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Intel Reveals 10nm Sunny Cove CPU Cores That Go Deeper, Wider, and Faster (pcworld.com)
Long criticized for reusing old cores in its recent CPUs, Intel on Wednesday showed off a new 10nm Sunny Cove core that will bring faster single-threaded and multi-threaded performance along with major speed bumps from new instructions. From a report: Sunny Cove, which many believe will go into Intel's upcoming Ice Lake-U CPUs early next year, will be "deeper, wider, and smarter," said Ronak Singhal, director of Intel's Architecture Cores Group.
Singhal said the three approaches should boost the performance of Sunny Cove CPUs. By doing "deeper," Sunny Cove cores find greater opportunities for parallelism by increasing the cache sizes. "Wider" means the new cores will execute more operations in parallel. Compared to the Skylake architecture (which is also the basis of Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake chips), the chip goes from a 4-wide design to 5-wide. Intel says Sunny Cove also increases performance in specialized tasks by adding new instructions that will improve the speed of cryptography and AI and machine learning.
Singhal said the three approaches should boost the performance of Sunny Cove CPUs. By doing "deeper," Sunny Cove cores find greater opportunities for parallelism by increasing the cache sizes. "Wider" means the new cores will execute more operations in parallel. Compared to the Skylake architecture (which is also the basis of Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake chips), the chip goes from a 4-wide design to 5-wide. Intel says Sunny Cove also increases performance in specialized tasks by adding new instructions that will improve the speed of cryptography and AI and machine learning.
No more CPU's will be purchased by me until these vulns are fixed.
Uncut?
Geez guys - are these CPUs or porn descriptions?! I thought we were trying to get away from sexism in the tech industry!
Not sure how that make sense. When I think of depth in a CPU, I think of the pipeline stages.
as I rolled off her.
like if USER=NSA then OPEN_ALL_DOORS && NULLIFY_ANY_ENCRYPTION
what about more pci-e lanes?
Than have seen a 10nm Intel microprocessor.
Intel owes us money for the decades of lies and selling out our security to the NSA.
Fuck Intel.
Intel Reveals 10nm Sunny Cove CPU Cores That Go Deeper, Wider, and Faster
And with every bug mitigation it keeps getting slower, while remaining vulnerable (as the hardware is broken).
Intel does the benchmarks without mitigations. How charming.
Now you know what the bunny commercial really meant: They're fucking you over and over and over and over...
Enjoy being a cocksucker! /we know you will
What's next? Cloudy, Rainy and Foggy Cove?
We all know how all Intel CPUs are broken, but the why is very important.
AMD invented 64-bit for x86 chips AND invented the first true dual core x64 part. At that time AMD had a massive lead over Intel, and it's god-awful, hyper long pipeline Netburts. Tho outlets like Slashdot and Anandtech informed you, at the time, that Netburst- with its race to 10GHz- was the WINNING architecture.
Then Netburst went bust, and Intel went back to the Pentium 3, updated it with AMD's best ideas (legal due to cross patent agreement) and produced the Core 2 architecture.
But, here's the thing. Intel made the NSA and performance friendly decision to BREAK multi-threading on the CPU.
Proper on-chip multi-threading MUST be 'lock and key'. This means each thread has a unique ID, and that ID acts as a 'key' to open the 'lock' of memory resources that thread has the right to access. Intel NEVER implemented 'lock and key' but AMD always did.
So what did Intel's CHEAT achieve apart from ensuring the NSA always has low level access to your Intel CPU?
1) massively improved memory latency, for the hardware mechanism that implements the 'lock' has a real impact on access speeds.
2) massive improvements on power efficiency (the lock and key takes power for each memory access)
3) much higher clock speeds due to 1 and 2
In other words, ALL the advantages Intel seemed to have over AMD from the core 2 onwards were down to Intel using an illegal (in CS terms) broken by design CPU architecture.
Today the ONLY way to fix the Intel issue is to run ONE thread at a time on the CPU, and do a complete state flush between multi-tasking thread exchanges. The performance hit would approach 80-95%, which is why no solution uses this extreme but correct adjustment.
