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More People Get Their News From Social Media Than Newspapers, Study Finds (engadget.com)

The Pew Research Center has found that more adults get their news from social media than newspapers. "In a survey conducted earlier this year, 20 percent of adults said they often get news via social media while just 16 percent said the same about print newspapers," reports Engadget. "Television topped the list, with 49 percent of respondents saying they get news from TV often while 33 percent and 26 percent of respondents said news websites and radio were significant news sources for them." From the report: Though television is still the dominant news source for American adults, it has been on a decline -- 57 percent of surveyed adults reported getting their news from television regularly back in 2016. And Pew points out that when you look at online news sources together, so either news websites or social media, it's creeping up to TV as the top source, pulling 43 percent of adults combined. But there are significant differences between age groups. TV is by far the most popular news source for adults aged 50 and over while just 16 percent of 18- to 29-year-olds and 36 percent of 30- to 49-year-olds say they often get news via television. Among the youngest adults (aged 18 to 29), social media is the most popular platform for news, and for 30- to 49-year-olds, websites are the top news source.

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  1. Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody but old slashdot readers bother with newspapers.

    1. Re: Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TV is terrible for news because it's the easiest way to make something sensational that doesn't need to be.

    2. Re: Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You got marked as troll, but the truth is that it has been the Democrat party that is the party of slavery, Jim Crow and the KKK.

      Dinesh D'Souza's "Death of a Nation" lays it all out.

    3. Re: Duh by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      TV is terrible for news because it's the easiest way to make something sensational that doesn't need to be.

      Hmm, I would think that social media can do that even faster than TV?

      One stupid social media thing goes viral...and whoosh, off it goes and can't be retracted if a mistake is found (not that TV does that much anymore, but it can do it).

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    4. Re: Duh by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "TV is terrible for news because it's the easiest way to make something sensational that doesn't need to be."

      Care to give us a few examples of news that NEED to be sensational?

  2. Nutrition by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    That's like saying more people get their nutrition from McDonald's than from the grocery store.

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  3. Well now by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    That explains a lot.

    More seriously: I recently resubscribed to our local newspaper after letting it go for about 4-5 years - before that, I’d been a subscriber for a couple decades. I’m debating if I want to continue. Thing is, the long-form journalism that is the strength of a newspaper has been cut way back - it seems they’re trying to appeal to the younger generation and their short attention span. But what they’ve really managed to do is cut down on the amount of information their product now offers. Not to mention that local news coverage is just about gone, excepting sports.

    And the ads! I understand that they can’t rely on classifieds carrying them anymore, but it’s gotten ridiculous. You have to help not through the ads to find the newspaper.

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    1. Re:Well now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of "long form" turns out to be just filler. Maybe they ought to concentrate on bringing actual news with more information available to those who want it. That is, a re-think of just what is and what is not important. Not the deep "sensation!" gap they've fallen into, but actual news.

      Me, I find myself scanning the headlines and occasionally scanning the article for a data point or two ("oh, another article-from-press-release, who's saying this?" where the only interesting datum is who is saying this). Most traditional newspapers' websites are entirely unfit for this kind of reading.

      Which is weird since it's how I used to read newspapers back in the day, learned from my parents. Over here, we (still!) have teletext with a selection of news which I find easier to shoot through than the same broadcaster's news website. In fact I used to actually pay attention to a site like theregister.co.uk, but stopped doing that after they "enhanced" it for "mobile" too much for my reading comfort. Also because el reg went down the "hackers! hacking! with hacks!" hole too much to still be credible as a tech news source. But the last straw was that the "print" (and therefore, all-on-one-page) layout option became unavailable.

      So I think there might well be a market for high-quality news still, but don't ask traditional journalism to provide it. And that's before considering that journalism schools are part of the liberal arts and as such prone to intersectional infection--meaning the reporters graduating from there are incapable of bringing actual news objectively.

    2. Re:Well now by hdyoung · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Long form journalism is still pretty good at the NYT. Other than that, it's mostly moved to the weekly-published magazines. US News and World Report. Economist. Stuff like that.

    3. Re:Well now by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Actually worse then that. Nearly all "local" newspapers are owned by the same gigantic media company, not only are local stories near to non-existent, but you can buy your local paper, and the major newspaper in another city 30km or 400km away. And they'll both have the same articles in it. The news media became a self-fulfilling failure because of two things, they cut the hell out of local reporters and relied heavily on wire services for the news, because they believed that international news was more important then what's going on in your own backyard. Didn't hear about the pyromaniac, or their description, or where they were burning shit in your own town/city/etc? Not a surprise wasn't in the paper, wasn't on the radio, wasn't on TV either. But it was in some shitty little local blog, that someone runs as a hobby because they ran into the same problem, and decided to do something about it.

