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China To Force Changes To 20 Popular Games, Ban 9 Including Fortnite and PUBG (bbc.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC: A panel of censors set up to vet mobile video games in China has signaled it will be hard to please. State media reports that of the first 20 titles it assessed, nine were refused permission to go on sale. The Xinhua news agency added that developers of the other 11 had been told they had to make adjustments to remove "controversial content." The authorities have voiced concerns about the violent nature of some titles as well as worries about the activity being addictive.

It was announced in August that a new body -- the State Administration of Press and Publications -- had taken over responsibility for approving games and that it would limit the number of online titles available. And although it has not been specified, some experts are assuming that the new panel will operate under its auspices. Xinhua said it is comprised of gaming experts, government-employed researchers, and representatives from the media and video games industry. But it provided no other information about who they were or the titles they had already examined.
UPDATE: The list of games being examined by the ethics panel has been revealed by users on NGA, a Chinese gaming forum. A number of games, such as League of Legends, Overwatch, Diablo, and World of Warcraft, will need "corrective action," while others will be "banned/withdrawn" entirely. Some of the most popular prohibited titles include Fortnite and PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds (PUBG).

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  1. Don't Sell to China... by Zurkeyon3733 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Terrible, barbaric, tyrannical governments that censor every little thing, should be CUT OFF FROM THE WORLD. Sell them NOTHING. Change NOTHING for them. Tell them take it or LEAVE it.

    1. Re:Don't Sell to China... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Middle-class Chinese are traveling a lot these days. Let tourists discover what despite their new prosperity they can no longer have at home.

    2. Re:Don't Sell to China... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Some pinko lefty?!

      The pinko lefties are cheering for censorship these days. They've been crusading against women showing any kind of skin harder than ISIS.

    3. Re:Don't Sell to China... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      Terrible, barbaric, tyrannical governments that censor every little thing, should be CUT OFF FROM THE WORLD. Sell them NOTHING. Change NOTHING for them. Tell them take it or LEAVE it.

      They outnumber us, and, well... the entire Western World. We don't cut them off from the world... they cut us off. If they ever come close to parity for production/earnings as the West they would easily be able to dominate the world. It's a shame about their government choice, for sure. I wish India would hurry up and modernize their economy and get to Western standards. Politically India is closer to the West in ideals and outlook. I'd much rather them dominate the world than China.

      Just like the US has been able to enforce it's will around the globe for the last 80 years- give it a generation and China will be doing that. I don't like the sound of China modeling the world in it's image.

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      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    4. Re:Don't Sell to China... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Middle-class Chinese are traveling a lot these days. Let tourists discover what despite their new prosperity they can no longer have at home.

      It is harder to organize dissent when everything you do is tracked and recorded. Not saying it won't happen, but it's a lot harder to organize a protest now than it was in the 1980's.

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      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    5. Re:Don't Sell to China... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Right. Just like how movies teach you how to use firearms. The 'survival' skills you learn in these games will get you killed in about 10 seconds flat in the real world. Turns out that in the real world, getting shot 5 times can't be fixed by wrapping some bandages around your arm or taking some pain pills. You'll just be dead. And you can't just join the next game 90 seconds later.

    6. Re:Don't Sell to China... by lgw · · Score: 2

      The notion is that videogame characters ...

      It's doesn't matter what the "notion" is. To Hell with any group pushing for censorship of any legal entertainment content. The censorious part of the left is every bit as bad as the right-wing religious whackos. A pox on both their houses.

      We can do without moral scolds of any variety.

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      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    7. Re:Don't Sell to China... by NettiWelho · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They'll start doing it on holiday before their gov cracks down on foreign holidays.

      The new social credit score system keeps the ones in the country who might be interested in such things. Disagreeing with government bans you from using any kind of mass transit, loan or even your kids access to school.

  2. Maybe they are right this time by lucasnate1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I see how crazily obsessed children are with Fortnite, when I see some adults here, comparing a Fortnite ban to human rights violation, it makes me think that maybe banning this shit would be a good thing.

    GROW. UP.

    (And if we have to talk about what china are doing, let's talk about their violations of human rights)

    1. Re: Maybe they are right this time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I dunno, I could see a Chinese made Sim Concentration Camp being a big hit. It's educational.

      NPC

    2. Re:Maybe they are right this time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Man, authoritarians on all sides. Sucks to be a normal person who just wants to be free.

    3. Re:Maybe they are right this time by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you are talking in terms of "they are right this time", i.e. "I'm against banning things... except the stuff I don't like", then perhaps you need to read up a bit about what human rights are and why we have them.