Next year, AMD's Zen 2 (ryzen 3) utterly wipes out Intel- and Intel will never recover. But Intel sits on a literal mountain of cash, so expect no end of PAID Intel promotion on sites like Slashdot in the continuing future.
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Few here know this, but Intel has been making 10nm x86 processors for some time now. Each is VERY low end, and missing most new features of the last few generations. But even with this very low ambition, Intel's 10nm parts have been broken garbage.
Intel's "one shot, two kills" 10nm process reflects the intellect and morality of the place and people it comes from.
Isn't their purpose to reduce speed?
Does it still have IME which can't be turned off? (Yes, AMD has PSP.)
Is it still subject to a wide class of speculative execution vulnerabilities?
It's the way that you say it, that makes them reject it. So with that, you're actually harming your cause.
It's like with other religious people: Be nice to them. They can't help it. They just want to keep their self-respect. So leave them a way out. (!!) So they are not idiots that could become normal. They are people who can become even better, and future awesome people.
And you'd be the one saving them, and improving their lives. Which would give us allies, and improve all our lives too.
I'd like to draw everyone's attention to this tidbit from the Q&A session:
It's really strange it has taken them so long to come to this conclusion. As a result of their 10nm fiasco (they still avoid talking about this node openly) we're stuck with the Skylake uArch which was released in 2015. Hopefully this blunder is a thing of the past.
But will they build them?
When asked for a reaction the HR person just screamed "More" followed by "oh God more" and finished with a long exhale.
Sunny goes Deeper, Wider, and Faster
Okay, I am confused. I thought that Intel was abandoning the 10nm process because of difficulty and cost issues. I was under the impression that they're going right to 7nm fabrication.
Have you thought of that? At some point cpus just won't get any faster from a design perspective. Maybe all the patterns and ideas on how to speed up CISC cpus have been tried and this is the best that will ever be. Maybe now, speed increases can only be had by frequency increases and cores. Single core ipc may have reached peak.
I used to be excited about new CPUs coming out until Windows 10. New CPU running Windows 10, bleh. No longer care.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.10...
Shai Schticks:"You don't make peace with friends, you make peace with enemies"
Normally she isn't very interested in technology but she can't stop telling her girlfriends about this.
But we all know its not sunny. Intel 10nm will never see the light of day.
I have it on good authority Intel wont mass produce on 10, they are going to 7 and they will probably dominate TSMC with that node.
Yes, we all know, rampaging extroverted schizophrenia (="Abrahamic religion") is rampaging in mentally underdeveloped countries like Saudi Arabia, Israel and the USA.
It's certainly not the norm in the sane world anymore though, since we left the dark ages.
Go a few levels back up, from what /. dragged you down to. Like if you just had come back to a conversation between Stephen Fry, Richard Feynman and John Cleese, from an excursion to the world of drunk ego chest thumping at the cracker barrel.
You thinking in pubescent terms like "offensive"ness, makes clear what level you expected to read, and I certainly don't blame you for that. ^^
It was quite meta, and regarding the, as I literally said in the first sentence, way he said what he said. He tried to make an argument, but was so RAGING that he just came off as (Not saying he was. Just that he came off as) an idiot, and a fanboy preaching his religion. Which tainted said argument and made one want to disagree, just to not agree with such an "idiot", even when one otherwise agreed with what he intended to say.
That that is bad for his side, is undoubtedly quite obvious to you too.
If you still think this is "asinine", you need to look up the Dunning-Kruger effect and take a long hard look in the mirror.
I may have to finally consider a new PC. I'll have to see the actual benchmark results, I'm still running an older i7 because it wasn't really gaining me anything to upgrade. If single thread performance really jumps, I may consider it, or the generation after. Would be nice to have hardware mitigation to some of the CPU issues as well.
Until the marketing dollars dry up and even the non-paid shills tire of hyping Intel.
"that will bring faster single-threaded and multi-threaded performance along with [[[[[[[major speed bumps]]]]]]] from new instructions. "
Huh?
things that are wider are usually not faster. Look at a NFL lineman vs. a NFL receiver.... things that go deeper are usually not smarter. Look at whore for example... you could probably go as deep as you want in her, but I have never heard anyone say "she is such a smart whore"