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Apple Lied About iPhone X Screen Size and Pixel Count, Lawsuit Alleges (cnet.com)
A lawsuit filed Friday is accusing Apple of falsely advertised the screen sizes and pixel counts of the displays in its iPhone X, iPhone XS, and iPhone XS Max devices. The two plaintiffs, who filed the suit in the U.S. District Court of Northern California, are seeking class action status. CNET reports: The suit alleges that Apple lied about the screen sizes by counting non-screen areas like the notch and corners. So the new line of iPhones aren't "all screen" as marketed, according to the 55-page complaint. For example, iPhone X's screen size is supposed to be 5.8 inches, but the plaintiffs measured that it's "only about 5.6875 inches." The plaintiffs also allege that the iPhone X series phones have lower screen resolution than advertised. iPhone X is supposed to have a resolution of 2436x1125 pixels, but the product doesn't contain true pixels with red, green and blue subpixels in each pixel, according to the complaint. iPhone X allegedly only has two subpixels per pixel, which is less than advertised, the complaint said. The lawsuit also alleges iPhone 8 Plus has a higher-quality screen than iPhone X.
Yeah that is exactly what the average person wants. The size of a display down to some ludicrous number of digits. Spare me
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Cue the Apple apologists...
The iPhone X screen is a bad joke, that unfortunately has led to all these copy-cats. Something cannot be full screen if parts of the screen are unusable. Sure you can put something besides the notches and and it is rounded corners, but it is not part of the screen, as you cannot use it for anything. Same for the bottom - apps are not supposed to use the lower part of the screen because there is a slider thing. Try the simplest thing, try a full screen video, does it actually use your "full screen"? Quite far from it. And now they are rounding the corners of iPads too! Why???
I would say this lawsuit is silly, I mean you know about the notch when buying the devices, however I hadn't thought about the diagonal aspect. If they advertise a 5.8" diagonal, but that would only be the case if there were no rounded corners, it would be some sort of false advertising.
The figures are not there for the consumer. They are there to provide measurable evidence that Apple lied to their customers about the screen improvements to court.
I wasn't aware that for a pixel to be "true", it had to have a red,green,and blue subpixel. There are plenty of cell phones with LCD subpixel shapes that aren't "RGB" subpixels either. These can be for a myriad of design trade-offs, but at the high resolutions of those small displays, it's not really that noticeable. Older CRT televisions weren't "true" in their rbg pixel resolutions either.
Apple itself is a bad joke anymore. People are so brain washed with Apple's marketing they will more for less and Apple knows this. They didn't get rich giving people more for less I can tell you that much.
Clearly having an openly homosexual CEO has not made Apple Users any less hate filled.
Seriously this is 2018
55 pages for something that can be summarized in one sentence. "We want money."
said this reminded her of CRT TVs (and my) exaggerated measurements that employed the bezel.
So all of the other phone makers with notches are guilty of the same crime? What about anyone that has any kind of bezel, no matter how small?
iPhone X allegedly only has two subpixels per pixel,
So all of the. other phone makers doing this same thing with screens are "guilty" as well?
If Apple is guilty of this, all other smartphone makers are just as, or more guilty than Apple. Will you call them out also?
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We all know apple lies all the time. It's pretty much expected now.
Sure you can put something besides the notches and and it is rounded corners, but it is not part of the screen, as you cannot use it for anything. Same for the bottom - apps are not supposed to use the lower part of the screen because there is a slider thing.
Apps can display content in those system areas if they really want to.
Try the simplest thing, try a full screen video, does it actually use your "full screen"?
Yes, just zoom in... oh you didn't know that?? Most people like seeing the full content so it has side letterboxing, but you can always choose to have it fill the display.
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Gaaaaahhhhhhh! I was going to say something here but the black hole of stupidity sucked my brain in. Is this a contest for the stupidest lawsuit ever?
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
You start by cherry picking a figure, then move to victim blaming...and finally point out other companies also lie(that makes it alright)
Apple customers are being lied to..
By Apple. I buy from more consumer focused manufacturers, not those that pretend to be ethical.
If you didnt like the screen then return the phone next time. What a waste of time and resources this is, its a pure cash grab by some attorneys.
I think it is "Apple don't be lying scumbags"
I am pleased that you also think Apple is corrupt, but yes happy to move from my current manufacturer in a heartbeat, say it is wrong. No Problem...there are lots a phone manufacturers.
Sounds like a consumer standing up to scumbag Apple. Thank goodness there are decent people out there that defend consumer rights. What an excellent use of time.
Do these people have nothing better to do than launch lawsuits over trivial matters? DON'T PURCHASE THE PRODUCT IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT!!!
