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Researchers Say Social Media Can Cause Depression (marketwatch.com)

Posted by msmash on from the closer-look dept.

Spending too much time on "social media" sites like Facebook is making people more than just miserable. It may also be making them depressed. From a report: A new study conducted by psychologists at the University of Pennsylvania has shown -- for the first time -- a causal link between time spent on social media and depression and loneliness, the researchers said. It concluded that those who drastically cut back their use of sites like Facebook, Instagram and Snapchat often saw a marked improvement in their mood and in how they felt about their lives.

"It was striking," says Melissa Hunt, psychology professor at University of Pennsylvania, who led the study. "What we found over the course of three weeks was that rates of depression and loneliness went down significantly for people who limited their (social media) use." Many of those who began the study with moderate clinical depression finished just a few weeks later with very mild symptoms, she says.

The study, "No More FOMO: Limiting Social Media Decreases Loneliness and Depression," was conducted by Melissa Hunt, Rachel Marx, Courtney Lipson and Jordyn Young, is being published by the peer-reviewed Journal of Social and Clinical Psychology. For the study, Hunt and her team studied 143 undergraduates at the University of Pennsylvania over a number of weeks. They tested their mood and sense of well-being using seven different established scales.

99 comments

  1. No Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You only get one life - live it in the real world.

    Stop using social media.

    Turn off the algorithms.

    Stop watching 24/7 opinion channels pretending to be news.

    There is nothing positive in any of it.

    1. Re:No Shit by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      > You only get one life - live it in the real world.
      > Stop using social media.

      Those two are the best advice for anyone! I wish I could mod you up.

      > Stop watching 24/7 opinion channels pretending to be news.

      And that! It doesn't matter which flavor you prefer, CNN or FoxNews. It is a pointless waste of time. They hook you in with a promise of some great story -- right after the break! But you don't actually get it until the end of the hour, and guess what . . . it's not what they promised. And everything, no matter how trivial is . . .

      BREAKING NEWS !!!

      And the talking heads, droning on, and on, and on. Speculation. Opinions.

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    2. Re:No Shit by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 1

      You only get one life - live it in the real world.

      Stop using social media.

      Turn off the algorithms.

      Stop watching 24/7 opinion channels pretending to be news.

      There is nothing positive in any of it.

      ...posted someone to slashdot, which is just as much social media as Facebook. Just because you can’t post photos and videos (or if you can, I’ve no idea how,) doesn’t mean it isn’t social media.

      Let’s go down the checklist:

      Use your name or adopt a pseudonym by which you’re known on the site: check
      Have capital ascribed to you (“Likes” there, Karma and Mod Points here,): check
      Continuously running news feed of information submitted by community: check
      Has facilities to check and see how many people agree with you: check
      Provides the ability to have “Friends” (and on slashdot, “Foes,): check
      You get out of it what you can, and what you get depends on you: check

      Yeah. Slashdot is social media too. Being at least historically vaguely tech-centric doesn’t make it anything other than social media.

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  2. No way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You're telling me constantly hearing about the good things in other peoples lives on an hourly basis and almost never hearing about their struggles or problems is bad for your mental health? Bullshit!

    1. Re:No way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's not even that. It's facebook deliberately manipulating your feed so you only see negative things.

      Because they want you to click on ads. People who are happy and fulfilled don't click on ads seeking out some product to "fill the hole in their life".

      It's all poison. It's designed to be poison. The people who run these companies are doing this to you on purpose.

      A skyrocketing suicide just means more shiny sheckels to them.

  3. Not 'can' by nospam007 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Does and Will.

    1. Re:Not 'can' by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      Does or does not. There is no can.

      -or-

      Don't try to Does the Will, only try to realize the truth . . . there is no Can.

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  4. A Depressant you can't regulate by sycodon · · Score: 2

    People have found a virtual form of alcohol which makes them feel powerful, but at the same time causes depression. No doubt there will be a link found to violence in the future.

    Worst thing is, you can't regulate it.

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    1. Re:A Depressant you can't regulate by Alypius · · Score: 3, Funny

      We just need common-sense social media reform. No one's coming to take your facebooks away!

    2. Re:A Depressant you can't regulate by BringsApples · · Score: 1

      Worst thing is, you can't regulate it.

      Then it's time for the people to regulate themselves. One could write software that monitors usage on certain social media websites or apps, and that could send an alert or disable the app after so many minutes. Give the software away for free.

