of the GIS is you need to leave your media bubble
That's not what I asked you. I asked for a citation that people are protesting about mandatory arbitration. I explained why what you provided last time wasn't it.
You're being had.
You keep saying that, but you keep failing to explain why. I keep asking for citation to the things you say, but what you provide fails to impress. That "long" post was to explain why. For someone who claims to care about other people being had just below, you're undermining your point when you act like you can't process anything more complicated than quippy one liners, buzzwords, and talking points programmed into you by your masters.
Right wing politics and anti-SJW bullshit is just a trick to get you to side with the Mega corps. They let you hate on feminists and you let them have all the money and land. Doesn't seem like a fair trade to me.
You're not even listening to me are you? None of that has anything to do with me or what I said, but you just gotta recite the script
This is a move by trained activists from the HR to bring back the old order and put the geeks in their natural place. And it seems it is working.
Mass walkout should have ended with mass layoffs.
How about this for a refutation: I simply don't believe those stories. I can make up a good story myself. You wanna hear one? Point being, if it's ok for your side to ignore the SJWs then there is nothing keeping me from ignoring you MRA assholes.
Nazi asshole sjbe SEXUALLY HER-ASSED me! He should be fired RIGHT NOW! No evidence or due process needed!
Disemploy the asshole nazi sexual assaulter! Fire him, fire him, fire him! Punch a nazi!!
It isn't a legal concept, you fucking moron. It's an ethical one.
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Not really. It's just a reassertion of the reasonable-doubt standard. When you're no longer fooling anybody, that's enough. When the arguments against the charges are clear bullshit, they hold no value. Essentially, this is removing the veils that abusers and rapists hide behind to escape the consequences of their actions despite there being no reasonable doubt that they are guilty.
(If you want more proof of that, consider that they're hailing decisions like Google's to allow these cases to be settled in court. Shouldn't #MeToo be against that, if the idea is to end-run the reasonable-doubt standard? Private arbitration is much friendlier to end-running reasonable doubt, yet #MeToo runs toward the concept, not away from it.