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India To Intercept, Monitor, and Decrypt Citizens' Computers (venturebeat.com)

Several readers have shared a report: The Indian government has authorized 10 central agencies to intercept, monitor, and decrypt data on any computer, sending a shock wave through citizens and privacy watchdogs. Narendra Modi's government late Thursday broadened the scope of Section 69 of the nation's IT Act, 2000 to require a subscriber, service provider, or any person in charge of a computer to "extend all facilities and technical assistance to the agencies." Failure to comply with the agencies could result in seven years of imprisonment and an unspecified fine. In a clarification posted today, the Ministry of Home Affairs said each case of interception, monitoring, and decryption is to be approved by the competent authority, which is the Union Home Secretary.

Explaining the rationale behind the order, India's IT minister, Ravi Shankar Prasad, said that the measure was undertaken in the interests of national security. He added that some form of "tapping" has already been going on in the country for a number of years and that the new order would help bring structure to that process. "Always remember one thing," he said in a televised interview. "Even in the case of a particular individual, the interception order shall not be effective unless affirmed by the Home Secretary."

The Internet Freedom Foundation, a nonprofit organization that protects the online rights of citizens in India, cautioned that the order goes beyond telephone tapping. It includes looking at content streams and might even involve breaking encryption in some cases. "Imagine your search queries on Google over [a number of] years being demanded -- mixed with your WhatsApp metadata, who you talk to, when, and how much [and add] layers of data streams from emails + Facebook," it said. "To us this order is unconstitutional and in breach of the telephone tapping guidelines, the Privacy Judgement and the Aadhaar Judgement," it asserted.

108 comments

  1. Wouldn't happen in the US by 110010001000 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    This wouldn't happen in the US because we have guns! Right? Oh wait, the government and courts regularly use data on/transmitted from citizens computers in court cases. Carry on.

    1. Re:Wouldn't happen in the US by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

      No, they just make you give them the password, or the corporations will hand it over. Guns won't change that.

    2. Re:Wouldn't happen in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think people here misunderstood you, purposefully or out of different values than those of people living in countries with working governments have.

    3. Re:Wouldn't happen in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      another idiot, thanks... when in old Easter block we had 2x4s, 1100 people died in 89

    4. Re:Wouldn't happen in the US by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 1

      This wouldn't happen in the US because we have guns! Right? Oh wait, the government and courts regularly use data on/transmitted from citizens computers in court cases. Carry on.

      That's because they're not using their guns right. Point it at the computer when the cops show up and shout, "I'll do it! I'll fucking do it!" That'd work, right? Hehhehe

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  2. imaginary secrets society membership inf. hacked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    disbelief is an understatement considering the group disbanded in last year?

  3. Intercept a computer??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oooo-kay.

    1. Re:Intercept a computer??? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The network is so bad, it is easier to transfer a file by mailing the computer.

    2. Re:Intercept a computer??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The network is so bad, it is easier to transfer a file by mailing the computer.

      Someone actually did this in South Africa a few years ago:

      * https://phys.org/news/2009-09-carrier-pigeon-faster-broadband-internet.html

    3. Re:Intercept a computer??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The network is so bad, it is easier to transfer a file by mailing the computer.

      Mail it? Pffft, I usually launch 'em with a catapult.

  4. That shouldn't be a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Considering how many Microsoft tech support centers they have in India.

  5. If the average Indian IT worker is..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Troll

    ....anything to go by then no-one need worry.

    Those guys couldn't find their own butts using both hands, let alone be capable of what's in the article.

    It'll just be thousands on Indians all trying to cheat from each other to learn how to do it.

    Nothing to see here.

    1. Re: If the average Indian IT worker is..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Truth. Whoever modded as a troll must love the stinkdus

    2. Re:If the average Indian IT worker is..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just imagine the kind of elite network folks a govt job would snare over the public sector...