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    3. Re:A Depressant you can't regulate by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      you can't regulate it.

      Why? One cannot make laws about it? What you call "regulation"?

    4. Re:A Depressant you can't regulate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      won't somebody think of the advertisers? if no one is looking at the sites how are they going to see and respond to the ads?

    5. Re:A Depressant you can't regulate by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      Nice idea, but there's one big problem with it. The people who need it the most are the least likely to use it.

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    6. Re:A Depressant you can't regulate by pak9rabid · · Score: 2

      Just treat it like it is: addiction. Offer recovery programs for it and those that have have a problem with it, and have had enough could find their own support groups to overcome it, much like how things currently work with those with substance abuse issues.

    7. Re:A Depressant you can't regulate by gnick · · Score: 1

      ...software that monitors usage...and that could send an alert or disable the app after so many minutes.

      I've never tried this feature, and it doesn't sound like it has everything you're looking for, but it's something.

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    8. Re:A Depressant you can't regulate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see how it's hard to regulate. You can't go after the speech of course, but you can go after Facebook's business model. Regulate the fuck out of the surveillance economy and Facebook's power over users evaporates.

    9. Re: A Depressant you can't regulate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doofus. I bet you never even learned your times tables

    10. Re:A Depressant you can't regulate by BringsApples · · Score: 1

      much like how things currently work with those with substance abuse issues.

      Yeah, because THAT'S going really well.

      Now for the statistics:
      Inpatient treatment costs $3,200 on average. 73% of addicts complete treatment and 21% remain sober after five years.
      Residential treatment costs $3,100 on average. 51% of addicts complete treatment and 21% remain sober after five years.
      Detox costs $2,200 on average. 33% of addicts complete treatment and 17% remain sober after five years.
      Outpatient drug-free treatments cost $1,200 on average. 43% of addicts complete treatment and 18% remain sober after five years.

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  5. Not a surprise really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    People usually post on social media when things are going well for them or they are happy.

    So if you have a pile of friends, some of them will typically be posting something sickening like that.

    And you will see that and wonder why you aren't doing the things they are, why they do so much more, and then you feel like crap.

    The fact that the other people are also feeling crap is not noticed, as few people post things like that on social media.

    Social media simply cannot beat going to the pub in person, and having a nice chat and time and a few beers.

    1. Re:Not a surprise really by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      Social media, apart from tearing apart the fabric of society, has entertainment value.

      Everyone wants to be entertained. For free, of course. So they expect all of their friends to post something funny or entertaining. But nobody does. Like Reality TV some entertainment is the shock value of the things other people post -- which is not funny.

      In other news the Parisian bistro is dying. Wait! What distro? And what kernel does it run?

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  6. Bigger Picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What if it isn't specifically social media, but the whole dang Internet?

    Amazon - Buy Now!
    Google - Buy Now!
    Microsoft - Buy Now!
    Local Potato Chip Factory - Buy Now!

    I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I was out of money a long time ago.

    1. Re:Bigger Picture by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      > Amazon - Buy Now!
      > Google - Buy Now!
      > Microsoft - Buy Now!
      > Local Potato Chip Factory - Buy Now!

      Amazon - Bye Now!
      Google - Bye Now!
      Microsoft -- Bye Bye Now! Hope not to see you again!
      Local Potato Chip Factory -- Yum.

      Deal of the day! 3100 calories for the price of only 500!

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      I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
    2. Re:Bigger Picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thing is, I only go to Amazon when I *want* to *buy now*, then I close it. It doesn't try to get me to buy stuff when I'm not using it.

  7. Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2

    Gee, wonder how big their grant was to conduct this 'study', and what the money was actually spent on? /s

    Facebook is not the real world, not by a longshot. It's closer to reality on a middling-bad acid trip, and that's on a good day.
    Humans are a social species, and so-called 'social media' (especially Facebook) is about as ersatz as ersatz can get; it's like a bad Chinese knock-off of actual social interaction.

    So the jury is in with their verdict: Kill your Facebook account, do it today, and start being actually social with people again. I've said it before, I'll say it again, and I'll keep saying it: 'Social media' is cancerous, and now we see the proof. It needs to be surgically excised from your lives, and real social interaction is the chemo to fix the damage.

    1. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      ...he says, while posting on social media.