      If I want to find out what's actually going on, listening to the town/cities radio station will be more helpful but not always. It's far worse with say broadcast media. Growing up, I used to watch CTV-CKCO(Kitchener, Ontario), lot of the big names that ended up in national news service for the 11pm CTV National got their start there. Now? It might have 3 minutes of local news, 28 minutes of wire stories, 5 minutes for the weather and the rest is either commercials or national sports(NHL/CFL/etc), and not even local leagues like the OHL(Ontario regional hockey) anymore. And they keep pushing more of it, more national and less local. And wonder why 95% of their viewership has disappeared in the last 20 years.

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  4. I get my news from YouTube by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    Secular Talk, Dave Packman, The Young Turks. To be honest they're mostly just commenting on BBC stories and some Al Jazeerez. I'll check CNN & MSNBC but both are more or less the Establishment party line. For general news there's Fark (not the comments section, but the aggregator part).

    I think folks stopped caring about newspapers when they started to be 24/7 nonstop corporate propaganda. Back in the day newspapers would muckrake and dig up dirt on powerful men. That was something worth paying for. These days those men either buy out or sue the papers until they toe the line. What's the point.

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    1. Re:I get my news from YouTube by mentil · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately even the muckraking can be corporate propaganda. How do you distinguish an independently-researched expose, from a paid-for hit piece? What we need are quality independent journalists who are directly funded, without being hampered by an amoral editor who'll bury dirty laundry for a payoff or because it doesn't fit their agenda/biases.

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  5. I get my news from slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    anti-social media

    1. Re: I get my news from slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think there is going to be a lot of pressure as well as a lot of tongue wagging on the media to do a 180 and start reporting on every little thing that comes to mind

    2. Re: I get my news from slashdot by PPH · · Score: 1

      a lot of tongue wagging on the media to do a 180

      Personally, I'm going to turn around 360 degrees and walk away.

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    3. Re: I get my news from slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Super double ROT-13!

  6. Hardly surprising, considering the media fight... by MindPrison · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...to death for survival these days, anything goes it seems.

    I'm older than 49 myself, and I def. do not trust general media, so I watch a lot of different media and make a "balanced" judgement based on observations from the various sources in order to figure out what "really" happens.

    We've had numerous examples on how news-media can't be 100 percent trusted, for example - remember the independent journalist Tim Pool decided to see how it was in Sweden? Well, he traveled to the questionable areas that allegedly had lots of trouble, and he noticed that the police was following him around, warning him not to stick around.

    Interestingly enough, that's not the story media in Sweden presented to the majority of the population on the national TV channel, they knew "nothing" of this, and denied everything, despite that - anyone who wanted could watch it on Tim Pool's youtube channel, uncut videos with 100% irrefutable evidence, because he was there, and filmed it all, nothing blurry, nothing cut or censored away, he just uncovered the pure reality.

    And media lied it away, to make everything sound "Normal" to the Swedish population. From that day, those of us who wanted it - had clear evidence that it's being tampered with on a high level. To me - well, I suspected it all along, but - I had some kind of childish naive hope that in rich democratic countries like the Scandinavian countries, we would still be spared this, but no. Sadly not.

    So who are we to trust? Trust no one - only your own down to earth judgement, don't buy the first story you hear, find a second opinion - and a third one, and absolutely NOT go by "popular opinion", always seek the truth, not opinions alone.

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  7. Old news by chromaexcursion · · Score: 1

    Print is dead. The story title is misleading.
    BTW I get no news from social media, only stupid people do. Sadly, there are a lot of stupid people.

  8. Re: Hardly surprising, considering the media fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In japan we have our own stories, except for the few foreign selections we hand pick. The only thing we think is cute is when businessmen hog sleeping tubes when there is a long line. Is China similar? Maybe China pays additional tariffs to japan to handle goods - just a thought, donâ(TM)t mind me

  9. Doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its all just click bait.

  10. And where does the social media get the news by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Everyone gets their news from the news sources.