  6. Stego time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    sounds like we need a renaissance in stegography. Nope not encrypted, nope no data there,

    1. Re:Stego time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      steganography

  7. DAFUQ!?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just what the hell do you think provides the ultimate and final protection for your freedom?

    The very government and courts you just said violate those rights?

    Just because allowing a population to be armed to protect itself doesn't mean governments won't abuse rights.

    Your knee-jerk GUNZ IZZ SKEERY!!!! straw man is pathetic and intellectually about as deep as an August parking lot puddle in a shitty Florida strip mall parking lot.

    1. Re:DAFUQ!?!?! by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

      "Just what the hell do you think provides the ultimate and final protection for your freedom?"

      Not your AR15 from Walmart. I never said guns are scary either.

    2. Re:DAFUQ!?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Just what the hell do you think provides the ultimate and final protection for your freedom?"

      Not your AR15 from Walmart. I never said guns are scary either.

      So what does guarantee your rights, then?

      Not that government with its courts that you've already said usurps them?

      You're incoherent and haven't really thought this through, have you? It's all about the FEELZ and the trolling.

      Has mommy sent your breakfast down yet?

    3. Re:DAFUQ!?!?! by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Your knee-jerk GUNZ IZZ SKEERY!!!! straw man is pathetic and intellectually about as deep as an August parking lot puddle in a shitty Florida strip mall parking lot.

      So you make a strawman by claiming OP made a strawman? Bravo!

      Your ideas are intriguing, citizen. Pray tell you have a newsletter a fellow citizen might subscribe to perchance?

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    4. Re:DAFUQ!?!?! by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 1

      So what does guarantee your rights, then?

      Nothing.

      People either care about them, or they don't. If they care about them, then there is MORE of a likelihood that they will be protected, but no guarantee. I know we're a nation of individuals, but it's the collective that decides the rights. Otherwise, they get eroded, slowly, bit by bit, and you don't get very many complaints.

    5. Re:DAFUQ!?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What guarantees our rights is the large number of citizens that outnumber the government.The government literally cannot exist without the consent of the people and as bad as things have gotten,they haven't gotten so bad that the people aren't willing to go along with the laws and whatever the courts rule.

      That being said, now that we have a rapist on the Supreme Court and the right wing has stolen one of the positions, I'm not sure how much longer people are going to look at the Supreme Court with any degree of respect or consent. The Supreme Court's only enforcement mechanism is that other people take it's judgements seriously.

  8. So, same as everywhere else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is standard practice now. Its amazing that people once thought it was wrong that Stasi collected information about the citizens social interactions.

    1. Re:So, same as everywhere else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reasoning is no longer "Stasi was bad", but "Stasi was doing it for a bad government". The difference is that the spying today is for a good government.

    2. Re:So, same as everywhere else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So says the government.

      The head of the stasi infamously declared he did it out of love for everyone. Go look it up, it was on television.

      Me, I think that while the customarily "bad" governments (ie the USSR, a bunch of dictatorships in Africa, but also the US-backed right-wing dictatorships in Latin America) have ended or ceased to be relevant, the "good" governments are about to go bad because they're past their expiry dates. And they know it, whether they care to admit it or not. So they prepare by and for fucking over their own citizens with gay digitally transformed abandon.

    3. Re: So, same as everywhere else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone mod this up. I lived before the wall fell and remember the outrage US and other Western powers displayed at this kind of behavior, and don't tell me the world is a more dangerous place, the stats will disprove your lies

    4. Re:So, same as everywhere else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're being sarcastic, I hope.

    5. Re: So, same as everywhere else? by denis.goddard · · Score: 1

      ... which is why thousands of us have moved to New Hampshire

    6. Re: So, same as everywhere else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Putting all the fuckwads in one place is good, takes the useless turds out of civillised society, they should build a wall around and keep you there.

  9. Don't know how the law works in India by bobstreo · · Score: 2

    IANAL, but is the burden of proof on the government to prove the existence of a:

    "competent authority" /s

    On the other hand, a "secure", cloud based backup/restore service that leaves no trace on a "rental" laptop except the latest blank OS, would seem to be a great investment opportunity.