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    2. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      This is not social media, this is a news site with commenting. Get off it, troll.

    3. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by eggstasy · · Score: 1

      The real world is toxic to introverts and bullies them into oblivion.

    4. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A news site with commenting is social media, you dope.

    5. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop conflating introverts with socially-inept autistic nerds.

    6. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      You've got users, likes, dislikes, tags, achievements, the ability to make friends and enemies...and people calling those with whom they disagree "trolls". Sounds like social media to me.

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    7. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      Wow, the original post was more than 140 characters? How did they do that?

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    8. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've said it before, I'll say it again, and I'll keep saying

      keep saying I, I, I, because you're self-absorbed, self-centered and precisely the kind of person who enjoys social media. And you seem to think there's something special about your awareness, which is usually a prelude to full-blown delusion.

    9. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 0

      Nope. Nothing anyone can say will convince me otherwise. No one is posting shit about their day, or vacation photos, or any of the other shit people put on so-called 'social media' sites. The site owners decide what gets posted here and people can comment on those stories. So you see you're completely and totally wrong. /subject

    10. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      Go back to 4chan.

    11. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

      Social media is when your identity is known. That makes all the difference in the world.

    12. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by pak9rabid · · Score: 1

      this is a news site

      Media

      with commenting

      Social

      So what you're saying is this is a media-social site? Cool, thanks for the clarification.

    13. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by pak9rabid · · Score: 1

      It's almost like there's *gasp!* different formats of social media sites.

    14. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kill your Facebook account, do it today, and start being actually social with people again.

      I would say stop using it, but keep your account so you can have command over your identity.

    15. Re:Obvious 'study' is (blindingly!) obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you're just such a sad excuse for an individual that you can't even cut it on Facebook or Twitter without being run out on a rail so you have to infest this place and call it 'social media' so you won't want to slit your wrists every day? LOL. This place lets people post comments completely anonymously, just like I and many others do every single day, what social media site lets you do that? Rhetorical question none of them do. You're a dumb cuck like that other neckbeard and you should kill yourself. This is a fucking nerd news site and nothing more and it's not even a good one, it's like a sad parody of Ars Technica.

  8. Old News by DaMattster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is hardly earth shattering at this point. I remember when the initial studies of the toxicity of social media first came out several years ago. Facebook just about encourages us to compare and judge our lives to that of our friends. This comparison can cause depression when we perceive our friends as having more success in career and family than we have. On top of that, add the constant cycle of bad political and world news and it just spirals downhill. The best thing I ever did was delete Facebook and Twitter. The more people that get off of these platforms the better their mental health would be.

    1. Re:Old News by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

      This is hardly earth shattering at this point. I remember when the initial studies of the toxicity of social media first came out several years ago. Facebook just about encourages us to compare and judge our lives to that of our friends.

      Worse yet, it's not actually your friends' lives, but the idealized, sanitized version that they post on social media. They're always on vacation or doing something cool and nothing bad ever happens.

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    2. Re:Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I completely agree.

    3. Re: Old News by ljw1004 · · Score: 1

      How can you call it "old news" when, as the article and summary both say, this is the very first time a causal link has been measured and published. That's the very definition of "new news". Maybe you're thinking of "old conjecture"...?

    4. Re:Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And its the best of ALL your friends lives. If you have ~100 friends on facebook then chances are one of them is always on a vacation. Something super exciting (once every 2 year event) will be happening every weekend. This will make you feel like you should always be on vacation and doing something super exciting like eating a $100 a plate meal and going to a show/concert.

    5. Re:Old News by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

      And its the best of ALL your friends lives. If you have ~100 friends on facebook then chances are one of them is always on a vacation. Something super exciting (once every 2 year event) will be happening every weekend. This will make you feel like you should always be on vacation and doing something super exciting like eating a $100 a plate meal and going to a show/concert.

      Exactly.

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  9. Social Media should be regulated by supercell · · Score: 1

    The harms from social media are WAY worse than smoking or alcohol and is unregulated. I am a conservative and against regulation, but this money grab by major tech giants at the expense of humans well being has got to end.

    1. Re:Social Media should be regulated by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      I agree with that, but the regulation must be very well debated before crafted, to avoid the maximum of misuse possible...

  10. Re:Explains c6gunner's asshole tendencies... apk by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 1

    And then there's the correlation between spending too much time on Slashdot and... whatever this is.