Oh, and my fav:
>> For example, iPhone X's screen size is supposed to be 5.8 inches, but the plaintiffs measured that it's "only about 5.6875 inches."
Yeah, yeah. You think you can get away with using "about" (in this case meaning "approximately") and then state a measurement down to a ten-thousandth of an inch?
Except it is not...clearly you did not read the article or even the summary. This is about lying Apple with proof.
http://www.displaymate.com/iPhoneXS_ShootOut_1s.htm
Thatâ(TM)s a long, highly-technical rundown of why itâ(TM)s far better than the 8 display, or any other phone display.
I'd like to know how they measured it to the 4th decimal place.
...about being gay. Gay humans do not exist.
I bought one and then found out the image is sent to the device as half HD and then upscaled to full HD...Have not bothered to check their 4K model.
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1) CRT TVs (full size, not the late wrist watch toys and the like) certainly did have the pixel rez stated- although that rez, to the public, was only defined as the number of horizontal lines. TV's were never sold on their technical number of horizontal 'pixels'- a function of the analogue signal rather than printed dots on the screen.
2) A TRUE RGB pixel is an entity with its own spacial identity AND ability for full colour control. If colour rez is LOWER than spatial pixel rez on an iPhone, the customer has most certainly been conned.
Apple LIES- full stop. But let's take an example with another tech giant, Nvidia.
Nvidia sells cut-down GPU chips, like the 970 and 1070, but Nvidia LIES and sez specs like ROPS and active VRAM are the same as the non-cut-down variants (980 and 1080). But Nvidia's architecture (unlikie AMD's GPU architecture) hardwires all the various blocks of the chip, so cutting down on one block proportionally cuts down on all the others. Yet Nvida sends tech docs to promotional outlets claiming otherwise. Why? Cos ROP counts and VRAM amounts help sell product.
Apple lies about things like true pixel counts for the same reason. Informed nerds MAY know the truth (very few nerds know the true specs of Nvidia's cut down GPUs). But most nerds, and all ordinary peeps will trust the marketing propaganda lies from Apple.
Ask THIS question. Why does Apple lie about real pixel count, and Nvidia lie about usable VRAM if according to the apologists, it doesn't matter anyway? CLEARLY both Apple and Nvidia think there is something to be gained by purposely misleading the consumer.
this lawyer dude should go find a few clients who have purchased an lcd television in the last 5-10 years.
I have no idea for the actual merit in *this* case but there is a world of difference between "did not like it" and "false advertising". The first indeed merit a scorn, the second is usually very much frowned upon by consumer and by the court (frowned upon : as in usually lead to penalty). Personally I don't care anymore if this is an attorney cash grab, what I do care is that what is advertised is what is sold, within the law. if attorney can punish a lying firm , where I cannot, then much BETTER than doing nothing.
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Does any sensible person actually care whether it is 2436x1125 or 2438x1120?
(apart from some nerd in his mom's basement counting pixels (1,2,3,4,5,6, etc.)
Jeez, the are more important things in this world than a few pixels more or less.
I mean, it's not like you're gonna notice... Really, some folks ought to get out more.
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They claim 4K while is is only 3840 pixels! 160 pixels difference! They lied !
Even if they turn out to be devoted Wiccans, I don't see how it excuses false advertising. Burn them!
This paves the way for my lawsuit against Ford, who for decades has advertised "5.0" liter engines that are 4,942cc, or "4.9" liters, if you're going for one-decimal accuracy. I'll be rich!
First of all, dickheads, you don't need to say "about" when describing a dimension to the ten-thousandth of an inch. Secondly, anyone who can spot the difference, unaided, between a 5.8-inch screen and a 5.6875-inch screen at arm's length wins a free trip to Uranus.
Thirdly, Apple has this note right on their page, directly below the dimensions:
The iPhone XS display has rounded corners that follow a beautiful curved design, and these corners are within a standard rectangle. When measured as a standard rectangular shape, the screen is 5.85 inches diagonally (actual viewable area is less).
And their lawyers are better than yours, so I'm sure that's enough to get this suit tossed out on its metaphorical ass.
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Totally. And the SDD size is a bigger lie (e.g. 32 GB advertised, 10 system, 22 usable).
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If they went after the storage manufacturers that decided that 1 GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes, I would fully support them, and they would actually make a service to us all.
What a scummy individual, you think they really want a functional notch highlighted in marketing material...up to consumer to actually do their homework and see a device and learn about it, living under a rock if you donâ(TM)t know what the notch is. And comparing DPI and display quality is a metric not number of pixels...FOOL!