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    1. Re:And where does the social media get the news by themusicgod1 · · Score: 1

      From people who are actually local to whatever story is happening. Or people who have a say about issues that require research.
      Which thanks to social media, you can actually find.
      It's not like the 1980's where only newspapers could have the organizational chutzpah to have people in the countries they were covering. It takes about a dozen clicks to find someone, and it's free to talk to them, to get a local PoV.

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    2. Re:And where does the social media get the news by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 1

      Everyone gets their news from the news sources.

      Um... no.

      Some of it is mistakenly (or perhaps not mistakenly) referred to as “citizen journalism,” though perhaps, as citizens are not generally trained as journalists, and aren’t held to standards of any kind for rigor or integrity, and are only judged by whether something is riviting or capable of “going viral,” it should be called “shitizen journalism”. Some of it is journalism but imagining that sort of thing to be real journalism is like imagining the length of rope you replaced your fanbelt with to be a competent permanent replacement, instead of just something that might, maybe, manage to get you home.

      Also, when your great aunt Edith posts a screengrab of a news story that WAS produced by someone trained and schooled in journalism and by someone who having to answer for professional ethics to an editorial staff whose purpose is to reduce the odds of their organization being responsible for disseminating bullshit, and also able to think critically, and know what lines of inquiry need to be pursued, when they’re encountering a smokescreen, etc., and you don't go to the original source, the person whose time and effort went into finding and bringing you that story didn't get paid a fucking penny for it.

      He starves to death, or she has to drive a Luber when not reporting because of the epidemic of people confusing the firehose of bullshit that social media sites and the morons who use them mistake for news, with real, actual news.

      Democratization is great under some, but not ALL circumstances. Imagine if someone applied the Uber/Lyft model to BRAIN SURGERY. A loophole in the law allows people to do brain surgery after doing an 8-hour online course provided they have a trained doctor supervising remotely, so a group of retired doctors take shifts for a fee, “supervising” a bank of of TVs showing feeds from UberBrainSurgery living-room operating theaters. What do you think the chances are of having a successful brain tumor removed or aneurism reduced without insurance coverage, by one of these guys for the low-low price of only three easy payments of $19.95?

      That's what quality journalism you can expect if people don't pay for their news. Not all the “news” in a social media “news” feed comes from a legitimate and reliable, trustworthy news source, and if the people who hunted down and covered the stories, and ALL their support crew don’t get fucking paid, all you’ll be left with is the plucky schmuck with his iPhone who thinks that having a camera and microphone with him everywhere he goes makes him a fucking reporter, which is about as true as the idea that having a microphone and Autotune makes you a fucking singer.

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    3. Re:And where does the social media get the news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as citizens are not generally trained as journalists, and aren’t held to standards of any kind for rigor or integrity

      It's been my observation that most journalists in the US don't have any rigor, ethics, or integrity, either, so I'm not really sure what distinction you're trying to make here.

    4. Re:And where does the social media get the news by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      Everyone gets their news from the news sources.

      Um... no.

      Some of it is mistakenly (or perhaps not mistakenly) referred to as “citizen journalism,” though perhaps, as citizens are not generally trained as journalists, and aren’t held to standards of any kind for rigor or integrity, and are only judged by whether something is riviting or capable of “going viral,” it should be called “shitizen journalism”. Some of it is journalism but imagining that sort of thing to be real journalism is like imagining the length of rope you replaced your fanbelt with to be a competent permanent replacement, instead of just something that might, maybe, manage to get you home.

      Can you draw a distinction between this and what Jim Acosta does? Because, other than having a court ordered pass to roam the halls of the White House, I don't see any.

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    5. Re:And where does the social media get the news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...trained as journalists, and aren’t held to standards of any kind for rigor or integrity...

      Absolutely hilarious! Did you manage to type that with a straight face? If so, you really need to learn some history - "fake news" is not new.

    6. Re:And where does the social media get the news by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 1

      Um... who is Jim Acosta again, and when did I mention him? What network or paper does he or did he work for? I vaguely recall a story about him getting booted from the Whitehouse by fascits or something, but I don’t actually read/listen to him. What do his various faults or failings have to do with where news actually comes from? Or are you implying that most of the media are just like him, whatever problem you have with him... in which case, why not say so? If that’s what you mean, you might have a point... the buying up and corporatizing of news media is an alarming and disheartening trend... a great reason to find a publicly supported only news source and ditch the corrupt, useless, corporate-owned shitty ones.

      I like Democracy Now (democracynow.org) but it’s easy to overdose on DN, and get really depressed. I think the Guardian is a good one too, but I have yet to really look into them.