  11. More like asocial media by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Fake "friendships", no conversation, just people soapboxing a paragraph or two to 300 people who will skim over it or ignore it if its not a topic they have in common. Very dull, time consuming to follow, when following the writings of 300 people consumes so much spare time.

    The old fashioned way was better, when you talked with people, instead of talking at them as with "social" media, and learned what they liked to talk about and learned to converse with them.

  12. consumption vs production by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    build something and your depression will be reduced

  13. I partially disagree by FilmedInNoir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I only get depressed when I visit the comments section

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    1. Re:I partially disagree by antdude · · Score: 3, Funny

      Are you depressed now? :P

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  14. Depression Measurement Assessment by DickBreath · · Score: 2

    There might be a semi objective measure for depression.

    Q. How much do you use social media?

    Add up the points from the following items. If you score more than 10 points, you've discovered what is contributing to your problem.

    * If you use Facebook, add 500 points.
    * If you use Twitter, add 275 points.
    * If you use Instagram add 425 points.
    * If you use WhatsApp add 300 points.

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    1. Re:Depression Measurement Assessment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm surprised that WhatsApp is included as bad social media: I've only used it to chat 1 on one with remote people, or coordinate activities with nearby people. I haven't used it in a year; has Facebook brought to it the dark patterns of other social media?

    2. Re:Depression Measurement Assessment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WhatsApp seems like a classification error in your list. It's just live chat. That's nothing new and nothing like social media.

  15. Sartre: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hell is other people.

    Social media is all the people in one spot.

  16. 4Sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I figured that our 3 and half years ago.
    People are always posting pictures while happy. They are traveling the world, buying new cars, finishing great works in their hobbies, having the best carred and the best friends and the nicest pictures. Life is so good! It seems as nobody ever gets sad.

    Then I deleted my Facebook, Instagrap and Twitter. And 3.5 years after, I am not happier, but surely not sadder and using my time for something else that is more important.

  17. Re:Explains c6gunner's asshole tendencies... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody cares what you think, SNOWFLAKE. The only relevance you have are the jokes we make about you on /.

    I'm sick & tired of being BULLIED by weezils like c6gunner.

    I can make a long list of people you've harassed and harangued on /. over the years. You have no self control, and nobody feels sorry for you. I'm glad c6gunner was unmasked accidentally, we all think it's pretty funny and give zero fucks that many of the "apk" posts were fake. Because we know when you post for real by the reek of your bullshit.

    ZIP

  18. well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone should tell these researchers to stop using social media if it is making them feel depressed. Fucking losers.

  19. Well that's ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... depressing.

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  20. Not surprising by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

    As much of Social Media is a lie to begin with.

    Plenty of folks use the various platforms to brag or show how amazing and fulfilling their lives are when, it's usually nothing more than staged fantasy.

    Many folks don't see it for what it is and it then becomes a digital version of keeping up with the Jonses.

    Unless they, too, partake in the charade, they can't possibly keep up which causes anxiety, depression and other issues.

     

  21. Obligatory today's xkcd quote.... by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 1

    this.

    Do Slashdot topics follow xkcd themes, or rather Randall Munroe reads Slashdot ?

  22. IMPERSONATING me AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Hope you're RIGHT (considering I'm only sure hosts stop portsmash vs. Spectre/Meltdown) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    I pity c6gunner caught impersonating me (his name's the submitter signing "APK") https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    * He tried to INSULT me & so I made him a COMPLETELY FAIR CHALLENGE he couldn't meet or beat by showing me he's done better work in the past prior to his impersonating me there.

    (You shouldn't throw stones when you live in a glass house boys - especially vs. me: RIGHT, ZIP? https://developers.slashdot.or... )

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts stop portsmash (by blocking download sources of its mailcious exes doing it) https://it.slashdot.org/commen... not Spectre/Meltdown AFAIK @ least - & YOU FAIL THIS PORTFILTERING TEST liar https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... (my program won't allow that error) so cut your lies as you IMPERSONATE me you pitiful loser... apk

  23. Well Fuck. by lazlo · · Score: 1

    Damn, that's depressing. I'm depressed and lonely. If only I used social media, I'd at least have a way to be less depressed and lonely by stopping. But I don't, so I guess I'm stuck this way.