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    4. Re: Maybe they are right this time by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Let's wait and see. The problem is that China is simply such a huge market that if they can land a hit in China, this would easily pick up the slack even if they totally bombed in the US and Europe.

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    5. Re:Maybe they are right this time by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Interesting

      When I see how crazily obsessed children are with Fortnite, when I see some adults here, comparing a Fortnite ban to human rights violation, it makes me think that maybe banning this shit would be a good thing.

      I hate Fortnight and PUBG and that whole genre of FPS games too!

      That's not what the worry is about, the worry is about yet another form of censorship from the world's largest market that will have impacts on us. It's getting to the point that what happens in China matters for the rest of the world. Just like people all over the world watch the American elections and dread which nincompoop gets elected this time, we're all going to start paying attention to China more- what China says and does has ripple effects throughout the world. Any move from China in the wrong direction means (in this global era) that it will impact what we have access to. And yes, Fortnight might be ridiculous crap, but even if you're more highbrow, your opera might be next, the ending has to change, or your films (no Asian allowed to be depicted as a villain- no capitalist or democratic sentiment in films).

      China is big enough now that the problems of China's citizens are our problems.

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      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    6. Re:Maybe they are right this time by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

      IN China? Very few. FOR China? Very many.

      China is a huge market. And unlike the Euro/US market it is growing, rapidly so. And a market that the big studios still don't sell well in.

      Fanboys will gobble up next year's "Generic Game Title 19". They have shown time and again that they will, no matter whether the game is any good. They buy it. And defend it tooth and nail against anyone pointing out that the quality has been deteriorating for years. They will buy GGT19 even if it's a weak port of a phone game (because phone games is what sells in China).

      But the Chinese will only buy GGT19 if it's a phone game.

      So take a wild guess what GGT19 will be.

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    7. Re:Maybe they are right this time by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Man, authoritarians on all sides. Sucks to be a normal person who just wants to be free.

      Freedom has been taken for granted many places in the world for a few generations. We're probably overdue our cheque. The bill will probably be another generation of young people losing their lives.

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      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    8. Re:Maybe they are right this time by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Is it though. It's not that different to burning books, and as the saying goes "where you burn books on Monday you burn people on Tuesday". Or something like that.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  3. Build a (fire)wall around china by geekymachoman · · Score: 2

    Cut them off. Spare them the trouble of sifting through content and them deciding what should be allowed and what not. Maybe their citizens start rebelling then, but probably not, so just keep it up.

  4. I wonder if they'll have to "update" Civilization by supremebob · · Score: 2

    I mean, how dare Firaxis not make the Chinese military units in Civilization more powerful than everyone else. They need to update that game for the Chinese market, so whoever plays that character always wins!

  5. Re:Who cares about them banning games? by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 2

    Think your games will remain as they are? Think again.

    Or they can simply modify the edition the Chinese get. IIRC, Bungie had to make modifications to Myth for the European market, because some countries had a thing against blood in games, so they made the blood green. I think they also made enemies that exploded turn into confetti instead of a pile of carnage, but that might have been another game. I think Wolfenstein had to do the same thing in Germany because of the swastikas. Sure, it's probably a pain in the neck, but it can be done.

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  6. Re:You 'Muricans are funny by sabt-pestnu · · Score: 2

    When you step down off your soap box, you should look to your own critical thinking skills, and look up Whataboutism.

  7. Re:Who cares about them banning games? by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, Germany has a stream of bullshit changes to pander to their ridiculous Bundesprüfstelle to defend kids against reality (IIRC that's the most accurate translation), and in general they were hilarious. Top of my head I remember the suicide bombers in C&C Generals being gurneys with little bombs on them. But that's far from the most ridiculous change ever made in a game to get an a-ok from them.

    But we're not talking about cosmetic changes here. If you look at the reasons given as to why the games were banned, including reasons like "rewards given based on rank", "distorted concepts of history and culture" and "game missions include fraud", this means that fundamental aspects of the game, its core mechanics and the story it tries to tell, are suddenly no-gos.

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    We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
  8. If addiction is a concern by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It seems China has the same issues the United States has in that folks with kiddos either:

    1) Don't know how or
    2) Don't want to be bothered

    with actually being a parent.

    The simple fix for that Fortnite addiction is to simply not allow them to play it for excessive amounts of time.

    You know. . . . BE a parent.

  9. On Board by ememisya · · Score: 2

    Banning Fortnite? For once I'm not mad at China.