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Tesla Model 3 Modded To Run Ubuntu (cleantechnica.com)
140Mandak262Jamuna writes: CleanTechnica is reporting that someone hacked the infotainment system of a Tesla Model 3 and got root access and installed Linux distribution Ubuntu. Redditor trsohmers is able to show an Ubuntu command shell running alongside the Tesla OS. Since Tesla supports a browser that allows you to visit any site, could this be leveraged into remote hacks? It could also mean that if Tesla sells a long-range version of the Model 3, but limits it via software, people might try to remove the block. One could potentially get a 15-day trial of full self-driving for free and extend that 15-day window forever. At least he had some guts messing with $50,000 hardware that phones home all the time. Will Tesla brick his car to attempt to disprove the security issue?
turns itself off if it runs out of liesense?
So what. It's a computer. It can run linux.
They managed to run bash, not "an Ubuntu command shell." There is no such thing anymore than there is "Ford gasoline."
Get some damn editors that don't sound like that apple "What's a computer?" advertisement.
Tesla's run Ubuntu in their cars. It is put in there in the factory. If you peel away the UI on the screen you are supposed to find Ubuntu.
This would be news if this guy found Windows 10 in there.
Next headline:
Bottle of Heineken contains beer, a guy says after opening it...
> Will Tesla brick his car to attempt to disprove the security issue?
Tesla runs a bug bounty program. Recently there was an article where a guy accidentally social engineered his way to getting admin rights on the tesla forums, and instead of overreacting, they asked him to post on the bug bounty program to get it fixed.
On top of the web presence shit, their hardware hacking scopes are pretty neat as well. They accept submissions on car/infotainment/hardware flaws, and if you are a bona fide security researcher and ask nicely, they might even take steps to help you unbrick your hardware if you get stuck.
In my book, that's a decent way to run a bug bounty program.
Does it run Doom ?
Pay us 5 bitcoin or we will drive your car into oncoming traffic at 100mph.
just get in & fly.. pure/energy
I think its been proven enough times that and software can be hacked. Even encrypted which I don't know if it is enabled in Tesla's software but it should be. If your going to trust a car to drive you around, your going to have to do better about securing that software.
The reason for limiting the range has been pointed out previously, it causes more damage to the battery per charge cycle which makes the the warranty more likely to be invoked due to battery death. If you are voiding your warranty then hey, do whatever you like to your car, just don't expect them to honor the warranty.
I certainly hope they engineered the car to isolate it's entertainment console from the controls (and computer control systems) because if they didn't then there is a big security issue with that alone.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
It could also mean that if Tesla sells a long-range version of the Model 3, but limits it via software, people might try to remove the block. One could potentially get a 15-day trial of full self-driving for free and extend that 15-day window forever
I'm pretty sure that all cars are using separate computers for infotainment and motor control - one some consumer-based OS, and another a locked-down real-time OS. It would seem foolhardy to place much more than infotainment in the infotainment system.
Stop being a tabloid /.
The infotainment system is not the car.
I went TFA (I know, I know).
So he gained root in his infotainment system and changed some things in user space. It's not even clear from TFA whether "running multiple operating systems on his car" means he deployed a VM, a container or what.
BTW: "multiple operating systems on the car": do any of that guy, TFA's editor or (gasp!) /. editors know *how many* processors are in that car? Just as a rough estimate? 10? 30? 100?
This is what we get when someone who has barely a clue copy-pastes from someone who has barely a clue.
Slashdot, you could do better.
Sweet gaming rig... autopilot those tough racing games. :)
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Take war driving to a whole knew level. :)
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shut up apk
That oughta be a blast.
"because we can"?
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And bring him to me!
His car. He can fuckin do whatever fuckin shit he wants to do with his fuckin car. Except fuck it. He can't do that. Maybe. Enough Musk doobies and booze he might think he could. But don't! Don't FUCK you car. Whatsamatter with these penquinistas that makes them want to FUCK cars? Weirdos!
The year of the Dashboard! /s
This has always been bugging me. The Information and Entertainment computer for your car shouldn't be part of the same computer that deals with functions of the car primary purpose, to drive, steer, accelerate, break in the most efficient way possible. Most of the features on your entertainment screen in your car you could do with a $20 Raspberry Pi as a separate computer and you can have hard wired read only drive information sent over to it. That way you can have all the internet access and hacking you want without it affecting your actual car.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
/. is news for nerds! Hacking stuff that isn't designed to be hacked IS what nerds do.
You must be new here.
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They managed to run bash, not "an Ubuntu command shell." There is no such thing anymore than there is "Ford gasoline."
In context, "an Ubuntu command shell" probably means "Bash as distributed by Ubuntu". It'd be a bit more of a stretch to expand "Ford gasoline" to "the gasoline that the Ford dealer's service department uses, which probably comes from the gas station on the lot next door to the dealer".
This would be news if this guy found Windows 10 in there.
How would it be any more news than, say, older versions of Ford Sync based on Windows Embedded Automotive?
full self-driving can't have any time out build in. Just think of it timing out and then just drop down to cruise control with no one manning the steering.
nt
One could potentially get a 15-day trial of full self-driving for free
One could potentially enable the car's rocket boosters and fly, or maybe print money out of the dashboard!
But for now, let's limit ourselves to things that actually exist.
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For some reason I keep reading this headline as "Tesla 3 NEEDED to run Ubuntu". I'm like "That's not fully open source!".
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What a stupid thing to do to an expensive car. Once Tesla detects this (and they will) they will lose all access to updates and support destroying any resale value and very likely causing the car to brick itself due to "safety concerns".
Does it run need for speed?