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    1. Re:Well Fuck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You appear to be a fan of Real Genius. Which means you are probably from my generation. Maybe even a computer geek with above-average intelligence, like me.

      Part of your depression is expectation. People tell you that being alone is bad, and that it *should* depress you, which produces anxiety (and in turn depression). So, stop believing their ignorance.

      You are probably also single. That isn't your fault. Women in western society have made themselves insufferable. Furthermore, having a romantic relationship only temporarily addresses loneliness. After the honeymoon phase you find that spending your time exclusively with one person is simply not enough to overcome loneliness, especially when most of that time is just dividing up of chores, or watching tv.

      After the lies are rejected, whatever loneliness remains can be addressed by hanging out with friends in meatspace. You need actual facetime, engaged in conversation, to engage the right parts of your brain. That cures loneliness.

      So, there you go.

      Oh, wait, you were just making a joke. Ok, never mind.

  24. IMPERSONATING me AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I pity c6gunner caught impersonating me (his name's the submitter signing "APK") https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    * He tried to INSULT me & so I made him a COMPLETELY FAIR CHALLENGE he couldn't meet or beat by showing me he's done better work in the past prior to his impersonating me there.

    (You shouldn't throw stones when you live in a glass house boys - especially vs. me: RIGHT, ZIP? https://developers.slashdot.or... )

    APK

    P.S.=> GROW UP weezils - you do it to yourselves trying to "take me on" & FAILING like you always do (especially on tech) + so then you start STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts OR by IMPERSONATING me (weak BITCH tactics only a HOMO would do, lol)... apk

  25. One word to describe it is UNHEALTHY by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

    I used to post a lot on FB (mostly political/philosophical topics), then quit, months later went back again, slowly started posting again a lot, then quit again. It's like when you stop smoking the smoke suffocates you and you wonder how you ever could, but you know there is something about it that could get you hooked again if you don't stay away.

  26. To be fair... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not that I disagree with the conclusion, but this was a pretty small sample of highly similar people.

    You might have different results for old widows with otherwise no social connections.

  27. and if you use... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    * If you use Facebook, add 500 points.
    * If you use Twitter, add 275 points.
    * If you use Instagram add 425 points.
    * If you use WhatsApp add 300 points.

    * and if you use MySpace, delete yourself

  28. Zero that aren't making money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have 20 facebook accounts, but none with my real name or real attitude. I use them to piss off Democrats and Republicans and Trump people. It is fun to get people to click on my other websites. Made $200K last year. Thanks everyone!

    I have 60 Twitter accounts, which feed the facebook accounts which feed the advertising "impressions" on my websites.

    As for any personal, I make a phone call to my comrades to meet IRL. We talk about the 1 interesting thing that happened last month. Usually it isn't really interesting. We all work, a bunch. Gotta make the money. Social media is for making money from fools, nothing else.

  29. I'm fine with this. by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    Honestly, if people who live on facebook and spend 6+ hours a day on TV would grow increasingly depressed and kill themselves, how is that a loss for Humanity?

    I don't dislike them personally, but c'mon: what are those - likely tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions world wide - contributing?

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  30. Your ideas are intriguing to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use them to piss off Democrats and Republicans and Trump people.

    and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMwc1c0HRQ

  31. Are dating websites a form of social media? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because, while I can't say for sure that they -lead to- depression and loneliness, they're sure as sh!t great -reminders- of the depression and loneliness already present in my life lol

  32. Re:Explains c6gunner's asshole tendencies... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ZIP you care and you had to try downmod hide all the times apk caught you lying or screwing up on tech https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

  33. APK is a decimated empty shell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The joke's on you! You keep linking to threads where I destroyed you. When you're losing you like to change the subject in the middle of a discussion, but we all see the earlier parts of the thread where you are totally flustered and unable to compete with superior knowledge.

    I proved your fake solutions were developed DECADES ago. I never took credit for them, as you false claim.

    I proved your child-like toys are not real "security".

    I dismantled your bullshit claims about Delphi/Pascal. It's a great language and you do it a disservice with your false claims.

    Nobody really takes you seriously anymore, we've shown time and time again how you are wrong. And you've responded by repeated copy-pasta garbage showing your overwhelming ignorance on nearly any technical subject.

    ZIP

    P.S. => Goodnight. You've finished yourself off.

  34. Cause? I didn't see any explanation of cause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Once again, correlation vs causation is the problem. I believe it causes depression, but I don't see what they did to show that it is the cause.