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  11. News by tquasar · · Score: 1

    I don't use social media. I get home delivery of the Los Angeles Times(California,USA) which I believe provides reliable info about local and world news and events.Also read a variety of news websites from the US, Europe and Asia. I have always read a lot maybe because my dad read to me and my siblings when I was two or three years old. I trust young people to recognize fact from fiction,

  12. Newspapers, as in actual paper newspapers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So after checking the article, they are comparing to actual print newspapers. So any number much above zero is going to win that one. Plus this is one of those studies that ask people if they "often get" which adds up to more than 100% (144% actually). I'm more surprised that 16% still claim they often get news from print newspapers.

  13. define 'news' by swell · · Score: 1

    If news means keeping up with your schoolmates- go with social media.
    If news means deep celebrity or fashion insights - yeah, social media.
    If news means more verbal vomit from the White House -  social media.
    If news means trends in money markets - go thou to conventional media.
    If news means morning weather and traffic - look in conventional media.
    If news means Brexit or the Middle East - trust the conventional media.

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    1. Re:define 'news' by AHuxley · · Score: 0

      Re "trust the conventional media"
      That worked so well for past US wars and UK politics.

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    2. Re:define 'news' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, you're saying those damned Spanish didn't blow up the Maine?

      People like to call the media whores, but that's pretty insulting. Whores are honest about what they do.

  14. and TV is mostly a Comedy Central by raymorris · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A few years ago there was a survey asking people where they got their news. The number one TV show people reported getting news from was The Daily Show, a comedy show.

    So "news" these days, to most people, means Facebook or a comedian.

    I find it interesting, and scary, to compare various news sources on the same day. You'll get a COMPLETELY different view of the world depending on which news source(s) you choose. Ever wonder why the heck the guy you're arguing with is so F-ing stupid, why he can't see things that are obvious to you? He's living in an entirely different world, that's why.

    Every day CNN's front page has a story about a bad cop, or a cop who royally screwed up. It may be an update about something a bad cop did a year ago. These stories are mostly true. Also every day Fox has a story about a cop beimg hero, doing something generous or brave. These stories are pretty much true as well. Readers get a 180 degree completely opposite opinion of cops, depending on which stories their news source covers.

    Same on any other topic. MSNBC will run a stories every day with a particular slant on the topic, the Washington Times will run some will the opposite slant - all true(ish). The Daily Show will do jokes that sound like news stories, slanted far enough to become fiction.

    The other guy can't see your point of view because the news of the world in his world is the opposite of what you see every day. That's why he's being ridiculous - and you're being just as ridiculous, if you're like 95% of people.

    1. Re:and TV is mostly a Comedy Central by Tom · · Score: 1

      A few years ago there was a survey asking people where they got their news. The number one TV show people reported getting news from was The Daily Show, a comedy show.

      And I'm not surprised in the least. Over here in Germany, the quality of reporting and especially commenting upon anything related to politics, the economy or most topics of society is considerably higher in comedy shows than on the daily news. I thought that a fluke the first time I noticed it, but over the years it has become even more so.

      Maybe comedy is the only channel that still knows how to be critical? I'm not sure, but for a long time now, if you want to be informed about what's going on, a few comedy shows will give you more background information and more analysis than all the news and political shows and talk shows and whatever else combined.

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    2. Re:and TV is mostly a Comedy Central by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      A few years ago there was a survey asking people where they got their news. The number one TV show people reported getting news from was The Daily Show, a comedy show.

      What's even funnier is the The Daily Show also won several Peabody awards over the years. I always found it somewhat odd that Jon Stewart would always brag about winning that but when asked if he felt any responsibility for his reporting he would insist it was just a comedy show and not news.

    3. Re:and TV is mostly a Comedy Central by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      A few years ago there was a survey asking people where they got their news. The number one TV show people reported getting news from was The Daily Show, a comedy show.

      When ever I have to fill out any information about myself I am always a black Jewish Lesbian that is over 100 years old and attended Harvard. The worst way to get information from people is to ask them questions in a survey.

      I daresay a certain percent of people said they got their news from The Daily Show as a joke. Especially if the question was worded as such:

      Where Do you get your news:
      a) CNN
      b) Fox News
      c) The Daily Show
      d-g) some other options.

      People will see The Daily Show on the list and check it with a chuckle. I doubt that there are many people reading this that hasn't deliberately checked an incorrect response on a survey just for a laugh. Even on official government censuses there are always campaigns to get people say their religion is Jedi, didn't Jedi get enough responses in the UK last time to now be an officially recognized state religion?