    1. Re:Don't know how the law works in India by jenningsthecat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      On the other hand, a "secure", cloud based backup/restore service that leaves no trace on a "rental" laptop except the latest blank OS, would seem to be a great investment opportunity.

      "Citizen, you are under arrest for the crime of encryption. Your ISP detected the transfer of encrypted files passing through your Internet connection on three separate occasions last month. Kneel and put your hands behind your back, please."

      If you think this won't happen - well, I think you're naive, but I sincerely hope you're right. Personally, I think we'll see it sooner rather than later, even in what we (sometimes ironically) call the free world.

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    2. Re:Don't know how the law works in India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Citizen, you are under arrest for the crime of encryption. Your ISP detected the transfer of encrypted files passing through your Internet connection on three separate occasions last month. Kneel and put your hands behind your back, please."

      If you think this won't happen - well, I think you're naive, but I sincerely hope you're right. Personally, I think we'll see it sooner rather than later, even in what we (sometimes ironically) call the free world.

      We need an amendment which establishes rights to curtail some of this. (Obviously if your not in the US you need the equivalent.)

      1.) Our data, is our data. No company may collect data on us without our explicit opt in that can be retracted at any time. If you retract permission the company can stop dealing with you, but that's it.

      2.) Data collected, even if permission is given can't be sold unless it is changed to not be traceable back. If things get easier to trace, then the requirements automatically increase.

      3.) Encryption is a right. It was once listed as a munition, and I find it far more important than gun rights. If a judge issues a lawful court order a company must of course comply (They must also be compensated for their time). Under no circumstances must a company limit their technology or products to be decryptable, save as pertains to export laws. Under no circumstances is the presence of encrypted data a presumption of guilt.

    3. Re:Don't know how the law works in India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      clearly you are unfamiliar with india,

      ISP has detected X using encryption
      is X part of the right religious, social or economic cast?
      if yes then ignore
      if no then randomly beat the shit out of them, rape them, or extort them

    4. Re:Don't know how the law works in India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think this won't happen - well, I think you're naive, but I sincerely hope you're right. Personally, I think we'll see it sooner rather than later, even in what we (sometimes ironically) call the free world.

      It's the enslaved world. We just refuse to acknowledge it, even as the mounting evidence could have a statue of itself made and placed in the town square.

      The only thing that will eventually happen is the smart people will start avoiding any form of digital anything for sensitive communication and records storage, while the rest of the public continues shacking themselves and their children for generations to come.

      Face it, the dark ages are returning people, and this time it will be much harder to get out of than the last one.

  10. I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... don't mind our overlords showing their true colours.

    Go on, show the world you utterly hate and fear your own citizenry and will stoop to any depth at all to fuck over your own citizens. A biometric card to track everyone and snoop in everyone's data for no reason? Why yes, mister wallet inspector, do show us what you're made of.

    1. Re: I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They don't fear the population. If push comes to shove, the government can easily destroy the population. They don't hate it either, they just want to keep it in check for at least one more decade while its existence is still needed.

  11. time to revert back to the pre-industrail era by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    what the what now?
    basically, this is a case of "do you own a 'computer'?, if so then we open up and read anything in what we deem to be a 'computer' any time we like"

    I'm going back to floppy disks. or I would. except anything unreadable or not formatted to 1.44meg could be construed as "encrypted", and therefore if I don't hand over the "decryption keys" to a corrupt floppy disk, it's tantamount to 7 years jail time.

    good job guys. shall we all start carrying round a little tube of anal lube as part of being a trusted citizen?

    maybe do something useful with it like finding those scam call centres?

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  13. Just another brick in the wall by bill.pev · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yesterday, we learned that China will be publicly shaming j-walkers using facial recognition. NPR asked if this was the beginning of an era where no transgression against the law would go unnoticed and unpunished. Now we see a country with a huge citizenry demanding access to (effectively) all personal information without protection of privacy. This is one of today's announcements in an unending chain of events ratcheting up tyranny around the globe.