  35. News just in from the .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "No Shit, Sherlock" department at /.

  36. From the department of “duh” by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 1

    Know what else causes depression? Depressing shit. Social media is a mirror held up to real life, (perhaps an incredibly twisted, deceptive, fun-house mirror, but still a mirror,) and if you find shit in real life depressing, (and who the fuck wouldn’t?) you’re likely to find what you see in the mirror that IS social media depressing too. In other words, “well, DUH...”

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    Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
  37. WhatsApp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought it was texting and VoIP, at least that's what I use it for. Supposedly encrypted, toll avoiding, phone service. Is there more that I'm unaware of?

  38. Faster! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stroke it faster! I'm about to come.

  39. APK, it's time for you to give up. YOU LOST! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've destroyed every one of your technical arguments. You can keep making false claims, but everyone in the industry agrees that I've won this discussion. You need to drop it and apologize for your arrogance.

    You've been proven wrong. You've been exposed. And now you are my play-thing.

    ZIP

    P.S. => The only way out is for you to apologize to me.

  40. Hey ZIP - who came up w/ the C++ fix 1st? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey ZIP - who came up w/ the C++ fix 1st here (where YOU said you did & multiple times in your post history) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... ?

    * I DID YOU LYING PITIFUL NO SKILLS (or accomplishments you can show & I can (folks like & use MY work https://it.slashdot.org/commen... NOT your "hotairware" that doesn't exist - lol!)

    DESPITE saying "I'm a much better programmer than APK, as has been proven." - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... )

    You do-NOTHING all talk fucking CHIMP loser... lol!

    IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO DO SO PRIOR TO IT there in that debate - mine was 1st reply to raymorris cluing him into C++ bufferoverflow possibles AND HOW TO FIX IT!

    I used ObjectPascal which HAS NO SUCH ISSUE (length's built-into strings).

    Tell us about your "modpoints" you say you don't have (but you did before that) too:

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    Tell us about CODE SIGNING (which has been STOLEN & ABUSED) https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen...

    YOU IGNORANT CHIMP!

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a joke ZACH PATTERSON the wannabe (now I finally KNOW who & WHERE you are)... apk

  41. Others can judge for themselves CHIMP... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey ZIP - who came up w/ the C++ fix 1st here (where YOU said you did & multiple times in your post history) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... ?

    * I DID YOU LYING PITIFUL NO SKILLS (or accomplishments you can show & I can (folks like & use MY work https://it.slashdot.org/commen... NOT your "hotairware" that doesn't exist - lol!)

    DESPITE saying "I'm a much better programmer than APK, as has been proven." - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... )

    You do-NOTHING all talk fucking CHIMP loser... lol!

    IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO DO SO PRIOR TO IT there in that debate - mine was 1st reply to raymorris cluing him into C++ bufferoverflow possibles AND HOW TO FIX IT!

    I used ObjectPascal which HAS NO SUCH ISSUE (length's built-into strings).

    Tell us about your "modpoints" you say you don't have (but you did before that) too:

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    Tell us about CODE SIGNING (which has been STOLEN & ABUSED) https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen...

    YOU IGNORANT CHIMP!!!

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a joke ZACH PATTERSON the wannabe (now I finally KNOW who & WHERE you are)... apk

    1. Re:Others can judge for themselves CHIMP... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO DO SO PRIOR TO IT there in that debate - mine was 1st reply to raymorris cluing him into C++ bufferoverflow possibles AND HOW TO FIX IT!

      No, I solved it 22 years ago. Before C++ was ISO standardized. Your prior debates are irrelevant, as usual. But read & weep at my excellent response to your drivel.

      If you'd like to learn more on a very old technique widely used in the industry (and more flexible than the garbage you worship), crack open some wikipedia goodness. Maybe read a paper or two on CS and educate yourself instead of shooting off your mouth.

      I ought to charge you for the free education I give you on a regular basis.

      ZIP

      P.S. => Nice work on the personal attacks and thinly veiled threats. But I know you're nothing but a worthless internet tough guy.

  42. Hey ZIP - who came up w/ the C++ fix 1st? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey ZIP - who came up w/ the C++ fix 1st here (where YOU said you did & multiple times in your post history) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... ?