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    4. Re:and TV is mostly a Comedy Central by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      didn't Jedi get enough responses in the UK last time to now be an officially recognized state religion?

      To answer myself, it got a little less than 1% of the responses in one census but was treated as a protest/refuse to answer response by the government. Unofficially it was the 4th largest religion reported in the census. Some areas got over 2.5% people saying their religion was Jedi. And this was on an official government run census where some people might surely fear legal reprisal.

      Some random organization asking questions- you'll get way more people giving fake answers for a laugh.

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    5. Re:and TV is mostly a Comedy Central by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's funny is that in all objective studies, those who got their news from Daily Show were much, MUCH more informed of reality than those who watched right wing sources. It's an indictment of the entire US that the objectively most accurate source of truthful information is a comedy show.

  15. yeah, its true by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    Some one whatsapped me about this...

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  16. Re:Hardly surprising, considering the media fight. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    That would depend on when you saw the reports on Swedish TV.

    There was some coverage after Pool's first two days of walking around Malmo, when he encountered - no trouble. It was later in his visit that he did experience the trouble you describe, and that was also covered in local media - but not a lot, because when there's masked gangs and rioting in your streets, frankly a non-violent encounter happening to some busybody foreign journalist doesn't seem all that newsworthy.

    You're insinuating that there was a conspiracy to cover up the truth. To that I say, link or STFU.

  17. I have both by Amigori · · Score: 2
    I still have a newspaper subscription to my house, plus their online edition. The bonuses: a finite amount to read, more local articles vs national, the big sports stat tables on one page, the comics, and the puzzles.

    Social media is good for friends and family, independent news, and news from all corners of the world. But its infinite (essentially)! Easily distracting and the biggest time sink humanity has ever created.

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    1. Re:I have both by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are nuttier than a fruitcake! Social media is absolutely the least trustworthy place to get news! Most of the "news" on social media is just someon'e opinion, propaganda, or fake news!

    2. Re:I have both by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lolindoctrinated much? Your newspaper is fake as fuck

    3. Re:I have both by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      Can you draw the distinction between this and what is aired on CNN, MSNBC and Fox?

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  18. Are you unaware you're promoting Nazism? by raymorris · · Score: 1

    I don't think you've thought this through. Unless of course you're a neo-Nazi.

    There was a question about the policy of the South African government. I quoted the actual written policy of the government, the exact words of their announcement. What I quoted was, by definition, their announced policy, because it was their actual words. So my post is the very definition of truth.

    Your assertion is that truth is Nazism, that truth and Nazism are the same thing.
    You assert Nazism == truth.

    I'm not sure that's a wise thing to say.

    1. Re:Are you unaware you're promoting Nazism? by mermeid007 · · Score: 1

      Did anyone challenge this assertion?

    2. Re:Are you unaware you're promoting Nazism? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I checked the comment, against my better judgment.

      But then I also checked the policy according to the South African government, and strangely, the AC was correct.

      Not saying raymorris is a neo-nazi, but he is completely incorrect about the SA policy, and in his comment above, proves himself a liar.

      Did you not think people couldn't find the text on the internet? Why do right wingers assume that because THEY can't, that nobody else can?

  19. Re: NAZI PROPAGANDIST RAY MORRIS CAUGHT DEAD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok I followed the link and there's nothing about Nazis there.

    You're just one more of the retards that flames people about something they supposedly posted in the past when it's completely unrelated to this article or comments.

    Get a life.

  20. Given how much mainstream media was caught faking by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    A few years ago there was a survey asking people where they got their news. The number one TV show people reported getting news from was The Daily Show, a comedy show.

    So "news" these days, to most people, means Facebook or a comedian.

    Given how much the mainstream media was caught faking the news, many perceive it as comedy already. So they probably decided they might as well watch a professional comedian do a more entertaining job of delivering honestly faked-as-convenient-for-him "infotainment-like art product".

    At least he's more funny than the gloom-and-doom "news presenters".

    Television news has been bunk since (at least) before the advent of Turner's original CNN. The network execs got the idea that people were watching news for entertainment rather than accurate information, and decided providing the former was cheaper. When all three (at the time) networks were doing it, there was nowhere for those who wanted TV news to turn, creating the market opportunity for Turner, and the new satellite/cable combination gave him the tech to seize it. (Unfortunately he sold out, first figuratively, then literally.)

