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Chinese Scientist Says He's First To Create Genetically Modified Babies Using CRISPR (npr.org)

For the first time, a scientist claims to have used a powerful new gene-editing technique to create genetically modified human babies. From a report: The scientist, He Jiankui of the Southern University of Science and Technology in Shenzhen, China, says he used human embryos modified with the gene-editing technique CRISPR to create twin girls. "Two beautiful little Chinese girls name Lulu and Nana came crying into the world as healthy as any other babies a few weeks ago." He says in a video posted online. "The babies are home now with their mom Grace and their dad Mark." He says his team performed "gene surgery" on embryos created from their parents' sperm and eggs to protect the children from the human immunodeficiency virus, HIV, which causes AIDS. The children' father is HIV-positive. "When Lulu and Nana were just a single cell, this surgery removed a doorway through which HIV enter to infect people," He says in the video, one of several posted online to justify and explain the work. Because the research has not yet been published in a scientific journal or carefully vetted by other scientists, many researchers and bioethicists remain cautious about the claim.

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  1. Re: Very unlikely by reanjr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One guy was already cured of HIV through a bone marrow transplant from another individual with genetic immunity to the disease. To use CRISPR to make the genetic tweak doesn't seem all that farfetched.

  2. Hate to sound like this but.... by DalM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't trust any science claims coming out of China anymore.

    1. Re: Hate to sound like this but.... by DatbeDank · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's not f*cking racism when it's been proven over and over again.

      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Chinese+f...

    2. Re: Hate to sound like this but.... by es330td · · Score: 2

      It is important to note that Dallas May doesn't distrust *Chinese* people, only that he doesn't trust science coming out of China. As it is well established that the Chinese government controls all aspects of information flow stating a distrust of "Information from China" is very different from saying he distrusts a race of people.

    3. Re:Hate to sound like this but.... by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      No it isn't. If done carefully and ethically genetic research and modification has the potential save lives and end untold human suffering. From your post you would have us abandon entire lines of scientific research base on the works of some evil wack job 70 years ago.

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    4. Re: Hate to sound like this but.... by butchersong · · Score: 2

      Well to be fair, objective facts are some of the most racist things you can utter today.

    5. Re:Hate to sound like this but.... by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      Ricky, Ricky, Ricky, you need to get a grip buddy. I know you don't like to be wrong, but you are. Spend some time researching subject, get a better ideal on what you are talking about. Avoid the nazi comparisons too. You lost your argument the moment you mentioned Mengele.

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    6. Re:Hate to sound like this but.... by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      You have to forgive Rick. He had a traumatic event a year ago and hasn't quite got over it.

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    7. Re:Hate to sound like this but.... by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      No one will forgive you for being a sociopath though will they?

      Rick, no need to bring in the sock puppets. If you have something to say, man up and say it. Don't hide behind some anonymous coward id. That is just bad form.

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    8. Re:Hate to sound like this but.... by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      Mmmmm, the butt hurt, strong in this one, it is. I'm really trying to stay on the level with you here. We don't want to let my inner troll out and have him drag you back under that bridge. I'm going to take the high road here and walk away. Figuratively speaking of course.

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    9. Re:Hate to sound like this but.... by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      All science can have unintended consequences. That is the nature of science. Galileo and Copernicus had the unintended consequence of bringing us out of the dark ages of superstition, well most of us. People like Rick would rather let children die of horrible diseases, like cystic fibrosis or Sickle Cell, than seek a cure for them. I imagine they do this because they are afraid of some thing they don't understand.

      It's the unethical use of genetic or the irresponsible that must be stopped. Curing children is one thing but bring about a GATTA like society is completely unethical.

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  3. Chinese kids? by BringsApples · · Score: 3, Funny

    Parents: Grace, Mark

    Are these Chinese names? Shit, am I being racist?

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    1. Re:Chinese kids? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

      Parents: Grace, Mark
        Are these Chinese names?

      It is very common for Chinese people to adopt an English name to use when communicating in English.

      Chinese has phonemes that do not exist in English, and is a tonal language, so Chinese names are often very difficult for native English speakers to properly pronounce. Using an English name makes communication smoother, and also signals that they are attempting a cultural fit rather than just learning the language.

      Shit, am I being racist?

      No. A language is not a race.

  4. Vote me down if you wish.. by dhaen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If true, I think this can be good for the human race. Not to make us all the same, but to make us different. It's accepted that species with wider gene diversity are more resilient. OK some of us may die because of mistakes and wrongdoing but that happens every day in our society anyway - traffic accidents, crime, war etc.

    1. Re:Vote me down if you wish.. by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

      Yeah, plus we can start giving people tails, which I think would be really useful but alas evolution has "decided" we don't need for some reason.

      Also a hand on the end of that tail, perhaps a symmetrical one with two thumbs, would be pretty useful.

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  5. Re: Very unlikely by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Indeed. Innate resistance to HIV is well known. The gene that causes it has been identified, and 23andMe will even tell you if you have that gene.

    With an HIV positive dad, the benefit to these GMO babies outweighs the risks.

  6. What if they visit California? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Funny

    Will they have to have CONTAINS GMO tattoos?

  7. Re: Very unlikely by parkinglot777 · · Score: 2

    The effect of gene modifying in human may not even show up for a long time. We still have to wait for at least another 20-30 years or even human life time. At least these twin girls would be the first guinea pig for the whole human race (regardless the ethical issue which may rise in the future).

  8. Re:Very unlikely by clovis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sorta what you said, but also not.
    From the article you linked

    The second step of virus entry and the first absolutely required for infection entails binding of Env to its primary receptor,the host protein CD4 (Maddon et al. 1986; McDougal et al. 1986). Env is a heavily glycosylated trimer of gp120 and gp41 heterodimers.

    Note the "absolutely required"

    The third step of virus entry, coreceptor binding, is widely thought to be the trigger that activates the membrane fusionpotential of Env. HIV strains can be broadly classified based on their coreceptor usage. Viruses that use the chemokine receptor CCR5 are termed R5 HIV, those that use CXCR4 are termed X4 HIV, and viruses that can use both coreceptors are called R5X4HIV (Berger et al. 1998). There is no compelling evidence that coreceptors other than CCR5 and CXCR4 play important roles in supporting infection of HIV-1 in vivo. With rare exception, only R5 and R5X4 viruses are transmitted between individuals (Keele et al. 2008), likely owing to multiple imperfect but overlapping host restrictions on X4 HIV transmission (reviewed in Margolis and Shattock 2006).

    The NPR.org article says that the researcher blocked the CCR5 pathway, So if the father has the R5 or R5X4 HIV variant, then the genetic modification will indeed prevent the daughter's getting infected from their dad.
    If I recall correctly, this "fix" would also cause the daughters to be immune to the bubonic plague (Yersinia pestis). I suspect that what he did was copy the CCR5 delta 32 mutation into the embryo. it's a mutation known not to be harmful.