    * I DID YOU LYING PITIFUL NO SKILLS (or accomplishments you can show & I can (folks like & use MY work https://it.slashdot.org/commen... NOT your "hotairware" that doesn't exist - lol!)

    DESPITE saying "I'm a much better programmer than APK, as has been proven." - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... )

    You do-NOTHING all talk fucking CHIMP loser... lol!

    IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO DO SO PRIOR TO IT there in that debate - mine was 1st reply to raymorris cluing him into C++ bufferoverflow possibles AND HOW TO FIX IT!

    I used ObjectPascal which HAS NO SUCH ISSUE (length's built-into strings).

    Tell us about your "modpoints" you say you don't have (but you did before that) too:

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    Tell us about CODE SIGNING (which has been STOLEN & ABUSED) https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen...

    YOU IGNORANT CHIMP...

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a joke ZACH PATTERSON the wannabe (now I finally KNOW who & WHERE you are)... apk

  43. What makes YOU a "better programmer" than I... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & answer it: What work have YOU done, by yourself YOUR OWN CODE (not stolen OpenSores) like I have /.ers like/use/praise w/ easily 100,000++ users worldwide I have?

    Nothing. Zero. "ZIP" (you are a zero, squat) - all talk

    Prove otherwise (you never ever do because YOU CAN'T, CHIMP).

    Bwaahahaha how did YOU solve it YOURSELF?

    YOU, yourself, DIDN'T!

    HOWEVER - I can: StrLen on the char array would OR sending 2 pointers thru the array, 1 double the size of the other. Larger fails, use the error & save 1st value for midpoint of total size, double it, done.

    * Either way, minus a lot more, works - but then I CAN ACTUALLY SAY A FEW WAYS TO FIX THE PROBLEM Object Pascal NEVER HAD - string related buffer overflows that C has & C++ still CAN have (if std string not used).

    THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU SOLVED IT BEFORE ME - wrong: Not in the thread OR by your own skills & I pointed out where I had the answer RIGHT OFF THE BAT for RayMorris (whom I respect, you I don't).

    APK

    P.S.=> This is one for my bookmarks I have JUST FOR YOU bs artist - next time you start your shit JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" the DO-NOTHING name Zach Patterson the CHIMP? Out she comes, lol ... apk

  44. LMAO - Hey ZIP you STUPID fuck, guess what? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ZIP you STUPID fuck, guess what? You noted std string but ONLY AFTER I DID 1st BEFORE YOU https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (look for "pascal style strings"/std string STUPID).

    * YOU LOSE BLOWHARD - MY POST PRE DATES YOURS DUMBFUCK (trying to 'take credit' where an IMBECILE like YOU can't even FIGURE OUT how to get around it yourself (I can & did offer 2 ways here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... )).

    So, what makes YOU the 'better programmer' STUPID?

    APK

    P.S.=> What work of YOURS that is ALL YOUR CODE (not stolen OpenSORES) is used/liked/PRAISED by our /. peers & of course, used by 100,000++ users worldwide as mine is? NOTHING, lol - blowhard, prove otherwise (you NEVER can or WILL you BULLSHITTING chimpanzee)... apk

    1. Re:LMAO - Hey ZIP you STUPID fuck, guess what? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MY POST PRE DATES YOURS DUMBFUCK

      No, your post does not predate a 40 year old comp sci paper. YOU LOSE AGAIN.

      You're such a bad programmer you don't realize that you not inventing anything new. You're just make up shit as you go and claiming to be some kind of hot shot coder. When I can see your code and reverse engineer your utility and it's utter CRAP

      ZIP

      P.S. => folks don't run code unless you can verify it first. You can't run APK's hosts engine because you can't verify it without running it. Total noob mistake on APK's part. BAD PROGRAMMER

  45. You wrote that paper? LOL, hell no... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: I did show 2 ways to do it yourself & only took me a few seconds to figure out myself https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (you didn't)!

    * So since you're such a "better programmer" (you said it, now back it up bullshitter - lol, funny you NEVER do (not))?
    INVENTION? OK: WHERE'S YOUR PROGRAMS?

    They're not. Mine are out there (commercially sold code too since 1997 doing GREAT) & doing well by even our /. peers by the DOZENS (& 100k users worldwide) & this was just a HOBBY program of mine.