    Newspapers were ALWAYS one-sided and poorly researched bunk. (E.g.: "Yellow Journalism". Or all the way back to Franklin's health advice to avoid Jenner's vaccination.) Think: Did a newspaper EVER get it right for ANY story where you knew what was REALLY going on? Did they even spell the bride's name right?

    Freedom of the Press works by letting ALL the biases have their own papers, giving every story, and all substantial sides of it, an opportunity to be heard. When newspapers consolidated down to one major outlet per city, that diversity was lost.

    Now just about the only opportunity for news to flow freely is the Internet, and the main access point for those without an ongoing axe to grind is social media.

    Sure it's a mix of facts, falsehoods, and fluff, and you have to do your own filtering. But the "professional news media" has pretty much ALWAYS been that. There were a few decades where broadcast was king, the cost kept the number of players down to those you could count on one hand, and they pretended to give accurate and unbiased coverage to everything of importance. But that illusion has been popped by general access to unedited Internet distribution.

    Let's hope "The Invisible Hand" and "The Internet sees censorship as failure and routes around it" keeps that access open, as the major social media providers impose their own censorship.

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  21. NAZI PROPAGANDIST RAY MORRIS CAUGHT DEAD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.

  22. Why not? by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

    Most newspapers these days do nothing but repost trending topics from social media and impart their own lies and biases to boot.

    Why wouldn't most people go directly to social media to get the same information sooner and with less spin?

    Journalism is dead. Honest and accurate reporting is a lot of work and it doesn't make much money anymore.

  23. Proof we have reached critical mass... by zkiwi34 · · Score: 1

    Of idiots.

  24. not providing more than the US ban by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Get Their News From Social Media ...

    When radio and television came along, they assumed the responsibility of providing the news, mostly by buying it from reputable journalists. When social media came along, the corporations weren't interested in being responsible or giving-back to subscribers: That cost money, besides the business model was repackaging free content, not providing more than the US ban on nudity and recreational drugs.

  25. Because it'easier to be stupid by aglider · · Score: 1

    Intelligence requires efforts.
    It's like you get stock quotations from your neighbour TV instead of nyse.com.

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  26. What news? by evanh · · Score: 1

    Until the invasion of Iraq, I never got news from any designated channels. My informative behaviour changed, though, as a result of the national downward slide that I found distasteful.

    I imagine the youth of today that don't have a perception of "before" will be similar now to how I was before.

  27. Social Media = Upgrade by jetkust · · Score: 1

    Just because it's social media doesn't mean it's any worse. You still are allowed to think rationally and interpret the information for yourself. It's more dangerous to have a "trusted" source of information you never question or cross check, which can happen in any medium.

    1. Re:Social Media = Upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, but how many people actually do that. It's fine to say that people can and should cross-check the information that they receive, whatever the source, but, as recent events have made all too clear, they don't. When something 'feels right' because it aligns with your viewpoint or comes from someone you admire or trust, then there is a tendency not to dig deeper. Its the reason why a relatively small investment in disinformation can can have a disproportionate effect - once you get it to a few 'influencers' (individuals or media outlets) then it will fly.

  28. Re:Hardly surprising, considering the media fight. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Social media is a sewage pipe with occasional diamonds in it. I've watched it rip apart the fake news being pushed by mainstream media - as you note in Sweden, but also in the US and UK.

    No wonder the establishment wants it controlled - and the mainstream media wants its place back as the messenger of the establishment.

  29. What do you mean by establishment? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Secular Talk, Dave Packman, The Young Turks. To be honest they're mostly just commenting on BBC stories and some Al Jazeerez. I'll check CNN & MSNBC but both are more or less the Establishment party line.

    It's weird that you say that after saying that most of your news is from state-run news agencies.

  30. shot in their foot by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    My local newspaper is pay walled and I don't think it's worth $285 a year just to read the first couple of pages and throw all the other bullshit away. I'm saving trees and money. Television? I thought that died with those phones you plug into the wall.

  31. Nonsense! by mschaffer · · Score: 2

    This is nonsense as news is the original social media feed.

  32. About Equal Quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, this isn't really news, anyway. Social Media and Newspapers are about equal in quality and depth of reporting.

    The only real difference, and the reason I will still have newspapers delivered, is because newspapers make really good lining for my bird cages, and are useful for starting fires in the fireplace. For just pennies a day I have both use cases covered.