    What made, and to the extent we still have it, Makes America Great, is and always has been a promise of true liberty and freedom, however well fulfilled, to be your own person, to think your own private thoughts, to fulfill your own dreams, to seek happiness. This dream brings people to our nation who are beaten on suspicion of thinking thoughts deemed improper. When America champions this idea around the world, it gives ALL people (who can hear it) hope that one day they will live in a place that allows them to express themselves personally as they really are.

    Every time I read about technology enabling oppression, suppression, tyranny, and conformity .. a forced way to think, with tools to root out all transgressions to the prescribed ways, as this policy in India does - I am fearful for the future of liberty, and even just democracy.

    We should be looking at these actions as examples of what NOT to do.. and yet they are increasingly harbingers of what our leadership WILL do here in America. We watch what happens abroad with horror, and then watch while people embrace and defend these horrors at home. I am baffled.

    Troll On! my people.

    1. Re:Just another brick in the wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      America was never great! Orange man bad!

    2. Re:Just another brick in the wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know, didn't we start with red light and speeding cameras? Now we have cameras mounted on buses for people who don't stop. Some pop star used facial recognition at concert to look for stalkers. Do you really think the US will not use facial recog to find bad guys, or maybe bad guys?

    3. Re:Just another brick in the wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever lived outside North America?

    4. Re:Just another brick in the wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fear is a powerful motivator and people are quite afraid of a lot of stuff these days and the powers love it.

    5. Re:Just another brick in the wall by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I'm an American who has lived in Europe and Asia for several years and speaks four languages. I agree with him 100%.

    6. Re: Just another brick in the wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And at the last DEFCON Caesarâ(TM)s Palace used facial recognition to track people and also know when they werenâ(TM)t in their rooms to do âoesneak and peeks.â

    7. Re:Just another brick in the wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      America was never great!

      Not so. America was both great AND terrible. The problem with MAGA isn't that those things were never there. It's that it totally ignores that restoring many past greatnesses depends on reinstating many past sins.

    8. Re:Just another brick in the wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This always happens in human history and the end is mostly; revolt, destruction and reboot, just now it's little different and if comes to that then ICBMs would probably start flying and that would be the end of our cycle.

      but then "There is no spoon"

    9. Re:Just another brick in the wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We should pick Putin or China's Xi'dada as our new beacon of freedom. Then that would be too new to baffle us anymore.

    10. Re:Just another brick in the wall by KlomDark · · Score: 1

      > The country that used nuclear weapons against POC is suddenly the good guys?

      The country that sneak-bombed our troops that we are still digging out 70+ years later? Fuck you asshole. That was not racism, that was retaliation.

      Go fuck your POC-marked face.

    11. Re:Just another brick in the wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a Canadian that was born in Eastern Europe, speaks two languages, and visited Western Europe, Asia and USA. If I could choose a country to be born in, it would be USA hands down.

    12. Re:Just another brick in the wall by TimMD909 · · Score: 2

      The country that invented Jim Crow is suddenly some beacon of freedom? The country that used nuclear weapons against POC is suddenly the good guys? The country that invaded Iraq and used its NSA to spy on its own citizens is now going to lecture others on moral behavior? What, exactly baffles you about the situation? None of this is new.

      So... those particular "POCs" were aligned with the Axis Powers i.e. the Nazis, ya know? So that's one bad part of your argument.

      Second of all, why would you say POC? I'm pretty sure the Japanese at the time would only view things as watashitachi versus gaijin. Trying to look at it through the lens of white skin vs any other color makes no sense, especially to the Empire of Japan's citizens.

      You trolling?