    APK

    P.S.=> Love how you're TRYING to 'defend' yourself but only proving you're a BLOWHARD no-mind LAZY unskilled TALKER + HUGE fuckup (lmao)... apk

  46. You wrote zero papers. I wrote 3. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear APK,

    I easily ship 100k units in a *year*, not in a lifetime. U R Pathetic. Lern 2 code noob. My pedigree includes HP, SGI, and Cisco. You likely use my software every time you call your psychiatrist's office.

    I have control system with uptimes measured in *decades*. Zero hackers, zero exploits, zero problems. HAPPY CUSTOMERS

    I can't imagine a customer that is happy when he deals with your kind. U R a 1 trick pony that can only copypasta insane off topic rants. I predicted u would do this. U R the chimp, MY chimp. DANCE MONKEY DANCE!

    I'm proven right about C++ with ur own links to my threads. I own u on programming. Everyone sees what a pathetic "man" u r. Keep posting them, it makes me happier every time I read them!

    ZIP

    P.S. => I still don't have an account. I still can't have mod points. And I clearly stated in a later post that my comments about downmodding you were a joke that you clearly did not "get". U owe me an apology for calling me a liar, when in fact u sir r the liar

  47. Prove it (Run, Forrest: RUN!!!)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: ANYONE can talk (& EAT THEIR WORDS like you did lol https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (Keep "ReAcTiNg" blowhard WITH NO PROOF of your BULLSHIT).

    * I LOVE IT!

    Yea, you were RIGHT on a C++ cure - only problem is I SAID IT RIGHT BEFORE YOU in the links above proven so you STUPID chimp, lol! You tried to "take credit" for shit you didn't even THINK of yourself (you can't think - it's beyond your OBVIOUSLY LIMITED DULL BRAIN).

    APK

    P.S.=> You proved you CAN'T THINK FOR YOURSELF wikipedia boy (but I did, see 1st link, only SECONDS of thought) - & this "NOTWARE" (hotairware talk) of yours? WHERE IS IT/WHAT IS IT & did YOU write it, in its ENTIRETY, yourself?? Prove it (I can in seconds on ANYTHING I do, including commercially sold ware of mine from DECADES ago sold by MS certified partners that YOU don't have blowhard CHIMP)... apk

  48. You = Asian "Paper Tiger" Me = Cyberian Tiger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You = Asian "Paper Tiger" (look that up if you're weak on international culture) Me = Cyberian Tiger https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    * There IS a difference (theory vs. REAL world results)... & I know you won't answer here as it will REVEAL you to me, no more hiding (assuming you DO have something but I want to know YOU created it, solely, by yourself, YOUR OWN CODE) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    I doubt it but I give you a FAIR chance to prove otherwise (IF you are doing the RIGHT thing (you can't BE wrong then)? I don't want to BREAK you & as Woody Harrelson said to Wes Snipes in "White Men Can't Jump"?? I've hustled a HELL of a LOT better than you" & won).

    It's what I do.

    APK

    P.S.=> & as I said: I'll let others decide & as you see in that link? They are... apk

  49. It's a trap, obviously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're so desperate to find my real name and address so you can harass me some more?

    I've proved my credentials long enough. You're toast. I see your PUNY work history, and I know that you're nothing, a ne'er-do-well!

    Time and time again I've demonstrated your WEAK technical abilities. You have no response but to change the subject, send out personal attacks, intentionally misinterpret my posts, or spam the entire site with your rantings.

    The funny thing is: I PREDICTED ALL OF THIS.

    ZIP

    P.S. => I mentioned std::string first. I also mentioned ropes first, and their superiority over simple counted strings. You overlook this because you can't conceive of a world where you're not the center of it. But this is reality, and you're my bitchboy

  50. You're deluded: I could care less after by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Your TONS OF BLUNDERS vs. me & you = caught lying https://science.slashdot.org/c... - you can TALK credentials all day long - you've no proof OR authority period from lack of proof.

    Talk's cheap - I've got proof I code & ALSO that even REGISTERED /.ers like/use/praise MY work (not your non-existent HotAirWare/NotWare, lol) & this is only a FRACTION of what I can put out to that effect https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    APK

    P.S.=> You proved you FAILED vs. me via a SIMPLE QUESTION WHO NOTED THE C++ STRINGFIX TO RAYMORRIS 1st, ME or YOU? ME - & you're LOATHE to ADMIT that simple truth/fact, lol - makes me LMAO @ U... apk