  33. Newspapers == dying media. by mjwx · · Score: 1

    Honestly, I've never bought a newspaper in my adult life and I'm near to pushing 40... Almost all of the same content can be found online without the 24 hour time delay. The problem traditional print media has with this isn't losing out on the $1.50 they used to get but the huge advertising revenue from a near captive audience. Online advertising doesn't generate the same revenue.

    Add to that the fact that most commercial papers are now just mouthpieces for their chosen political parties, its little wonder they've lost all trust amongst the general public and they are only kept alive by subscribers who are actively trying to avoid reading news that conflicts with their warped world view... Which is why papers like the Daily Mail are losing readership the slowest.

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  34. 'Tis true... by MerlTurkin · · Score: 1

    I stopped buying newspapers over 20 years ago. Very little news, mostly advertising. Price increases for a paper that was onion skin thin. Complete waste of money. The online versions are cheaper but with just as many ads so screw them too. TV/Radio and Twitter are basically my sources today. Newspapers can blame themselves for putting themselves out of business. The post office is no better, they're pricing themselves out too and the service seems to be getting worse. More news stories of mail being dumped by postal employees in woods and dumpsters.

    1. Re:'Tis true... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The post office is no better, they're pricing themselves out too and the service seems to be getting worse. More news stories of mail being dumped by postal employees in woods and dumpsters.

      I've heard this before, but everytime I've seen it covered it has been proven false. I do know that nobody I've ever known has had a package or letter go missing form USPS. Do you have any links?

      On the other hand, I don't know a single person who hasn't had packages lost from UPS or Fedex. I've had several go missing (although typically it was stuff I ordered online so it was imminently replaceable) but several people I know have lost thousands of dollars in irreplaceable items that simply vanished, and neither one of the private delivery services would even pretend like they cared.

  35. Hopefully ... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

    ... it helps people realize that what is "news" has always been subjective.

    It's not like the three big sellers of laundry detergent ads, or the big syndicate sellers of classified and print ads, had some sort of magical truthy dust that made their "news" super accurate.

    1. Re:Hopefully ... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      ... it helps people realize that what is "news" has always been subjective.

      It's not like the three big sellers of laundry detergent ads, or the big syndicate sellers of classified and print ads, had some sort of magical truthy dust that made their "news" super accurate.

      In other words, hopefully the very crappiness of Facebook "news" helps people learn that.

  36. Newspapers are bought out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Newspapers tend to be bought out by capital groups, defunded, assets sold, budgets slashed, then left to go bankrupt on their own, after all their assets are raided.

    Problem is that between this corporate raiding, and the propagandization of news sources, it is hard to obtain actual coverage other than directly from social media sharing.

  37. I do this too .... by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    The headline makes it sound like a bad thing. But in reality, I have a lot of Facebook friends who are into news related to science and tech, as well as politics and current events. They're often posting URLs linking back to relevant news articles of interest. And especially these days, they're all rather careful to pick and choose the sources because of all the "Fake news!" backlash.

    (Even if I already know about something that happened that's clearly legitimate news, like a celebrity death or a new tech announcement from Apple or Intel, I try to find a respected news site with the article to link to, vs. some blog page that covered it.)

    Facebook is just kind of an aggregator of knowledge people feel like sharing. It helps me find news items of interest without sitting through a whole night's TV news broadcast to get only 30 second summaries of things, and a whole lot of "fluff" I don't care about at all.

  38. Don't read newspapers, and don't watch the news by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

    But I also do not get my news from Social Media.
    I have a list of sites that I go to for the news.
    CNN
    Local News Site
    CBSNews
    USA Today
    LA Times
    ABC News
    Washington Post
    National Review
    Time

    Yes, I am republican. I am sure it breaks the few bigoted liberals here that they don't see Fox news listed. Can't stand Fox news, reminds me of MSNBC. Just as uninformed, just as biased, and just as bigoted.

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  39. I get my news from Slashdot! by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 2

    Seriously, the good thing about a forum like this is, if someone spouts BS, the people will jump on them. Of course, if it's not BS, they'll still get jumped on, but at least there's a chance of reading both sides.

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    1. Re:I get my news from Slashdot! by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

      It's good to have your own ideas challenged, too. Noone has a monopoly on truth, and life experience will always prove that.

  40. Real Time News by ememisya · · Score: 1

    The good thing about a paper is that it stays that way once you print it. If the news screwed up, you physically need to throw away the old one, and buy a new one. If we had no printed media, I don't think we would have heard of anything Snowden released.