    13. Re:Just another brick in the wall by imperious_rex · · Score: 1

      Pure fearmongering. I think we can both agree that "greatness" is a nebulous term. But to claim that to return to "greatness" America must revisit its dark side is just fearmongering vagueness. Can you be more specific about what sins would be reinstated as part of making America great again? Reviving Jim Crow laws isn't going to bring the middle-class back to its 1960s level of prosperity. Making same-sex marriage illegal again isn't going to get the US closer to energy independence. Bringing back slavery isn't going to fix our road and bridge infrastructure (On second thought, maybe it could. It would certainly keep labor costs way down, saving taxpayers a lot of money!). A return to semi-imperialism abroad isn't going to enable American footprints on Mars. Ooops! I think I just fed a troll.

    14. Re:Just another brick in the wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm an American born and raised in America.

      40 years ago, I would have agreed with you. Now? Not so sure any more. We've been going the wrong way for a long time now. We've abrogated our leadership and are slowly but surely sliding away from the places we once held aloft as reasons why our society strove for justice when other societies did not.

      We were never perfect. But we tried, and we struggled to learn from our mistakes. Any more? I don't know.

      Many of us still try. But many care about nothing except the next dank meme.

  14. Just happened in Australia.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, Australia already had this terrible idea and turned it into law. Why not do it everywhere and citizens privacy be damned, globally.

    1. Re: Just happened in Australia.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And in Denmark a municipality is actively looking to track Peoples electricity and heating to make sure that they actually live in their homes. Technology is turning Democracies all over into shitholes anf all people care about is their new shiny gadget in their hand and Swedes take ng the full step first are allowing themselves to be implanted in droves and banning cash, Hungary puts into law allowing 400 hours of unpaid overtime for up to 3 years. Totalitarian forces are rubbing their hands in joy and laughing giddily as the sheeple corall themselves more and more into total slavery

    2. Re:Just happened in Australia.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So did the British apparently a few years ago. Funny how this legislation travels around in the English speaking world.

  15. Google searches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine your search queries on Google over [a number of] years being demanded -

    And nobody was ever concerned about the rights violation here.

  16. Really, India? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about providing basic services (running water, electricity and sanitation) to the more than 600 million Indian citizens who lack them? Is it because they currently have no means to encrypt anything, and you people in the government want for them to remain that way?

  17. They have a lot of muslims there by Chrisq · · Score: 0

    They have a lot of muslims there and of course, like everywhere there are muslims, that means crime and terrorism. It might be necessary to do this to control them. Why they just don't send the bastards to Pakistan and let in the Christian, Sikh and Hindu Pakistanis I don't know.

    1. Re: They have a lot of muslims there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All Indians are bad and useless people. They're a plague on the planet.

    2. Re:They have a lot of muslims there by ZombieCatInABox · · Score: 2

      Blaming all the problems of the world on one segment of the population based on race, gender, sexual orientation, culture, etc, is a teltale sign of a simple and weak mind. Such minds simply cannot comprehend the complexity of the world we live in. They want the world to be simple enough to understand it, so they are hell-bent on making it simple.

      But it's not. OK ? It's not. The world is what it is, not what you want it to be.

      Would-be tyrants love simpletons though. Simpletons are easily scared by things that a simple mind can identify immediately: Race, religion, culture, etc.

      And scared people are easy to control, because they will believe anything that will aleviate their fears.

    3. Re:They have a lot of muslims there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Found the bigot.

    4. Re: They have a lot of muslims there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bigot only applies to issues against humans. Indians aren't human.

    5. Re: They have a lot of muslims there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People like you will be first on the list to be removed.

    6. Re:They have a lot of muslims there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Found the faggot

    7. Re:They have a lot of muslims there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, just another micro dick incel bigot, a useless puss filled pimple on the arse of society.

  18. Wow by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 1

    . "Even in the case of a particular individual, the interception order shall not be effective unless affirmed by the Home Secretary."

    That line could have been written by a 419 scammer. If it had the word "modality" in it I'd be 100% convinced.

  19. Encrypted contents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One can only imagine the contents of these messages. Lovely gems such as what street are we shitting on this week? Or maybe which teenage girl we are going to gang rape to death today? Or maybe how many million American cell phones we're going to call for tech support scams.