  41. They do watch - Daily Show rating vs NBC, CBS by raymorris · · Score: 1

    The Daily Show with Jon Stewart had ratings as high or higher than NBC and CBS news. Particularly among the 18-49 age group. So they are / were watching. How much efect does constant exposure to propaganda have? We don't know exactly, but we do know that companies and politicians spend billions on advertising because it works.

    Multiple surveys showed that a significant percentage of people thought Sarah Palin said things that were actually said by Tina Fey. In a photo line-up, people were more likely to choose Fey than the real Palin.

    1. Re:They do watch - Daily Show rating vs NBC, CBS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Multiple surveys showed that a significant percentage of people thought Sarah Palin said things that were actually said by Tina Fey.

      Considering the things that Sarah Palin has actually said, that should raise the population's assumed IQ of Palin by at least 10 points. Even Tina Fey trying to sound stupid can't sound as retarded as Sarah Palin earnestly trying to sound normal.

  42. This just in: People tend to be stupid by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    Wow what a surprise, didn't see that coming! :-(

  43. "From" versus "Via" by eepok · · Score: 2

    News comes FROM a source and is delivered VIA a medium.

    Facebook does not participate in journalism or news distribution. People post articles from news media organizations on Facebook and people read them.

    Similarly, one doesn't "get their news" from Google News. They get news from Reuters, New York Times, LA Times, Boston Globe, WSJ, etc. and its delivered via Google News.

    Of course, one could also "get their news" from the New York Times via their print newspaper, but that's arguably inconsequentially different from reading the NYT online.

  44. It's usually not that hard by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    just go look at other content made by the same media outlet. It's no secret Fox News is in the tank for the GOP or that MSNBC is in it for the Clinton wing of the Democratic party. 20 minutes on either site will tell you that. Similarly folks like Secular Talk are part of the left wing progressive movement while Alex Jones and crew again are tanking it for the GOP.

    Now, how to get folks with little or no critical thinking skills to do that is beyond me. It is something that can be taught, but you generally need to do that when they're kids or they're too busy to learn...

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  45. Re:Given how much mainstream media was caught faki by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also including the objective fact that people who consume news only from the Daily Show are much more informed about reality than someone who gets their news from Fox News, Breitbart, Drudge Report, and all the right wing outlets. The state of news in America is outright sad, and it's almost completely due to the fact that some snowflakes can't handle reality unless it fits their worldview, which created a market for right wing fake news to make them feel better about themselves.

  46. Re:Given how much mainstream media was caught faki by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 1

    In fairness to us, the news is so unremittingly aweful that we NEED to have it sugarcoated to render it possible to swallow, Before maligning people for getting news from commedians or commedians for making something actually redeming and useful to society of their longtime habit of being topical, bear in mind that, sad as it is to say, if there weren't commedians, a lot of people would be less informed than they are.

    Try watching Democracy Now, (democracynow.org) a few days in a row instead of the flaming propaganda bullshit that has become of corporate-owned “news” “organizations” and you’ll likely have to have a drink, or several. If you knew what was actually going on, you’d need medication just to get through a day. Now imagine a commedian taking what Amy Goodman, Juan González, or Nermeen Shaikh (et al.) say daily, and making them funny and therefore less horrible.
    I’d watch that.

    If you’re curious about them here’s their “about” text:

    Democracy Now! produces a daily, global, independent news hour hosted by award-winning journalists Amy Goodman and Juan González. Our reporting includes breaking daily news headlines and in-depth interviews with people on the front lines of the world’s most pressing issues. On Democracy Now!, you’ll hear a diversity of voices speaking for themselves, providing a unique and sometimes provocative perspective on global events.

    Democracy Now! is broadcast daily across the United States and Canada as well as in countries around the world. Our program is on Pacifica, NPR, community, college and satellite radio stations; on PBS, public, community and satellite TV; and viewed by millions of people online each day. Our headlines are broadcast in Spanish on radio stations across the U.S., Central and South America, and in Europe.

    Democracy Now! launched in 1996, airing on nine radio stations. More than two decades later, we have grown to be one of the leading U.S.-based independent daily news broadcasts in the world.

    As an independent news program, Democracy Now! is audience-supported, which means that our editorial independence is never compromised by corporate or government interests. Since our founding in 1996, Democracy Now! has held steadfast to our policy of not accepting government funding, corporate sponsorship, underwriting or advertising revenue.

    People don't like having to “eat their vegetables,” but we need to. Commedians take those veggeis and make them more palatable.

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