    1. Re:Encrypted contents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You forgot "Which job should we steal from the USA today?", "How long can we go without deodorant?", "Could our music be made somehow more horrible?" and finally "I'm a big fat colorist, where are the light-skinned girls?"

    2. Re:Encrypted contents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I call it fake all this themes, they are not written in Indian Engrish. "I am new to this, I have never raped a girl. How can I. do that? PLEASE PLEASE Help me learn how to do it."

  20. Offshoring data ends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Processing any sort of personally identifiable data in India will be avoided just for this reason.

    Call center over voice over IP included.

    1. Re:Offshoring data ends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Processing any sort of personally identifiable data in India will be avoided just for this reason.

      Call center over voice over IP included.

      What the hell are you talking about?

      Do you think any company, especially one that would outsource to India, gives a flying fuck about your data?

  21. Re:Which is the worst *BSD of all? by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 1

    You are full of dogshit, Mr Coward. I'm running NetBSD 8.0 right now posting this and loving it. Just because you are a systemd-lover looking to pan the superior competition because you can barely install Ubuntu doesn't mean you need to go hostile-retard on your betters. All of the BSD's are like brothers, fighting sometimes, but mostly cooperating in beautiful ways and producing excellent results. For example, the NetBSD rc-system is shared between it and FreeBSD and many wireless drivers that originate in OpenBSD find their way quickly to NetBSD and FreeBSD. In my extensive decades-long experience (something you don't have, obviously) BSD has been nothing short of kick ass and a joy to work with. That's why so many Unix variants started with BSD code. Their gift to the world can hardly be underestimated. The BSD socket interface is the iron-clad standard in huge swaths of IT because it rocks, was truly free, and it wasn't OSI-style committee bullshit. Haters like you have to post shit like this as AC's because you really know how fucked up and wrong you are in the first place.

  22. End of India's call centers?? by DigiShaman · · Score: 0

    So does that mean these call centers in India can't be trusted (as if they couldn't be before) to secure information for western companies?! GOOD!

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    1. Re:End of India's call centers?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It should yes. In reality the companies who have outsourced theirs will simply ignore it. It's pretty rare to find an IT company that hasn't been overrun with indian employees anyway. To them it won't matter and at the very least they will never riskt heir work permits on fighting it.

      Welcome to enslavement.

    2. Re:End of India's call centers?? by KlomDark · · Score: 1

      Absolutely the same thing I was thinking. Or worse, even the outsourced code development can be stolen. Just as bad as China, what they cannot invent, they will steal.

      America needs to start embracing long-term planning, rather that "current quarter" thinking. Can't maintain any strategy with that short-term thinking and it will soon be our undoing if we don't figure out how to combat it. China plans long-term, we are planning pretty much nothing. It's like playing chess against a high-level player using a random number generator to pick your next move, other than Shakespeare's monkeys, that's no way to survive.

    3. Re:End of India's call centers?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      America needs to start embracing long-term planning, rather that "current quarter" thinking.

      You are so behind the curve. Now we have Agile, "current quarter" can be replaced by "before the next scrum".

  23. Good riddance by reanjr · · Score: 1

    Good riddance to Tata and InfoSys.

  24. This will never be used to benefit Indian companie by sandbagger · · Score: 1

    I have no doubt that the defense industry, among others, will be given winks and nods and get tipped off when foreign competitors are bidding against them, or when interesting IP is scooped up.

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  25. Re:Which is the worst *BSD of all? by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

    Don't feed the trolls, asshat.

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  26. Re:Which is the worst *BSD of all? by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 0

    Fuck you, too. I'll say what I like.

  27. Don't get your undershorts in a knot by goombah99 · · Score: 2

    It's just saying if an agency has a warrant then they can search your computer or intercept it's communications and you will need to provide a means for them to search it, punishable by law. It's about the same as in the US give or take. The change he is making is it's now requiring a warrant and codifying the penanty for non compliance. Previously this was all being done ad hoc. Now it's regulated and law.

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    1. Re:Don't get your undershorts in a knot by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1, Informative

      Not even close. Try reading the The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

    2. Re:Don't get your undershorts in a knot by goombah99 · · Score: 2

      No unreasonable searches and seizures. Ergo warranted searches and seizures. Look up warranted in the dictionary.

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      Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
  28. Re:Which is the worst *BSD of all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The thing that killed NetBSD was its obsession with boat anchors pulled out of dumpsters. While the other BSDs were busy implementing their vision of a modern operating system, NetBSD was more like a hobby for guys playing with obsolete gear one step away from the landfill. That was precious time and resources wasted all for naught. Time and resources squandered on woolgathering and dumpster diving was time lost forever. And as the few developers drifted away to other projects, what was left resembled someone's garage museum of abandoned computers.

  29. Thus ends the world's largest democratic society by bigpat · · Score: 1

    With mandated e-currencies in the name of tax collection and total monitoring of electronic communications and transactions... that is pretty much the nuts and bolts of democracy all wrapped up in a totalitarian package. Hopefully there is enough democracy left in India to give the government a good swift kick to the curb, but it seems that totalitarians have gotten better at making the loss of Liberty sweet enough to swallow.

    Taxes should never be so high as to require a government to make the nation itself a prison in order to collect.

  30. Re:Thus ends the world's largest democratic societ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you notice that all this is happening in countries that have many not so educated people? Did we went thru this in Europe few centuries ago when only high level members of christians churches were allowed to learn shit?

  31. Competent Authority... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guess no one has to worry, nothing but incompetent computer blunderers over there...

  32. fuck all those smelly ignorant stinkdus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Qed

  33. "This is windows calling..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's all they'll find.

  34. slashdot censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I submitted USA's own mass surveillance program 'Hemisphere' and that story NEVER got published. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/...

  35. Idiots at the Top by seven+of+five · · Score: 1

    1. Government declares encryption void for the purposes of investigation and policing.
    2. Backdoors forced into encryption algorithms, with the keys entrusted to the government
    3. Keys leak into public domain
    4. Public trust of encryption collapses
    5. Ecommerce collapses
    6. Banking system collapses

  36. Understandable by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

    "Explaining the rationale behind the order, India's IT minister, Ravi Shankar.."

    There's the problem. He's more skilled with a sitar than with encryption.

  37. Great speechRe:Just another brick in the wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Meanwhile, in Canada, the advice to people planning to visit the US is say nothing about pot use (legal here) for fear of being banned from ever entering the US. Free thought and legal actions .. ah yes the land of the Free.

  38. Shithole Country. Nuke It. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only way to be sure the needful is done. Atleast 25% of them are child rapists anyways. Theres no cure fore that but ending them.

  39. Like most laws of this nature by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

    You can bet your ass the " important " people in India have exceptions in place for this law.

    Eg: Big Brother can spy on you, but are exempt from being spied upon.

  40. Re:Which is the worst *BSD of all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fact: NetBSD is D E A D. End of story.

    D E A D.

  41. Everybody else is doing it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So we should too!

  42. Bizarre Statements From Politicians by NewYork · · Score: 1

    Contempt for truth and knowledge https://www.huffingtonpost.in/...

  43. Dictators Lap This Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For authoritarian leaders and governments, an "unconstitutional order to tap citizen's communications" is pure gold.

    Bug baby, bug!

    In short order, high level oversight and approvals (in this case, by the Home Secretary) will be reduced. Eventually they will be eliminated in an "administrative move to reduce the burden of meaningless paperwork. It just makes sense!"

  44. Re:Which is the worst *BSD of all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SystemD is a cancer.

    The worst pice of trash software in Linux history and was forced down on our throats without even a discussion.
    Now that debian planning on finally removed the old sysVinit I'm glad I moving full speed to BSD only servers.
    Fuck systemd and pottering, this piece of shit would deserve to be shot.